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A67103 Truth will out, or, A discovery of some untruths smoothly, told by Dr. Ieremy Taylor in his Disswasive from popery with an answer to such arguments as deserve answer / by his friendly adversary E. Worsley. E. W. (Edward Worsley), 1605-1676. 1665 (1665) Wing W3618; ESTC R39189 128,350 226

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that_o they_o be_v unworthy_a to_o be_v reckon_v among_o the_o number_n of_o man_n that_o we_o may_v spit_v in_o their_o face_n so_o this_o holy_a face_a man_n speak_v rather_o than_o obey_v they_o do_v rome_n either_o instil_v such_o poison_n into_o his_o breast_n or_o lay_v that_o venom_n on_o his_o pernicious_a tongue_n no_o god_n know_v both_o rome_n and_o the_o rhemish_a doctor_n assert_v that_o christian_n be_v oblige_v in_o conscience_n to_o obey_v even_o heathen_a emperor_n and_o worthy_a doctor_n kellison_n doubt_v not_o to_o say_v that_o faith_n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o jurisdiction_n temporal_a neither_o be_v authority_n lose_v by_o the_o loss_n of_o faith_n see_v these_o authority_n quote_v in_o the_o protestant_n apology_n tract_n 3._o sect._n 5._o pag._n 668._o once_o more_o and_o i_o end_v when_o bloody_a beza_n preach_v at_o grenoble_n with_o his_o sword_n and_o pistol_n exhort_v the_o