brag_v of_o the_o excuse_v there_o make_v for_o it_o for_o first_o dr._n thorndike_n do_v sree_o confess_v the_o saint_n know_v nothing_o of_o our_o particular_a necessity_n unless_o god_n reveal_v they_o to_o they_o second_o he_o accuse_v invocation_n of_o saint_n of_o novelty_n as_o not_o be_v own_a and_o use_v by_o the_o church_n till_o a_o good_a while_n after_o constantine_n three_o he_o say_v the_o abuse_n have_v increase_v so_o far_o that_o the_o same_o thing_n be_v desire_v of_o they_o of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n especial_o and_o in_o the_o same_o term_n in_o which_o tâ—ey_n be_v desire_v of_o god_n even_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n four_o that_o the_o appearance_n of_o devotion_n to_o the_o mother_n be_v visible_o anâ—_n outward_o no_o less_o than_o to_o the_o son_n which_o be_v equal_a to_o that_o to_o god_n himself_o whence_o any_o mean_a logician_n may_v infer_v that_o the_o appearance_n of_o devotion_n to_o the_o mother_n be_v no_o less_o than_o that_o to_o god_n himself_o do_v not_o this_o huge_o excuse_v the_o romish_a invocation_n of_o saint_n from_o idolatry_n but_o you_o will_v say_v certain_o i_o be_o mistake_v in_o the_o place_n no_o no_o jam_fw-la not_o now_o come_v the_o excuse_n so_o that_o be_v there_o not_o a_o profession_n of_o that_o church_n extant_a contradict_v the_o proper_a sense_n of_o such_o prayer_n to_o the_o saint_n and_o force_v they_o that_o address_v they_o unless_o they_o will_v contradict_v themselves_o to_o abate_v their_o own_o meaning_n and_o to_o expound_v they_o to_o signify_v no_o more_o than_o the_o saint_n obtain_v that_o of_o god_n which_o they_o be_v desire_v to_o grant_v of_o themselves_o they_o can_v not_o be_v excuse_v of_o idolatry_n of_o which_o the_o brief_a sense_n be_v that_o unless_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o church_n contradict_v their_o practice_n which_o be_v idolatrous_a viz._n their_o profession_n of_o one_o god_n the_o giver_n of_o every_o good_a and_o perfect_a gift_n for_o i_o know_v no_o other_o public_a profession_n then_o that_o he_o can_v mean_v they_o can_v be_v excuse_v of_o idolatry_n as_o if_o profess_v thing_n repugnant_a to_o idolatry_n and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n commit_v it_o against_o their_o profession_n can_v save_v they_o from_o be_v idolater_n more_o than_o from_o be_v murtheret_n and_o adulterer_n because_o they_o profess_v the_o decalogue_n or_o as_o if_o there_o be_v a_o society_n of_o man_n that_o do_v in_o special_a manner_n profess_v civility_n and_o yet_o will_v call_v any_o one_o all_o the_o ill_a name_n imaginable_a may_v put_v it_o off_o by_o say_v these_o name_n and_o rail_n be_v indeed_o utter_o repugnant_a to_o our_o public_a profession_n if_o they_o be_v take_v in_o their_o proper_a sense_n and_o therefore_o you_o must_v interpret_v they_o in_o such_o a_o sense_n as_o be_v not_o repugnant_a to_o our_o know_a profession_n for_o we_o declare_v to_o all_o the_o world_n that_o we_o be_v civil_a gentleman_n and_o very_o much_o every_o 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to_o pronounce_v such_o a_o speech_n for_o my_o own_o part_n i_o can_v profess_v true_o and_o unfeigned_o and_o i_o think_v there_o be_v not_o any_o one_o but_o will_v believe_v i_o that_o know_v i_o or_o have_v read_v my_o write_n especial_o my_o mystery_n of_o godliness_n and_o my_o dialogue_n where_o draw_v the_o best_a and_o the_o most_o benign_a representation_n i_o can_v of_o providence_n and_o the_o affair_n of_o the_o world_n in_o all_o age_n as_o to_o religion_n i_o strain_v my_o little_a wit_n to_o the_o utmost_a to_o make_v the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o pagan_n look_v as_o tolerable_o and_o excusable_o as_o i_o can_v i_o say_v i_o profess_v unfeigned_o that_o i_o be_o not_o conscious_a to_o myself_o of_o any_o superstitious_a hurry_n or_o fright_v and_o over_o scrupulous_a fear_n of_o commit_v idolatry_n where_o none_o be_v to_o be_v commit_v that_o carry_v i_o into_o this_o judgement_n touch_v the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n nor_o can_v any_o thing_n possible_o tempt_v i_o to_o it_o it_o be_v so_o contrary_a to_o my_o nature_n to_o find_v any_o more_o fault_n in_o the_o world_n then_o needs_o must_v and_o i_o think_v any_o one_o will_v easy_o discern_v it_o be_v not_o any_o way_n for_o my_o interest_n to_o declare_v this_o fault_n i_o find_v if_o it_o be_v not_o true_a but_o it_o be_v pure_a and_o impartial_a reason_n and_o something_o better_o and_o high_o in_o my_o esteem_n than_o reason_n that_o do_v assure_v i_o of_o the_o â—ruth_n of_o what_o i_o do_v in_o this_o case_n thus_o pronounce_v against_o my_o own_o natural_a inclination_n and_o interest_n whence_o i_o be_o well_o assure_v that_o in_o all_o integrity_n of_o conscience_n other_o man_n have_v the_o fear_n of_o god_n before_o their_o eye_n may_v be_v also_o full_o persuade_v to_o these_o idolatry_n i_o charge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n with_o and_o consequent_o be_v necessary_o engage_v to_o quit_v her_o communion_n and_o separate_v from_o she_o now_o what_o protestant_n nay_o what_o christian_n will_v ever_o think_v or_o whisper_v within_o himself_o much_o less_o aver_v to_o all_o the_o world_n thar_z such_o a_o separation_n be_v schism_n before_o god_n or_o in_o foro_n divino_fw-la especial_o consider_v that_o the_o opinion_n and_o practice_n for_o which_o the_o party_n separate_v be_v not_o catholic_n but_o after-invention_n and_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n degenerate_v as_o dr_n thorndike_n himself_o can_v deny_v this_o instance_n i_o give_v at_o least_o in_o foro_n divino_fw-la certain_o will_v be_v no_o schism_n though_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v guilty_a of_o no_o idolatry_n and_o therefore_o i_o be_o sorry_a so_o venerable_a a_o person_n shall_v be_v so_o rash_a and_o precipitant_a in_o his_o censure_n against_o his_o fellow-protestants_a but_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n will_v my_o adversary_n say_v it_o be_v apparent_a not_o withstand_v
frame_v his_o frigid_a flaccid_a and_o insipid_a dissuasive_a which_o he_o will_v father_n upon_o i_o but_o upon_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n false_a boast_n of_o herself_o whereby_o to_o tempt_v we_o to_o her_o idolatry_n i_o put_v in_o their_o mouth_n what_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n say_v touch_v she_o in_o the_o apocalypse_n and_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n whereby_o be_v understand_v plain_o how_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n be_v with_o they_o and_o how_o when_o they_o make_v a_o specious_a show_n and_o boast_v of_o be_v one_o thing_n the_o spirit_n of_o god_n judge_n they_o the_o quite_o contrary_a but_o further_o he_o add_v that_o this_o exhortation_n of_o i_o be_v a_o ill-grounded_a and_o schismatical_a discourse_n dr._n thorndike_n himself_o be_v umpire_n in_o the_o case_n repl._n as_o for_o dr._n thorndike_n i_o shall_v consider_v he_o at_o tâ—e_v close_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n it_o be_v apparent_a that_o my_o exhortation_n be_v very_o well_o ground_v it_o be_v ground_v upon_o sound_n and_o clear_a reason_n and_o the_o holy_a scripture_n of_o god_n than_o which_o there_o be_v no_o â—uâ—eâ—_n ground_n in_o the_o world_n and_o certain_o no_o genuine_a son_n what_o ever_o the_o ingenuous_a son_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n may_v do_v will_v ever_o say_v that_o it_o be_v schismatical_a whenas_o the_o main_a end_n of_o it_o be_v to_o keep_v the_o member_n of_o our_o church_n â—rom_o make_v any_o schism_n or_o separation_n from_o we_o and_o from_o betake_v themselves_o to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n who_o have_v separate_v herself_o from_o the_o purity_n of_o the_o gospel_n but_o after_o this_o most_o inhumane_o and_o injurious_o he_o parallel_v this_o faithful_a and_o unexceptionable_a exhortation_n of_o i_o make_v to_o the_o people_n to_o keep_v they_o from_o the_o deceit_n and_o enticement_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o they_o may_v not_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o apostatise_v to_o she_o to_o the_o bitter_a and_o rebellious_a trumpeter_n of_o war_n in_o the_o late_a distemper_a time_n who_o loud_o out_o of_o the_o pulper_n thunder_v into_o the_o people_n ear_n curse_v you_o meroz_n yea_o curse_v you_o bitter_o etc._n etc._n and_o there_o be_v not_o want_v in_o this_o nation_n say_v he_o those_o who_o can_v find_v rome_n in_o england_n to_o make_v meroz_n of_o it_o when_o they_o please_v repl._n then_o they_o be_v those_o chief_o that_o be_v of_o your_o emissary_n gender_v and_o foment_v but_o it_o be_v well_o know_v to_o all_o the_o world_n that_o it_o have_v be_v precise_o and_o particular_o my_o care_n and_o labour_n to_o distinguish_v what_o be_v true_o antichristan_n from_o what_o be_v not_o that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n may_v be_v clear_v from_o such_o imputation_n and_o the_o saddle_n set_v on_o the_o right_a horse_n as_o you_o may_v see_v preface_n to_o my_o idea_n of_o antichristianism_n sect._n 8._o and_o in_o the_o two_o last_o chapter_n of_o synopsis_fw-la proâ—hetica_fw-la for_o my_o own_o part_n i_o dare_v say_v there_o be_v none_o that_o know_v i_o either_o personal_o or_o by_o my_o write_n that_o will_v not_o ready_o acknowledge_v that_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o remove_v from_o bitterness_n persecution_n tumult_n and_o rebellion_n than_o that_o spirit_n that_o i_o be_o of_o no_o can_v i_o in_o those_o very_a time_n of_o rebellion_n and_o tumult_n forbear_v to_o testify_v in_o public_a my_o disgust_n thereof_o in_o these_o mean_a rhyme_n but_o of_o sound_n and_o good_a sense_n immortality_n of_o the_o soul_n book_n 2._o cant._n 3._o stanz_n â—_o can_v war_n and_o jar_n and_o fierce_a contention_n swell_a hatred_n and_o consume_a envy_n spring_n fâ—om_n piety_n no_o it_o be_v opinion_n that_o make_v the_o rive_a heaven_n with_o trumpet_n ring_n and_o thunder_a engine_n mundrous_a ball_n out-sling_n and_o send_v man_n groan_a ghost_n to_o low_a shade_n of_o horrid_a hell_n this_o the_o wide_a world_n do_v bring_v to_o divastation_n make_v mankind_n to_o sade_n such_o direful_a thing_n do_v false_a religion_n per_v wade_v but_o true_a religion_n spring_v from_o god_n above_o be_v like_o her_o fountain_n full_a of_o charity_n embrace_v all_o thing_n with_o a_o tender_a love_n full_a of_o good_a will_n and_o meek_a expectance_n full_a of_o true_a justice_n and_o sure_a verity_n in_o heart_n and_o voice_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v not_o our_o tell_n you_o plain_o and_o apert_o according_a to_o truth_n and_o scripture_n what_o be_v heinous_o amiss_o in_o you_o that_o can_v be_v any_o prejudice_n to_o our_o own_o church_n but_o it_o be_v the_o excuse_v you_o and_o dissemble_v your_o great_a crime_n by_o extenuate_a term_n and_o your_o aggravate_v every_o little_a ceremony_n of_o we_o such_o as_o kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n and_o the_o like_a to_o make_v we_o odious_a to_o the_o ignorant_a people_n that_o make_v we_o suspect_v of_o romanism_n but_o this_o be_v one_o of_o your_o art_n among_o many_o other_o to_o make_v those_o that_o be_v the_o most_o hearty_a well-willer_n to_o the_o church_n of_o england_n the_o most_o suspect_v by_o they_o but_o truth_n and_o innocency_n bid_v defiance_n to_o all_o your_o device_n but_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n where_o be_v the_o charge_n make_v good_a of_o be_v so_o little_o concern_v whether_o i_o speak_v true_a or_o false_a in_o this_o exhortation_n of_o i_o why_o at_o last_o it_o be_v this_o that_o i_o so_o peremptory_o aver_v that_o no_o protestant_n allow_v they_o a_o possibility_n of_o salvation_n but_o only_o in_o case_n of_o such_o a_o repentance_n as_o imply_v a_o absolute_a renunctation_n of_o their_o religion_n and_o its_o idolatrous_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n by_o disowning_n of_o and_o dismember_n themselves_o from_o the_o roman_a church_n which_o say_v he_o will_v scarce_o appear_v pardonable_a in_o the_o eye_n of_o his_o fellow_n doctor_n repl._n this_o be_v a_o charge_n found_v upon_o the_o eight_o paragraph_n of_o this_o ten_o chapter_n i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o peruse_v the_o paragraph_n and_o compare_v it_o with_o his_o charge_n where_o after_o disow_a and_o dismember_n themselves_o from_o the_o roman_a church_n he_o omit_v a_o special_a â—lause_n which_o immediate_o follow_v viz._n as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v in_o their_o power_n so_o to_o do_v which_o be_v quite_o another_o tâ—ing_n from_o actual_o renounce_v of_o their_o church_n while_o they_o have_v not_o the_o opportunity_n of_o discover_v her_o gross_a error_n but_o that_o their_o general_a repentance_n be_v so_o hearty_a and_o unfeigned_a that_o it_o will_v descend_v to_o this_o particular_a upon_o the_o detection_n to_o they_o of_o the_o foul_a error_n of_o that_o church_n and_o this_o i_o hope_v will_v not_o only_o be_v pardonable_a but_o acceptable_a to_o those_o eminent_a man_n of_o our_o church_n archbishop_n laud_n bishop_n abbot_n and_o the_o rest_n he_o name_v out_o of_o bishop_n laud_n relation_n sect._n 35._o who_o examine_v to_o the_o bottom_n will_v appear_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n with_o myself_o and_o for_o that_o of_o mr._n hooker_n in_o his_o discourse_n of_o justification_n sect._n 17._o where_o he_o saâ—s_v for_o my_o part_n i_o dare_v not_o deny_v possibility_n of_o their_o salvation_n who_o have_v be_v the_o chief_a instrument_n of_o we_o which_o quotation_n which_o my_o adversary_n so_o much_o glory_n in_o it_o be_v evident_a be_v nâ—thing_v at_o all_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o as_o much_o as_o he_o speak_v not_o here_o of_o those_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n since_o the_o reformation_n but_o beâ—ore_o when_o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n be_v the_o woman_n in_o the_o wilderness_n as_o be_v manifest_a both_o from_o the_o sentence_n itself_o quote_v and_o the_o context_n but_o if_o mr._n hooker_n authority_n be_v of_o any_o weight_n with_o you_o do_v but_o look_v into_o the_o forego_n section_n and_o he_o will_v tell_v you_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v play_v the_o harlot_n worse_o than_o ever_o 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