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A78034 VindiciƦ veritatis: truth vindicated against calumny. In a briefe answer to Dr. Bastwicks two late books, entituled, Independency not Gods ordinance, with the second part, styled the postscript, &c. / By Henry Burton, one of his quondam-fellow-sufferers. Burton, Henry, 1578-1648. 1645 (1645) Wing B6177; Thomason E302_13; ESTC R200279 28,751 40

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