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A65699 A discourse concerning the idolatry of the Church of Rome wherein that charge is justified, and the pretended refutation of Dr. Stillingfleet's discourse is answered / by Daniel Whitby ... Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726.; Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1674 (1674) Wing W1722; ESTC R34745 260,055 369

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ep_v 110._o p_o 840_o inferioris_fw-la notae_fw-la &_o de_fw-la plebe_fw-la dii_fw-la inferior_a vulgar_a go_n second_o they_o hold_v they_o to_o be_v 3._o be_v austin_n de_fw-fr c._n d._n l._n 9_o c._n 3._o d●i_fw-la facti_fw-la &_o a_o summo_fw-la deo_fw-la conditi_fw-la i.e._n such_o as_o receive_v their_o being_n from_o the_o supreme_a god_n who_o therefore_o by_o the_o latin_n be_v so_o often_o style_v divum_fw-la pater_fw-la and_o by_o the_o greek_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o like_a and_o three_o they_o say_v the_o heathen_n have_v their_o 115._o their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d julian_n apud_fw-la cyril_n alex._n l._n 4._o p._n 115._o commission_n from_o god_n and_o only_o be_v his_o undergovernour_n and_o by_o he_o place_v over_o town_n and_o country_n four_o they_o hold_v the_o worship_n due_a unto_o they_o to_o be_v a_o middle_n and_o inferior_a kind_n of_o worship_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v hierocles_n that_o be_v god_n must_v be_v worship_v 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that_o at_o the_o time_n of_o reform_v this_o church_n from_o that_o gross_a superstition_n of_o popery_n it_o be_v carefu_o provide_v that_o all_o mean_n shall_v be_v use_v to_o root_n out_o of_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o people_n both_o the_o inclination_n thereunto_o and_o memory_n thereof_o especial_o of_o the_o idolatry_n commit_v in_o the_o mass_n for_o which_o cause_n all_o popish_a altar_n be_v demolish_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n by_o pray_v unto_o saint_n depart_v 2._o §._o 2._o thus_o in_o the_o homily_n touch_v the_o peril_n of_o idolatry_n we_o have_v these_o word_n terrentius_n vorro_n show_v that_o there_o be_v 300_o jupiter_n in_o his_o time_n i_o think_v we_o have_v no_o few_o saint_n to_o who_o we_o give_v the_o honour_n due_a to_o god_n then_o follow_v this_o apostrophe_n oh_o heaven_n earth_n and_o sea_n what_o madness_n and_o
c._n 12._o run_v through_o all_o the_o word_n of_o holy_a prayer_n and_o you_o will_v be_v able_a to_o find_v nothing_o which_o be_v not_o include_v in_o the_o lord_n prayer_n in_o this_o both_o protestant_n and_o roman_a catholic_n agree_v hence_o therefore_o i_o assume_v if_o when_o we_o pray_v for_o any_o thing_n contain_v in_o this_o prayer_n we_o be_v enjoin_v to_o pray_v to_o god_n than_o all_o our_o acceptable_a prayer_n must_v be_v direct_v to_o he_o and_o whensoever_o we_o do_v pray_v for_o any_o blessing_n we_o must_v call_v upon_o he_o beside_o our_o father_n do_v belong_v to_o every_o petition_n no_o other_o person_n be_v mention_v in_o this_o prayer_n so_o that_o the_o sense_n run_v thus_o our_o father_n etc._n etc._n let_v thy_o kingdom_n come_v our_o father_n let_v thy_o will_v be_v do_v etc._n etc._n and_o then_o the_o import_n of_o this_o injunction_n will_v be_v this_o when_o you_o pray_v for_o the_o advancement_n of_o god_n glory_n or_o the_o promotion_n of_o his_o kingdom_n or_o the_o performance_n of_o his_o will_n when_o you_o solicit_v for_o any_o temporal_a blessing_n or_o for_o the_o pardon_n of_o your_o sin_n or_o last_o for_o the_o prevention_n of_o any_o evil_n or_o temptation_n of_o what_o kind_n soever_o when_o you_o desire_v any_o of_o these_o mercy_n for_o yourselves_o or_o other_o pray_v to_o your_o heavenly_a father_n for_o they_o 3._o none_o of_o these_o blessing_n must_v be_v ask_v of_o he_o to_o who_o the_o kingdom_n power_n and_o glory_n do_v not_o of_o right_a belong_v for_o this_o be_v add_v as_o the_o cause_n or_o motive_n of_o make_v these_o address_n to_o god_n and_o where_o the_o motive_n or_o cause_n be_v want_v the_o effect_n must_v cease_v now_o to_o god_n only_o the_o kingdom_n power_n and_o glory_n do_v agree_v judas_n 25._o we_o therefore_o must_v address_v our_o prayer_n to_o he_o only_o for_o the_o obtain_n of_o these_o blessing_n and_o lest_o you_o shall_v object_v that_o this_o argument_n exclude_v the_o three_o and_o second_o person_n of_o the_o sacred_a trinity_n let_v it_o be_v note_v that_o all_o the_o schoolman_n do_v affirm_v that_o the_o word_n father_n in_o this_o prayer_n must_v not_o be_v take_v personal_o but_o essential_o and_o so_o exclude_v not_o the_o other_o person_n of_o the_o trinity_n but_o those_o thing_n only_o which_o have_v not_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o they_o 2._o prayer_n offer_v up_o in_o any_o time_n or_o place_n to_o a_o invisible_a and_o for_o any_o thing_n we_o know_v a_o be_v absent_a from_o we_o as_o far_o as_o earth_n from_o heaven_n do_v ascribe_v unto_o that_o be_v the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n now_o to_o worship_v any_o be_v whether_o saint_n or_o angel_n with_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o worship_n which_o do_v ascribe_v unto_o it_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o desire_n and_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n both_o where_o and_o whensoever_o they_o be_v conceive_v or_o utter_v be_v to_o ascribe_v unto_o they_o by_o way_n of_o worship_n what_o be_v not_o due_a to_o saint_n or_o angel_n but_o alone_o to_o god_n as_o have_v be_v prove_v already_o and_o may_v be_v further_o thus_o confirm_v 1._o if_o saint_n depart_v be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o desire_n of_o our_o heart_n why_o do_v elijah_n speak_v unto_o elisha_n thus_o 2.9_o 2_o king_n 2.9_o ask_v what_o thou_o will_v before_o i_o be_o take_v from_o thou_o the_o scripture_n do_v affirm_v that_o he_o be_v take_v up_o into_o the_o heaven_n and_o therefore_o do_v behold_v the_o face_n of_o god_n and_o roman_a catholic_n themselves_o deny_v that_o he_o be_v hold_v in_o limbo_n as_o they_o imagine_v other_o prophet_n be_v be_v in_o heaven_n his_o love_n unto_o elisha_n and_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v not_o diminish_v but_o enlarge_v and_o therefore_o upon_o that_o account_n he_o have_v a_o strong_a reason_n to_o ask_v what_o he_o desire_v then_o before_o beside_o the_o prophet_n be_v now_o with_o god_n in_o heaven_n his_o prayer_n will_v more_o effectual_o prevail_v for_o any_o blessing_n for_o his_o friend_n and_o therefore_o he_o have_v great_a reason_n to_o have_v say_v have_v he_o believe_v this_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n ask_v what_o thou_o will_v when_v i_o be_o take_v from_o thou_o and_o therefore_o we_o have_v reason_n to_o presume_v that_o he_o do_v not_o believe_v this_o doctrine_n but_o rather_o think_v that_o his_o departure_n will_v render_v all_o elijah_n future_a wish_n and_o add_v ress_n to_o he_o vain_a and_o ineffectual_a 2._o from_o that_o know_a passage_n of_o isaiah_n abraham_n nescivit_fw-la nos_fw-la &_o israel_n ignoravit_fw-la nos_fw-la st._n augustine_n thus_o conclude_v 13._o conclude_v si_fw-mi tanti_fw-la patriarchae_fw-la quid_fw-la erga_fw-la populum_fw-la ex_fw-la his_fw-la procreatum_fw-la ageretur_fw-la ignoraverunt_fw-la quibus_fw-la deo_fw-la credentibus_fw-la populus_fw-la ipse_fw-la ex_fw-la corum_fw-la stirpe_fw-la promissus_fw-la est_fw-la quomodo_fw-la mortui_fw-la suorum_fw-la rebus_fw-la atque_fw-la actubus_fw-la cognoscendis_fw-la adjuvandisque_fw-la miscentur_fw-la ibi_fw-la ergo_fw-la sunt_fw-la spiritus_fw-la defunctorum_fw-la ubi_fw-la non_fw-la vident_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la aguntur_fw-la aut_fw-la eveniunt_fw-la in_o ista_fw-la vita_fw-la hominibus_fw-la de_fw-fr curâ_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la c._n 13._o if_o such_o great_a patriarch_n be_v ignorant_a of_o what_o be_v do_v towards_o the_o people_n that_o proceed_v from_o their_o loin_n how_o shall_v the_o dead_a be_v conversant_a in_o know_v or_o help_v of_o their_o friend_n in_o what_o they_o do_v there_o therefore_o be_v the_o spirit_n of_o dead_a person_n where_o they_o do_v not_o see_v what_o thing_n be_v do_v or_o happen_v to_o man_n in_o this_o life_n 2._o i_o reason_v thus_o this_o practice_n do_v ascribe_v unto_o the_o object_n of_o our_o prayer_n such_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o such_o a_o cognisance_n of_o all_o petition_n present_v to_o they_o at_o all_o time_n and_o in_o all_o place_n of_o the_o world_n which_o we_o have_v prove_v to_o agree_v to_o god_n alone_o or_o such_o a_o presence_n in_o all_o place_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o he_o and_o therefore_o it_o ascribe_v to_o they_o the_o honour_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o 2._o if_o saint_n depart_v do_v know_v the_o mind_n and_o inward_a thought_n of_o those_o who_o put_v up_o their_o petition_n to_o they_o they_o have_v this_o knowledge_n either_o from_o revelation_n or_o from_o the_o beatific_a vision_n but_o they_o have_v no_o such_o knowledge_n either_o from_o revelation_n or_o from_o the_o beatific_a vision_n ergo._n and_o 1._o god_n do_v not_o ordinary_o reveal_v unto_o they_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n of_o their_o petitioner_n for_o if_o they_o do_v not_o want_v this_o revelation_n god_n who_o do_v nothing_o vain_o must_v not_o be_v suppose_v to_o impart_v it_o but_o these_o bless_a spirit_n do_v not_o want_v it_o for_o do_v they_o need_v this_o revelation_n to_o perceive_v our_o mind_n say_v bellarmine_n the_o church_n will_v not_o so_o confident_o say_v to_o all_o the_o saint_n 2._o votis_n precamur_fw-la cordium_fw-la audite_fw-la preces_fw-la supplicum_fw-la brev._n in_o com._n apost_n p._n 2._o pray_v for_o i_o much_o less_o we_o offer_v to_o you_o the_o desire_n of_o our_o heart_n but_o sometime_o will_v desire_v god_n thus_o to_o reveal_v our_o prayer_n and_o to_o acquaint_v they_o with_o the_o desire_n of_o our_o heart_n 2._o if_o god_n thus_o reveal_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o petitioner_n to_o the_o decease_a saint_n what_o reason_n can_v be_v give_v say_v the_o forementioned_a author_n why_o all_o the_o holy_a patriarch_n and_o prophet_n be_v not_o invoke_v by_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n before_o our_o saviour_n advent_n and_o he_o have_v reason_n to_o make_v this_o enquiry_n for_o 1._o it_o be_v as_o easy_a to_o almighty_a god_n to_o make_v this_o revelation_n to_o the_o soul_n in_o limbo_n that_o papal_a prison_n of_o the_o ancient_a patriarch_n and_o holy_a prophet_n as_o to_o the_o soul_n in_o heaven_n nor_o have_v we_o one_o example_n or_o declaration_n that_o what_o god_n be_v suppose_v now_o to_o do_v he_o be_v not_o willing_a to_o do_v then_o 2._o certain_a it_o be_v the_o charity_n of_o those_o depart_a patriarch_n and_o prophet_n towards_o their_o relative_n and_o friend_n and_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n must_v be_v exceed_o advance_v by_o their_o change_n they_o must_v be_v more_o the_o friend_n of_o god_n and_o their_o petition_n must_v be_v more_o prevail_a then_o whilst_o they_o do_v continue_v in_o the_o flesh_n wherefore_o the_o jew_n have_v as_o good_a reason_n to_o invoke_v these_o patriarch_n and_o prophet_n as_o have_v the_o romanist_n to_o call_v upon_o the_o christian_a martyr_n and_o god_n have_v equal_a reason_n to_o declare_v this_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o to_o reveal_v their_o supplication_n to_o the_o patriarch_n as_o to_o
repugnant_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o opposite_a to_o the_o honour_n of_o jesus_n christ_n our_o only_a mediator_n or_o that_o it_o be_v a_o foolish_a thing_n to_o pray_v unto_o they_o either_o with_o vocal_a or_o with_o mental_a prayer_n do_v impious_o think_v this_o they_o command_v all_o pastor_n to_o teach_v to_o all_o their_o faitful_a people_n and_o they_o pronounce_v anathema_n on_o any_o person_n that_o shall_v teach_v or_o think_v the_o contrary_n the_o roman_a catechism_n inform_v we_o that_o 584._o that_o jure_fw-la autem_fw-la sancts_n dei_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la huic_fw-la gratiarum_fw-la actioni_fw-la preces_fw-la etiam_fw-la &_o implorationem_fw-la sanct_n ssimas_fw-la dei_fw-la matris_fw-la adjurixit_fw-la qud_a pie_n atque_fw-la suppliciter_fw-la ad_fw-la eam_fw-la confugeremus_fw-la ut_fw-la nobis_fw-la peccatoribus_fw-la shall_fw-mi intermissione_n conciliaret_fw-la deum_fw-la bonaque_fw-la tum_fw-la ad_fw-la hanc_fw-la tum_fw-la ad_fw-la aeternam_fw-la vitam_fw-la necessaria_fw-la impetraret_fw-la ergo_fw-la nos_fw-la exules_fw-la silij_fw-la evae_n qui_fw-la hanc_fw-la lachrymarum_fw-la vallem_fw-la incolimus_fw-la assidnè_fw-la misericordiae_fw-la matrem_fw-la ac_fw-la fidelis_fw-la populi_fw-la advocatam_fw-la invocare_fw-la debemus_fw-la ut_fw-la oret_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la peccatoribus_fw-la ab_fw-la edque_fw-la hac_fw-la prece_fw-la opem_fw-la &_o auxilium_fw-la implerare_fw-la cujus_fw-la &_o praestantissimu_fw-la merita_fw-la apud_fw-la deum_fw-la esse_fw-la &_o summam_fw-la voluntatem_fw-la juvandi_fw-la humanum_fw-la genus_fw-la nemo_fw-la nisi_fw-la impid_a &_o nefariè_fw-la dubitare_fw-la potest_fw-la catech._n rom._n part._n 4._o c._n 5._o sect._n 8._o p._n 584._o the_o holy_a church_n of_o god_n do_v teach_v we_o pious_o and_o humble_o to_o fly_v unto_o the_o mother_n of_o god_n and_o to_o entreat_v she_o by_o her_o intercession_n to_o reconcile_v god_n to_o we_o sinner_n and_o to_o obtain_v those_o good_a thing_n for_o we_o which_o be_v necessary_a both_o for_o this_o present_a life_n and_o that_o which_o be_v eternal_a wherefore_o we_o exile_a son_n of_o eve_n who_o live_v in_o this_o vale_n of_o tear_n continual_o aught_o to_o entreat_v this_o mother_n of_o mercy_n and_o advocate_n of_o faithful_a people_n that_o she_o will_v pray_v for_o we_o sinner_n and_o by_o this_o prayer_n to_o implore_v her_o help_n agreeable_a to_o this_o doctrine_n be_v many_o form_n of_o prayer_n record_v in_o the_o ancient_a missal_n and_o breviaries_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o in_o those_o likewise_o which_o have_v be_v publish_v and_o correct_v by_o the_o decree_n and_o order_n of_o the_o council_n hold_v at_o trent_n for_o to_o st._n peter_n they_o pray_v thus_o beat_v pastor_n petre_n rom_n erov_n rom_n clemens_fw-la accipe_fw-la voces_fw-la precantum_fw-la criminúmque_fw-la vinoula_fw-la verbo_fw-la resolve_n cvi_fw-la potestas_fw-la tradita_fw-la aperire_fw-la terris_fw-la coelum_fw-la apertum_fw-la claudore_fw-la peter_n bless_a shepherd_n gracious_o receive_v our_o prayer_n our_o band_n of_o sin_n untie_v by_o thy_o sole_a word_n to_o who_o the_o power_n be_v give_v to_o open_v wide_a and_o shut_v the_o gate_n of_o heaven_n to_o all_o the_o apostle_n thus_o ●_o communt_fw-la apost_n p._n ●_o vos_fw-fr sacli_fw-la justi_fw-la judices_fw-la et_fw-la vera_fw-la mundi_fw-la lumina_fw-la votis_n precamur_fw-la cordium_fw-la audite_fw-la preces_fw-la supplicum_fw-la qui_fw-la coelum_fw-la verbo_fw-la clauditis_fw-la serasque_fw-la ejus_fw-la solvitis_fw-la nos_fw-la à_fw-la peccatis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la solvite_fw-la jussv_fw-la quesumus_fw-la quorum_fw-la praecepto_fw-la subditur_fw-la salus_fw-la &_o languor_n omnium_fw-la sanate_n aegros_fw-la moribus_fw-la nos_fw-la reddentes_fw-la virtutibus_fw-la you_o that_o be_v judge_n of_o the_o world_n and_o its_o true_a light_n that_o bright_o shine_v with_o hearty_a wish_n we_o entreat_v out_o humble_a supplication_n hear_v you_o that_o do_v shut_v heaven_n temple_n gate_n and_o by_o your_o word_n unlock_v the_o same_o our_o guilty_a soul_n from_o punishment_n release_v we_o pray_v by_o your_o command_n for_o in_o a_o instant_n your_o command_n sickness_n and_o health_n do_v both_o perceive_v heal_n therefore_o our_o disease_a mind_n and_o every_o grace_n in_o we_o increase_v virgo_fw-la dulcedine_fw-la plena_fw-la in_o te_fw-la sperantes_fw-la audi_fw-la 12._o miss_n de_fw-fr sanct●_n genovefa_n f._n 12._o miserando_fw-la precantes_fw-la deal_v peccamen_n vexatis_fw-la praebe_fw-la juvamen_fw-la omnibus_fw-la &_o moestis_fw-la solamen_fw-la porridge_n semper_fw-la to_o genovefa_n thus_o hear_v we_o that_o pray_v bless_a genovefe_n and_o pity_v those_o who_o hope_v in_o thou_o blot_v out_o our_o sin_n and_o send_v relief_n and_o comfort_n in_o sad_a misery_n cerne_n tua_fw-la n_o familiam_fw-la 13._o miss_n de_fw-fr sancto_fw-it sebast_n f._n 13._o quae_fw-la orat_fw-la flexis_fw-la genibus_fw-la 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the_o roman_a church_n do_v make_v it_o good_a and_o profitable_a for_o all_o people_n to_o call_v upon_o they_o in_o all_o place_n though_o as_o far_o distant_a from_o they_o as_o be_v earth_n from_o heaven_n or_o as_o one_o corner_n of_o the_o earth_n be_v from_o the_o other_o some_o of_o these_o father_n do_v conceive_v the_o saint_n be_v present_a at_o their_o tomb_n and_o shrine_n and_o be_v so_o they_o may_v attend_v unto_o the_o prayer_n of_o they_o that_o do_v resort_v unto_o they_o thus_o when_o it_o be_v object_v by_o vigilantius_n to_o st._n jerom_n if_o it_o be_v so_o than_o the_o soul_n of_o martyr_n love_v their_o ash_n and_o hover_v still_o about_o they_o and_o be_v always_o there_o lest_o if_o any_o petitioner_n shall_v come_v they_o be_v absent_a shall_v not_o hear_v he_o i_o say_v when_o this_o be_v urge_v by_o vigilantius_n agreeable_o to_o that_o opinion_n which_o then_o begin_v to_o gather_v strength_n and_o to_o be_v own_v in_o the_o christian_a church_n st._n jerom_n do_v not_o as_o t._n g._n deny_v the_o sequel_n but_o lay_v down_o this_o absurd_a and_o monstrous_a tenet_n to_o defend_v it_o that_o sunt_fw-la that_o si_fw-mi agnus_fw-la ubique_fw-la ergo_fw-la &_o high_a qui_fw-la cum_fw-la agno_fw-la sunc_fw-la ubique_fw-la esse_fw-la credend●_fw-la sunt_fw-la if_o the_o lamb_n be_v every_o where_o they_o also_o that_o be_v with_o the_o lamb_n must_v be_v believe_v to_o be_v every_o where_n moreover_o he_o represent_v it_o as_o a_o wicked_a speech_n of_o vigilantius_n vigilant_a vigilantius_n ais_fw-mi enim_fw-la vel_fw-la in_o sinu_fw-la abrahae_fw-la vel_fw-la in_o loco_fw-la refrigerii_fw-la vel_fw-la subter_fw-la aram_fw-la dei_fw-la animas_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la &_o martyrum_fw-la consedisse_fw-la nec_fw-la posse_fw-la de_fw-la suis_fw-la tumulis_fw-la &_o ubi_fw-la vol●erunt_fw-la adesse_fw-la praesentes_fw-la hier._n adversus_fw-la vigilant_a that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o martyr_n can_v not_o be_v present_a at_o their_o tomb_n never_o suggest_v in_o the_o least_o that_o such_o a_o presence_n be_v needless_a to_o this_o end_n 16._o end_n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la c._n 16._o st._n austin_n do_v affirm_v that_o either_o the_o martyr_n themselves_o must_v be_v at_o one_o time_n in_o such_o divers_a place_n so_o far_o distant_a from_o one_o another_o viz._n as_o they_o be_v distant_a with_o who_o they_o be_v conceive_v to_o pray_v at_o their_o memorial_n or_o if_o they_o be_v not_o present_a they_o must_v be_v remove_v from_o all_o commerce_n with_o the_o affair_n of_o man_n here_o and_o only_o pray_v in_o general_a for_o the_o necessity_n of_o supplicant_n sulpitius_n upon_o the_o death_n of_o st._n martin_n comfort_v himself_o with_o this_o consideration_n batav_n consideration_n non_fw-la deerit_fw-la nobis_fw-la ille_fw-la mibi_fw-la crede_fw-la non_fw-la deerit_fw-la intererit_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la sermocinantibus_fw-la adsiabit_fw-la orantibus_fw-la epist_n 2._o de_fw-la obitu_fw-la &_o appar_fw-la s._n martini_n p._n 533_o ed._n lugd._n batav_n that_o he_o will_v not_o be_v want_v to_o they_o and_o of_o this_o assertion_n he_o immediate_o subjoin_v this_o reason_n viz_o he_o will_v be_v present_a with_o we_o speak_v of_o he_o and_o will_v stand_v by_o we_o when_o we_o pray_v upon_o which_o passage_n the_o scholiast_n observe_v that_o it_o be_v vulgar_o believe_v that_o holy_a martyr_n be_v present_a at_o their_o sepulcher_n that_o this_o be_v also_o the_o opinion_n of_o nazianzen_n basil_n and_o all_o the_o father_n cite_v by_o t.g._n be_v large_o prove_v by_o †_o bochartus_fw-la if_o then_o these_o father_n do_v in_o this_o particular_a maintain_v what_o be_v confess_o erroneous_a why_o may_v they_o not_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o same_o mistake_n touch_v the_o doctrine_n of_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v and_o then_o that_o error_n in_o their_o judgement_n must_v necessary_o give_v rise_v to_o that_o unwarrantable_a practice_n which_o in_o those_o time_n begin_v to_o be_v approve_v have_v in_o general_a lay_v down_o these_o proposition_n 4._o traiteé_v second_o de●l'invoc_n des_fw-fr saint_n c._n 4._o i_o may_v decline_v all_o far_a answer_n to_o what_o t.g._n produce_v from_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o fore_n mention_v father_n in_o favour_n of_o that_o practice_n we_o dispute_v against_o but_o that_o he_o may_v not_o think_v we_o study_v to_o decline_v what_o he_o have_v offer_v we_o proceed_v to_o a_o particular_a reflection_n on_o they_o and_o shall_v endeavour_v to_o demonstrate_v that_o they_o be_v either_o cite_v out_o of_o spurious_a and_o doubtful_a book_n or_o be_v impertinent_o allege_v and_o cor._n sect._n 7._o hom._n 26._o in_o 2_o cor._n 1._o among_o the_o spurious_a or_o doubtful_a author_n we_o reckon_v that_o passage_n cite_v from_o st._n chrysostom_n this_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o erasmus_n who_o in_o his_o preface_n before_o his_o latin_a translation_n of_o basil_n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la say_v that_o there_o be_v something_n in_o that_o book_n which_o must_v own_v he_o for_o their_o parent_n who_o mix_v his_o weak_a and_o wordy_a trifle_n with_o the_o sweet_a work_n of_o athanasius_n on_o the_o same_o subject_n and_o who_o in_o this_o epistle_n and_o in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n endeavour_v to_o be_v esteem_v chrysostom_n and_o therefore_o when_o erasmus_n come_v to_o the_o seven_o homily_n of_o this_o epistle_n he_o will_v translate_v no_o far_o 2._o this_o passage_n in_o some_o edition_n be_v not_o extant_a though_o these_o edition_n have_v proceed_v from_o the_o hand_n of_o romanist_n 423._o novelty_n of_o popery_n p._n 422_o p._n 423._o 3_o peter_n du_n moulin_n make_v evident_a the_o falsehood_n of_o this_o passage_n and_o the_o word_n precede_v not_o only_o from_o the_o diversity_n of_o the_o stile_n and_o want_v of_o a_o connexion_n with_o the_o precedent_a word_n but_o chief_o from_o the_o doctrine_n so_o full_a of_o ignorance_n &_o absurdity_n as_o show_v it_o to_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o judgement_n and_o learning_n of_o that_o holy_a father_n last_o this_o place_n be_v cite_v by_o garesius_n under_o the_o name_n of_o theodorus_n daphnopatus_n 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr sanct._n i●_n unc_n p._n 〈◊〉_d who_o therefore_o be_v most_o like_a to_o be_v the_o father_n of_o this_o spurious_a passage_n second_o among_o spurious_a and_o doubtful_a writing_n we_o may_v reckon_v the_o oration_n upon_o cyprian_n false_o ascribe_v to_o gregory_n nazianzen_n where_o s._n justina_n be_v bring_v in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ay_o e_o entreat_v that_o the_o virgin_n mary_n will_v defend_v she_o against_o c●●●an_n who_o be_v then_o a_o pagan_a endeavour_v by_o magical_a enchantment_n to_o attempt_v her_o chastity_n but_o find_v his_o attempt_n all_o frustrate_a be_v by_o that_o mean_v convert_v to_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o be_v that_o famous_a bishop_n of_o carthage_n who_o memory_n be_v precious_a through_o the_o christian_a world_n whereas_o 1._o it_o be_v certain_a st._n cyprian_n be_v never_o in_o his_o life_n a_o sorcerer_n 1._o pag._n 1._o for_o pontius_n his_o deacon_n who_o have_v write_v his_o life_n assure_v we_o that_o whilst_o he_o be_v a_o heathen_a he_o be_v addict_v to_o good_a art_n and_o such_o as_o tend_v to_o the_o benefit_n of_o the_o world_n which_o sure_o no_o christian_n will_v affirm_v of_o a_o '_o magician_n 2._o whereas_o this_o fable_n ascribe_v his_o conversion_n to_o justina_n or_o the_o experience_n of_o his_o vain_a attempt_n upon_o she_o this_o pontius_n whole_o omit_v that_o fable_n and_o do_v assure_v we_o that_o he_o be_v convert_v by_o 2._o by_o erat_fw-la sane_fw-la illi_fw-la etam_fw-la de_fw-la nebis_fw-la contubern_v they_o viri_fw-la justi_fw-la &_o laud_n ibilis_fw-la memoriae_fw-la cecilii_fw-la &_o aetatetune_n &_o honore_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la qui_fw-la eum_fw-la ad_fw-la agnition●m_fw-la verae_fw-la divinita●is_fw-la a_o saeculari_fw-la errore_fw-la correxerat_fw-la p._n 2._o cecilius_n a_o carthaginian_a presbyter_n 3._o 5._o 3._o explosâ_fw-la fabula_fw-la
advantage_n to_o our_o cause_n the_o father_n speak_v upon_o this_o text_n if_o we_o have_v nothing_o more_o to_o say_v but_o what_o they_o have_v deliver_v on_o these_o word_n yet_o shall_v we_o have_v what_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a to_o confirm_v our_o faith_n and_o justify_v that_o imputation_n which_o we_o lie_v upon_o the_o cburch_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o they_o do_v express_o say_v that_o this_o exposition_n of_o t._n g._n and_o his_o infallible_a mother_n be_v not_o only_o false_a but_o a_o heretical_a exposition_n 15._o exposition_n ac_fw-la si_fw-la aliquis_fw-la haereticus_fw-la pertinaciter_fw-la obluctans_fw-la adversus_fw-la veritatem_fw-la voluerit_fw-la in_o his_o omnibus_fw-la exemplis_fw-la proprie_fw-la angelum_fw-la aut_fw-la intelligere_fw-la aut_fw-la intelligendum_fw-la esse_fw-la contenderit_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la quoque_fw-la viribus_fw-la veritatis_fw-la frangatur_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-fr trin._n c._n 15._o if_o any_o heretic_n say_v novatian_n who_o pertinacious_o strive_v against_o the_o truth_n will_v have_v we_o in_o all_o these_o example_n proper_o to_o understand_v the_o angel_n or_o will_v contend_v for_o such_o a_o sense_n of_o that_o expression_n in_o this_o he_o must_v assure_o be_v break_v by_o the_o force_n of_o truth_n this_o exposition_n of_o the_o papist_n say_v st._n cyril_n 115.116_o thesaur_n p._n 115.116_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i.e._n the_o sottish_a exposition_n of_o the_o arian_n the_o exposition_n of_o the_o protestant_n must_v therefore_o be_v both_o true_a and_o orthodox_n 2._o they_o add_v that_o 116._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n alexandr_n thesaur_n p._n 116._o if_o the_o enemy_n of_o christ_n do_v think_v that_o jacob_n be_v a_o holy_a man_n and_o one_o endn_v with_o the_o prophetic_a spirit_n when_o he_o speak_v these_o word_n they_o may_v be_v well_o ashamed_a to_o charge_v he_o with_o so_o gross_a a_o error_n as_o be_v the_o invocation_n of_o a_o angel_n with_o god_n this_o custom_n therefore_o of_o put_v up_o the_o same_o petition_n in_o the_o same_o sentence_n to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o bless_a angel_n or_o to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o saint_n or_o angel_n must_v be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v a_o thing_n arr._n thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orat._n 4_o contr_n arr._n exceed_o repugnant_a to_o the_o doctrine_n which_o then_o obtain_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o which_o they_o esteem_v the_o 115._o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d b._n cyrill_n alexandr_n thesau_n p._n 115._o gross_a error_n 3_o they_o give_v we_o this_o as_o a_o sufficient_a evidence_n that_o jacob_n speak_v not_o to_o a_o creature_n because_o he_o say_v 260._o orat._n 4._o contra_fw-la arian_n p._n 260._o the_o angel_n that_o deliver_v i_o from_o all_o evil_n hence_o it_o be_v manifest_a say_v athanasius_n and_o st._n cyril_n that_o he_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o a_o create_a angel_n but_o of_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o these_o petition_n prescribe_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o often_o tender_v both_o to_o saint_n and_o angel_n be_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o these_o father_n such_o as_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v tender_v to_o a_o creature_n and_o so_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n as_o therefore_o athanasius_n to_o the_o arian_n so_o say_v i_o to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 369._o rome_n contr._n arian_n ora_fw-la 2._o p._n 369._o let_v they_o know_v that_o never_o any_o good_a man_n put_v up_o such_o a_o prayer_n to_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v beget_v they_o be_v teach_v by_o christ_n to_o pray_v to_o god_n the_o father_n to_o be_v deliver_v from_o all_o evil._n 8._o c._n 16._o v._n 8._o and_o by_o the_o son_n of_o syrach_n to_o confess_v that_o it_o be_v he_o who_o deliver_v from_o all_o evil_a and_o this_o interpretation_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n will_v manifest_o appear_v to_o be_v the_o truth_n if_o we_o consider_v who_o this_o angel_n be_v for_o the_o angel_n who_o deliver_v he_o from_o all_o evil_a must_v be_v that_o very_a angel_n which_o deliver_v he_o from_o laban_n wrath_n and_o from_o the_o fury_n of_o his_o brother_n esau_n now_o the_o angel_n which_o say_v unto_o he_o i_o have_v see_v all_o that_o laban_n do_v unto_o thou_o 13._o 31_o gen._n 13.20_o 28_o gen._n 13._o return_v thou_o therefore_o into_o the_o land_n of_o thy_o kindred_n be_v the_o god_n of_o bethel_n the_o god_n to_o who_o he_o vow_v a_o vow_n that_o god_n who_o do_v appear_v in_o haran_n to_o he_o it_o be_v the_o god_n of_o his_o father_n abraham_n and_o the_o fear_n of_o isaac_n that_o rebuke_v laban_n and_o charge_v he_o not_o to_o do_v he_o hurt_v 4._o v._o 29.42.32_o gen._n 23._o 12_o hos_fw-la 4._o the_o angel_n that_o he_o wrestle_v with_o and_o with_o who_o he_o prevail_v be_v the_o god_n of_o heaven_n last_o it_o be_v his_o prayer_n to_o this_o god_n that_o make_v his_o brother_n esau_n melt_v into_o expression_n of_o the_o great_a love_n 2._o i_o answer_v this_o be_v no_o prayer_n but_o a_o wish_v thus_o when_o st._n paul_n conclude_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n the_o grace_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n and_o the_o love_n of_o god_n 13.14_o 2_o cor._n 13.14_o and_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v with_o you_o all_o i_o hope_v he_o do_v not_o pray_v unto_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o love_n of_o god_n and_o the_o communication_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n so_o then_o this_o passage_n may_v be_v thus_o expound_v i_o wish_v to_o god_n that_o he_o and_o that_o good_a angel_n who_o under_o he_o preserve_v i_o from_o all_o evil_n may_v preserve_v the_o lad_n some_o roman_a catholic_n confess_v that_o which_o we_o now_o contend_v for_o and_o tell_v we_o 18._o vide_fw-la vossium_n de_fw-fr invoc_n sanct._n disp_n 2_o th._n 18._o that_o although_o this_o practice_n in_o its_o self_n be_v good_a and_o profitable_a god_n will_v not_o suffer_v his_o own_o people_n to_o invoke_v these_o bless_a spirit_n lest_o they_o shall_v worship_v they_o as_o god_n idolatry_n be_v a_o vice_n they_o be_v so_o prone_a upon_o the_o least_o occasion_n to_o commit_v answer_v we_o find_v that_o notwithstanding_o the_o proneness_n of_o this_o people_n to_o that_o sin_n god_n often_o do_v appear_v in_o the_o similitude_n of_o angel_n to_o they_o he_o use_v the_o ministry_n of_o angel_n in_o the_o delivery_n of_o that_o law_n they_o do_v so_o high_o reverence_n he_o use_v their_o ministry_n both_o in_o confer_v of_o the_o choice_a blessing_n on_o his_o people_n and_o the_o inflict_a of_o the_o most_o remarkable_a judgement_n both_o on_o they_o and_o on_o their_o enemy_n and_o he_o deliver_v those_o thing_n touch_v the_o ministry_n and_o custody_n of_o holy_a angel_n which_o romanist_n conceive_v to_o be_v sufficient_a ground_n and_o motive_n for_o their_o invocation_n whence_o we_o may_v very_o well_o conclude_v it_o be_v not_o out_o of_o fear_n of_o any_o proneness_n of_o that_o people_n to_o this_o idolatry_n that_o he_o do_v not_o enjoin_v this_o practice_n but_o only_o because_o he_o be_v a_o jealous_a god_n and_o will_v not_o give_v his_o honour_n to_o another_o against_o the_o worship_n of_o a_o image_n or_o of_o the_o host_n of_o heaven_n or_o any_o other_o god_n which_o by_o the_o heathen_n be_v still_o worship_v under_o some_o visible_a representation_n we_o have_v frequent_a caution_n and_o very_o dreadful_a threaten_n in_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n but_o against_o this_o idolatry_n of_o worship_v those_o spirit_n which_o in_o their_o nature_n be_v invisible_a those_o writing_n give_v we_o not_o one_o caution_n or_o prohibition_n though_o they_o do_v often_o call_v they_o god_n of_o which_o affair_n i_o be_o not_o able_a to_o conceive_v a_o better_a reason_n than_o this_o be_v that_o it_o be_v just_a matter_n of_o suspicion_n that_o this_o rude_a heavy_a people_n may_v be_v prone_a to_o worship_v what_o they_o see_v but_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v fear_v that_o they_o shall_v worship_v what_o be_v invisible_a and_o seldom_o do_v appear_v and_o hence_o we_o find_v this_o people_n continual_o revolt_a from_o the_o invisible_a jehovah_n to_o the_o sun_n moon_n and_o star_n and_o to_o the_o heathen_a deity_n but_o never_o do_v we_o find_v they_o in_o the_o least_o incline_v to_o the_o worship_n of_o these_o bless_a spirit_n moreover_o if_o we_o do_v consider_v that_o in_o the_o whole_a new_a testament_n 8._o §_o 8._o we_o have_v not_o any_o precept_n to_o enjoin_v example_n to_o commend_v or_o promise_v to_o encourage_v we_o unto_o this_o invocation_n we_o have_v a_o further_a reason_n to_o believe_v that_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n disapprove_v of_o it_o for_o can_v we_o think_v that_o christ_n himself_o and_o all_o his_o servant_n and_o apostle_n will_v have_v neglect_v to_o
both_o in_o their_o council_n and_o ecclesiastical_a judicature_n until_o the_o seven_o century_n and_o which_o be_v cite_v both_o by_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n and_o of_o ephesus_n as_o rom._n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ex_fw-la council_n ephes_n act_n 1._o p._n 2._o p._n 327._o to._n 1._o council_n general_n edit_fw-la rom._n the_o order_n of_o canon_n the_o series_n of_o ecclesiastical_a law_n the_o ecclesastical_a constitution_n and_o council_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d act_n 2._o p._n 400._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 426._o v._n p._n 425._o p._n 491._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ex_fw-la council_n calce_v act_n 3._o p._n 241._o tom._n 2._o council_n the_o code_n it_o be_v a_o canon_n of_o that_o code_n to_o which_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n give_v the_o force_n and_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o universal_a law_n in_o these_o expression_n 12._o expression_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d act_n 4._o p._n 297._o vic_a justel_n cod._n canon_n p._n 6._o 12._o we_o think_v it_o equal_a that_o the_o canon_n make_v by_o holy_a father_n in_o every_o synod_n until_o now_o shall_v be_v observe_v 1._o can._n 1._o 2._o observe_v that_o what_o the_o canon_n thus_o express_v 3._o §_o 3._o viz._n that_o christian_n shall_v not_o name_v the_o angel_n be_v a_o anathema_n direct_v against_o those_o which_o pray_v to_o angel_n so_o theodoret_n and_o photius_n who_o call_v upon_o they_o for_o help_n or_o introduction_n to_o god_n so_o zonaras_n and_o aristenus_n who_o worship_v they_o locum_fw-la in_o locum_fw-la so_o theodoret_n dionysius_n christonius_n and_o the_o epitome_n of_o canon_n present_v by_o pope_n adrian_n to_o charles_n the_o great_a who_o say_v we_o must_v be_v bring_v to_o god_n by_o angel_n so_o aristenus_n and_o the_o amerbachian_n scholiast_n locum_fw-la in_o locum_fw-la and_o that_o to_o cure_v that_o disease_n the_o council_n do_v command_v all_o christian_n not_o to_o pray_v unto_o they_o so_o theodoret_n and_o oecumenius_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o evident_a it_o be_v that_o zonaras_n do_v true_o say_v that_o to_o name_n angel_n in_o this_o canon_n be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o invoke_v they_o whence_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n for_o two_o whole_a century_n and_o upward_o do_v forbid_v all_o christian_n to_o invoke_v angel_n to_o worship_n or_o to_o call_v upon_o they_o and_o do_v pronounce_v anathema_n on_o they_o that_o do_v so_o 3._o observe_v that_o what_o this_o canon_n do_v forbid_v 4._o §_o 4._o be_v not_o the_o invocation_n of_o wicked_a daemon_n or_o of_o damn_a spirit_n but_o of_o the_o bless_a angel_n for_o 1._o according_a to_o theodoret_n and_o photius_n they_o do_v condemn_v the_o worshipper_n of_o michael_n the_o archangel_n and_o those_o that_o go_v unto_o the_o oratory_n or_o church_n of_o st._n michael_n 2._o the_o canon_n do_v relate_v to_o christian_n who_o sure_o will_v not_o meet_v to_o worship_v devil_n nor_o do_v it_o recall_v they_o to_o good_a angel_n but_o to_o jesus_n christ_n 3._o the_o person_n reprehend_v be_v say_v to_o have_v take_v up_o this_o custom_n of_o go_v thus_o to_o good_a daemon_n from_o a_o pretence_n of_o their_o unworthiness_n to_o go_v to_o god_n or_o christ_n immediate_o and_o from_o a_o appearance_n of_o humility_n so_o chrysostome_n theodoret_n and_o other_o but_o to_o expect_v the_o help_n of_o devil_n to_o introduce_v they_o to_o god_n and_o to_o pretend_v humility_n in_o do_v such_o a_o horrid_a act_n be_v to_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o high_a madness_n 4._o theodoret_n and_o photius_n inform_v we_o that_o they_o who_o bring_v up_o that_o forbid_a practice_n be_v zealous_a for_o the_o law_n now_o that_o most_o strict_o do_v forbid_v the_o worship_n of_o all_o evil_a spirit_n it_o be_v deliver_v not_o by_o they_o but_o by_o the_o bless_a angel_n 4._o that_o which_o be_v here_o forbid_a 4._o §_o 4._o be_v what_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v daily_a practice_n for_o they_o do_v worship_n angel_n say_v the_o roman_a catechism_n 434._o part_n 3._o p._n 434._o this_o be_v and_o have_v be_v their_o perpetual_a custom_n to_o call_v upon_o they_o and_o to_o expect_v their_o help_n and_o patronage_n by_o virtue_n of_o those_o supplication_n hence_o that_o expression_n of_o the_o roman_a missal_n b._n missal_n hos_fw-la fidenter_fw-la deprecemur_fw-la ut_fw-la ab_fw-la ipsis_fw-la adjuvemur_fw-la apud_fw-la deum_fw-la jugiter_fw-la prosa_fw-la ad_fw-la s._n angelos_n f._n 32._o b._n to_o they_o with_o confidence_n let_v we_o pray_v for_o god_n assistance_n every_o day_n they_o do_v expect_v salvation_n from_o their_o intercession_n in_o that_o very_a sense_n in_o which_o theophylact_v assert_n the_o heretic_n expect_v to_o be_v save_v by_o angel_n viz_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o person_n minister_a unto_o our_o introduction_n to_o god_n and_o christ_n hence_o their_o petition_n that_o b._n that_o hostias_fw-la tibi_fw-la domine_fw-la laudis_fw-la offerimus_fw-la suppliciter_fw-la deprecantes_fw-la ut_fw-la easdem_fw-la angelico_n interveniente_fw-la suffragio_fw-la &_o placatus_fw-la accipta_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la nostram_fw-la provenire_fw-la concedas_fw-la missa_fw-la votiva_fw-la de_fw-la angelis_n p._n 5.36_o ed._n aut._n fol._n gaudium_fw-la erit_fw-la tibi_fw-la angelo_n dei_fw-la super_fw-la i_o peccatore_fw-la tuis_fw-la intercessionibus_fw-la deum_fw-la obtinente_fw-la missa_fw-la in_o honorem_fw-la proprii_fw-la angelif_n 16._o b._n ed._n antuerp_n so._n 1577._o angelorum_fw-la concio_fw-la sacra_fw-la &_o archangelorum_fw-la turma_fw-la inclyta_fw-la nostra_fw-la diluant_fw-la jam_fw-la peccata_fw-la praestando_fw-la superacaeli_fw-la gaudia_fw-la prosa_fw-la de_fw-la omnibus_fw-la sanctis_fw-la ibid._n f._n 33._o b._n by_o the_o intercession_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n they_o may_v obtain_v god_n favour_n and_o may_v be_v bring_v to_o life_n eternal_a if_o then_o that_o invocation_n which_o be_v here_o forbid_a be_v idolatry_n the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n must_v be_v so_o too_o 5._o this_o invocation_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n 6._o §._o 6._o be_v express_o say_v to_o be_v idolatry_n and_o therefore_o if_o it_o be_v not_o true_o so_o this_o synod_n and_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n must_v be_v pronounce_v false_a accuser_n now_o of_o this_o enormity_n they_o can_v not_o just_o be_v accuse_v for_o desert_v christ_n for_o notwithstanding_o this_o they_o do_v not_o look_v upon_o those_o angel_n they_o invoke_v as_o god_n but_o as_o inferior_a creature_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o preson_n instrumental_a and_o subservient_fw-fr unto_o our_o introduction_n to_o god_n and_o therefore_o think_v we_o shall_v procure_v god_n favour_n by_o the_o mean_n of_o angel_n because_o that_o god_n himself_o be_v not_o to_o be_v approach_v or_o apprehend_v and_o because_o christ_n be_v so_o exalt_v that_o they_o dare_v not_o make_v their_o immediate_a address_n to_o he_o now_o to_o think_v christ_n great_a than_o that_o we_o sinful_a creature_n shall_v make_v address_n to_o he_o make_v some_o show_n of_o our_o humility_n but_o can_v possible_o be_v charge_v with_o idolatry_n for_o shall_v any_o man_n conceive_v himself_o unworthy_a to_o appear_v before_o god_n or_o look_v upon_o he_o as_o unaccessable_a by_o one_o of_o so_o defile_v a_o spirit_n and_o therefore_o shall_v entreat_v the_o prayer_n of_o his_o pious_a neighbour_n we_o may_v conclude_v that_o he_o be_v very_o ignorant_a and_o vain_a in_o his_o imagination_n but_o can_v not_o thence_o conclude_v that_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n and_o so_o the_o reader_n see_v that_o notwithstanding_o these_o mistake_n of_o the_o angelick_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v no_o wrong_n do_v they_o when_o we_o charge_v their_o invocation_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n with_o idolatry_n for_o if_o the_o invocation_n of_o they_o when_o absent_a be_v not_o guilty_a of_o this_o crime_n these_o by-mistakes_a can_v never_o make_v it_o guilty_a of_o that_o imputation_n beside_o the_o synod_n and_o theodoret_n do_v put_v a_o clear_a distinction_n betwixt_o these_o two_o particular_n which_o by_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o roman_a doctor_n be_v confound_v and_o make_v to_o signify_v the_o same_o viz._n desertion_n of_o christ_n and_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n by_o pray_v to_o the_o bless_a angel_n as_o be_v apparent_a from_o this_o expression_n of_o theodoret_n the_o synod_n of_o laodicea_n make_v a_o law_n that_o christian_n shall_v not_o pray_v to_o angel_n nor_o forsake_v the_o lord_n christ_n whosoever_o do_v such_o thing_n say_v they_o accurse_a let_v he_o be_v because_o he_o have_v desert_v christ_n and_o give_v up_o himself_o unto_o idolatry_n last_o we_o do_v not_o find_v that_o they_o do_v so_o reject_v or_o desert_n christ_n as_o to_o deny_v his_o intercession_n in_o the_o heaven_n but_o only_o upon_o this_o account_n because_o they_o do_v not_o make_v immediate_a address_n to_o he_o for_o as_o st._n paul_n assert_n
amount_v to_o this_o only_a that_o they_o forbid_v only_o that_o supplication_n which_o be_v tender_v to_o they_o as_o to_o god_n or_o as_o to_o primary_n and_o only_a mediator_n but_o 1._o the_o canon_n speak_v of_o christian_n now_o to_o suppose_v that_o they_o who_o fundamental_a principle_n it_o be_v to_o own_o one_o only_a god_n shall_v also_o worship_v angel_n as_o god_n be_v the_o extremity_n of_o folly_n 2._o theodoret_n and_o jerom_n declare_v 10._o epist_n ad_fw-la algasiam_fw-la quest_n 10._o that_o they_o who_o do_v abet_v this_o doctrine_n be_v jew_n or_o person_n zealous_a of_o the_o law_n now_o these_o man_n know_v that_o angel_n be_v but_o the_o instrument_n and_o creature_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o can_v not_o worship_v they_o as_o go_n 3_o they_o choose_v these_o angel_n as_o fit_a person_n to_o introduce_v they_o to_o god_n and_o use_v their_o meditation_n upon_o this_o pretence_n that_o such_o mean_a person_n shall_v not_o go_v direct_o to_o he_o and_o therefore_o can_v not_o look_v upon_o they_o as_o partaker_n of_o the_o nature_n to_o god_n in_o a_o word_n 8._o §_o 8._o what_o can_v be_v more_o incredible_a than_o that_o st._n paul_n be_v assist_v by_o the_o holy_a spirit_n and_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n shall_v daily_o practise_v this_o worship_n and_o invocation_n of_o the_o holy_a angel_n and_o teach_v all_o christian_n so_o to_o do_v and_o yet_o affirm_v these_o thing_n without_o any_o limitation_n or_o distinction_n which_o if_o we_o may_v interpret_v they_o according_a to_o the_o plain_a and_o obvious_a meaning_n of_o the_o word_n do_v manifest_o condemn_v that_o which_o they_o do_v daily_a practice_n and_o lay_v upon_o saint_n paul_n and_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n on_o supposition_n of_o this_o practice_n the_o imputation_n of_o idolatry_n and_o of_o desert_v our_o bless_a lord_n and_o shall_v deliver_v and_o approve_v these_o thing_n as_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n which_o all_o man_n stand_v oblige_v to_o believe_v nothing_o can_v be_v more_o contrary_a unto_o the_o worship_n and_o invocation_n of_o these_o bless_a spirit_n than_o a_o express_a command_n that_o we_o shall_v neither_o worship_v nor_o invoke_v they_o can_v it_o then_o enter_v into_o the_o heart_n of_o any_o sober_a person_n to_o believe_v that_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n even_o when_o they_o teach_v and_o practise_v both_o shall_v make_v receive_v and_o in_o their_o universal_a synod_n shall_v solemn_o confirm_v a_o law_n without_o distinction_n or_o exception_n forbid_v both_o the_o worship_n and_o invocation_n of_o they_o and_o require_v all_o good_a christian_n to_o avoid_v this_o practice_n as_o be_v the_o desert_v of_o their_o saviour_n and_o the_o give_v of_o god_n worship_n to_o those_o spirit_n since_o this_o devotion_n have_v obtain_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n who_o ever_o hear_v of_o any_o romanist_n who_o roundly_o and_o without_o distinction_n will_v assert_v that_o to_o invoke_v a_o angel_n be_v idolatry_n or_o that_o this_o invocation_n be_v forbid_v by_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n as_o do_v theodoret_n and_o photius_n and_o the_o laodicean_n council_n who_o of_o they_o ever_o caution_v all_o christian_a people_n as_o st._n paul_n have_v do_v that_o no_o man_n shall_v seduce_v they_o to_o the_o worship_n of_o those_o bless_a spirit_n what_o council_n ever_o do_v decree_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v worship_v or_o invoke_v or_o own_o such_o doctrine_n as_o any_o part_n of_o christian_a faith_n and_o yet_o we_o find_v this_o do_v both_o by_o saint_n paul_n and_o by_o the_o laodicean_n council_n by_o origen_n theodoret_n and_o photius_n and_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n viz._n what_o they_o confirm_v by_o their_o daily_a practice_n they_o not_o only_o do_v forbid_v but_o they_o pronounce_v it_o to_o be_v idolatry_n and_o the_o desert_v of_o their_o saviour_n what_o they_o have_v thus_o decree_v in_o opposition_n to_o their_o own_o daily_a practice_n that_o they_o obtrude_v as_o a_o dictate_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o as_o the_o matter_n of_o their_o faith_n but_o against_o the_o worship_v of_o angel_n with_o divine_a worship_n or_o as_o sole_a or_o primary_n mediator_n which_o if_o we_o may_v believe_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o only_a thing_n in_o which_o they_o do_v offend_v we_o have_v no_o mention_n in_o the_o least_o that_o there_o be_v in_o the_o world_n such_o heretic_n as_o say_v it_o be_v beyond_o we_o or_o be_v too_o great_a a_o arrogance_n to_o go_v direct_o to_o the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o that_o god_n be_v inaccessible_a and_o therefore_o we_o must_v go_v to_o angel_n this_o synod_n i_o suppose_v must_v know_v as_o well_o as_o chrysostom_n and_o theodoret_n why_o therefore_o do_v they_o never_o mention_v as_o do_v the_o latter_a comment_n on_o this_o canon_n what_o they_o alone_o design_v to_o prevent_v why_o do_v they_o not_o recall_v these_o heretic_n unto_o that_o invocation_n of_o these_o bless_a angel_n which_o have_v obtain_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o tell_v they_o that_o they_o need_v not_o to_o desert_v the_o church_n or_o gather_v private_a conventicle_n in_o order_n to_o the_o invocation_n of_o these_o angel_n why_o do_v not_o they_o or_o or_o any_o other_o person_n that_o flourish_v in_o the_o four_o or_o five_o age_n of_o the_o church_n when_o this_o injunction_n be_v in_o force_n distinguish_v between_o the_o invocation_n of_o the_o holy_a angel_n which_o the_o church_n do_v practice_v and_o that_o which_o be_v forbid_v by_o this_o canon_n why_o do_v s._n 236._o s._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 5._o contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la p._n 236._o origen_n conclude_v that_o celsus_n have_v not_o read_v that_o passage_n of_o st._n paul_n to_o the_o colossian_n because_o he_o say_v the_o worship_n of_o the_o holy_a angel_n be_v no_o transgression_n of_o their_o law_n for_o what_o be_v this_o but_o to_o suggest_v that_o this_o text_n of_o 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the_o very_a ground_n and_o reason_n of_o that_o practice_n viz._n the_o benefit_n we_o may_v receive_v by_o put_v up_o request_n unto_o they_o and_o the_o concernment_n which_o lie_v upon_o we_o so_o to_o do_v in_o order_n to_o our_o preservation_n from_o all_o evil_a and_o the_o obtainment_n of_o the_o great_a blessing_n for_o he_o express_o tell_v we_o our_o care_n must_v be_v to_o get_v his_o favour_n who_o alone_o be_v god_n and_o that_o if_o celsus_n or_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n will_v have_v we_o to_o procure_v the_o favour_n of_o the_o inferior_a being_n he_o must_v know_v that_o all_o good_a spirit_n soul_n and_o angel_n if_o we_o do_v obtain_v god_n favour_n when_o we_o pray_v to_o he_o they_o need_v not_o be_v call_v upon_o for_o the_o assistance_n of_o their_o prayer_n for_o they_o will_v pray_v together_o with_o we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o be_v call_v upon_o so_o to_o do_v this_o he_o do_v frequent_o repeat_v and_o indeed_o it_o be_v the_o common_a language_n of_o those_o time_n he_o live_v in_o witness_v the_o like_a expression_n of_o arnobius_n 101._o arnobius_n in_o ho_o omne_fw-la quod_fw-la colendum_fw-la est_fw-la colimus_fw-la quod_fw-la adorari_fw-la convenit_fw-la adoramus_fw-la quod_fw-la obsequium_fw-la venerationis_fw-la exposcit_fw-la venerationibus_fw-la promeremur_fw-la cum_fw-la enim_fw-la divinitatis_fw-la ipsius_fw-la tencamus_fw-la caput_fw-la à_fw-la quo_fw-la ipsa_fw-la divinitas_fw-la divorum_fw-la omnium_fw-la quicunque_fw-la sunt_fw-la ducitur_fw-la supervacuum_fw-la putamus_fw-la personas_fw-la ire_n per_fw-la singulas_fw-la cum_fw-la &_o ipsi_fw-la qui_fw-la sint_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la habeant_fw-la nomina_fw-la nesciamus_fw-la &_o cujus_fw-la sint_fw-la praeterea_fw-la numeri_fw-la neque_fw-la liquidum_fw-la neque_fw-la comprehensum_fw-la neque_fw-la exploratum_fw-la habere_fw-la possimus_fw-la atque_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o terrestribus_fw-la regnis_fw-la necessitate_v nulla_fw-la compellimur_fw-la 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thing_n that_o may_v convenient_o be_v adore_v we_o venerate_v all_o that_o call_v for_o veneration_n for_o hold_v to_o the_o head_n from_o whence_o these_o divi_z borrow_v their_o divinity_n we_o think_v it_o needless_a to_o go_v to_o every_o person_n see_v we_o know_v not_o what_o they_o be_v what_o name_v they_o have_v or_o of_o what_o order_n they_o may_v be_v and_o as_o in_o honour_v the_o king_n we_o honour_v all_o that_o do_v belong_v unto_o he_o so_o what_o ever_o god_n you_o do_v propose_v unto_o we_o if_o they_o be_v of_o this_o kingly_a progeny_n and_o do_v belong_v unto_o this_o head_n although_o they_o do_v receive_v no_o worship_n from_o we_o they_o understand_v that_o they_o be_v worship_v together_o with_o their_o king_n and_o be_v include_v in_o that_o veneration_n which_o we_o pay_v to_o he_o 4._o this_o answer_n render_v the_o discourse_n of_o origen_n impertinent_a and_o a_o perfect_a declination_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o he_o and_o celsus_n for_o celsus_n thus_o dispute_v no_o god_n nor_o any_o son_n of_o god_n can_v possible_o descend_v from_o heaven_n but_o if_o you_o do_v assert_v this_o of_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n these_o be_v no_o other_o than_o our_o daemon_n 23●_n orig._n l._n 7._o 5._o p._n 23●_n to_o this_o st._n origen_n return_v this_o answer_n 1._o that_o to_o deny_v that_o any_o god_n descend_v from_o heaven_n be_v to_o deny_v what_o be_v esteem_v a_o thing_n common_a by_o the_o heathen_a world_n 2._o that_o christian_n do_v indeed_o confess_v this_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o angel_n to_o come_v down_o from_o and_o to_o ascend_v to_o heaven_n and_o to_o offer_v up_o the_o prayer_n of_o man_n to_o god_n but_o yet_o say_v he_o we_o must_v not_o worship_v they_o as_o god_n for_o all_o our_o prayer_n must_v be_v direct_v to_o god_n and_o to_o his_o son_n christ_n jesus_n who_o be_v the_o live_a word_n and_o god_n which_o argument_n if_o it_o have_v any_o strength_n at_o all_o consist_v in_o this_o that_o whi●h_v you_o must_v not_o worship_n and_o adore_v as_o god_n you_o must_v not_o pray_v unto_o but_o angel_n you_o must_v not_o worship_n and_o adore_v as_o god_n ergo_fw-la angel_n you_o must_v not_o pray_v unto_o this_o be_v that_o father_n plea_n to_o which_o t._n g._n may_v answer_v in_o behalf_n of_o celsus_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o he_o apparent_o distinguish_v those_o angel_n both_o from_o god_n and_o from_o the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o do_v not_o contend_v that_o we_o shall_v pray_v unto_o they_o as_o to_o that_o god_n who_o be_v the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a but_o only_o as_o to_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n who_o he_o appoint_v to_o preside_v over_o such_o person_n family_n and_o country_n and_o therefore_o he_o be_v content_v only_o that_o it_o may_v be_v lawful_a to_o say_v unto_o they_o as_o do_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o st._n sebastian_n cerne_n familiam_fw-la tuam_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la behold_v thy_o family_n and_o to_o st._n gabriel_n preserve_v thy_o country_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d celsus_n object_n that_o if_o with_o god_n we_o do_v adore_v his_o son_n then_o may_v we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d venerate_v his_o minister_n to_o this_o st._n origen_n reply_v that_o if_o 386._o if_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la lib._n 8._o p._n 386._o celsus_n by_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n have_v understand_v gabriel_n and_o michael_n and_o other_o angel_n and_o archangel_n and_o have_v contend_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v venerate_v perpaps_o by_o purify_n of_o the_o word_n and_o of_o the_o action_n of_o the_o venerator_n we_o may_v say_v something_o of_o that_o matter_n i.e._n perhaps_o some_o action_n which_o in_o some_o sense_n may_v bear_v the_o name_n of_o veneration_n may_v be_v perform_v to_o those_o angel_n this_o t._n g._n think_v a_o great_a advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n and_o wonder_n that_o the_o doctor_n will_v produce_v this_o passage_n but_o i_o conceive_v it_o be_v the_o clear_a confutation_n of_o it_o that_o we_o can_v desire_v for_o have_v grant_v this_o and_o then_o restrain_v our_o petition_n unto_o god_n the_o father_n and_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n as_o he_o express_o do_v he_o most_o apparent_o demonstrate_v that_o prayer_n can_v be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o forementioned_a service_n he_o allow_v to_o saint_n 2._o in_o that_o he_o thus_o distinguish_v of_o veneration_n and_o never_o do_v distinguish_v in_o the_o like_a manner_n of_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n or_o of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id_fw-la est_fw-la of_o adoration_n and_o worship_n it_o follow_v that_o although_o he_o think_v some_o veneration_n may_v be_v allow_v to_o angel_n in_o some_o inferior_a kind_n yet_o no_o petition_n be_v to_o be_v put_v up_o unto_o they_o and_o that_o no_o worship_n and_o adoration_n shall_v be_v give_v unto_o they_o 3._o when_o origen_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o passage_n say_v ibid._n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n ibid._n we_o christian_n venerate_a with_o supplication_n only_a god_n and_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n and_o put_v up_o our_o petition_n to_o god_n by_o his_o only_a son_n if_o he_o do_v understand_v only_o such_o supplication_n as_o be_v make_v to_o he_o as_o to_o the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a he_o be_v as_o vain_a and_o impertinent_a as_o t._n g._n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o dr._n for_o celsus_n only_o do_v contend_v for_o such_o a_o worship_n and_o consequent_o for_o such_o address_n only_o as_o agree_v unto_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n 4._o origen_n plain_o do_v inform_v we_o that_o the_o veneration_n he_o allow_v to_o angel_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 416._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n l._n 8._o p._n 416._o to_o speak_v well_o of_o they_o and_o pronounce_v they_o bless_v and_o imitate_v to_o their_o virtue_n and_o what_o be_v this_o to_o supplication_n 3._o celsus_n object_n that_o daemon_n do_v belong_v to_o god_n and_o therefore_o must_v be_v pray_v unto_o and_o
accusation_n which_o run_v thus_o viz._n that_o the_o dr._n say_v that_o baronius_n very_o fair_o tell_v we_o 383._o p._n 383._o that_o not_o only_o what_o theodoret_n condemn_v but_o what_o st._n paul_n too_o condemn_v be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n answ_n these_o word_n baronius_n fair_o tell_v we_o say_v the_o dr._n that_o what_o st._n paul_n condemn_v be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n be_v a_o malicious_a untruth_n the_o dr._n have_v take_v all_o the_o care_n imaginable_a to_o prevent_v this_o mistake_n in_o all_o judicious_a reader_n for_o this_o expression_n and_o st._n paul_n too_o which_o be_v the_o only_a ground_n of_o this_o rude_a charge_n he_o do_v not_o only_o put_v in_o a_o parenthesis_n but_o in_o a_o different_a character_n that_o so_o no_o reader_n may_v have_v the_o least_o appearance_n of_o colour_n for_o so_o false_a a_o imputation_n this_o t._n g._n see_v as_o be_v apparent_a from_o the_o word_n cite_v by_o he_o p._n 380._o and_o 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to_o pay_v that_o honour_n to_o these_o bless_a spirit_n which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o ergo._n the_o major_n be_v apparent_a from_o chap._n 6._o prop._n 1._o the_o minor_a i_o prove_v thus_o to_o pay_v that_o honour_n to_o these_o bless_a spirit_n which_o christian_n pay_v to_o god_n alone_o be_v to_o pay_v that_o honour_n to_o they_o which_o alone_o be_v due_a to_o god_n for_o why_o shall_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n which_o if_o we_o may_v believe_v the_o romanist_n receive_v so_o great_a advantage_n by_o their_o address_n to_o these_o bless_a spirit_n refuse_v to_o pay_v unto_o they_o those_o hymn_n and_o praise_n which_o be_v due_a unto_o they_o and_o which_o on_o this_o account_n be_v offer_v to_o they_o by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o to_o offer_v hymn_n unto_o they_o be_v to_o give_v that_o honour_n to_o they_o which_o christian_n pay_v to_o god_n alone_o for_o origen_n do_v in_o the_o name_n of_o all_o his_o fellow_n christian_n say_v 422._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ita_fw-la origcontr_n cell_n l_o 8._o p._n 422._o we_o offer_v up_o our_o hymn_n only_o to_o god_n and_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n 5._o to_o ascribe_v to_o all_o the_o saint_n depart_v and_o the_o holy_a angel_n the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o confession_n of_o our_o sin_n and_o upon_o that_o account_n to_o beg_v that_o they_o will_v intercede_v for_o pardon_n of_o they_o be_v to_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n 217._o ord._n missae_fw-la p._n 217._o but_o the_o romanist_n do_v in_o the_o service_n of_o the_o missal_n ascribe_v to_o all_o the_o bless_a spirit_n the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o sin_n they_o do_v confess_v and_o upon_o that_o account_n do_v beg_v that_o they_o will_v intercede_v for_o pardon_n of_o they_o ergo_fw-la the_o major_n may_v be_v thus_o confirm_v to_o ascribe_v to_o all_o these_o bless_a spirit_n now_o in_o heaven_n the_o knowledge_n of_o those_o confession_n which_o we_o make_v on_o earth_n and_o those_o petition_n we_o put_v up_o unto_o 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