THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND A true Church PROVED In a Disputation held by JOHN BASTWICK Doctor in Physick AGAINST Mr. WALTER MONTAGUE in the TOWER Buy the truth and sell it not also wisdom instruction and understanding Prov. 23. v. 23. Where there is no vision the people perish but he that keepeth the Law happy is he Prov. 29. v. 16. Published by Authority LONDON Printed for A. Crooke and I. Rothwell and are to be sold at their shops in Pauls Church-yard 1645. To the Reader Christian Reader IF thou desire to know the occasion of the ensuing discourse betweene mee and Master Montague of whom I may say this although he be an enemy that hee is both generosus doctus adversarius thou shalt not onely be fully satisfied of the necessity of the publishing of it but mayst also finde the true Church by the essentiall and undeceivable notes of the same the which wheresoever they appeare doe abundantly prove and delucidate it to be a true Church Now when they are to be found in the Church of England as in all the reformed Churches it may truely be concluded of them all that they are true Churches from the which there is no just ground and cause of separation As for the Church of England I may ever affirme this as I have in the following Treatise evinced that since the Apostles times the Gospell and the saving truths thereof have never been more purely preached and more chearfully received imbraced and believed and the Sacraments more duely administred and the Name of God more truly invocated and called upon then now in the Church of England that all those that live in it owe their conversion to the Ministery of the same so that with all good reason wee may infer that that Church that teacheth the knowledge of the onely true God and whom hee hath sent Jesus Christ John 17. and is able to build them up in their most holy faith is a true Church and where salvation may be found And therefore not onely those of the Church of Rome that do calumniate her and all the reformed Churches for hereticall are in a great errour and blame-worthy but more especially those that had the worke of regeneration wrought in their hearts by her ministery and owe their conversion to her and yet doe asperse her with odious tearmes absolutely denying her to be a true Church all such I say are likewise to be reproved and have for this their temerity a great deale to answer for before God and all good men for by these their expressions they doe not onely proclaime their owne unthankefulnesse unto Almighty God but their undutifulnesse and ingratitude unto their mother and their uncharitablenesse towards their brethren whom they account of as a company of Insidels denying communion with them in holy things though every way as good and as holy as themselves by all which their proceedings they doe not onely cast filth in all their faces and expose themselves to the ludibree of the world and bring an odium upon the whole Church but are a cause of division and schisme in the seamlesse garment of Christ and give a great scandall to the enemies of the Gospell and to all such as love the truth in sincerity without faction contrary to the Apostles rule who exhorts all Christians to take heed that they give no offence to the Jew nor to the Gentile nor to the Church of God But that all men may see I charge none falsly nor wrong them not in any thing I shall here recite some expressions of their principall leaders and teachers for to enumerate them all would be an endlesse worke as I had them from their owne mouthes in the presence of others and as I finde them in their printed bookes By word of mouth they say That the Church of England is an arrant Whore and Strumpet and that she that was once a Whore can never be presented unto Christ as a chaste Spouse then the which what could be more contumeliosly disgracefully and untruly spoken especially when it is uttered by such as had the worke of grace and conversion wrought in their hearts by the ministery of the Church if they have any grace or were ever truely converted though now they have disobediently deserted and forsaken her In print thus they declare themselves concerning the Church of England and all believers and their fellow brethren in it That the Church of England is a true whorish mother and that they that are of her are base begotten and bastardly children and that she neither is nor never was truely married joyned or united unto Jesus Christ in that espousall band which his true Churches are and ought to be but is one of Antichrists Nationall whorish Churches and Cities spoken of Revel 16.19 c. That the Church of England is false and Antichristian and as shee is a false and Antichristian Church shee can never make true Officers and Ministers of Jesus Christ and absolutely deny that conversion and confirmation and building up in the waies of God are wrought by the Ministery of the Church of England for how say they can they build them up in that which they themselves are ignorant of and enemies unto For as Jannes and Jambres with stood Moses so doe these men also resist the truth being men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth c. This is their Dialect and further they assert That as they have taken paines by the Word of God and demonstrable arguments grounded thereupon to prove the Church of England Antichristian so they promise to all the world that they will in the strength of the Lord of Hosts for ever seperate from Cuurch Ministery and worship of England and all and every one of them as Antichristian and false And conclude that all the Ministers of the Church of England are not true Ministers of Christ but false and Antichristian Ministers and that our Religion neither is the true Religion nor that it leads men the true way to salvation and they affirme that they groundedly and absolutely deny that either the Church of England is or ever was a true Church And from many such premises as these they exhort all good people that are in the bosome of the Church of England as they love their owne inward peace and spirituall joy to withdraw their spirituall obedience and subjection from her Others of them esteem no better of their brethren then of Insidels Vnbelievers and Heathens and proclaime them in their writings published by authority to be men who deny disclaime and preach against Christs Kingly government over his Churches men unconverted or at least converted but in part wanting the maine thing to wit Christs Kingly Office men visibly out of the Covenant of grace who have not so much as an outward profession of faith who deny Christ to be their King to whose persons and infants the very Sacraments and Seales of grace with all Church-communion may and
ought to be denyed And this is the language and opinion of many as their Pulpits can witnesse and their Pamphlets declare in the which they signifie unto us likewise that they have not spoke all they can plead for themselves and against us but that they doe keepe a reserve donee ad Triarios redierit res untill it come to a dead lift in case they shall be brought before Princes and Rulers to give an account of what they do or desire These are their formall words and farther adde that we put them upon too unreasonable a taske to satisfie us in all that they do and desire Whereas Saint Peter in his first Epistle chap. 3. commands all Christians to be ready to give a reason of their hope to every one that shall demand it of them And as by such expressions as these it doth evidently appeare they jugle and deale not candidly with their brethren and according to the revealed Will of God and the example of Paul who delivered unto the Ephesians the whole counsell of God and kept no reserve donee ad Triarios redierit res untill it came to a dead lift and that he was brought before Kings Rulers but publiquely and privately from house to house night and day taught them the whole counsell and will of God and withheld nothing that concerned them to know or practice nor never ketp any reserve Act. 20. So also they publish their uncharitablenesse and unchristian dealing towards their brethren whiles they not onely conceale from them and keepe a reserve of such things as they pretend are conducible to bring them to salvation and to a more perfect knowledge of Jesus Christ and of the good will pleasure and waies of God but whiles they un-Church un-Christian and un-Minister them likewise and make them all no better then the off-scouring of the earth and a company of cast-awaies which they doe in word and deed as their daily practice doth testifie and manifest to all men when they separate from our Congregations and assemblies and proclaime us all a false and an Antichristian Church and enemies of Jesus Christ and his Kingdome Now that I may manifest unto all the World that the Papists who accuse our Church to be hereticall doe most impiously and malignantly abuse us and that all other that deny the Church of England to be a true Church doe also most maliciously and falsely traduce us and belie the truth and for the convincing of both their errours and maintenance of the truth and in the just defence of the Church of England and for the proving of her a true Church and for the stopping also of the mouthes of all gainsayers I have published the following discourse which if thou Christian Reader shalt peruse without a prejudicate opinion I doubt not but thou wilt finde arguments sufficient to prove the Church of England a true Church and firme reasons also to continue constantly in the communion and fellowship of the same and to abhorre those unwarrantable waies of separation howsoever in their mildest and sweetest discourses they account of all such as now stand up in the defence of the truth against the errours of the times as of a company of Wolves Beares Lyons and Tygers for this is the language they give us and that in such bookes as in which they professe meekenesse of spirit with whom they ought to have no fellowship and brotherly communion And if thou through the blessing of God upon the reading of it shalt reape any benefit by it I shall desire thee to give the glory to God who hath used me as an instrument and to esteeme of him who as he is and ever shall be filius Ecclesiae Anglicanae so thy servant for our Masters sake JOHN BASTWICK THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND a true CHURCH By JOHN BASTWICK Doctor in Physick Master MOUNTAGUE AS there is nothing in the World I more wish and earnestly pray for than that God may be glorified his name and truth known amongst all men that they may be saved so there is no man that doth more fervently desire and shal more diligently endeavour to the uttermost of his abilities to bring men into the right way how they may come to the knowledge of God and of themselves wherein consists their eternall happinesse than my selfe And this I take to be not onely my duty but the duty indeed of all those that call upon the name of God in sincerity And I am most assured that no ingenuous man will misinterpret this my zeale or blame my love or condemne me that I wish the common salvation of mankind and that they may both know and constantly persevere in that faith that was once delivered to the Saints of old Jude vers 3. which all Christians are bound earnestly to contend for especially if they consider that in all this my care I seeke not my selfe or any private emolument by it but that men may live happily and comfortably in this world and be perennally blessed when mortality shall be swallowed up of life And this was the principall cause that made me so willing to seeke your acquaintance and gratifie your desire which was that I would come and conferre with you about points of Religion in controversie betweene the Church of Rome and us I confesse there were many thousands in the Kingdom fitter for that imployment and that might have given better satisfaction in those questions than my selfe yet because I heard you had been many moneths in prison and had earnestly wished to discourse with any of our religion and none came to you as you signified to Master Lieutenant from whom you received this answer that he never had any notice of any such thing before this time and understanding withall that you had a desire in particular to dispute with me it made me the more willing to imbrace the occasion and chiefly because there went a great fame of you to be a man both of candour learning and ingenuity Which worthy praise of yours shall never be impeached by me neither will any man endeavour in the least to diminish it as I hope if you shall stand to your resolution and solemne promise which was that if any man could prove unto you that the Protestant Church or the Church of England was a true Church that then you would come to our Church and be of our profession All which you did in the presence of the Lieutenant and many other Gentlemen then and there againe seriously protest Now I say if upon evident demonstration and infallible arguments it shall appeare to all men that the Church of England is a true Church and where salvation may be found if you stand to your promise you must renounce the Church of Rome and become a sonne of the Church of England a true Protestant and in so doing you shall bring glory to God comfort to your soule and have the praise of all men for your integrity and faithfulnesse in your
of the primitive Christians it is said of that noble Eunuch Acts 8. vers 27.28 to his eternall prayse that came to Jerusalem to worship that as hee returned sitting in his Chariot hee read Esaias the Prophet Without doubt if hee read him before he was a Christian he read him much more and more frequently after hee was a Christian and if hee read the Prophets before hee understood them it is very like that he was a more diligent Reader of them when he understood them and yet notwithstanding Mr. Montague this was no Church-man that I may speake in your dialect but a secular Lord the Treasurer of the Queene of Ethiopia It was his greatest honour that he was a reader of the holy Scripture and in the Church of Rome it is an infamy and hainous crime that is expiated with death for any secular men to reade the Prophecies and Scriptures or to have them in their houses What thinke you I pray Mr. Montague of this dealing of the Church of Rome towards her sonnes and children Is shee not a very cruell step-mother that thus murthereth her poore childrens soules and bodies that snatcheth the Paps and Breasts by which they should be nourished out of their mouthes and keepes away the Milke of the word from them It is said of the Bereans Act. 17. vers 11. to their everlasting honour that they were more noble than they which were at Thessalonica and wherefore were they more honorable because saith S. Luke they received the Word with all readiness searching the Scriptures dayly whether those things were so And this was a thing very laudable in them and left for our imitation and to be a Lesson for all men that they should examine whatsoever is taught them and by whomsoever by the holy Scripture which to do in the Church of Rome would be punished with all severity as you know very well Mr. Montague It was Timothies praise 2 Tim. 3. v. 15. That he knew the Scriptures from his child-hood and that in those tender yeares hee read the Word of God Here we have the example of a youth to his ever honour who was acquainted with the holy Scriptures and the very reading of them would be punished in old men in Italy or under the Popes Dominions What a desperate height of sacrilegious wickednesse is the Church of Rome now arrived to that dares against the command of God and against all justice and honesty take the Word of God and the holy Scriptures out of the hands of the people for whose cause principally they were writ For the Apostles writ most of their Epistles not to the Presbyters and Bishops but to the Churches in generall To the Churches of God to the sanctified in Jesus Christ and to all those that call upon the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ So Paul to the Corinthians the 1. Chap. 1. vers 2. 2 Cor. 2. vers 1. Galat. 1. vers 2. Ephes 1. vers 1 c. And that hee might cleerly demonstrate that hee writes as well to the people as to the Ministers and Pastors he discriminateth and distinguisheth them Phil. 1. v. 1. Paul and Timothy servants of Jesus Christ to all the Saints in Jesus Christ which are at Philippi with the Bishops and Deanes And S. James addresseth his Epistle to the twelve Tribes that are scattered abroade Iames 1. vers 1. And S. Peter writes his first Epistle to the strangers scattered through Pontus Galatia Cappadâ—cia Asia and Bithynia vers 1. And his second Epistle is yet more generall To them that have obtained like pretious faith with us through the Righteousnesse of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ vers 1. What unjustice therefore is it Mr. Montague in the Church of Rome to take these Epistles out of the hands of Christians and Believers to whom they are sent and dedicated S. Iohn in his first Epistle and second Chap. saith that hee writes to Fathers to young men and to little children to this end to oblige and tie all people of what age quality or degree soever they be to reade his Epistle Hee writes his second to an honorable Lady who without doubt made no scruple to reade it in her Family But in the Church of Rome this is not permitted to the people to reade the holy Scriptures or to heare them read in the vulgar Tongue without eminent danger and severe punishment if it be known Although the Apostle in expresse formall words hath commanded that his Epistles should be read by all the people as we may see in his Letters to the Colossians Cha. 4. v. 16. and to the Thessalonians When yee have read this Epistle saith he cause that it be read also in Laodicea c. And in the first of Thess 5. vers 27. I charge you by the Lord saith the Apostle that this Epistle be read to all the holy Brethren But in the Church of Rome such a miserable and degenerating age we live in the holy Scriptures are snatcht and taken out of the hands of the people and impious Legends and scurrilous Pamphlets are put into their hands But to conclude this point S. John in 1 Revelation vers 3. Blessed are they saith S. John that reade and they that heare the words of this Prophesy and keepe those things which are written therein If the Spirit of God Mr. Mountague calls and pronounces those blessed that read the Booke of the Revelation that is the difficultest of all the Scriptures how much more blessed ought wee to thinke those that read the holy Gospells and all the Epistles of the holy Apostles and the other Scriptures which containe many things in them yea all things necessary to salvation very familiar and easy to be understood Therefore needs must that people bee unhappy yea cursed that are deprived not onely of so great felicity but of all true comfort By all this that I have now said to prove that the sacred Scriptures were not accidentally written but by command and that to be a rule of direction to all and that they are not darke and obscure and that the people ought to reade them and study them all which our great Prophet the Lord Jesus hath both taught and confirmed and his blessed Apostles after him whom he hath commanded us to hear saying He that heareth you heareth mee and he that despiseth you despiseth me and him that sent mee Luke 10. vers 16. It is very evident that the Church of Rome doth onely in word acknowledge Christ to bee the King Priest and Prophet of his Church but in workes overthrow all his offices and annihilate as much as in them lies the whole worke of our Redemption and the whole worship of God by bringing in a worship and service of their own which neither the King Priest and Prophet of his Church nor any of his blessed Apostles hath ever taught us But it wil yet more cleerly be elucidated by that that insueth when I shal manifestly prove that