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A92075 The Cyprianick-Bishop examined, and found not to be a diocesan, nor to have superior power to a parish minister, or Presbyterian moderator being an answer to J.S. his Principles of the Cyprianick-age, with regard to episcopal power & jurisdiction : together with an appendix, in answer to a railing preface to a book, entituled, The fundamental charter of presbytery / by Gilbert Rule ... Rule, Gilbert, 1629?-1701. 1696 (1696) Wing R2218; ESTC R42297 93,522 126

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against_o felicissimus_n and_o augendus_n which_o they_o execute_v against_o they_o and_o some_o other_o if_o this_o discourse_n prove_v such_o a_o power_n of_o delegation_n it_o will_v also_o prove_v such_o a_o power_n in_o one_o bishop_n over_o another_o which_o our_o author_n will_v not_o allow_v see_v he_o assert_v p._n 27_o 28_o 35._o that_o every_o bishop_n be_v supreme_a and_o have_v no_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n on_o earth_n 2._o send_v a_o messenger_n to_o do_v for_o we_o what_o we_o be_v restrain_v from_o do_v be_v not_o always_o a_o act_n of_o authority_n one_o friend_n may_v send_v another_o if_o he_o yield_v to_o it_o as_o well_o as_o a_o master_n may_v send_v his_o servant_n 3._o that_o which_o have_v most_o weight_n in_o our_o main_a cause_n though_o it_o be_v impertinent_a to_o the_o present_a purpose_n be_v that_o these_o person_n be_v to_o excommunicate_v felicissimus_n etc._n etc._n to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o this_o excommunication_n may_v be_v determine_v by_o the_o presbytery_n and_o it_o be_v cyprian_n part_n as_o moderator_n to_o intimate_v it_o for_o which_o he_o substitute_v the_o person_n name_v here_o be_v no_o sole_a power_n of_o excommunication_n this_o be_v countenance_v by_o cyprian_n own_v word_n in_o that_o ep._n §_o 2._o that_o felicissimus_n have_v despise_v both_o he_o and_o the_o presbytery_n nec_fw-la meo_fw-la honore_fw-la motus_fw-la nec_fw-la vestra_fw-la authoritate_fw-la fractus_fw-la it_o seem_v he_o have_v be_v try_v before_o they_o and_o sentence_v for_o contumacy_n further_o he_o be_v also_o suspect_v of_o adultery_n which_o cyprian_n will_v not_o judge_v by_o himself_o but_o refer_v it_o to_o their_o meeting_n ibid._n §_o 48._o have_v now_o examine_v our_o author_n first_o principle_n i_o proceed_v to_o the_o second_o which_o he_o advance_v p._n 50_o etc._n etc._n it_o be_v that_o in_o every_o thing_n relate_v to_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o her_o discipline_n the_o bishop_n have_v a_o 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consistory_n by_o which_o the_o affair_n of_o the_o congregation_n be_v manage_v these_o i_o confess_v can_v administer_v no_o sacrament_n neither_o without_o nor_o with_o the_o bishop_n licence_n and_o for_o act_n of_o rule_v in_o the_o church_n it_o be_v probable_a enough_o that_o they_o can_v do_v nothing_o without_o he_o who_o be_v praeses_fw-la in_o their_o meeting_n except_o may_v be_v in_o some_o extraordinary_a case_n 2._o there_o be_v in_o some_o church_n especial_o in_o great_a city_n some_o presbyter_n who_o be_v ordain_v to_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n but_o have_v no_o particular_a charge_n and_o be_v as_o our_o probationer_n or_o student_n in_o divinity_n school_n only_o with_o this_o difference_n that_o we_o be_v not_o ordain_v these_o may_v not_o baptise_v nor_o administer_v the_o eucharist_n yea_o nor_o preach_v without_o the_o allowance_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o parish_n minister_n and_o it_o be_v so_o also_o among_o we_o if_o some_o ordain_v minister_n happen_v to_o live_v in_o a_o parish_n whereof_o they_o be_v not_o pastor_n as_o sometime_o fall_v out_o in_o great_a city_n it_o be_v disorderly_a for_o they_o to_o exercise_v their_o ministry_n within_o another_o man_n charge_n without_o his_o call_n or_o allowance_n these_o presbyter_n in_o cyprian_n time_n be_v in_o something_n like_o evangelist_n who_o the_o bishop_n employ_v when_o themselves_o can_v not_o overtake_v all_o their_o work_n and_o if_o these_o be_v call_v the_o bishop_n curate_n as_o our_o author_n do_v all_o presbyter_n i_o shall_v not_o much_o reclaim_v these_o be_v as_o the_o son_n of_o the_o prophet_n breed_v by_o the_o bishop_n for_o the_o ministry_n of_o this_o sort_n of_o presbyter_n see_v p._n baynes_n diocesan_n trial_n p._n 63._o a_o three_o sort_n of_o presbyter_n be_v the_o minister_n of_o the_o several_a parish_n among_o who_o the_o moderator_n of_o the_o presbytery_n or_o other_o church_n judicatory_a be_v in_o a_o peculiar_a manner_n call_v the_o bishop_n and_o they_o also_o often_o be_v call_v bishop_n with_o respect_n to_o their_o own_o parochial_a charge_n now_o if_o our_o author_n mean_a that_o a_o bishop_n in_o a_o city_n have_v such_o power_n over_o the_o presbyter_n or_o minister_n in_o the_o village_n or_o place_n about_o that_o they_o may_v not_o baptise_v etc._n etc._n without_o his_o allowance_n i_o utter_o deny_v it_o and_o maintain_v that_o every_o such_o presbyter_n minister_n or_o parochial_a bishop_n by_o what_o ever_o name_n you_o design_v he_o have_v in_o cyprian_n time_n as_o full_a power_n in_o his_o parish_n as_o the_o great_a bishop_n have_v in_o his_o though_o the_o one_o be_v more_o in_o esteem_n than_o the_o other_o §_o 49._o i_o shall_v now_o consider_v his_o proof_n for_o what_o he_o affirm_v he_o begin_v with_o baptism_n and_o pretend_v to_o prove_v that_o presbyter_n can_v not_o baptise_v without_o the_o bishop_n leave_n his_o first_o citation_n be_v cyprian_a say_v bishop_n give_v the_o first_o baptism_n to_o believer_n which_o we_o deny_v not_o if_o you_o understand_v it_o of_o parish_n minister_n but_o if_o he_o mean_v bishop_n in_o city_n who_o be_v the_o precedent_n in_o presbytery_n we_o deny_v that_o cyprian_a assert_v that_o his_o next_o testimony_n be_v out_o of_o cyprian_a ep._n 73._o and_o firmil_n and_o fortunatus_n bishop_n of_o thurobaris_n but_o it_o be_v evident_a and_o he_o confess_v it_o that_o the_o question_n by_o they_o treat_v be_v whether_o presbyter_n who_o by_o heresy_n or_o schism_n have_v depart_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n may_v baptise_v and_o if_o they_o they_o do_v whether_o that_o baptism_n be_v valid_a or_o the_o person_n be_v to_o be_v again_o baptise_a and_o that_o baptism_n esteem_v null_a and_o in_o this_o we_o do_v so_o far_o agree_v with_o these_o father_n as_o to_o think_v that_o all_o the_o administration_n of_o such_o heretic_n or_o schismatic_n be_v irregular_a and_o to_o be_v condemn_v and_o that_o none_o ought_v so_o to_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n while_o she_o keep_v the_o way_n of_o truth_n and_o require_v no_o unlawful_a term_n of_o communion_n of_o her_o minister_n or_o other_o member_n but_o none_o of_o these_o father_n do_v ever_o assert_v that_o in_o the_o church_n a_o sound_a presbyter_n can_v not_o baptise_v without_o the_o bishop_n leave_n within_o the_o limit_n of_o his_o own_o charge_n that_o they_o mean_v no_o more_o than_o i_o say_v be_v evident_a for_o they_o plead_v that_o none_o can_v baptise_v out_o of_o the_o church_n nor_o bind_v or_o loose_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o they_o say_v express_o that_o none_o can_v baptise_v but_o they_o who_o be_v found_v in_o the_o evangelical_n law_n and_o i_o hope_v it_o will_v not_o be_v deny_v that_o minister_n of_o congregation_n be_v found_v on_o that_o law_n as_o well_o as_o these_o of_o great_a city_n who_o be_v then_o call_v bishop_n because_o of_o their_o praecedency_n in_o church_n meeting_n that_o bishop_n be_v name_v 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negligent_a in_o their_o ministerial_a work_n 6._o we_o also_o encourage_v and_o admit_v to_o the_o government_n they_o that_o do_v well_o 7._o letter_n that_o concern_v a_o particular_a congregation_n be_v with_o we_o direct_v to_o the_o minister_n these_o concern_v the_o presbytery_n to_o the_o moderator_n we_o also_o cast_v out_o bad_a minister_n and_o such_o as_o adhere_v to_o they_o if_o the_o cause_n be_v weighty_a but_o we_o use_v moderation_n to_o the_o people_n who_o be_v lead_v away_o by_o schismatical_a minister_n when_o their_o separation_n be_v found_v on_o lesser_a mistake_n &_o if_o in_o this_o we_o differ_v from_o the_o cyprianick_n age_n his_o party_n shall_v not_o blame_v we_o have_v taste_v so_o much_o of_o our_o lenity_n let_v it_o then_o be_v consider_v how_o impertinent_a this_o whole_a discourse_n be_v and_o how_o insufficient_a to_o prove_v the_o episcopacy_n of_o the_o cyprianick-age_n that_o he_o plead_v for_o §_o 60._o he_o use_v several_a enforcement_n of_o this_o argument_n p._n 88_o &_o 89._o which_o i_o shall_v brief_o consider_v 1._o the_o college_n of_o bishop_n be_v still_o consider_v as_o church-governor_n notorious_o distinguish_v from_o presbyter_n answ_n this_o distinction_n lie_v in_o the_o dignity_n that_o the_o declension_n of_o that_o time_n from_o apostolic_a simplicity_n give_v they_o not_o in_o any_o power_n that_o they_o have_v which_o presbyter_n have_v not_o 2._o a_o presbyter_n be_v never_o call_v a_o bishop_n colleague_n answ_n if_o this_o be_v grant_v such_o a_o negative_a argument_n and_o that_o draw_v from_o word_n and_o way_n of_o speak_v which_o do_v often_o vary_v be_v not_o very_a concludent_fw-la i_o have_v show_v that_o the_o same_o power_n be_v ascribe_v to_o they_o see_v §_o 62._o where_o the_o contrary_a of_o what_o he_o assert_v be_v show_v 3._o we_o have_v no_o vestige_n of_o a_o presbyterian_a moderator_n in_o these_o time_n answ_n there_o be_v then_o a_o moderator_n who_o be_v call_v the_o bishop_n 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may_v have_v this_o long_a argument_n stretch_v from_o thence_o to_o p._n 90._o entire_o in_o view_n and_o give_v a_o general_a answer_n to_o it_o he_o make_v the_o bishop_n the_o principle_n of_o unity_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o the_o college_n of_o bishop_n the_o principle_n of_o unity_n to_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o christ_n the_o principle_n of_o unity_n to_o that_o college_n and_o add_v i_o hope_v not_o be_v a_o romanist_n you_o will_v not_o require_v that_o i_o shall_v prove_v the_o high_a step_n of_o this_o gradation_n here_o i_o observe_v first_o the_o discourse_n be_v about_o a_o visible_a head_n or_o principle_n of_o unity_n to_o the_o church_n which_o can_v be_v ascribe_v to_o christ_n wherefore_o this_o be_v whole_o impertinent_a or_o if_o it_o have_v any_o sense_n it_o tend_v to_o make_v his_o reader_n a_o romanist_n who_o he_o suppose_v not_o to_o be_v one_o already_o for_o if_o the_o particular_a and_o catholic_n church_n have_v a_o visible_a 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the_o book_n or_o place_n of_o they_o on_o which_o he_o ground_v his_o assertion_n for_o some_o of_o these_o author_n have_v write_v much_o however_o i_o hope_v to_o find_v out_o in_o they_o what_o be_v sufficient_a to_o my_o purpose_n i_o begin_v with_o chamier_n who_o panstrat_n catholic_n tom._n 2._o lib._n 10._o discourse_v on_o this_o subject_a copious_o but_o i_o find_v not_o one_o word_n in_o he_o assert_v that_o in_o the_o first_o three_o century_n bishop_n have_v the_o rule_n of_o the_o church_n above_o presbyter_n further_o than_o that_o they_o be_v above_o they_o in_o dignity_n and_o by_o a_o priority_n of_o order_n not_o of_o jurisdiction_n far_o less_o that_o they_o have_v the_o sole_a jurisdiction_n which_o our_o author_n pretend_v to_o prove_v on_o the_o contrary_a that_o learned_a writer_n prove_v c._n 3._o that_o there_o be_v no_o domination_n allow_v in_o the_o church_n c._n 5._o that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o several_a church_n be_v aristocratical_a and_o he_o show_v that_o all_o presbyter_n at_o first_o be_v equal_a but_o that_o afterward_o as_o he_o cit_v ambrose_n and_o jerome_n unus_fw-la electus_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la omnium_fw-la primus_fw-la esset_fw-la &_o episcopus_fw-la diceretur_fw-la and_o on_o this_o he_o make_v two_o observe_v first_o in_o ecclesiae_fw-la primordiis_fw-la nullos_fw-la tale_n episcopos_fw-la fuisse_fw-la qui_fw-la postea_fw-la instituti_fw-la fuere_fw-la qui_fw-la svo_fw-la jure_fw-la reliquis_fw-la è_fw-la clero_fw-la praeessent_fw-la and_o he_o thence_o infer_v the_o absolute_a parity_n of_o presbyter_n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la his_o second_o observation_n be_v ne_fw-la tunc_fw-la quidem_fw-la cum_fw-la hic_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la a_o presbyteris_fw-la distinctorum_fw-la ordo_fw-la est_fw-la constitutus_fw-la fuisse_fw-la episcopos_fw-la ut_fw-la monarchas_n see_v how_o he_o agree_v with_o our_o author_n p._n 23_o 32._o qui_fw-la potestatem_fw-la haberent_fw-la in_o clerum_fw-la sed_fw-la principes_fw-la electos_fw-la qui_fw-la rebus_fw-la deliberandis_fw-la praeessent_fw-la ut_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la in_o omni_fw-la aristocratia_fw-la where_o he_o seem_v exact_o to_o describe_v a_o moderator_n such_o as_o be_v in_o our_o presbytery_n and_o other_o church_n judicatories_n after_o that_o c._n 6._o he_o have_v prove_v that_o jure_fw-la divino_fw-la episcopus_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la major_a presbytero_fw-la contrary_a to_o our_o author_n p._n 26._o c._n 7._o he_o prove_v that_o the_o government_n of_o province_n be_v also_o aristocratical_a and_o do_v evident_o make_v a_o archbishop_n or_o metropolitan_a no_o more_o than_o we_o make_v the_o moderator_n of_o a_o synod_n or_o of_o a_o general_n assembly_n i_o mean_v he_o allow_v they_o no_o more_o jurisdiction_n now_o let_v any_o judge_n with_o what_o brow_n my_o antagonist_n can_v bring_v chamier_n for_o his_o voucher_n who_o so_o flat_o contradict_v the_o whole_a of_o his_o book_n §_o 12._o his_o next_o author_n be_v blondel_n who_o will_v be_v find_v to_o do_v he_o no_o more_o service_n for_o the_o whole_a design_n and_o strain_n of_o his_o apologia_fw-la pro_fw-la sententia_fw-la hieronomi_fw-la be_v to_o prove_v that_o episcopus_fw-la and_o presbyter_n be_v the_o same_o as_o both_o in_o name_n and_o power_n in_o the_o apostolic_a age_n of_o the_o church_n so_o in_o power_n in_o the_o first_o second_o three_o and_o much_o of_o the_o four_o century_n though_o he_o confess_v that_o the_o name_n &_o some_o majority_n not_o high_a jurisdiction_n be_v soon_o give_v to_o the_o bishop_n this_o be_v evident_a for_o s._n i._n p_o 4._o he_o say_v that_o jeromes_n toto_fw-la orbe_fw-la decretum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la unus_fw-la de_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la caeteris_fw-la superponeretur_fw-la occasion_v by_o the_o division_n among_o christians_n and_o say_v ego_fw-la sum_fw-la pauli_n etc._n etc._n that_o this_o i_o say_v be_v quarto_fw-la a_fw-fr corinthiorum_fw-la turbis_fw-la saeculo_fw-la and_o that_o i_o say_v it_o de_fw-fr svi_fw-la temporis_fw-la hominibus_fw-la and_o prove_v it_o from_o jerome_n own_o word_n which_o be_v quando_fw-la non_fw-la idipsum_fw-la omnes_fw-la loquimur_fw-la &_o alius_fw-la dicit_fw-la ego_fw-la sum_fw-la pauli_n ego_fw-la apollo_n ego_fw-la cephae_fw-la dividimus_fw-la spiritus_fw-la unitatem_fw-la &_o eam_fw-la in_o part_n &_o in_o membra_fw-la discerpimus_fw-la and_o he_o say_v that_o jerome_n torquebat_fw-la verba_fw-la paulina_n de_fw-la corinthiis_fw-la in_fw-la eos_fw-la nempe_fw-la svi_fw-la temporis_fw-la homines_fw-la &_o p._n 6_o 7._o he_o full_o show_v that_o i_o believe_v the_o identity_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n from_o his_o blame_a they_o who_o make_v deacon_n equal_a to_o presbyter_n i_o e._n to_o bishop_n also_o p._n 8._o that_o in_o alexandria_n of_o which_o i_o say_v that_o à_fw-fr marci_n temporibus_fw-la ad_fw-la heracleam_fw-it dionysiumque_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la unum_fw-la ex_fw-la se_fw-la electum_fw-la in_o excelsiori_fw-la gradu_fw-la collocatum_fw-la episcopum_fw-la dixerunt_fw-la it_o be_v but_o jusprimae_fw-la cathedrae_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la inter_fw-la collegas_fw-la fratrem_fw-la spontanea_fw-la hac_fw-la dignatione_fw-la honorantes_fw-la sedentis_fw-la and_o ibid._n he_o say_v ex_fw-la hieronomi_fw-la sententia_fw-la episcopalia_fw-la omne_fw-la ex_fw-la aequo_fw-la competebant_fw-la and_o that_o every_o one_o of_o they_o be_v equal_a vrbico_n papae_fw-la s._n 2._o blondel_n prove_v all_o the_o father_n of_o the_o three_o or_o four_o first_o age_n to_o have_v be_v of_o the_o same_o opinion_n with_o jerome_n and_o p._n 8._o have_v this_o transition_n prodeant_fw-la jam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d patrum_fw-la acies_fw-la qui_fw-la sanctum_fw-la virum_fw-la hieronymum_n seu_fw-la solitarium_fw-la in_o tecto_fw-la passerem_fw-la non_fw-la relictum_fw-la doceant_fw-la this_o he_o prove_v from_o clemens_n of_o rome_n from_o polycarp_n of_o smyrna_n from_o hermes_n from_o pius_n the_o pope_n of_o rôme_n justin_n papias_n irenaeus_n and_o the_o gallican_n church_n in_o his_o time_n victor_n the_o pope_n clemens_n of_o alexandria_n tertullian_n origen_n cyprian_a also_o on_o who_o opinion_n in_o this_o matter_n my_o antagonist_n state_v the_o whole_a controversy_n wherefore_o i_o shall_v a_o little_a further_o consider_v what_o account_n blondel_n give_v of_o his_o opinion_n he_o say_v p._n 41._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d toto_fw-la administrationis_fw-la tempore_fw-la aggressus_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la partita_fw-la quasi_fw-la ex_fw-la concepto_fw-la voto_fw-la cum_fw-la comministris_fw-la cura_fw-la ac_fw-la potestate_fw-la carthaginensem_fw-la plebem_fw-la gubernavit_fw-la and_o cit_v cyprian_n himself_o say_v to_o his_o clergy_n sed_fw-la cum_fw-la per_fw-la dei_fw-la gratiam_fw-la venero_fw-la tunc_fw-la de_fw-fr iis_fw-la quae_fw-la vel_fw-la gesta_fw-la sunt_fw-la vel_fw-la gerenda_fw-la sicut_fw-la mutuus_fw-la honour_n exposcit_fw-la in_fw-la communi_fw-la tractabimus_fw-la and_o in_o another_o epistle_n quae_fw-la res_fw-la cum_fw-la omnium_fw-la nostrum_fw-la consilium_fw-la &_o sententiam_fw-la spectet_fw-la praejudicare_fw-la ego_fw-la &_o soli_fw-la mihi_fw-la rem_fw-la communem_fw-la vindicare_fw-la non_fw-la audeo_fw-la he_o show_v also_o p._n 43._o that_o cyprian_a do_v always_o speak_v of_o the_o clergy_n as_o divide_v only_o in_o two_o part_n the_o praepositi_fw-la and_o the_o deacon_n and_o he_o call_v both_o the_o episcopi_fw-la and_o the_o praepositi_fw-la apostle_n if_o i_o shall_v cite_v all_o that_o blondel_n bring_v out_o of_o cyprian_a to_o this_o purpose_n i_o behove_v to_o transcribe_v almost_o four_o page_n of_o his_o book_n of_o which_o citation_n we_o shall_v have_v further_a occasion_n give_v by_o our_o author_n to_o discourse_n it_o be_v then_o more_o evident_a than_o what_o he_o in_o most_o of_o his_o reason_n talk_v high_o of_o that_o either_o this_o author_n have_v not_o read_v blondel_n but_o cite_v he_o at_o adventure_n or_o have_v a_o confidence_n to_o assert_v what_o he_o will_v though_o absurd_a and_o unaccountable_a §_o 13._o he_o be_v full_a as_o unhapy_a in_o his_o next_o witness_n salmasius_n who_o both_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr episcopis_fw-la &_o presbyteris_fw-la be_v against_o this_o author_n and_o in_o walo_n messalinus_n that_o be_v common_o ascribe_v to_o he_o do_v strong_o maintain_v the_o identity_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n against_o petavius_n the_o jesuit_n in_o the_o first_o age_n and_o be_v far_o from_o acknowledge_v any_o further_a difference_n between_o they_o till_o jerome_n time_n which_o be_v after_o cyprian_n about_o which_o we_o now_o contend_v than_o of_o great_a dignity_n for_o chap_n 3._o he_o show_v that_o the_o primacy_n among_o presbyter_n be_v from_o their_o seniority_n and_o more_o full_o ch._n 4._o p._n 273._o credibile_fw-la est_fw-la say_v he_o circa_fw-la medium_n secundi_fw-la saeculi_fw-la non_fw-la alius_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la fuisse_fw-la cognitos_fw-la episcopos_fw-la quam_fw-la qui_fw-la primatum_fw-la in_o presbyterio_fw-la adepti_fw-la essent_fw-la cum_fw-la primos_fw-la faceret_fw-la non_fw-la electio_fw-la ex_fw-la merito_fw-la sed_fw-la ordinationis_fw-la tempus_fw-la quem_fw-la morem_fw-la diu_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la durasse_n testis_fw-la est_fw-la ille_fw-la author_n qui_fw-la ambrosii_fw-la nomine_fw-la commentarios_fw-la in_o epistolas_fw-la pauli_n scripsit_fw-la and_o a_o little_a below_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d dabatur_fw-la ei_fw-la qui_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la antiquior_fw-la
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to_o be_v bishop_n in_o his_o retirement_n not_o only_o without_o he_o but_o without_o the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o presbytery_n or_o congregational_a eldership_n i_o shall_v not_o determine_v which_o of_o these_o the_o church_n of_o carthage_n be_v then_o govern_v by_o receive_v some_o of_o the_o lapse_v which_o i_o as_o well_o as_o my_o antagonist_n do_v reckon_v a_o very_a disorderly_a action_n this_o cyprian_a do_v just_o blame_v and_o that_o on_o this_o ground_n that_o they_o set_v up_o another_o altar_n in_o that_o church_n that_o be_v they_o throw_v off_o the_o church_n authority_n that_o be_v regular_o place_v in_o carthage_n and_o set_v up_o another_o beside_o we_o also_o will_v blame_v they_o who_o will_v cast_v off_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o presbytery_n or_o kirk-session_n and_o set_v up_o another_o what_o be_v cyprian_n meaning_n be_v yet_o clear_a from_o what_o our_o author_n unwary_o cit_v out_o of_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr unittae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la an_fw-mi 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