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and_o rome_n all_o one_o with_o the_o city_n of_o philippi_n and_o rome_n etc._n etc._n defender_n no_o such_o matter_n i_o never_o think_v these_o scripture_n to_o belong_v at_o all_o to_o the_o city_n of_o philippi_n or_o rome_n paul_n write_v to_o both_o the_o church_n not_o only_o to_o tolerate_v but_o to_o receive_v their_o weak_a brethren_n who_o dissent_v from_o they_o in_o matter_n of_o less_o moment_n but_o to_o the_o city_n i_o never_o read_v any_o epistle_n of_o he_o who_o will_v ever_o imagine_v the_o discusser_n shall_v be_v so_o far_o transport_v beyond_o all_o bound_n either_o of_o reason_n or_o truth_n or_o candour_n as_o to_o surmise_v the_o answerer_n shall_v conceive_v that_o what_o those_o church_n must_v not_o tolerate_v in_o their_o holy_a communion_n that_o the_o city_n of_o philippi_n and_o rome_n must_v not_o tolerate_v within_o the_o compass_n
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answer_n have_v learn_v the_o language_n of_o lion_n like_o persecution_n etc._n etc._n for_o thus_o he_o write_v more_o and_o great_a prince_n than_o these_o you_o mention_v have_v not_o tolerate_v heretic_n and_o schismatic_o notwithstanding_o their_o pretence_n of_o conscience_n and_o their_o arrogate_a the_o crown_n of_o martyrdom_n to_o their_o suffering_n it_o be_v true_a these_o term_n heretic_n or_o wilful_o obstinate_a and_o schismatic_n be_v use_v in_o holy_a writ_n it_o be_v true_a also_o that_o such_o pretend_v conscience_n and_o arrogate_v the_o crown_n of_o martyrdom_n to_o their_o suffering_n but_o this_o be_v the_o common_a clamour_n of_o persecutor_n against_o the_o witness_n of_o jesus_n in_o all_o age_n you_o be_v heretic_n schismatic_n factious_a seditious_a rebellious_a defender_n if_o it_o be_v true_a that_o these_o be_v scripture_n term_n and_o by_o his_o own_o acknowledgement_n true_o applyable_a to_o heretic_n and_o schismatic_n then_o it_o seem_v the_o 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justification_n from_o sin_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n by_o our_o own_o work_n it_o be_v a_o antichristian_a corruption_n in_o worship_n to_o worship_v angel_n or_o saint_n or_o image_n it_o be_v a_o antichristian_a corruption_n in_o government_n to_o take_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o such_o a_o head_n as_o have_v power_n to_o make_v law_n to_o bind_v the_o conscience_n to_o authorise_v scripture_n to_o be_v canonical_a to_o add_v other_o book_n to_o scripture_n with_o like_a authority_n to_o be_v himself_o the_o only_a authentical_a interpreter_n of_o scripture_n and_o judge_n of_o controversy_n these_o and_o the_o like_a corruption_n be_v such_o as_o make_v antichrist_n a_o son_n of_o perdition_n and_o they_o that_o be_v lead_v by_o he_o to_o fall_v into_o like_a perdition_n with_o he_o of_o one_o of_o these_o point_v paul_n say_v they_o that_o hold_v it_o hold_v not_o the_o head_n col._n 2.18_o 19_o of_o another_o of_o these_o paul_n say_v 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philistines_n and_o yet_o not_o disannul_v their_o church-estate_n and_o by_o like_a proportion_n so_o may_v a_o church_n of_o christ_n take_v up_o some_o order_n as_o the_o cart_v of_o some_o part_n of_o their_o worship_n upon_o a_o book_n after_o the_o manner_n of_o antichrist_n and_o yet_o not_o forthwith_o evacuate_v their_o church-estate_n but_o this_o let_v i_o further_o add_v that_o a_o godly_a person_n may_v have_v some_o kind_n of_o communion_n so_o far_o as_o hear_v the_o word_n from_o a_o minister_n well_o gift_v by_o christ_n to_o who_o call_v some_o corruption_n may_v cleave_v both_o in_o his_o church-estate_n and_o in_o his_o ordination_n and_o yet_o nevertheless_o no_o antichristian_a pollution_n at_o all_o may_v cleave_v or_o redound_v to_o the_o hearer_n by_o his_o hear_n of_o he_o and_o this_o be_v the_o principal_a exception_n which_o the_o examiner_n take_v against_o some_o of_o the_o member_n of_o our_o church_n &_o against_o all_o the_o church_n for_o their_o sake_n we_o shall_v further_o god_n will_v clear_v when_o the_o examiner_n put_v it_o upon_o we_o in_o the_o sequel_n mean_a while_n we_o profess_v as_o we_o do_v believe_v that_o such_o a_o action_n be_v not_o any_o church-communion_n with_o antichrist_n nor_o do_v so_o enthrall_v the_o people_n of_o god_n unto_o antichrist_n as_o to_o separate_v they_o from_o christ_n no_o not_o as_o he_o be_v head_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n the_o answer_n which_o upon_o occasio_fw-la of_o this_o point_n the_o examiner_n give_v to_o the_o papist_n question_n where_o be_v your_o church_n before_o luther_n though_o it_o seem_v to_o he_o well_o and_o good_a yet_o it_o gratifi_v the_o papist_n and_o straitn_v the_o holy_a counsel_n of_o god_n in_o scripture_n the_o question_n say_v he_o be_v thus_o well_o answer_v to_o wit_n that_o since_o the_o apostasy_n of_o antichrist_n truth_n and_o the_o holy_a city_n according_a to_o the_o prophecy_n rev._n 11._o &_o 13._o have_v be_v tread_v underfoot_n 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world_n for_o so_o many_o century_n of_o year_n till_o luther_n than_o they_o ready_o conclude_v that_o their_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v before_o luther_n the_o only_a church_n in_o the_o world_n for_o they_o urge_v it_o and_o i_o know_v not_o how_o we_o can_v fair_o deny_v it_o that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n even_o that_o church_n to_o which_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n be_v commit_v which_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n be_v that_o against_o which_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o be_v able_a to_o prevail_v and_o so_o not_o all_o the_o power_n of_o antichrist_n if_o then_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o christ_n shall_v never_o cease_v and_o yet_o during_o all_o that_o time_n of_o the_o apostasy_n of_o antichrist_n no_o church_n be_v extant_a in_o the_o world_n but_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n then_o during_o all_o that_o time_n which_o be_v not_o yet_o expire_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v and_o have_v be_v the_o only_a church_n of_o christ_n these_o many_o age_n beside_o as_o this_o answerer_n gratifi_v the_o papist_n and_o make_v the_o promise_n of_o christ_n mat._n 16.18_o 19_o of_o none_o effect_v so_o it_o straitn_v the_o counsel_n of_o god_n in_o the_o very_a text_n of_o scripture_n allege_v by_o himself_o for_o in_o that_o text_n rev._n 11._o where_o the_o outward_a court_n be_v give_v to_o the_o gentile_n that_o be_v ecclesiastical_a court_n give_v to_o antichrist_n &_o his_o clergy_n v._n 2._o there_o also_o a_o rod_n or_o reed_n be_v give_v by_o the_o angel_n unto_o john_n to_o measure_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n and_o the_o altar_n and_o they_o that_o worship_n therein_o v._o 1._o which_o evident_o hold_v forth_o that_o even_o then_o there_o be_v somewhere_o extant_a the_o temple_n that_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n of_o christ_n which_o have_v communion_n with_o christ_n as_o head_n of_o the_o church_n there_o call_v the_o altar_n and_o the_o temple_n be_v furnish_v with_o true_a worshipper_n and_o all_o measure_v 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time_n wherein_o the_o beast_n reign_v rev._n 13.5_o and_o wherein_o the_o gentile_n have_v obtain_v rule_n in_o the_o court_n tread_v down_o the_o holy_a city_n underfoot_n rev._n 11.2_o moreover_o evident_a also_o it_o be_v that_o all_o the_o angel_n or_o minister_n of_o god_n wrath_n that_o pour_v out_o their_o vial_n upon_o the_o antichristian_a state_n do_v all_o of_o they_o issue_n forth_o out_o of_o the_o temple_n and_o out_o of_o the_o temple_n as_o then_o open_v rev._n 15.5_o 6_o which_o argue_v that_o the_o temple_n or_o church_n be_v not_o only_o then_o visible_a but_o open_o visible_a not_o visible_a only_o to_o the_o secret_a assembly_n of_o the_o true_a worshipper_n but_o open_o conspicuous_a to_o they_o that_o have_v not_o see_v it_o before_o now_o how_o all_o those_o seven_o angel_n shall_v come_v out_o of_o the_o temple_n and_o it_o open_o visible_a and_o all_o of_o they_o pour_v out_o their_o vial_n upon_o the_o antichristian_a state_n by_o seven_o degree_n to_o the_o 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next_o chapter_n wherein_o there_o be_v some_o mention_n of_o some_o text_n of_o scripture_n and_o let_v we_o see_v whether_o they_o will_v speak_v more_o to_o his_o purpose_n in_o that_o which_o remain_v to_o chap._n xv._o the_o text_n of_o scripture_n which_o mr._n williams_n allege_v not_o to_o prove_v the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o be_v false_a in_o their_o constitution_n ministry_n worship_n government_n for_o to_o that_o end_n he_o allege_v no_o scripture_n at_o all_o but_o to_o urge_v upon_o we_o a_o separation_n from_o they_o even_o from_o hear_v in_o their_o assembly_n be_v three_o isai_n 52.11_o 2_o cor._n 6.17_o rev._n 18.4_o whereof_o i_o certify_v he_o in_o my_o letter_n that_o two_o of_o they_o to_o wit_n the_o first_o and_o last_o make_v nothing_o to_o his_o purpose_n for_o that_o of_o isaiah_n and_o the_o other_o of_o the_o revelation_n speak_v of_o local_a separation_n which_o he_o know_v we_o have_v make_v and_o which_o neither_o he_o nor_o indeed_o ourselves_o 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the_o first_o that_o interpret_v either_o that_o place_n in_o isaiah_n or_o this_o in_o revelation_n of_o a_o local_a separation_n for_o as_o there_o be_v in_o old_a babel_n sundry_a of_o god_n israel_n inhabitant_n then_o when_o the_o mede_n and_o persian_n be_v about_o to_o take_v it_o and_o destroy_v it_o so_o will_v there_o be_v in_o new_a babel_n sundry_a of_o god_n choose_a people_n still_o inhabit_v among_o they_o even_o then_o when_o the_o ten_o king_n will_v be_v ready_a to_o take_v the_o city_n and_o to_o burn_v it_o with_o fire_n unto_o who_o as_o the_o lord_n send_v his_o angel_n to_o hasten_v lot_n out_o of_o sodom_n when_o he_o be_v about_o to_o destroy_v it_o so_o he_o have_v send_v and_o will_v send_v the_o voice_n of_o his_o messenger_n to_o hasten_v his_o people_n as_o well_o out_o of_o new_a babel_n as_o he_o do_v out_o of_o old_a before_o that_o sudden_a destruction_n fall_v upon_o the_o city_n and_o upon_o they_o in_o it_o he_o need_v not_o make_v it_o so_o 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reply_n 1._o it_o follow_v not_o for_o the_o angel_n that_o call_v they_o out_o of_o babel_n do_v not_o call_v they_o into_o judea_n or_o canaan_n there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o such_o place_n in_o that_o call_n at_o all_o 2._o there_o be_v and_o will_v be_v when_o rome_n be_v destroy_v and_o before_o it_o be_v destroy_v visible_a church_n of_o christ_n as_o be_v judea_n and_o canaan_n of_o old_a into_o which_o these_o saint_n who_o be_v call_v to_o depart_v out_o of_o rome_n have_v a_o just_a calling_n to_o come_v and_o to_o join_v themselves_o for_o it_o be_v out_o of_o the_o temple_n and_o out_o of_o the_o temple_n open_a in_o heaven_n out_o of_o which_o those_o angel_n come_v who_o power_n out_o the_o vial_n of_o god_n wrath_n both_o upon_o the_o antichristian_a state_n and_o upon_o the_o city_n of_o babylon_n itself_o rev._n 15.5_o 6._o with_o chap._n 16.19_o the_o examiner_n need_v not_o here_o ask_v whether_o mr._n cotton_n can_v satisfy_v his_o own_o soul_n or_o the_o soul_n 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themselves_o from_o their_o hypocrisy_n and_o inordinate_a love_n of_o this_o world_n or_o else_o they_o and_o their_o duty_n will_v still_o be_v unclean_a in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n notwithstanding_o their_o church-estate_n this_o collection_n tend_v to_o edification_n the_o other_o to_o dissipation_n and_o destruction_n of_o the_o church_n and_o wre_v blood_n instead_o of_o milk_n from_o the_o breast_n of_o holy_a scripture_n this_o text_n be_v so_o evident_a and_o pregnant_a and_o full_a against_o himself_o that_o i_o can_v not_o but_o marvel_n why_o he_o shall_v allege_v it_o and_o especial_o why_o he_o shall_v desire_v it_o may_v be_v thorough_o weigh_v and_o the_o lord_n to_o hold_v the_o scale_n himself_o how_o do_v you_o then_o think_v that_o he_o will_v hence_o infer_v his_o conclusion_n that_o godly_a person_n if_o unclean_a can_v constitute_v a_o true_a church_n or_o if_o they_o do_v they_o be_v to_o be_v separate_v from_o sure_o not_o from_o the_o word_n of_o the_o 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