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shall_v appear_v that_o you_o have_v for_o this_o opinion_n desert_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n out_o of_o which_o church_n be_v no_o salvation_n soc._n 75._o soc._n dr._n potter_n p._n 75._o i_o grant_v there_o neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v any_o just_a cause_n to_o depart_v from_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n no_o more_o than_o from_o christ_n himself_n therefore_o i_o utter_o deny_v that_o our_o church_n have_v make_v any_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n catholic_n at_o all_o and_o this_o for_o many_o reason_n for_o one_a 274._o one_a chillingw_n p._n 274._o we_o have_v not_o forsake_v the_o whole_a church_n or_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o it_o but_o only_o that_o part_n of_o it_o which_o be_v corrupt_v and_o still_o will_v be_v so_o and_o have_v not_o forsake_v but_o only_o reform_v another_o part_n of_o it_o which_o part_n we_o ourselves_o be_v and_o i_o suppose_v you_o will_v not_o go_v about_o to_o persuade_v we_o that_o we_o have_v forsake_v 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particular_a church_n in_o such_o a_o thing_n wherein_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n do_v not_o consist_v be_v no_o separation_n from_o the_o whole_a church_n nor_o be_v any_o thing_n more_o than_o our_o suspension_n from_o the_o communion_n of_o particular_a church_n till_o such_o their_o error_n be_v reform_v for_o as_o doctor_n stillingfleet_n 331._o stillingfleet_n p._n 331._o there_o can_v be_v no_o separation_n from_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o in_o such_o thing_n wherein_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n lie_v whoso_o therefore_o separate_v from_o any_o particular_a church_n as_o to_o thing_n not_o concern_v their_o be_v be_v only_o separate_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o that_o church_n and_o not_o the_o catholic_n now_o that_o for_o which_o we_o have_v separate_v from_o other_o church_n we_o conceive_v not_o such_o as_o be_v essential_a or_o concern_v the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n so_o that_o without_o it_o we_o or_o they_o can_v still_o retain_v the_o essence_n thereof_o we_o declare_v also_o our_o readiness_n to_o join_v with_o they_o again_o if_o this_o error_n be_v correct_v or_o at_o least_o not_o impose_v and_o ib._n and_o still_v ib._n as_o dr._n stillingfleet_n say_v where_o there_o be_v this_o readiness_n of_o communion_n there_o be_v no_o absolute_a separation_n from_o the_o church_n as_o such_o but_o only_o suspend_v communion_n till_o such_o abuse_n be_v reform_v or_o not_o press_v upon_o we_o and_o as_o bishop_n bramhall_n 9_o bramhall_n vindic._n of_o the_o church_n of_o eng._n p_o 9_o when_o one_o part_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n separate_v itself_o from_o another_o part_n not_o absolute_o or_o in_o essential_o but_o respective_o in_o abuse_n and_o innovation_n not_o as_o it_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n but_o only_o so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v corrupt_v and_o degenerate_v whether_o in_o doctrine_n or_o manner_n it_o do_v still_o retain_v a_o communion_n not_o only_o with_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o with_o all_o the_o orthodox_n member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o even_o with_o that_o corrupt_a church_n from_o which_o it_o be_v separate_v except_o only_o in_o such_o corruption_n §_o 32_o prot._n save_v better_a judgement_n methinks_v a_o separation_n if_o causeless_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o all_o other_o church_n or_o from_o those_o who_o be_v our_o superior_n in_o a_o lesser_a matter_n than_o such_o a_o fundamental_a or_o essential_a point_n of_o christianity_n as_o destroy_v the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n shall_v be_v schism_n and_o the_o small_a the_o point_n for_o which_o we_o separate_v the_o great_a the_o guilt_n of_o our_o separation_n be_v not_o the_o donatists_n schismatic_n in_o reject_v the_o catholic_n communion_n require_v their_o conformity_n in_o such_o a_o point_n in_o which_o st._n cyprian_n error_n before_o the_o church_n define_n thereof_o be_v very_o excusable_a and_o the_o african_a congregation_n in_o his_o time_n not_o un-churched_n thereby_o soc._n 76._o soc._n d._n potter_n p._n 76._o but_o the_o donatist_n do_v cut_v off_o from_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o hope_n of_o salvation_n the_o church_n from_o which_o they_o separate_v which_o be_v the_o property_n of_o schismatic_n and_o 359._o and_o stillingfl_fw-mi p._n 359._o they_o be_v just_o charge_v with_o schism_n because_o they_o confine_v the_o catholic_n church_n within_o their_o own_o bound_n but_o as_o dr._n ferne_n say_v 106._o say_v division_n of_o church_n p._n 106._o haddit_n the_o donatist_n only_o use_v their_o liberty_n and_o judgement_n in_o that_o practice_n of_o rebaptising_a heretic_n leave_v other_o church_n to_o their_o liberty_n and_o though_o think_v they_o in_o a_o error_n for_o admit_v heretic_n without_o baptise_v they_o yet_o willing_a to_o have_v communion_n with_o they_o as_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n save_v the_o practice_n wherein_o they_o differ_v then_o have_v they_o not_o be_v guilty_a of_o schism_n in_o that_o which_o i_o hold_v i_o only_o follow_v my_o conscience_n condemn_v not_o the_o church_n hold_v otherwise_o on_o the_o other_o side_n 278._o side_n chillingw_n p._n 278._o christ_n have_v forbid_v i_o under_o pain_n of_o damnation_n to_o profess_v what_o i_o believe_v not_o be_v it_o small_a or_o great_a and_o consequent_o under_o the_o same_o penalty_n have_v oblige_v i_o to_o leave_v the_o communion_n in_o which_o i_o can_v remain_v without_o the_o hypocritical_a profession_n of_o such_o a_o thing_n which_o i_o be_o convince_v to_o be_v erroneous_a 279._o erroneous_a ib._n 279._o at_o least_o this_o i_o know_v that_o the_o doctrine_n which_o i_o have_v choose_v to_o i_o seem_v true_a and_o the_o contrary_a which_o i_o have_v forsake_v seem_v false_a and_o therefore_o without_o remorse_n of_o conscience_n i_o may_v profess_v that_o but_o this_o i_o can_v and_o a_o separation_n for_o preserve_v my_o conscience_n i_o hope_v will_v never_o be_v judge_v causeless_o 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