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the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o such_o by_o divide_v from_o its_o governor_n member_n worship_n and_o assembly_n as_o i_o more_o than_o intimate_v in_o my_o book_n p._n 8._o and_o this_o aught_o to_o have_v be_v distinct_o observe_v at_o least_o by_o my_o answerer_n but_o instead_o thereof_o how_o he_o stumble_v and_o blunder_v look_v careful_o and_o make_v great_a outcry_n after_o that_o which_o i_o lay_v just_a before_o he_o you_o charge_v we_o say_v he_o p._n 37._o with_o schism_n from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n again_o p._n 38._o tell_v we_o what_o you_o mean_v by_o schism_n from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n again_o p._n 35._o we_o be_v tell_v of_o schism_n from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o if_o it_o be_v a_o monstrous_a and_o unheard_a of_o thing_n and_o then_o puzzle_v pitiful_o puzzle_v himself_o and_o his_o reader_n in_o a_o impertinent_a pursuit_n of_o the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o if_o without_o a_o certain_a and_o infallible_a 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