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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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etc._n though_o we_o deny_v their_o office_n to_o have_v the_o same_o extent_n that_o the_o apostle_n have_v argu._n 3_o his_o three_o argument_n be_v draw_v ab_fw-la absurdo_fw-la vind._n revind_n p._n 35._o there_o be_v five_o absurdity_n which_o he_o lay_v at_o our_o door_n against_o which_o we_o have_v sufficient_o justify_v ourselves_o in_o the_o body_n of_o our_o discourse_n out_o of_o the_o womb_n of_o two_o principle_n he_o midwife_n forth_o these_o pr._n 1._o that_o the_o authority_n of_o he_o who_o preach_v be_v that_o which_o make_v the_o action_n of_o the_o hearer_n duty_n pr._n 2._o that_o a_o act_n of_o office_n can_v be_v do_v by_o he_o who_o be_v no_o officer_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 35._o ans_fw-fr the_o latter_a of_o these_o be_v full_o speak_v to_o preacher_n send_v pag._n 278._o 279._o 280._o and_o in_o the_o same_o book_n we_o have_v large_o prove_v this_o principle_n that_o many_o gift_a man_n who_o be_v not_o in_o office_n have_v authority_n or_o a_o command_n 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correlate_n of_o the_o pastoral_n office_n ib._n 3._o he_o say_v of_o a_o excomunicate_a person_n that_o while_o he_o repent_v not_o he_o be_v to_o be_v look_v upon_o after_o a_o sort_n as_o a_o unbaptised_a person_n or_o as_o a_o heathen_a yet_o when_o he_o do_v repent_v he_o need_v no_o new_a baptism_n forasmuch_o as_o god_n be_v please_v to_o impute_v to_o he_o his_o former_a baptism_n pa._n 27._o 4._o he_o say_v that_o the_o difference_n between_o apostolical_a and_o pastoral_a power_n lie_v not_o in_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o relation_n pa._n 36._o 5._o he_o say_v vzzah_n be_v punish_v not_o principal_o at_o least_o not_o sole_o because_o he_o do_v touch_v the_o ark_n with_o his_o head_n but_o because_o he_o do_v not_o bear_v it_o upon_o his_o shoulder_n pag._n 99_o which_o be_v against_o 1_o chron._n 13._o 10._o 6._o he_o be_v not_o positive_a in_o it_o but_o give_v it_o as_o his_o opinion_n that_o apostle_n have_v not_o their_o commission_n as_o apostle_n till_o mat._n 28._o pag._n 105_o 106._o 2._o self-contradicting_a passage_n 1._o that_o a_o man_n be_v make_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n be_v none_o of_o our_o assertion_n pag._n 23._o 1._o what_o a_o monstrous_a paradox_n be_v this_o baptism_n make_v not_o a_o man_n to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o church_n p._n 28._o in_o scripture_n there_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n p._n 25._o 2._o either_o a_o minister_n eject_v a_o man_n just_o out_o of_o his_o own_o church_n eject_v he_o out_o of_o all_o other_o church_n or_o he_o be_v juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o other_o church_n and_o so_o he_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n of_o be_v receive_v into_o other_o church_n which_o what_o horrid_a confusion_n it_o will_v introduce_v etc._n etc._n pag._n 24._o 2._o it_o may_v be_v say_v that_o a_o excomunicate_a person_n ordinary_o be_v a_o member_n a_o church-member_n though_o disease_v p._n 26_o 3._o if_o a_o religious_a general_n in_o speak_v to_o his_o army_n principal_o aim_v at_o the_o salvation_n of_o their_o soul_n yet_o this_o be_v not_o preach_v though_o his_o end_n in_o speak_v be_v their_o salvation_n pag._n 41._o 3._o speak_v of_o paul_n he_o say_v the_o end_n of_o the_o actor_n or_o speaker_n be_v pure_o &_o sole_o the_o salvation_n of_o their_o soul_n &_o so_o it_o be_v tru_o and_o may_v proper_o be_v call_v preach_v p._n 41_o 42._o 4._o the_o less_o be_v call_v of_o the_o great_a pag._n 138._o we_o never_o find_v ordination_n practise_v either_o in_o the_o old_a or_o new_a testament_n but_o by_o person_n in_o authority_n towards_o their_o inferior_n pag._n 160._o 4._o he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o any_o prejudice_n to_o the_o extraordinarines_n of_o timothy_n office_n that_o it_o be_v confer_v by_o ordinary_a officer_n pag._n 149._o what_o more_o ordinary_a both_o in_o state_n and_o church_n then_o for_o a_o person_n to_o have_v a_o office_n convey_v to_o he_o viz._n ministerial_o by_o such_o as_o be_v inferior_a to_o he_o p._n 149._o 3_o repugnancy_n to_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n and_o dr._n collings_n 1._o every_o minister_n by_o excommunication_n eject_v member_n out_o of_o the_o church_n catholic_n visi_fw-la ble_n jus._n divin_n min._n pag._n 139._o 1._o it_o may_v be_v say_v a_o excommunicate_a person_n ordinary_o be_v a_o member_n a_o churchmember_v though_o disease_v mr_n pool_n pag._n 26._o 2._o they_o i._n e._n apostle_n and_o evangilist_n be_v virtual_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n they_o differ_v nothing_o from_o they_o but_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o power_n dr._n collings_n pag._n 105_o 2._o the_o difference_n between_o apostolical_a and_o pastoral_a power_n lie_v not_o in_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o relation_n mr._n pool_n p._n 36._o  _fw-fr and_n he_o make_v pastor_n power_n as_o extensive_a as_o as_o he_o suppose_v their_o relation_n to_o be_v pag._n 6._o question_n discuss_v pr._n s._n note_v the_o preacher_n send_v vind._n note_v the_o precede_a treatise_n the_o number_n direct_v to_o the_o page_n in_o either_o of_o the_o treatise_n where_o the_o question_n be_v resolve_v 1._o whether_o there_o be_v a_o universal_a political_a visible_a church_n or_o whether_o there_o be_v a_o church_n of_o church_n a_o visible_a catholic_n church_n form_v unto_o fellowshi●p_n in_o new_a testament_n ordinance_n negate_fw-la epist_n to_o pr._n s._n p._n 4._o 5._o vind._n of_o epist_n 2._o whether_o visible_a saint_n be_v the_o only_a fit_a matter_n for_o a_o visible_a church_n aff._n epist._n to_o pr._n s._n p._n 6._o 3._o who_o be_v visible_a saint_n epist_n to_o pr._n s._n p._n 7._o 4._o whether_o a_o union_n by_o covenant_n consent_n or_o agreement_n be_v necessary_a unto_o memberhood_n in_o a_o visible_a church_n aff._n epist_n to_o pr._n s._n pag._n 9_o 5._o who_o may_v be_v style_v minister_n pr._n s._n pag._n 2_o vind._n p._n 1._o 6._o whether_o office_n be_v a_o relation_n to_o the_o work_n and_o employment_n of_o the_o ministry_n as_o be_v correlate_n or_o to_o a_o church_n preach_v sent._n 4._o vindicat._n pag._n 2._o etc._n etc._n 7._o whether_o office_n be_v a_o relation_n secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la or_o secundum_fw-la dici_fw-la vindicat._n p._n 4._o 5._o 8._o whether_o officer_n stand_v in_o relation_n as_o officer_n to_o a_o universal_a church_n neg._n whether_o to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o aff_n whether_o to_o heathen_n and_o such_o as_o be_v of_o no_o church_n neg._n pre._n s._n 288._o vind._n p._n 12_o 13._o etc._n etc._n p._n 86._o etc._n etc._n 9_o what_o be_v office_n pr._n s._n 14._o 10_o whether_o there_o be_v a_o difference_n between_o preach_v ex_fw-la officio_fw-la and_o ex_fw-la dono_n aff_n preach_v s._n 18._o 11._o whether_o unbeliever_n may_v come_v into_o churchm●●●ings_n to_o hear_v the_o word_n aff._n pr._n s._n 18._o 12._o what_o be_v preach_v pr._n s._n 20._o 13._o whether_o it_o be_v preach_v when_o in_o private_a aff_n pr._n 8._o 21._o 14._o whether_o it_o be_v preach_v when_o it_o be_v not_o in_o a_o sacred_a assembly_n aff._n pr._n s._n p._n 22_o 23._o 15._o what_o be_v authoritative_a preach_n preach_v s._n 25._o to_o 28._o 16._o whether_o person_n who_o have_v preach_v gift_n and_o grace_n may_v ordinary_o exercise_v those_o gift_n in_o public_a assembly_n though_o they_o be_v not_o ordain_v officer_n affirm_v preach_v s._n 29._o to_o 216._o vind._n pag._n 21._o etc._n etc._n 125._o etc._n etc._n 17._o whether_o election_n ought_v to_o precede_v ordination_n aff._n pr._n s._n 30._o 18._o what_o call_n be_v sufficient_a to_o the_o exercise_n of_o preach_v gift_n pr._n s._n 37._o vind._n 26._o 19_o whether_o from_o gift_a man_n preach_v it_o will_v follow_v that_o gift_a woman_n may_v preach_v or_o that_o man_n gift_v for_o any_o civil_a or_o military_a employment_n may_v act_n therein_o without_o any_o further_o call_v neg._n pr._n s._n 38_o 39_o vind._n 29._o 20._o whether_o it_o belong_v to_o the_o sphere_n place_n and_o call_n of_o gift_a man_n to_o preach_v affirm_v preach_v s._n 40._o 21._o whether_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n and_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n be_v distinguish_v and_o how_o pr._n s._n 69._o 70._o vind._n 66._o to_o 71._o 22._o whether_o teach_v and_o preach_v be_v in_o scripture_n phrase_n the_o same_o aff._n p._n 79._o pr._n s._n 23._o whether_o necessity_n be_v a_o good_a plea_n against_o the_o argument_n from_o act_v 8_o and_o whether_o the_o suppose_a necessity_n make_v officer_n or_o no_o pr._n s._n 86._o to_o 88_o vind._n 33_o 34_o 35._o 141._o 24._o whether_o the_o prophesy_a 1_o corin._n 14._o be_v a_o gift_n or_o a_o office_n preach_v sent._n 90._o vind._n 37._o 145._o whether_o it_o be_v a_o gift_n still_o continue_v aff._n p._n s._n 96._o vindicat._n p._n 41._o 148._o whether_o those_o prophet_n speak_v by_o extraordinary_a revelation_n neg._n preach_v s._n 104_o 105._o vind._n 46_o 151_o 152_o 153._o 25._o what_o be_v not_o and_o what_o be_v the_o mission_n or_o send_v rom._n 15._o preach_v sent._n 121_o to_o 138._o whether_o mission_n be_v ordination_n neg_fw-mi pr._n s._n 123._o vindic._n 63_o 64._o whether_o mission_n authorize_v or_o give_v a_o call_n to_o be_v a_o officer_n or_o to_o preach_v neg_fw-mi pr._n s._n 121._o vindicat_fw-la 156._o 159_o 160._o 26._o whether_o the_o example_n of_o saul_n offer_v sacrifice_n or_o vzzahs_n touch_v the_o ark_n do_v forbid_v gift_v man_n preach_v neg._n pr._n s._n 154_o 155._o vindicat_fw-la 164_o 165._o 27._o whether_o gift_a man_n preach_v do_v make_v officer_n void_a or_o un-necessary_a as_o to_o that_o act_n neg._n pr._n s._n 156._o vindicat_fw-la 55_o 56_o 57_o 28_o whether_o if_o gift_a man_n may_v preach_v will_v it_o follow_v that_o they_o may_v administer_v the_o sacrament_n neg._n pr._n s._n 165_o vind._n 169._o 170._o 29._o whether_o gift_a
be_v mediate_a command_n to_o we_o to_o watch_v and_o the_o watch_n be_v the_o same_o and_o so_o may_v the_o mission_n then_o and_o now_o be_v the_o same_o and_o if_o mat._n 28._o 19_o be_v not_o the_o same_o mission_n that_o other_o have_v now_o why_o do_v he_o allege_v that_o place_n to_o prove_v preach_v and_o baptise_v in_o the_o same_o commission_n vind._n pag._n 35._o vind._n revind_n pag._n 92._o 94._o and_o say_v that_o it_o do_v establish_v a_o constant_a office_n of_o the_o ministry_n to_o the_o world_n end_n and_o to_o be_v sure_o the_o apostle_n mission_n be_v not_o ordination_n as_o for_o a_o mission_n to_o the_o whole_a catholic_n church_n which_o he_o speak_v of_o p._n 117._o it_o be_v a_o unscriptural_a notion_n and_o no_o reason_n be_v produce_v to_o countenance_v it_o we_o shall_v but_o waste_v paper_n to_o multiply_v word_n about_o it_o and_o this_o be_v our_o answer_n to_o his_o five_o chapter_n chap._n v._n concern_v apollo_n and_o john_n baptism_n as_o also_o the_o text_n for_o election_n our_o argument_n from_o the_o preach_n of_o apollo_n be_v such_o as_o spiritual_a weapon_n be_v want_v to_o fight_v with_o it_o he_o be_v flee_v to_o the_o carnal_a weapon_n of_o bitter_a word_n and_o seek_v that_o way_n to_o prevail_v against_o it_o we_o have_v occasion_n to_o say_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n &_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n be_v distinguish_v each_o from_o other_o hereupon_o he_o say_v pag._n 118._o this_o argument_n as_o to_o the_o matter_n of_o it_o be_v pure_o popish_a and_o false_a as_o to_o the_o form_n of_o it_o and_o its_o usage_n in_o this_o case_n be_v primary_o socinian_n as_o to_o both_o false_a and_o no_o way_n conclusive_a and_o diverse_a argument_n he_o bring_v to_o prove_v johns_n baptism_n and_o christ_n to_o be_v the_o same_o we_o grant_v they_o be_v the_o same_o in_o kind_n they_o be_v not_o two_o baptism_n and_o so_o all_o his_o argument_n be_v needless_a and_o concern_v not_o we_o but_o that_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n be_v as_o we_o say_v distinguish_v from_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n be_v general_o assert_v by_o protestant_a writer_n and_o may_v appear_v argu._n 1_o from_o the_o defectiveness_n of_o that_o knowledge_n which_o reach_v no_o further_a than_o john_n baptism_n act._n 18._o 25._o it_o have_v be_v in_o vain_a to_o say_v he_o know_v only_a the_o baptism_n of_o john_n if_o there_o have_v be_v nothing_o more_o to_o be_v know_v beside_o what_o be_v in_o that_o baptism_n and_o his_o learning_n the_o way_n of_o god_n more_o perfect_o from_o aquila_n and_o priscilla_n ver_fw-la 26._o do_v intimate_v the_o imperfection_n of_o it_o now_o if_o any_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v know_v beside_o what_o belong_v to_o john_n baptism_n it_o must_v belong_v to_o christ_n baptism_n and_o so_o prove_v they_o to_o be_v distinguish_v argu._n 2._o from_o clear_a scripture_n luke_n 7._o for_o 28._o he_o that_o be_v least_o in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n be_v great_a than_o he_o i._n e._n then_o john_n baptist_n so_o mat._n 11._o ver_fw-la 11._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o e._n praeftantior_fw-la nempe_fw-la quoad_fw-la genus_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la quip_n quae_fw-la tum_fw-la erit_fw-la long_o illustrior_fw-la &_o jucundior_fw-la piscat_fw-la inloc_n how_o can_v the_o least_o in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n be_v great_a than_o john_n if_o his_o baptism_n be_v not_o difference_v from_o christ_n argu_n 3_o from_o the_o non-appointment_n either_o of_o ordination_n or_o of_o those_o officer_n which_o be_v to_o be_v ordain_v until_o after_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n it_o be_v impossible_a to_o know_v by_o john_n baptism_n that_o there_o shall_v be_v pastor_n and_o teacher_n or_o that_o they_o shall_v receive_v such_o a_o ordination_n the_o institution_n for_o these_o office_n do_v not_o come_v until_o afterward_o and_o be_v only_o to_o be_v find_v among_o the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o prove_v a_o difference_n between_o the_o baptism_n let_v any_o show_v a_o institution_n for_o these_o among_o any_o of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o john_n otherwise_o act._n 18_o ver_fw-la 25._o apollo_n preach_v when_o he_o know_v only_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n which_o do_v give_v no_o knowledge_n of_o ordination_n be_v a_o full_a proof_n that_o he_o do_v and_o other_o may_v preach_v without_o ordination_n dr._n collings_n vind._n revind_n p._n 117._o 118._o use_v these_o word_n bellarmine_n and_o other_o jesuit_n and_o papist_n say_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n and_o john_n be_v distinguish_v but_o i_o can_v tell_v that_o any_o protestant_n say_v so_o before_o our_o brethren_n and_o pag._n 121._o he_o add_v these_o word_n that_o our_o brother_n may_v be_v ashamed_a ever_o to_o bring_v this_o argument_n into_o the_o field_n again_o i_o must_v tell_v they_o that_o as_o the_o papist_n lay_v the_o foundation_n so_o the_o blasphemous_a socinian_n be_v the_o first_o i_o ever_o meet_v with_o who_o build_v upon_o it_o reader_n if_o the_o odious_a name_n of_o papist_n and_o socinian_n can_v raise_v such_o a_o dust_n as_o to_o blind_v thy_o eye_n thou_o will_v be_v in_o danger_n here_o to_o loose_v sight_n of_o the_o truth_n but_o that_o these_o charge_n be_v altogether_o groundless_a in_o the_o present_a case_n may_v appear_v 1._o because_o we_o do_v not_o distinguish_v they_o as_o papist_n do_v in_o the_o substance_n but_o only_o in_o the_o circumstance_n we_o do_v not_o say_v they_o be_v diverse_a kind_n of_o baptism_n but_o diverse_a in_o the_o manner_n of_o revelation_n and_o in_o this_o they_o who_o he_o cit_v against_o we_o be_v for_o we_o and_o chemnitius_n express_o treat_v of_o and_o assert_n the_o difference_n exam._n con._n trid._n can_v de_fw-fr bapt._n will_n dr._n collings_n say_v that_o nothing_o can_v be_v distinguish_v unless_o it_o be_v diversify_v in_o kind_n be_v not_o a_o man_n in_o a_o marry_a state_n distinguish_v from_o himself_o in_o a_o single_a state_n be_v not_o the_o new_a moon_n distinguish_v from_o the_o old_a yet_o the_o same_o moon_n sure_o as_o well_o may_v johns_n baptism_n be_v distinguish_v from_o christ_n 2._o because_o many_o both_o ancient_a and_o modern_a writer_n who_o be_v neither_o papist_n nor_o socinian_n have_v assert_v the_o baptism_n of_o john_n and_o christ_n to_o be_v distinguish_v yea_o some_o of_o they_o have_v go_v further_a than_o we_o in_o this_o matter_n cyprian_n who_o flourish_v about_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 250._o use_v these_o word_n 〈◊〉_d praeparabat_fw-la viam_fw-la domino_fw-la joannes_n lavando_fw-la exterius_fw-la corpora_fw-la ut_fw-la praecederet_fw-la exterius_fw-la lavacrum_fw-la secuturum_fw-la baptisma_fw-la in_fw-la quo_fw-la conferretur_fw-la animarum_fw-la ablutio_fw-la &_o peccatorum_fw-la remissio_fw-la praecessit_fw-la quod_fw-la er_fw-mi at_o ex_fw-la parte_fw-la ut_fw-la consummatio_fw-la sequeretur_fw-la cyprian_a de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o manifestatione_n trinitatis_fw-la page_n 436._o and_o of_o the_o same_o mind_n be_v tertullian_n and_o other_o of_o the_o ancient_n a●●o_o aretius_n say_v ministerium_fw-la suum_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la distinguit_fw-la a_o christi_fw-la baptismo_fw-la ipse_fw-la vos_fw-la baptizabit_fw-la in_o spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la &_o igni_fw-la primum_fw-la fatetur_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la munus_fw-la utrique_fw-la esse_fw-la common_a say_v in_o se_fw-la plurimum_fw-la differre_fw-la etc._n etc._n aret._n in_o m●●_n 3._o v._n 11._o pa●_n 133._o piscator_fw-la in_o mat._n 3._o v._n 11._o pag._n 70._o discrimen_fw-la tantum_fw-la est_fw-la in_o circumstantia_fw-la temporis_fw-la quia_fw-la johannes_n baptizavit_fw-la in_o christum_fw-la paulo_fw-la post_fw-la manifestandum_fw-la act_n 19_o 4._o at_o apostoli_fw-la illorumque_fw-la successores_fw-la baptizarunt_fw-la &_o baptizant_fw-la in_o christum_fw-la jam_fw-la manifestatum_fw-la spanhem_n du●_n evang._n par_fw-fr 3._o pag._n 72._o 73._o gi_v a_o distinction_n and_o then_o say_v applicatio_fw-la distinctionis_fw-la est_fw-la eandem_fw-la fuisse_fw-la baptismi_fw-la johannis_n substantiam_fw-la essentiam_fw-la significationem_fw-la efficatiam_fw-la quae_fw-la baptismi_fw-la christi_fw-la discrimen_fw-la reperiri_fw-la tantum_fw-la in_o circumstantiis_fw-la &_o accidentalibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d pag._n 73._o in_o circumstantis_fw-la temporis_fw-la quia_fw-la baptismus_fw-la johannis_n anterior_a in_o modo_fw-la significationis_fw-la quia_fw-la baptizabat_fw-la in_o christum_fw-la venturum_fw-la in_fw-la efficatia_fw-la spiritus_fw-la quae_fw-la christo_fw-la jam_fw-la plene_fw-la manifesto_fw-la major_n &_o aliis_fw-la id_fw-la genus_fw-la calvin_n in_o act._n 19_o 4._o our_o baptism_n at_o this_o day_n do_v not_o differ_v any_o thing_n from_o it_o i._n e._n from_o johns_n baptism_n save_v only_o that_o christ_n be_v already_o reveal_v and_o in_o his_o death_n and_o resurrection_n our_o salvation_n be_v make_v perfect_a keckerman_n s●st_n theol._n l._n 3._o pag._n 453._o johannes_n baptismus_fw-la quoad_fw-la substantiam_fw-la idem_fw-la fuit_fw-la cum_fw-la baptismo_fw-la christi_fw-la ●●iamsitempore_o aut_fw-la aliis_fw-la quibusdam_fw-la circumstantiis_fw-la fuerit_fw-la ●iversus_fw-la to_o the_o same_o purpose_n speak_v vrsin_n catech_n
visible_a at_o least_o who_o be_v add_v to_o the_o church_n therefore_o they_o stand_v in_o a_o visible_a relation_n to_o christ_n in_o order_n before_o addition_n to_o the_o church_n for_o this_o see_v more_o in_o our_o epistle_n to_o our_o former_a book_n 2._o his_o minor_a be_v untrue_a for_o multitude_n even_o among_o we_o be_v baptize_v and_o yet_o do_v not_o visible_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n but_o to_o satan_n ergo_fw-la baptism_n do_v not_o make_v visible_o to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n again_o a_o man_n must_v stand_v in_o a_o visible_a relation_n to_o christ_n before_o baptism_n math._n 28._o 19_o they_o must_v first_o be_v disciple_n and_o then_o baptize_v and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o baptism_n but_o some_o thing_n antecedaneous_a to_o it_o that_o make_v visible_o to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ._n as_o to_o rom._n 6._o 3._o and_o gal._n 3._o 27._o they_o may_v show_v that_o believer_n be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n be_v solemn_o engage_v to_o profess_v and_o conform_v themselves_o unto_o he_o and_o that_o in_o his_o death_n but_o they_o do_v not_o prove_v that_o man_n can_v visible_o put_v on_o christ_n in_o his_o death_n or_o that_o they_o can_v visible_o be_v in_o christ_n without_o baptism_n and_o therefore_o they_o do_v not_o evidence_n that_o baptise_v be_v that_o act_n in_o or_o by_o which_o they_o be_v so_o much_o as_o visible_o make_v to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n our_o answer_n to_o this_o objection_n do_v also_o answer_v his_o next_o argument_n we_o say_v man_n must_v visible_o stand_v in_o a_o covenant_n relation_n before_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n or_o unto_o baptism_n for_o visible_a believe_v or_o a_o profession_n of_o faith_n be_v pre-required_n in_o those_o that_o be_v adulti_fw-la unto_o baptism_n mark_n 16._o 16._o act_n 8._o v._o 12._o 36_o 37._o and_o therefore_o baptism_n neither_o make_v a_o man_n to_o stand_v visible_o in_o relation_n to_o the_o covenant_n or_o to_o the_o church_n it_o be_v be_v aseal_a of_o the_o covenant_n impli_v a_o precedent_a consederation_n or_o presuppose_v a_o man_n be_v in_o covenant_n as_o be_v but_o a_o ratification_n or_o confirmation_n of_o a_o covenant_n already_o make_v we_o demand_v whether_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v not_o as_o well_o a_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n as_o baptism_n and_o whether_o that_o make_v a_o man_n stand_v in_o relation_n to_o the_o covenant_n and_o he_o be_v in_o covenant_n as_o often_o as_o he_o partake_v thereof_o and_o out_o when_o he_o do_v it_o not_o if_o otherwise_o than_o it_o be_v no_o contradiction_n that_o the_o application_n of_o such_o a_o seal_n shall_v not_o make_v to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o the_o covenant_n and_o sure_o they_o must_v stand_v in_o a_o visible_a relation_n to_o the_o covenant_n before_o a_o partake_n of_o the_o supper_n and_o than_o something_o else_o must_v make_v to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o the_o covenant_n to_o his_o last_o argument_n pag._n 29._o we_o reply_v it_o be_v not_o that_o which_o give_v the_o capacity_n but_o that_o which_o give_v the_o right_a to_o church-priveledges_a that_o make_v a_o man_n stand_v in_o relation_n to_o a_o church_n nei_fw-la she_o do_v baptism_n make_v a_o man_n capable_a of_o church-priviledge_n no_o not_o of_o the_o supper_n which_o he_o mention_n for_o some_o infant_n be_v baptise_a and_o excommunicate_a person_n also_o and_o yet_o be_v uncapable_a of_o that_o church-priviledge_n nay_o the_o presbyterian_o will_v not_o admit_v to_o the_o supper_n without_o examination_n and_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n plead_v against_o admit_v the_o ignorant_a or_o scandalous_a to_o the_o supper_n vind._n presb._n govern._n pag._n 56._o etc._n etc._n by_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o though_o they_o donot_v account_v unbaptise_v person_n capable_a of_o the_o supper_n yet_o they_o do_v not_o judge_v baptism_n enough_o to_o capacitate_v for_o the_o supper_n for_o than_o they_o must_v deny_v it_o to_o none_o that_o be_v baptize_v his_o argument_n thus_o fail_v his_o conclusion_n from_o they_o come_v to_o nothing_o we_o deny_v that_o 1_o corin._n 12._o 28._o or_o eph._n 4._o do_v prove_v a_o minister_n relation_n as_o a_o officer_n to_o a_o catholic_n visible_a church_n if_o such_o a_o church_n be_v intend_v there_o for_o it_o may_v proper_o be_v say_v there_o be_v set_v in_o the_o commonwealth_n justice_n constables_z etc._n etc._n yet_o they_o be_v limit_v in_o their_o office_n to_o a_o particular_a county_n or_o parish_n etc._n etc._n and_o it_o be_v not_o improper_a to_o say_v god_n have_v give_v to_o or_o set_v in_o the_o church_n viz._n this_o and_o that_o church_n apostles_n evangelist_n etc._n etc._n object_n 3._o that_o imply_v that_o its_o one_o political_a body_n wherein_o they_o be_v set_v etc._n etc._n mr._n poole_n pag._n 30._o answ_n if_o there_o be_v a_o catholic_a church_n and_o that_o which_o be_v not_o grant_v a_o political_a body_n to_o as_o a_o commonwealth_n be_v yet_o it_o be_v be_v say_v god_n have_v give_v to_o or_o set_v in_o the_o church_n apostles_n evangelist_n etc._n etc._n will_v no_o more_o prove_v that_o they_o be_v officer_n to_o that_o whole_a political_a universal_a church_n so_o much_o as_o in_o actu_fw-la primo_fw-la then_o it_o be_v be_v say_v there_o be_v set_v in_o the_o commonwealth_n justice_n constables_z etc._n etc._n will_v prove_v that_o they_o be_v justice_n or_o constable_n to_o the_o whole_a commonwealth_n much_o less_o can_v it_o be_v a_o proof_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n where_o evidence_n be_v want_v for_o a_o political_a universal_a church_n ob._n 2._o the_o case_n whole_o differ_v for_o justice_n constables_z etc._n etc._n have_v limit_v commission_n etc._n etc._n mr._n pool_n pag._n 30._o answ_n so_o be_v minister_n limit_v in_o their_o office_n and_o confine_v to_o their_o particular_a church_n as_o we_o have_v prove_v and_o therefore_o this_o make_v no_o difference_n in_o the_o case_n the_o case_n of_o the_o empire_n we_o speak_v to_o before_o the_o prince_n do_v not_o govern_v in_o common_a but_o every_o one_o be_v distinct_a in_o law_n and_o custom_n object_n 3._o it_o be_v not_o bare_o the_o phrase_n we_o rest_v upon_o but_o the_o sense_n etc._n etc._n apostle_n be_v so_o set_v in_o the_o church_n that_o they_o be_v also_o set_v over_o the_o church_n so_o be_v not_o justice_n they_o be_v in_o not_o over_o the_o commonwealth_n etc._n etc._n mr._n poole_n pag._n 30._o answ_n this_o 1_o cor._n 12._o 28._o be_v the_o main_a text_n urge_v for_o a_o universal_a origanical_a church_n and_o yet_o reader_n thou_o may_v est_fw-la see_v when_o it_o come_v to_o they_o be_v constrain_v to_o borrow_v help_n from_o other_o text_n to_o shore_n up_o their_o argument_n we_o grant_v that_o the_o apostle_n be_v set_v not_o only_o in_o but_o over_o all_o church_n but_o that_o this_o be_v the_o sense_n and_o explication_n of_o the_o phrase_n which_o the_o apostle_n use_v or_o the_o intendment_n of_o this_o text_n so_o as_o the_o apostle_n shall_v mean_v that_o god_n have_v set_v over_o the_o church_n apostles_n when_o he_o only_o say_v god_n have_v set_v in_o the_o church_n apostles_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v not_o nor_o ever_o can_v be_v prove_v and_o it_o be_v very_o observable_a that_o those_o phrase_n may_v be_v use_v 1_o cor._n 12._o 28._o and_o ephes_n 4._o 11_o 12._o the_o two_o place_n chief_o allege_v for_o a_o general_a visible_a orginical_a church_n though_o those_o text_n shall_v not_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o visible_a church_n at_o all_o for_o apostle_n evangelist_n pastor_n and_o teacher_n be_v set_v in_o and_o give_v for_o the_o edify_n of_o the_o mystical_a body_n of_o christ_n though_o they_o be_v not_o officer_n to_o it_o or_o set_v over_o it_o and_o a_o poor_a argument_n be_v it_o that_o have_v no_o better_a ground_n to_o stand_v upon_o this_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v pag._n 31._o that_o it_o be_v that_o body_n into_o which_o we_o be_v baptise_a both_o jew_n and_o gentile_n and_o one_o whole_a body_n etc._n etc._n for_o all_o this_o may_v be_v predicate_v of_o the_o mystical_a church_n or_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o if_o the_o visible_a church_n or_o body_n be_v intend_v the_o church_n of_o corinth_n and_o a_o pari_fw-la all_o other_o true_a church_n be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n 1_o cor._n 12._o 27._o now_o you_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o very_a next_o verse_n be_v add_v and_o he_o have_v set_v some_o in_o the_o church_n first_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n see_v this_o immediate_o follow_v it_o need_v not_o seem_v strange_a that_o the_o meaning_n shall_v be_v this_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o corinth_n be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o god_n have_v set_v in_o this_o church_n or_o body_n first_o apostle_n etc._n
etc._n the_o apostle_n be_v set_v in_o corinth_n though_o not_o limit_v or_o confine_v to_o that_o church_n all_o the_o strength_n of_o their_o argument_n from_o 1_o cor._n 12._o 28._o depend_v upon_o the_o apostle_n speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n have_v it_o be_v say_v god_n have_v set_v in_o the_o churches_n etc._n etc._n there_o can_v have_v be_v no_o shadow_n of_o a_o argument_n hence_o for_o their_o be_v officer_n to_o a_o universal_a church_n and_o see_v in_o the_o same_o chapter_n ver_fw-la 12._o 14._o 17._o etc._n etc._n he_o speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o body_n the_o body_n and_o the_o whole_a body_n and_o yet_o all_o natural_a body_n do_v not_o make_v one_o body_n and_o ver_fw-la 18._o god_n set_v the_o member_n in_o the_o body_n etc._n etc._n yet_o there_o be_v no_o catholic_n body_n how_o can_v his_o speak_n in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n for_o 28._o and_o that_o in_o the_o application_n of_o the_o same_o similitude_n prove_v a_o catholic_n church_n make_v up_o of_o all_o church_n to_o evidence_n that_o the_o sin_n of_o a_o people_n may_v nullify_v the_o office_n of_o a_o minister_n which_o they_o deny_v jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 146_o we_o ask_v whether_o if_o they_o murder_v he_o will_v not_o this_o nullify_v his_o office_n and_o if_o so_o why_o may_v not_o their_o sin_n other_o way_n make_v void_a the_o office_n also_o object_n mr._n poole_n say_v we_o confound_v the_o nullify_n of_o the_o office_n and_o the_o hinder_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o 2._o he_o demand_v whether_o this_o hold_n of_o the_o apostle_n or_o no_o whether_o if_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v confine_v to_o one_o congregation_n and_o that_o prove_v heretical_a and_o vote_v down_o the_o apostle_n will_v this_o make_v their_o office_n null_n or_o no_o he_o say_v this_o follow_v upon_o our_o principle_n for_o the_o church_n the_o correlate_n cease_v they_o must_v needs_o cease_v also_o &_o ejusdem_fw-la est_fw-la instituere_fw-la &_o destituere_fw-la and_o we_o allow_v the_o institution_n and_o constitution_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o people_n in_o the_o same_o page_n he_o tell_v the_o world_n that_o we_o say_v the_o apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n by_o the_o church_n allege_v act_v 1_o he_o add_v that_o this_o doctrine_n render_v it_o in_o the_o power_n of_o man_n lust_n and_o humour_n to_o nullify_v the_o promise_n of_o christ_n &_o the_o authority_n end_n and_o use_v of_o christ_n ambassador_n for_o now_o there_o be_v none_o but_o ordinary_a minister_n and_o he_o suppose_v but_o twenty_o congregation_n in_o the_o world_n and_o each_o of_o these_o may_v resolve_v several_o to_o eject_v their_o minister_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v the_o sum_n of_o what_o he_o express_v in_o many_o word_n mr._n poole_n pag._n 32._o 33._o ans_fw-fr 1._o we_o have_v not_o confound_v but_o clear_o distinguish_v between_o nullify_a the_o office_n and_o hinder_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o as_o he_o that_o shall_v impartial_o read_v our_o book_n may_v see_v 2._o the_o apostle_n be_v extraordinary_a officer_n our_o question_n be_v only_o about_o ordinary_a officer_n the_o apostle_n be_v neither_o of_o man_n nor_o by_o man_n but_o be_v make_v by_o a_o extraordinary_a call_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o it_o do_v belong_v only_o to_o christ_n to_o null_n their_o office_n because_o ejusdem_fw-la est_fw-la instituere_fw-la &_o destituere_fw-la but_o we_o can_v but_o complain_v that_o mr._n poole_n have_v here_o offer_v abundance_n of_o wrong_n to_o we_o in_o report_v to_o the_o world_n that_o we_o say_v apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n by_o the_o church_n allege_v act._n 1._o and_o not_o content_v himself_o with_o sayit_n once_o he_o come_v over_o with_o it_o again_o towards_o the_o end_n of_o pag._n 32._o of_o his_o book_n whereas_o we_o have_v express_v the_o contrary_a and_o that_o in_o express_a term_n in_o speak_v to_o act_v 1._o which_o he_o say_v we_o allege_v for_o it_o let_v any_o one_o read_v our_o book_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 268._o where_o we_o use_v these_o word_n this_o be_v but_o half_a a_o election_n and_o that_o be_v the_o reason_n why_o it_o do_v not_o constitute_v mathias_n a_o apostle_n as_o appear_v because_o the_o choose_n of_o the_o one_o which_o be_v by_o god_n be_v the_o constitute_v act_n act_n 1._o 24._o etc._n etc._n by_o which_o any_o one_o may_v see_v that_o we_o deny_v the_o apostle_n to_o be_v constitute_v by_o the_o church_n and_o assert_v it_o to_o be_v by_o god_n and_o therefore_o he_o have_v do_v we_o much_o injury_n in_o this_o report_n 3._o suppose_v a_o church_n murther_v its_o officer_n either_o he_o must_v say_v that_o they_o be_v officer_n after_o they_o be_v dead_a which_o be_v absurd_a or_o else_o he_o must_v grant_v that_o the_o sin_n of_o a_o people_n may_v nullify_v the_o office_n of_o a_o minister_n which_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n deny_v 4._o no_o supposition_n may_v be_v allow_v which_o impli_v a_o contradiction_n to_o any_o divine_a promise_n for_o god_n be_v faithful_a and_o therefore_o will_v restrain_v from_o every_o act_n that_o will_v render_v any_o promise_n void_a some_o supposition_n may_v be_v admit_v of_o but_o not_o such_o as_o be_v against_o promise_n otherwise_o we_o may_v answer_v he_o with_o a_o other_o himself_o suppose_v p._n 32._o that_o the_o catholic_a church_n may_v be_v confine_v to_o one_o congregation_n if_o the_o elder_n possible_o but_o two_o or_o three_o shall_v excommunicate_v that_o whole_a church_n they_o shall_v by_o this_o juridical_a act_n how_o un_fw-we just_a soever_o nullify_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o the_o church_n mat._n 16._o 18._o as_o much_o as_o by_o his_o supposition_n the_o people_n shall_v nullify_v the_o promise_n about_o officer_n in_o such_o a_o case_n two_o or_o three_o elder_n can_v be_v prove_v to_o be_v the_o universal_a church_n and_o officer_n to_o it_o also_o and_o if_o there_o be_v not_o a_o church_n &_o officer_n set_v in_o it_o either_o the_o promise_n about_o officer_n or_o the_o church_n must_v fail_v if_o supposition_n against_o promise_n be_v allow_v and_o in_o what_o a_o sad_a condition_n than_o will_v the_o church_n be_v in_o for_o there_o will_v be_v none_o to_o appeal_v to_o and_o thus_o we_o may_v turn_v his_o word_n pag._n 34_o 35._o upon_o himself_o or_o we_o may_v suppose_v that_o persecutor_n be_v most_o of_o the_o world_n may_v murder_v that_o one_o congregation_n which_o he_o improper_o call_v the_o catholic_a church_n be_v but_o few_o its_o true_a the_o act_n will_v differ_v one_o be_v a_o act_n of_o horrid_a violence_n the_o other_o a_o juridical_a act_n but_o both_o be_v equal_o possible_a and_o so_o a_o supposition_n may_v be_v take_v from_o one_o as_o well_o as_o from_o the_o other_o and_o therefore_o he_o can_v get_v nothing_o from_o such_o supposal_n the_o monstrous_a opinion_n follow_v upon_o his_o own_o principle_n suppose_v but_o twenty_o minister_n in_o the_o world_n who_o only_o have_v power_n according_a to_o he_o to_o ordain_v and_o they_o through_o treachery_n and_o frowardness_n shall_v refuse_v to_o put_v forth_o their_o power_n for_o a_o succession_n they_o die_v and_o so_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n be_v nullify_v neither_o do_v his_o answer_n to_o the_o objection_n pag._n 33._o 34._o take_v off_o this_o for_o here_o the_o case_n be_v not_o whole_o different_a here_o be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o horrid_a violence_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v as_o great_a a_o inconvenience_n to_o assert_v that_o jesus_n christ_n have_v give_v to_o minister_n a_o juridical_a power_n as_o they_o judge_v that_o of_o ordination_n to_o be_v by_o the_o abuse_n of_o which_o they_o may_v if_o they_o please_v disannul_v a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n chap._n vii_o wherein_o our_o argument_n for_o man_n being_n officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o and_o not_o to_o a_o universal_a be_v vindicate_v from_o the_o exception_n which_o mr._n pool_n 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their_o relation_n must_v be_v towards_o those_o among_o who_o their_o great_a work_n lie_v mr._n pool_n pag._n 17._o ans_fw-fr 1._o we_o suppose_v he_o intend_v that_o they_o be_v relate_v to_o heathen_n as_o their_o correlate_n else_o he_o speak_v nothing_o to_o the_o question_n and_o then_o 2._o his_o major_n may_v fair_o be_v deny_v the_o fight_v with_o enemy_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o principal_a ground_n and_o end_n why_o the_o office_n of_o colonel_n captain_n and_o other_o leader_n of_o army_n be_v appoint_v and_o their_o principal_a work_n yet_o those_o enemy_n to_o be_v fight_v with_o be_v not_o the_o correlate_n to_o the_o office_n of_o colonel_n captain_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v a_o regiment_n that_o be_v the_o correlate_n to_o the_o office_n of_o a_o colonel_n and_o a_o troop_n or_o company_n that_o be_v the_o correlate_n to_o the_o office_n of_o a_o captain_n and_o so_o heathen_n to_o be_v preach_v to_o be_v not_o the_o correlate_n to_o the_o office_n of_o the_o 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do_v not_o act_v as_o officer_n in_o their_o conversion_n thus_o we_o have_v answer_v his_o argument_n against_o this_o assertion_n that_o minister_n be_v officer_n only_o to_o their_o own_o congregation_n the_o provincial_a assembly_n use_v divers_a argument_n which_o we_o answer_v and_o mr._n pool_n seek_v to_o indicate_v we_o shall_v brief_o reply_v to_o his_o most_o material_a xception_n they_o object_v that_o we_o receive_v member_n of_o other_o congregation_n to_o the_o sacrament_n yet_o the_o administration_n of_o that_o be_v a_o ministerial_a act_n and_o can_v be_v do_v but_o by_o a_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n mr._n pool_n be_v so_o disturb_v at_o our_o answer_n to_o this_o that_o he_o say_v p._n 20._o he_o question_n not_o but_o any_o judicious_a reader_n will_v quick_o discern_v it_o how_o we_o be_v fall_v from_o our_o own_o principle_n and_o pag._n 21._o will_v have_v all_o man_n take_v notice_n of_o that_o and_o also_o that_o we_o have_v through_o incogitancy_n precipitate_v ourselves_o into_o the_o gulf_n of_o annabaptisme_n and_o he_o doubt_v not_o but_o we_o will_v retract_v it_o etc._n etc._n and_o all_o this_o because_o we_o say_v if_o they_o perform_v these_o act_n to_o any_o not_o of_o their_o own_o congregation_n they_o do_v not_o act_v as_o past_a over_o as_o officer_n to_o they_o therein_o ans_fw-fr we_o see_v no_o ground_n to_o retract_v what_o we_o have_v say_v in_o this_o matter_n and_o we_o think_v any_o unprejudiced_a reader_n who_o shall_v view_v our_o whole_a answer_n to_o their_o objection_n preach_v sent._n pag._n 278_o 279_o 280._o will_v apprehend_v that_o there_o be_v more_o strength_n in_o mr._n pool_n flourish_v of_o word_n to_o dazzle_v the_o eye_n of_o the_o weak_a then_o of_o argument_n to_o convince_v the_o judicious_a that_o we_o be_v in_o a_o error_n to_o clear_v the_o case_n 1._o we_o profess_v that_o it_o be_v when_o we_o write_v our_o former_a book_n and_o still_o be_v our_o judgement_n that_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o act_n which_o can_v be_v do_v but_o by_o a_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n none_o but_o a_o officer_n may_v perform_v this_o act_n 2._o yet_o we_o conceive_v a_o officer_n may_v administer_v the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v a_o common_a church_n privilege_n unto_o member_n of_o other_o church_n without_o be_v a_o officer_n over_o they_o for_o if_o any_o such_o relation_n as_o be_v between_o pastor_n and_o the_o member_n of_o his_o flock_n do_v arise_v upon_o that_o act_n than_o a_o obligation_n unto_o the_o mutual_a duty_n of_o the_o relation_n must_v follow_v also_o else_o all_o in_o a_o relation_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o the_o duty_n of_o it_o and_o who_o will_v say_v that_o pastor_n be_v to_o watch_v over_o the_o member_n of_o other_o church_n or_o that_o the_o lord_n have_v make_v they_o overseer_n of_o they_o or_o that_o such_o member_n be_v to_o aford_v maintenance_n etc._n etc._n to_o such_o pastor_n and_o if_o they_o be_v no_o officer_n over_o they_o they_o 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insinuate_v p._n 22._o that_o their_o argument_n be_v against_o our_o practice_n may_v easy_o be_v see_v in_o their_o book_n not_o against_o the_o assertion_n but_o as_o suppose_v though_o unground_o to_o be_v contradict_v by_o our_o practice_n and_o this_o be_v enough_o to_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v pag._n 20._o 21._o 22._o and_o may_v clear_o vindicate_v we_o from_o his_o aspersion_n for_o anabaptism_n he_o repli_v nothing_o to_o what_o we_o have_v say_v preacher_n send_v pag._n 281._o where_o we_o have_v clear_o answer_v their_o three_o particular_a in_o the_o several_a branch_n and_o have_v prove_v against_o they_o that_o minister_n be_v call_v elder_n of_o the_o people_n etc._n etc._n there_o be_v seven_o consequence_n which_o they_o say_v jus_fw-la divin_n min._n pag._n 140._o will_v follow_v this_o assertion_n to_o our_o exception_n against_o the_o first_o and_o second_o of_o these_o mr._n poole_n answer_v little_a or_o nothing_o what_o he_o say_v p._n 23._o be_v but_o a_o 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church_n jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 139._o and_o mr._n poole_n say_v pag._n 25._o in_o scripture_n there_o be_v ne_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n and_o call_v the_o contrary_a a_o monstrous_a paradox_n pag._n 28._o and_o how_o he_o can_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v their_o assertion_n or_o free_v himself_o from_o self-contradiction_n in_o these_o expression_n we_o know_v not_o for_o what_o difference_n be_v there_o between_o be_v made_n a_o church-member_n by_o baptism_n and_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n and_o how_o can_v one_o be_v a_o church-member_n fore_o baptism_n and_o yet_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n especial_o if_o there_o be_v not_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n how_o can_v those_o that_o be_v within_o the_o church_n already_o be_v say_v without_o a_o loss_n of_o membership_n to_o be_v admit_v into_o it_o by_o any_o after_o act_v sure_o admission_n be_v of_o those_o 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capacity_n of_o be_v receive_v into_o other_o church_n which_o what_o horrid_a confusion_n it_o will_v introduce_v etc._n etc._n mr._n poole_n pag._n 24._o answ_n it_o will_v not_o follow_v for_o that_o sin_n which_o make_v the_o ejection_n just_a will_v make_v another_o church_n admission_n unjust_a yet_o mens_fw-la incapacity_n to_o be_v receive_v by_o other_o church_n do_v not_o arise_v from_o their_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o those_o church_n but_o from_o the_o want_n of_o such_o qualification_n as_o be_v perquisite_a to_o admission_n into_o church-fellowship_n he_o grant_v p._n 25._o that_o when_o a_o minister_n be_v juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o office_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n by_o deposition_n he_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o officer_n to_o the_o universal_a church_n whence_o we_o infer_v that_o if_o he_o repent_v and_o become_v a_o officer_n again_o he_o must_v have_v a_o new_a ordination_n or_o else_o he_o may_v of_o no_o officer_n become_v a_o officer_n without_o ordination_n and_o so_o ordination_n be_v not_o essential_a to_o office_n that_o which_o follow_v pag._n 25._o be_v but_o a_o repetition_n of_o what_o he_o have_v say_v and_o be_v answer_v before_o that_o such_o as_o be_v convert_v from_o heathenism_n may_v join_v as_o member_n to_o some_o church_n and_o so_o be_v baptize_v we_o prove_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 289._o he_o repli_v nothing_o to_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o yet_o charge_v we_o for_o obtrude_a uncouth_a notion_n upon_o the_o world_n without_o evident_a proof_n etc._n etc._n and_o he_o that_o say_v pag._n 24._o they_o be_v church-member_n inchoate_v before_o baptism_n and_o who_o make_v so_o little_a a_o matter_n of_o admission_n into_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v not_o stumble_v at_o this_o notion_n and_o what_o be_v say_v to_o show_v that_o admission_n be_v not_o by_o baptism_n will_v not_o be_v far_o from_o a_o proof_n of_o it_o our_o argument_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 292._o plain_o show_v that_o their_o assertion_n run_v 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