THE NECESSITY Of Adhering To the Church of ENGLAND As by Law established OR The Duty of a Good Christian And particularly of PARENTS and MASTERS OF FAMILIES UNDER The Present Toleration By William Saywell D. D. Arch-deacon of Ely These are they who separate themselves sensual having not the Spirit Jude 19. CAMBRIDGE Printed by J. Hayes Printer to the University for Edw. Hall Bookseller there 1692. Decemb. 23. 1691. Imprimatur Gabr. Quadring Procan Jo. Beaumont Humf. Gower Joh. Covel THE PREFACE TO All in any Authority ESPECIALLY To Parents and Masters of Families IN THE ARCH-DEACONRY Of ELY I Have in the following Discourse shewed you the true way to Peace and Happiness upon Earth and the certain means of Salvation in the World to come if you will keep your selves and Families in the Communion of the Church of England and practise those Rules and Orders which She has required for your Publick Devotion and duties of Religion And also made it evident what danger your Children and Servants are in of being ruined if you doe not make use of that Power and Authority which God has given you over them to see them duely Instructed in their Catechism and brought up in a Religious conversation and constant attendance at the Prayers and Sacraments of the Church This I have often urged with great earnestness to your Ministers and Church-wardens as they can very well testifie and this if I had opportunity I should deliver to your consideration in your several Parishes and I doubt not but your Ministers often put you in mind of the same but my strength and other occasions not affording me leasure to do that I do send these Books which you may Read and meditate upon at your spare times And for your farther direction besides your Bible and Common-Prayer I recommend to Your and Their serious perusal a Book called The whole Duty of Man where you have Sober and Pious discourses about your particular Duties and also usefull directions about Prayer and other parts of Private Devotion 'T is not only Meat and Drink you are to take care of for your Families as the Beasts do for their young but you are also to provide for their Souls which are the better part and therefore see them educated in the true Faith and Obedience to God and made usefull Instruments to promote the Peace and welfare of their Country Schism and Heresie will make them enemies to both and to you to It will teach them to be stubborn and self-willed Proud and Morose Peevish and ill Natured False and Treacherous and common disturbers of the Church and State all which inconveniences you will avoid if you bring them up in the constant Communion of the Church of England for She only here teaches them the true old Way and the plain Doctrines of the Catholick Church and She is the only particular Church to whom by the Laws of God and Man you are bound to yield submission and this has been fully made out not only against Papists but all other Schismaticks and Dissenters This all Godfathers and Godmothers ought to take into their serious Consideration and where Parents are careless or erroneous they should use their endeavour to see their God-sons and God-daughters brought up in the Profession of that Faith into which they were Baptized the neglect whereof has made the command of the Church herein so much complained off and condemned by the Dissenters for else no Man in his wits can find fault with the Churches care in this matter Since beside the Parents who have a natural Obligation to breed up their Children in the fear of God others are engaged to take care to see that done in Case the Parents dye or neglect it Indeed it is every Christians care in some measure but that it might be more Orderly managed 't is layd upon some few to take it into their more especial Charge and usually left amongst Friends and Relations which in Reason and Nature will be most carefull to see it done To say it is much neglected is no more then may be said of too many Parents also but the custome is very good and Sureties ought to be more carefull to perform the Trust that the Church and Friends lay upon them and to do what they can by themselves or others is all that is expected But it is not onely teaching them their Catechism is sufficient but you ought to see that they lead their Lives according to those Pious Rules and Directions that the Church has taught them and also carefully to restrain them and to correct them for their Vices and Debauchery such as Swearing Lying Drunkenness absenting from the Church and all other kind of Wickedness and the better to prevent all these mischiefs carry them with you at all times to the Church and take account of them what they have Learned and Observed from the Ministers Sermons and Catechizing and be oftentimes on Sundays c. and other Leasure times putting them in mind of their Duty See Deut. 6.7 This the State as well as the Church does now more particularly require of you Deut. 11.18.19 during the Toleration which is not meant to justifie Heresie or Schism or to warrant that they are in a safe condition that separate from the Church no more then Jews or Hereticks who have the like benefit much less to encourage Ignorance and Profaness but only to take off the Temporal Punishment which the Civil State did inflict Now God does often defer his Judgments to wait for our amendment and Parents and Masters do sometimes think it convenient to wink at Offences in their Children and Servants and so thô the State does not at present punish Dissenters yet it does so far disapprove of their Wayes that all the Obligations in Conscience to Conform to the Church still remain both by the Laws of the Church and State also Neither is any Man thought fit to be admitted to any Office or Place of Trust that does not joyn in Communion with the Church of England Besides you must consider thô Punishments may be an outward means yet 't is voluntary Obedience makes good Christians If therefore you will discharge your Duty to God to the Church and State and the Obligation you owe to your Families you must diligently observe these Directions and take more particular Care at this time in the educating of your Children and Servants in the Communion of the Church nay if you expect they should receive any Benefit from any Publick employment in Church or State And I pray God direct you and make you carefull herein and I as I have opportunity shall sometimes come and see and enquire how well your Parish-Churches and Sacraments are frequented by those who would be accounted hearty Friends and true Sons of the Church of England For if they are careless herein how can we expect it from others who would rejoyce at our Destruction and the Papists in the end will
to read through and consider the meaning of the Scriptures so as to be able to satisfie themselves in all doubts and scruples that cunning Hereticks raise to pervert them from the Truth Therefore Christ Jesus left Pastors and Teachers and founded a Church to continue a constant Pillar and Monument to expound to us all difficult and hard places and to condemn and censure false interpretations and stop the mouths of Seducers from spreading abroad damnable Heresies to the ruine of your Souls and then that her Authority might not be despised Matt. 18. The Scripture says if any one refuse to hear the Church let him be unto Thee as an Heathen man and a Publican And for our better encouragement to hearken to her instruction our Lord has promised that the gates of Hell shall never prevail against it Matt. 16. And then to direct the unlearned and unstable he has set Pastors and Teachers for the perfecting of the Saints Ephes 4.11 12 13 14. for the work of the Ministry for the edifying of the body of Christ till we all come in the unity of Faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect Man unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ that we may henceforth be no more Children tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of Doctrine by the sleight of Men and cunning craftiness whereby they lie in wait to deceive c. So that we do not take off from the fullness and sufficiency of the Scriptures if rightly expounded and understood but for the satisfaction of the unlearned and unstable which are the greatest part of Mankind we must remember that God has kept up a Church and constant succession of Bishops and Ministers in an Orderly way to teach us the true meaning of his Word and to keep up Discipline and Order and so to preserve us from the Heresies and false Interpretations of Schismaticks that lead Men unto errour and destruction While Men therefore keep within the City they are in no danger of being a prey to the wild Beasts but if they run into a Wilderness they may easily be destroyed by them While they keep within the Ship they are secure from drowning but if they forsake that and commit themselves to the unconstant Waves 't is Ten Thousand to One if they do not miscarry So while Men keep within the Communion of the Church and follow the guidance of those Pastors which God has appointed to keep them steady there is no danger of their Salvation but if they forsake the Church and run into Conventicles Psal 91.11 they go out of Gods way and so out of his protection and are exposed to all Heresie and Confusion If their Teachers do not Sin wilfully and lead them into Heresie yet they may mislead them through ignorance and unskilfullness WHO can tell how oft he offendeth nay the Heart above all things is deceitfull therefore 't is an easie matter for Men that follow the guidance of their own understanding and neglect the command of the Church to be deluded by the Devil who often appears as an Angel of Light and yet is still busie to seek whom he may devour Neither can they hope for the blessing of God and depend upon the promise of his direction when they go into by Pathes and pursue their own devices How many plain things may such presumptuous Men overlook how often may they misunderstand some parts of Gods word which want more care and attention Besides who can be sure that they come with all Languages and other helps to reading them or take such pains to read and compare all Texts as not to be ignorant in many duties of great necessity to be observed And if the blind lead the blind they both fall into the ditch And no wonder if People perish for want of vision when they wilfully run away from the instruction of the Church and follow such ignorant guides who had need to be taught the first Principles of humility and understanding Thô therefore by good Words and fair Speeches they may deceive the hearts of the Simple and may gather many excellent expressions out of the Holy Scriptures yet 't is a great rashness and want of Judgment for Men to trust their Souls upon the skill and understanding of such private Seducers who by their ignorance may leave them without that sufficient instruction which is necessary to Salvation Objections and Questions against Conformity answered BUT some will Object that their setting up Conventicles in opposition to the Bishops and Ministers is no more then what the Bishops did in opposition to the Church of Rome and therefore if they are Schismaticks now the Bishops were also by Reforming the Church without the Authority of the Pope and Church of Rome I answer By the Council of Nice and all other general Councils and the constant Order of the Catholick Church all Provincial and National Churches have power to Govern themselves and reform any abuses or errours that have crept into their Communion And our Bishops and Clergy did in an Orderly way lay aside several errours that are maintained by the Church of Rome but still retain the Faith and unity of the Catholick Church and we do also particularly blame the Roman Church for breaking the Order and rejecting the Traditions of the Primitive Fathers and general Councils but do not at all break the Rule of Christian Charity to the Church of Rome or any other Church in the World we leave them to Reform and Govern their own Churches and do but use the same Liberty over our own Members which Christ has given and the Church has ever maintained which we allow them to use over those of their own Communion for they ought to Reform those abuses as we have done Obj. But is there not a plain rent and division made in the Church by this Reformation and those that were united before in One Communion are broken into several parties Answ That there are and must be Heresies and Schisms in the Church we are taught by the Holy Scriptures 1 Cor. 11.19 That they which are approved may be made manifest But we cannot answer for other Men it is sufficient we break Charity with no body we pay all Love and friendship and all that communion that one particular Church ought to pay to another but we do not intermeddle with their private affairs or disturb and embroyl their Communion and if the Church of Rome and other Churches that hold with her would keep the same temper that we have and still do we should quickly see an end of all our Divisions Can. 30. for we differ from none but where they differ from themselves and depart from the Primitive purity of those Ancient and Apostolical Churches from whence they had their beginning And as for that Obedience and Conformity which we require of our own Members it is no other and upon far
easier Terms then all Churches do require of those that are under their respective Jurisdictions So that we are neither the cause nor party in any Division Other Churches that break communion with us deny that Christian Charity that One Member of Christs Body ought to pay to another and those of our own Members that run into Conventicles set up Altar against Altar and divide themselves from our Communion go against the plain word of God which requires them to obey them that have the Rule over them See my Evangel and Cath. unity c. against the constant Order of the Catholick Church and general Councils and contrary to the Doctrine and Command of all other Churches in the World Obj. But are there no Reasons then for Men to refuse the Communion of their particular Church and Bishop and must every private Christian alwayes comply with their Governours whatsoever they say or do Answ They must obey their particular Church in all things Lawfull which are in all things not contrary to the word of God and the Catholick Church Obj. But who shall be Judge in this Case Answ The sense of the Catholick Church in Cases of doubt is to be consulted Obj. But is it not hard to know where she may be consulted and how to understand her Sense in any matter Answ God has promised that the way shall be so plain that a wayfaring Man though a Fool shall not err therein Isa 35.8 1 Tim. 3.15 and for our direction tells us the Church is the Pillar and Ground of Truth And thereupon he has commanded us to hear and obey the Church and there is no doubt it will be an easie matter to understand what her Sense is in all Cases needfull for us to know Obj. But have not Bishops and Scholars themselves many disputes about the Church and about her Sense in several points and how then can People know the Sence of the Church Answ Men of some Judgment and little Reading are willing to despise that Authority which is above their capacity and Men of great Reading and little Judgment do not know how to reconcile the seeming differences in the Church but if you consult your Bishops and Ministers they will satisfie you concerning the Sense of the Catholick Church in all parts of your duty For since God has made it our duty to hear and obey the Churches he will order matters so that all People that are willing to follow her direction may be guided by it for God does not reveal any thing to us that we cannot believe nor command any thing which we cannot perform in the manner it is proposed to us Quest What plain Rule will you give us to go by in this matter for we would willingly know the Truth and hearken to the Church Answ First in all Lawfull and in most doubtfull matters it is your duty to follow the command of your particular Church Quest But what must I do in things that seem to me contrary to the Word of God when such are commanded by my particular Church Answ The second Rule then I would give you is that if you think or are credibly told you ought not to joyn with your particular Church in this or that Doctrine or practice before you make a Schism enquire of learned Men what was the Sense of the Primitive Fathers and generall Councils and what is the generall opinion of other Churches and most learned Divines about it and be sure you have good Reason and Authority before you depart from your own Church in which you live and were Baptized Obj. This is the way to put me upon a tedious endless work more then either I or the Persons I consult will be ever able to go through Answ No no such matter the Sense and Consent of the Scripture and of the Church is so clear in all points of duty that People are concerned to know and practice and the Controversies are so few when rightly stated and understood that want to be decided in Order to your doing your duty that it will be no hard matter to receive full satisfaction for they are either such that have been long agoe decided or the Church is wholly silent about them and there is no evidence of Scripture to oblige you to depart from your particular Church upon that account Now consider in how many matters all Churches are agreed and the Controversies long agoe setled First against the Arrians and Socinians Consess August which are long agoe condemned for Hereticks and the Three Creeds that expound the Catholick Faith See my enquiry into the means of a happy union contrary to their perverse interpretations are generally received by all Churches So likewise the Anabaptists and Quakers who deny Infant Baprism are likewise condemned by all Churches and 't is the constant Doctrine of the Catholick Church and all Reformed Churches that to separate from their Lawfull Bishops upon the account of their requiring of them to joyn in stated Forms of Prayer and for enjoyning decent Ceremonies not contrary to the Word of God and thereupon to set up Altar against Altar and run into private meetings is that Schism condemned in the Holy Scriptures So that not only from the Holy Scriptures but from the interpretation of the Church it is most evident that they hold pernicious if not Damnable errours and in these points it will be an easie matter for every body to find satisfaction and to know the Churches Sense concerning them So that to joyn with such Dissenters and to profess their Doctrines is manifestly to oppose the Catholick Church as well as the Word of God Obj. But if you put us to enquire into the Ancient ways and consult the Sense of other Churches and give us that Rule for our direction in matters of Controversie we fear you have a design to lead us back to the Church of Rome for they talk much of the Church and the old Religion and tell us all the World is on their side Answ That is the great weakness of some to imagine so and by their speaking meanly of hearkning to the Authority of the Catholick Church make many Suspect indeed that the Church of God has been altogether corrupted and lost or else no where to be found for many Ages but in the Church of Rome Whereas if you will inquire of your Bishops and Divines of the Church of England they will tell you that the pretended Authority of the Pope and Church of Rome is contrary to the generall Councils rejected by the whole Church for the first Six Hundred Years and upwards and condemned by the major part of the Bishops and Christian Churches from the Apostles times to this very day nay the Church of Rome is the only Church by Name warned to take heed least she be Cut off from the Body of Christ as the Jews were Rom. 11. So that the Church of Rome is so far from being the Catholick Church that
Sense of the Catholick Church in all Ages and of all particular Churches at this day for Men to set up Altar against Altar and separate from their lawfull Governours without just reason is that Schism condemned by the Gospel and that there is no reason to separate from the Church of England I have sufficiently shewed by taking off all the Objections against her Communion Mr Baxter's Apology pag. 8. I know how unable the Separatists were to answer the many Arguments of the Famous Arth. Hildersham J. Paget W. Bradshaw Brightman John Ball and other old Nonconformists for the lawfulness of Communicating with our Parish-Churches in the Sacraments and the Liturgy I was exceedingly moved against Separation truely so called by considering 1. How contrary it is to the Principle of Christian-love 2. And how directly and certainly pernicious to the interest of the cause of Christ and his Church and of the Souls of Men and how powerful a means it is to kill that little Love that is left in the World 4. I was greatly moved in thinking of the State of most Churches in the World if I travelled into Ahassia Armenia Russia or among the Greek Churches I durst not deny to hold communion with them When I go to God in Prayer I dare not go in a separate capacity but as a Member of the Universal Church nor would I part with my share in the Common-Poayers of all the Churches for all the World And having perused all the Forreign and Ancient Liturgies extant in Bibliotheca Patrum I doubt not but our own is incomparably better then any that is there And consider what Mr Calvin says in this Case who does also own Bishops Liturgies and Symbolical Ceremonies as ours are no just Cause of separating from the Church viz. Institut l. 4. c. 1. n. 10. I have set down the Preaching of the Word and Administration of the Sacraments for the signs whereby to know the Church For where the Preaching of the Gospel is reverently heard and the Sacraments are not neglected there for that time is a certain face of a true Church and 't is lawfull for no Man without punishment to despise her Authority reject her Admonitions be refractory against her Counsels or mock at her Corrections much less may he separate from her and break her unity For our Lord does so highly esteem the Communion of his Church that he does reckon him for a Renegado and desertor of Religion that does obstinately separate from any Christian Society that does hold the true Ministry of the Word and Sacraments from whence it does follow that to depare from the Church is to deny God and Christ but how much the more ought we to take heed of such a wicked Schism for while we go about as much as in us lyes to destroy the Truth of God we deserve that God should thunder against us with the greatest force of his Wrath to break as in pieces If some Men of better understanding by their diligence get to a knowledge of the principal parts of their Duty yet the generality of People Children and Servants will be exposed to all Ignorance Errour and Profaness IN the constitution of the Church the very Order of the Service and the solemn times set apart to bless God for the particular dispensations of the Gospel such as the Incarnation of our Lord at the Feast of Annunciation commonly called our Lady-day his Birth at Christinas and so his Passion Resurrection Asconsion sending down the Holy Ghost the Feast of the Holy Trinity with other particular Seasons are a standing Catechism and with a little help will easily bring even Children to understand and remember all parts of their Duty and for their fuller instruction and admonition the Minister is to Catechise in the Afternoons and to teach those that are ignorant of these things and to put all others in mind to think upon and observe what they do already understand So that Persons that live in the Obedience of the Church must be stupidly careless of themselves if they want any thing necessary for their edification in Faith and Love and finally to attain Salvation and if any generally are ignorant of these things they are such who run away from their Governours and either through sloth or faction would not give themselves the trouble to hear and receive the sober advice of their Ministers and commands of the Church Then under the Churches discipline the admonition of the Bishops the reproof of their Minister good Neighbours and fellow Christians did reform many of these abuses and stir up others to a diligent attendance upon the publick Service But now all sorts of temporal punishments are in a manner Suspended if you by running into Conventicles teach your Children and Servants your Neighbours and Acquaintance to despise the Authority of their Bishops and Ministers and all the Spiritual discipline of the Church you will be a means to encourage Ignorance and Profaness and in a short time our People will fall into Atheism and Infidelity For many from your example taught to contemn the reproofs and censures of their Governours will not only neglect the Communion of the Church but all sort of exercise of Religion and so turn Pagans if not live altogether like brute Beasts Others that have as yet some sparks of the Sense of Religion in generall left in them yet running up and down from Place to Place from one Sect to another will be far from receiving that firm and setled understanding of the Grounds and Principles of Religion which is necessary to keep them steady in their Duty and to bulld them up to an Holy and Heavenly conversation So that you that withdraw your selves from the Communion of your Bishops and Ministers of the Church of England besides the great Sins of Disobedience Schism and contempt of the Church and the danger you run of Heresie and damnable errour you do by your pernicious example expose your Children and Servants and multitudes of your fellow Subjects to Ignorance Profaness Infidelity Atheism and so instead of advancing purer Religion you will bring the greatest part to no Religion at all and these things we could in a great measure prevent if you by running into Conventicles and despising the directions of your Governours did not give them occasion and encourage them to run away from the sober instruction of the Church Let me therefore in the Name of God and as I have the generall care and charge of your Souls and shall be ready to give any assistance and direction you stand in need of in your passage to Heaven prevail upon you to take these things into your serious consideration Religion is not a politick Engine to be used at pleasure only to serve Mens turns upon occasion and gratine their humour and keep up the interest of a party but 't is the revealed and unchangeable Will of God concerning our Salvation and therefore must in all things be
carefully performed according to the Rules of his Holy Word neither must we have an eye only to this or that particular Duty but have regard to all his Commandments Now Satan does often appear with strong delusions like an Angel of light and his instruments do with good words and fair Speeches deceive the hearts of the Simple and put many cheats and fallacies upon unwarie Souls to bring them into destruction But there are scarce any more weak and manifest then those that you have been hitherto abused withall and many of them now evidently false by your own confession as that we were all Papists we did worship Stocks and Stones were only morall Men without any dependance upon the Grace of God and the direction of his Holy Spirit And now these slanders are fully confuted they turn to other devices altogether as groundless and unreasonable as that 't is indifferent what manner of Governours Men live under in matters of Religion so they live Holy lives and that they in separating from the Church of England doe no more then she did in Reforming from the Church of Rome as if it were the same to have a publick Service that they do understand with having a publick Service they do not to have the use of their Bibles or not to have them to worship Images pray to Saints and Angels be content with half the Sacrament of the Lords Supper or not when our Lord requires the whole To omit many other errours And not only our Bishops and Clergy but Princes and Parliaments did all agree to Reform these abuses and settle our Church upon the sure foundations of Truth and Holiness according to the Word of God and constant Law and Order of the Catholick Church and there is not one duty of Piety to God Charity to your Neighbour and Obedience to the Catholick Church but you may better practice in the Church of England then in any other Society or Communion Deal seriously with your own Souls and Consciences What can you learn and practice in any Meeting that you cannot as well observe and be taught in the Church Will you then merely for Fancies and Humours expose your own Souls your Wifes and Children and the whole Nation to the danger of all Heresies and Schisms and bring so great a guilt and distraction upon your selves and Country If you are offended at the evil Lives of some of our Members do you come in and joyn with us and give them better example and by your Holy and Orderly conversation so strengthen our hands to their shame and amendment that we may all follow Peace and Holiness in this World and Reign with Joy and Glory in the World to come but if you still continue obstinate in your Separation consider how you will acquit your selves at the great Day of the guilt of Schism Contempt of Christ and his Ministers Disobedience to Parents and from being the sad occasion of those Heresies Profaness and Confusion that have been brought into the Church of God and that I do not say this as my own opinion only but that which was the fear and apprehension of Queen Elizabeth and the Parliament in the beginning of our Reformation we may learn from their Words wherein they did as it were by Prophesie foretell the miseries which since fell upon our Nation and were chiefly brought upon us by this Sin of Schism and neglect of resorting to the Church All and every Person and Persons inhabiting within this Realm or any other of the Queens Majesties Dominions 1 Eliz. 1. shall diligently and faithfully having no lawfull or reasonable excuse to be absent endeavour themselves to resort to their Parish Church or Chappel accustomed or upon reasonable let thereof to some usual place where Common-Prayer and such Service of God shall be used in such time of let upon every Sunday or other days Ordained and used to be kept as Holy-days and then and there to abide Orderly and Soberly during the time of the Common-Prayer Preachings or other Service of God there to be used and ministred upon pain of punishment by the censures of the Church And for the due execution hereof The Queens most excellent Majesty the Lords Temporal and all the Commons in this Parliament now assembled do in Gods Name earnestly require and charge all the Arch-Bishops Bishops and other Ordinaries that they shall endeavour themselves to the uttermost of their knowledges that the due and true execution hereof may be had throughout their Dioceses and Charges as they will answer before God for such evils and plagues wherewith Almighty God may justly punish his People for neglecting this good and wholesome Law Thô the mit ward Penalty be suspended in some Cases yet the Duty still remains and the reason is the same and we may mind Men of it But what miseries and calamities our Nation has suffered by the neglect hereof since that time need not be told the Men of this generation wish the hinderers of the due execution of this Law formerly that are left alive would in time consider and repent A Postscript to the CLERGY Reverend Brethren in Christ THE great business of our Lives as Clergy Men is so to instract and Rule our several Charges that we may be able to say with the great Apostle I am pure from the Blood of all Men Acts 20.26 27. for I have not shunned to declare to you all the whole Councel of God that will require a great deal of Care and Diligence but it is a Duty ought to be performed with our utmost endeavour and saw will it be if any should perish through the Ministers neglect 'T is true the Spiritual power Christ has given his Church is little understood and all her Authority is much slighted by too many in this Age and the many Divisions and Schisms will the rease this disesteem therefore 't is more necessary it should be vigoroussy asserted and maintained and the dangers and mischiess that are like to follow upon it should be discovered and laid open while in some measure they may be prevented For thô it may seem plausible to some and that there can be no harm now and then to hear a good Sermon at a Conventicle as well as in the Church yet in the end it will prove fatall to Religion to say no more what other evils will follow from such a practice if once espoused by Men of Interest and Quality as God be thanked commonly as yet it is not These things I have represented to you my Brethren at our Visitation and I doubt not but you have often urged the same to your several Charges but because things Read may be better weighed and considered and I can with the same pains inform all as a few I have sent these Papers the good effect whereof will in a great measure depend upon your further Discourses and Management in more fully enlarging upon and explaining the several particulars in your Catechising
Duty I Have made it evident beyond all doubt that there are Spiritual Governours appointed by Christ to continue to the end of the World and all Christian People must be under the Authority and Jurisdiction of some or other of those Ministers and that by direction of the Apostles and constant Law of the generall Councils and tradition of all Christian Churches and the Rules of Decency and Order all Countries that own the Christian Religion are generally divided into Provinces and Dioceses c. for the more peaceable management of all affairs Things being thus settled all those commands in Scripture that People ought to bearken to the Church obey them that have the Rule over them besides all those generall precepts Honour thy Father and Mother To know them that are over you in the Lord and admonish you to esteem them highly for their works sake c. do oblige all People here in England to obey their several Bishops and joyn in Communion with their respective Parishes and those that do obstinately withdraw themselves from their obedience do live in open contempt of Christ and manifest violation of his Holy Gospel which does require all Men to maintain Love and Charity especially with their Fathers and Governours and to keep the peace and unity of the Church All such Men that wilfully and obstinately continue in their Schism and disobedience are not only shut out from the priviledges and benefits of the Gospel but bring upon themselves all the curses and punishments denounced against such grievous Sinners for those that are disobedient to parents are reckoned up amongst the most heinous Offenders Rom. 1.30 2 Tim. 3.2 Consider therefore how you will answer it to God in the dreadfull day that do meerly neglect to joyn in the publick Service and Sacraments and thereby disobey your Spiritual Fathers and affront that Government which Christ has set in his Church for your good and as the means to promore his Glory and your Salvation 'T is not Man but God that you reject who gave us this Charge over your Souls and you do despite to the Holy Spirit of grace from whom we receive our Commission Besies the guilt of disobedience and contempl of Christs Ministers you that assemble in Conventicles are guilty of Schism which is a damning Sin and a root of all confusion AS nothing is more agreeable to the Nature of God then Love and Unity so nothing is more odious to his most Holy being then Schism and Division for the nature of Love is to unite all things in Peace and Order but the nature of Schism is to bring all things to misery and confusion Whatsoever therefore Schismaticks may pretend of Zeal for the glory of God their advancing Piety and setting up Religion in greater purity the Scripture calls such courses the works of the flesh and pronounces the Persons that follow them Men of carnal affections Rom. 16. Gal. 5. Those therefore that do not only withdraw from the obedience of their Lawfull Governours but set up separate Assemblies under colour of purer worship do plainly make a Schism in the Church and rend the Body of Christ in pieces and are marked out by the Holy Scrip tures for the grootest enemies of God and true Religion Our Saviour fays he that shall be angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the Judgment and he that says unto him Rache that is empty vain Fellow and so lighting and bringing his Person into contempt shall be in danger of the Gounoil but whosoever shall say thou fools shall be in danger of Hell fire Now if it be so heinous a crime in the sight of God to undervalue our Brother what is it to despise our Spiritual Fathers and contemn their godly commands and admonitions moreover to tear and divide the Church of Christ and instead of Love stirr up animosities and contentions strife and hatred as is too to evident and from thence do genenally follow Massacres Rebellions long and bloudy Wars Murder subversion of Kingdoms and States destruction of Countries and all the cruelties and miseries that Mankind are lyable unto As these things are manifest by experience so Scripture tells us Jude 18 19. they spring from Schism There shall be mockers in the last times who shall walk after their own ungodly lusts these be they that soparate themselves sensual having not the Spirit whereas none glory more of the Spirit then these Separatists whom the Apostle charges with carnal and ungodly Lusts Again Rom. 16.17 Mark those that cause Divisions and Offences contrary to the Doctrine which ye have Learned and avoid them for they that are such serve not the Lord Jesus Christ but their own helly and by good words and fair Speeches deceive the heart of the simple The Apostle pursues the same matter 1. Cor. 3.3 Lor ye are yet Carnall for whereas there is among you Envying and Strife and Divisions are ye not Carnal and walk as Men For while one saith I am Paul and another I am Apollos are ye not Carnall Again Galatians 5.20 reckoning up the works of the Elesh that shut Men out of Heaven he says the worke of the Flesh are manifest which are these he puts down Strife Seaitions or Schism and Divisions Heresies and then adds v. 21. They that do such things shall not in herit the Kingdome of God So that as Schism is an heinous Sin of its own nature so it proceeds from a carnal mind and that is the root of all other Evils and Disorders James 4.1 From whence come Wars and Fightings among you Come they not hence even of your Lusts that war in your members Lust breeds Division and Division breeds War and War brings all other evils with it especially civil and homebred Wars which spring from this root of Schism If none of these temporal evils follow upon Schism which God grant they may not yet Schism brings in Heresie Ignorance and Prophaness DID Men keep to the Rule of Gods word and follow the interpretation of the Catholick Church they would be secure from all danger of Heresie ignorance and profaness and would have a sure direction to lead them into the way of Salvation For all the Schisms Heresies and mistakes that Men sall into come by forsaking the guidance of the Church and wresting the Scripture to their own destruction which St Peter says many of the unlearned and unstable do 2 Pet. 3.16 So that in this case the Scripture may be compared to an Apothecaries shop full of all fort of wholesome Medicines if rightly applyed with judgement and discretion but such as will prove deadly poyson if taken at adventure and misimployed Now our Saviour has given us the Scriptures for our direction which with much study and pains we may understand our selves for our own benefit and instruction yet because few Men who are engaged in worldly pleasures and business c. do give themselves so much leisure as
she is a very corrupt part of it and those of that Communion that amongst us set up separate Assemblies do oppose the constant tradition of the Catholick Church the Canons of the generall Councils and follow a private Spirit and are as proper Schismaticks as any of our Fanaticks and Dissenters Obj. But those of the Church of Rome do not only charge us with Disobedience to the Pope but with Heresie and false Doctrine in rejecting many Articles of Faith and other Ancient practices of the Church Answ But if you will consult your Bishops and Ministers they will make it appear that the Points we reject are so far from being Articles of Faith and ancient practices that they are Moddern errours and corruptions not known to or else condemned by the Primitive Church and this we may see evidently made out by severall late Writings and Disputes Obj. I am glad to hear you say the Catholick Church does plainly condemn the Usurpations and Errours of the Church of Rome as well as the Scriptures which seem plainly against them and we think against many Orders of the Church of England also that are meer Humane inventions if not old Popish Superstitions which we cannot Lawfully joyn withall and therefore are forced to serve God in such a Manner as we can and which we think is better pleasing to Him thô in separate Congregations Answ Humane Inventions and Popish Superstitions are frightfull words indeed but so you must remember are Slanderers Schismaticks Hereticks and disobedient to Parents c. as all those are that accuse the Church and cannot prove what they say Obj. But our Preachers have told us that these Orders of the Church are Popish Anti-christian c. and therefore our Consciences would condemn us if we should comply with them Answ But will you run into so great Sins against the plain Word of God because your Preachers tell you so I thought the Word of God had been your Rule but now I perceive you follow your Preachers against the Word of God and will not obey your Governours according to it Obj. We think our Preachers are Good and Holy Men and Teach us the Truth Answ Why should you not have as good an opinion of your Bishops and Ministers But when the Preachers take upon them thus to draw you into Schism Disobedience and teach you to have uncharitable thoughts of your Governours and to condemn the Church and fellow Christians you ought to suspect if not their honesty yet their Judgment and Discretion for they are Men and may be transported by Passion and Interest or else through errour and mistake and lead you into heinous Sins For why should you think them wiser and better then all other Divines Obj. But I hope still they teach us right Answ But it is not enough to say you hope you must be sure the Governours of the Church are in the wrong or else you are in a most miserable condition to run your selves into so many Sins and dangers by separating from them Obj. But my Conscience tells me I am in the right Answ But 't is not your Conscience will excuse you unless you have some Command of God to build upon Now turn your Bible over and over you will not find any thing in the Scripture against any duty required by the Church Obj. But pray where have you any Command of God for your Common-Prayer and Ceremonies Answ We are commanded in Scripture to make Prayers and Supplications for all Men 1 Tim. 2.1 and to see that all things be done Decently and in Order and since the Words and Ceremonies are not determined in Scripture 't is better the Governours should consider and make Rules and Orders then to leave it to every bodies Fancy so that we have command in Scripture for what we do But pray where have you any command of God for your irreverent Prayers and disorder in Gods service Obj. Why do you call our Prayers and Service irreverent and disorderly Answ Because they are so and cannot be generally otherwise for when every Preacher is to follow his own heated and Rambling fancy and every Hearer is lest to Sit or Kneel or Stand or Lye along to put on his Hat or put it off what can commonly be expected but irreverence and disorder Obj. As for these Modes Gestures and Postures which you call Irreverent we matter not them Answ But thô you matter them not yet the Scripture does require all things should be done Decently and in Order 1 Cor. 14.40 and we find that our Saviour and his Apostles did kneel down and shew all outward Reverence and therefore we think the Church of England has good reason to require People to imitate their examples in behaving themselves Reverently and Orderly when they are in the House of God and not let their Service be more rude there then when they are at their houses at home so that nothing is commanded in this kind but what civility and good breeding would teach Men to observe and for which we have the command of God and the example of Christ and his Apostles and other Holy Men. Obj. Perhaps it would be better if People were more Reverent at their Meetings Answ But how can that be expected when all your Prayers and the whole Performance is left to the Arbitrary pleasure and discretion of every Preacher amongst you who are Men and those none of the ablest neither and may err and be ignorant Obj. But we think they Pray by the Spirit Answ What do you mean by Praying by the Spirit do you mean that the Holy Ghost does put all those words immediately into their Mouths and so they use no other Prayers but what are dictated by the Holy Ghost Obj. We do think so and our Preachers keep us up in that belief Answ But how do they prove this For if that be true all their Prayers are as Divine and Infallible as the Word of God it self For the Holy Ghost is as Infallible now as when he did guide the Apostles to write the Holy Scriptures But it is evident to all the World that these Prayers are often so far from being Divine that they sometimes are such as scarce become a sober Man Therefore you may see what Men your Preachers are that abuse you in this manner and cheat you with false stories if your Preachers are dictated by any Spirit 't is generally by the Spirit of delusion for it is not to be thought that the Holy Ghost will work a Miracle at every Conventicle to inspire every dissenting Preacher when ordinary gifts are sufficient not only for such but much more excellent Prayers And any One that will but attend those Meetings and weigh their Prayers with Judgment will find more of the errour and weakness of the Man then of the least evidence of the Holy Spirit Obj. But we have heard other Men Pray and Preach but could never find so much satisfaction and comfort as
and private discourses and if you can throughly convince your Parishioners that they ought to forsake all other Meetings and joyn in the Communion of the Church of England and that they are bound to reverence you as Christs Officers established by the Catholick Church as really you are while you are regularly Constituted and faithfully discharge your Places they will easily hearken to you in all other Duties Many perhaps will read these Papers that will not look into a Church But the design of this Discourse is not only to shew them the necessity of adhering to the outward Communion of the Church but to let them see how much Religion in generall and the publick Peace and quiet of Conference is concerned in it if they will goe upon good grounds also that either through Ignorance or Errour they are like to loose the main Principles of the Gospel My first desire therefore is that you would take care in Expounding to your Flook those Articles Rubricks and Canons which concern Faith Hope and Charity and the essential Duties of the Gospel and then upon occasion not always dwelling upon Matters of Discipline let them know how usefull and necessary these things are so preserve the unity of the Spirit in the Bond of Peace and in righteousness of Life and be sure not to neglect those Laws that ãâã Catechizing and Expounding the same for the instruction of Old and Young according to their several Capacities and I desire you to consider what weight this Church has layd upon Catechizing as well before as since the Reformation and see the fundamental Principles seriously imprinted upon the Peoples minds which you find * Quilibet sacerdos plebi praesidens quater in anno vel per sevel per alium exponat populo vulgariter absque cujuslibet subtilitatistextura Phantastica quatuordecem fidei articulos decem mandata decalogi duo precepta evangelii viz. geminae charitatis septem opera misericordiae septem peccata mortalla cum sua progenie septem virtutes principales ac gratiae Sacramenta Idem de officio Archidiacon cap. Vt Archid. Vt Archidiaconi quotiens Presbyteros invenerint statutis temporibus populo minime haec omnia praedicasse sen publicasse totiens eos arguant poena canonica castigando supplere compellant quae temerè omiserunt Linwood Provincial lib. 1. de officio Archipresbyteri c. ãâ¦ã And then stir them up to shew their Faith by their good works in frequenting the Publick Prayers and Sacraments and leading Holy Lives answerable to their Profession For if they really are or desire to be good Christians and Members of the Church of England they must not only rely upon talking and outward Profession but sincerely observe the Rules and Orders of the Church both by themselves and Families There has been a great outcry made against many Pious and Learned Divines under the Name of High Church-Men c. and others have been magnified as more rational and moderate Men but all that I could see the Church-Men aimed at was Jud. 3. earnestly to contend for the Faith once delivered to the Saints in opposition to Insidels and Hereticks and so to preserve the Purity of the Gospel and to keep a Decency and Reverence in the worship of God and I appeal to the experience of the Nation where the Publick Prayers and Sacraments are more devoutly offered up and frequented and what Congregations shew the most Religious behaviour in the Church And since 't is the Gospel by which we must be Judged at the last day there is no other way Philip. 1.27 to appear with hope before God then having your Conversation as becomes the Gospel of Christ Now all these Orders of the Church which are contended for are only applying the Rules of Gods Word as may most tend to edification and to direct Men in the particular circumstances of each Ones Duty and without some such Orders and observance of them I do not see how Men can keep up a publick Worship of God without being a Scandal to Infidels and Sober Christians and why the Ancient Rules and Customs of the Church should be thought an offence I cannot understand nor how the taking them away can advance Piety in the Nation These Books I commit to your Hands and desire you to lend them about in your several Parishes and make the best use of them you can for the benefit of those that you have any hopes will be the better by them And put them in mind to read and observe the Directions in the former Book FINIS
were removed by Ordination and orderly appointment to his Charge But yet farther to keep peace and prevent confusion there must be some Canons or Rules to retain every Man within the bounds of his duty that one might not disturb another or undoe what another had done Now about chusing of Bishops and about excommunicating Offenders Bishops may vary in their opinion as it is known they often have done one may be for this Man and another for that and unless there be some Rule to proceed by there will be endless Cuarrels and Disputes therefore the general Rule of Decency and Order must come in here and we must consider what direction the Scripture has given in this Case also Now besides the Rule of common Prudence that amongst Governours of all Societies if they cannot otherwise compose any difference they must sit down by the Authority of the major part the Apostle tells us The Spirits of the Prophets are subject to the Prophets for God is not the Author of Confusion but of Peace as in all the Churches of the Saints 1. Cor. 14. much more then particular Bishops and Ministers ought to be subject to the rest of the Bishops Then the general Rule of our Saviour is If he refuse to hear the Church let him be unto Thee as an Heathen man and a Publican not only no longer an Officer but not so much as a member of the Church Now all Bishops being Governours of the Church and Successors of the Apostles one as well as another has right to judge in Cases that concern the peace and welfare thereof but it is impossible they can all meet or be consulted in ordinary Cases and therefore as in the Civil state for better Order and convenience in administration of Justice or preserving Peace the World is divided into Kingdoms Provinces Counties Cities c. And the respective Governours have the certain bounds and limits of their jurisdiction and every one is to take care of all things within his own charge and not to intermeddle or thrust himself into another Countrey or Province So by direction from the Apostles the Bishops did by mutual consent set out the bounds of every Man's jurisdiction according to Cities and Provinces and Civil States have confirmed the same in after Ages Thus St James was Bishop of Jerusalem St Peter at Antioch St Mark at Alexandria St Andrew at Byzantium now Constantinople St Timothy at Ephesus and Titus at Crete c. And after them other single Persons did succeed in their places as we see it is at this Day as one Bishop dyes another is chosen and Ordained to succeed in his Office And as a City with the neighbouring Countries round it did make one Bishops Diocess so several Cities and their adjoyning Villages did make one Province under one Arch-Bishop And all matters that did concern the Church were to be determined by the mutual consent of the Arch-Bishop and of all or the major part of the Bishops of each Province and this was the Order derived from the Apostles confirmed by the general Councils S. Cypr. Ep. 68. can A post concil Nice and generally observed through all Ages of the Church As for the Authority of Patriarchs and of late years the usurpation of the Pope these are all incroachments upon the Church and so are the Assemblies of Presbyters without or in opposition to their Bishops much more the root of all confusion an independencie of every Preacher in each single Congregation and deviations from the Ancient and Apostolical Order S. Cyprian Ep. 55. concil African can 28. The standing and generall Law and Tradition was that which best suits with the rules of Decency and Order that Christians should not be drawn from their own Country should not be put to long and tedious journies but have all Matters ended at home by the Arch-Bishop and Bishops of each Province amongst themselves who best know the state and condition of the People committed to their charge and are bound by interest as well as duty to consult the peace and welfare of their Dioceses 'T is needless to cite the Canons See the 6 gen Councils and particular Councils confirmed by them the case is known to all Schollars that look into the antient Councils and Histories of the Church And according to this universal Order of the Church 't is as easie for every one to know his own Spiritual Governours as 't is his Civil Every Ones charge is allotted and all within such bounds and limits belong to the Spiritual Government of the Bishop of the Diocess and his Assistants and Minister of the Parish where he lives and thus 't is in all Kingdoms and Countries where the Christian Religion is professed and this Order and Authority all sober Divines do own and acknowledge But still it is with this limitation provided they hold the Faith and Unity of the Catholick Church and keep within the Rules of the Gospel For all Bishops and others are members of Provincial Churches and must be subject to the Rules and Order of the Province and all Provinces are members of the Catholick Church and must keep the unity of Faith of Christs mystreal body In rites and ceremonies and private opinions in lesser matters particular Churches may differ one from another and each Province or Nation may consult and provide that which is best for themselves but then as to Faith and other necessary duties that must be the same all over the World and nothing must be done contrary to the Laws of Christian Charity and that mutual Love that we ought to have for all our Brethren in Christ much less ought we to do any thing contrary to that duty we owe to our Spiritual Fathers that are set over us by the Holy Ghost Acts 20. and to the peace and settlement of the Catholick and our own particular Church or Parish Now I cannot see what temptation any rational Man that wishes well to the promoting of the glory of God and advancement of true Religion can have to change this antient Apostolical Order of a Synod of Bishops governing according to the Rules of the Ancient Church and with the assistance of their Presbyters for a Synod of Presbyters only according to the late Modell of Mr Calvin invented at Geneva Or what benefit the People would have by it who must still be left to the Minister of their own Parish neither would they find themselves in a better but worse condition Much less should make a Schism to inforce and bring in such a novelty and invasion upon their Spiritual Fathers and Brethren in Christ or else to destroy all Church Govenment as the Independants Anabaptists and Quakers do who set up Plow men and Thatchers instead of Bishops and Priests All Persons in this Nation are bound to joyn in Communion with their Bishop of the Diocess and Minister of the Parish where they live and the great sin of those that neglect this
we do from these Men. Answ Perhaps their passionate way of speaking their Noise with now and then an affected Sigh and Groan may stir up a present passion in you as a good Actor at a Play does who can make the People cry and laugh when he will I hope therefore you will not say that the Actor is moved by the Spirit and those are all made Godly People that are thus moved and affected as to burst into Tears so that if you Judge of the soundness of your Religion by such outward Passions I fear the Player when he sets about it will make you believe he is the most Sanctified Preacher Setting then aside this which is no argument of the working of the Holy Spirit but an act of the Man and all the efficacy is lost in an hour or Two assoon as you come into Company or are taken up with business and other affairs You must not therefore Judge of your Religion by a sudden passion but by your sound understanding and steady performing all parts of your Duty Obj. But this cannot be a sudden Passion only in me but must be a real work of the Holy Spirit because I find a great change in my Life I am grown more sober read and meditate upon Gods Word and mind Religion more then I did before Answ But that is no Argament that you are in a safe way so long as you continue in Schism for when the Devil did find he could no longer ruine your Soul by open prophaness he now may tempt you to more secret Sins to more Spiritual wickedness which are as heinous in the sight of God and as dangerous to your Salvation Obj. We have satisfied our selves all along upon these accounts Answ But you see they are weak grounds to rely upon for all this while thô you are Zealous for some you may be wanting in many other necessary duties and you are guilty of Schism disobedience to Parents destroy all Discipline and Order in the Church encourage Atheism and Prophaness and endanger the safety both of Church and State meerly upon fancies and humours for I can call it no other because there is not One good thing that you can learn and observe there that you cannot as well have and practice in the communion of the Church Besides you act against the Sense of the Primitive Church and all other Churches in the World Obj. If it be so we are much mistaken and greatly abused by our Ministers Answ It is certainly so and while you follow such blind and erring guides no wonder if you fall into destruction Obj. We have been told by our Preachers and therefore did verily believe that the Ancient Church were Papists and when the Divines of the Church of England did talk to us of following the Doctrine and Government of the Ancient Church we thought it was only with a design to prepare the way to bring us to Popery Answ Now I hope you are satisfied that the Church of England is no wayes inclining to Popery but does endeavour to teach you your Duty according to the Holy Scriptures and further to confirm the Truth and soundness of their interpretation of Gods Word by the Doctrine of the Primitive Church and the generall Councils and tradition of the Catholick Church And this you may see if you read their late Writings they do as heartily maintain against the Church of Rome as they did before against the other Dissenters and Fanaticks Obj. I am very well satisfied now that the Men of the Church of England are far from being Papists but you tell me that all other Reformed Churches do approve of the Church of England and are ready to joyn with her in communion and condemn those for Schismaticks that set up separate Congregations Answ Yes I do so and if you will but advise with your Bishops and Ministers they will easily be able to prove it to your satisfaction You may read much to this purpose in my Evangelical and Catholick unity where you have the opinions of Luther Melancthon Bucer and Calvin in their own words to this purpose Obj. Then therein I perceive our Teachers have greatly abused us also Indeed I find many rational and sober Men of the Church of England and I believe there may be a great deal of Truth in what you say but yet they are of such a persecuting spirit that they will let no body live quietly by them that are not of their perswasion which we think to be a very ill temper not becoming the moderation of the Gospel Answ It is a sad thing that the Church of England which is the most gentle and moderate and does disclaim all cruelty and hard usage upon the account of Religion should now be accounted the greatest Persecutor as I perceive she is at this time People strangely forget themselves and the opinions and practices of their own Party when they lay such an accusation upon the Church of England which does disown any power of temporal punishment Obj. But there were many Statutes that did inflict severe penalties upon Dissenters Answ These are made by the State for the security of the Government for they finding Dissenters generally enemies to the publick Peace and endeavouring changes and alterations by Mutiny and Sedition saw it necessary by Penal Laws to restrain them from growing too numerous and to keep them within the bounds of their duty Obj. But does not the Church of England then allow of Penal Statutes Answ In a moderate way she does to make Men hear and consider but not to undoe them Obj. But surely Men need not to be used like Children they have discretion to mind their duty without being stirred up by punishments Answ They should have so but 't is plain that they have not Rom. 13. and therefore God Almighty has placed Governours and Officers to be a terrour to evil doers and a praise and an honour to them that do well and mind their duty Obj. Yes if punishments were inflicted on evil doers we should like that well but they punish Godly People because they will not go against their Conscience Answ Do you account then all the Idle Lazy people that lye at home and sleep or else sit drinking at Ale-houses in time of Divine Service and will never so much as take pains to understand their Catechism and bring their Children to be instructed in the Grounds of the Christian Religion Godly People Now 't is evident these idle and ignorant People unless they be stirred up by punishment will never give themselves the trouble to understand and do their duty and so will ruine their own and their Childrens Souls Obj. If you did punish only such idle and lazy People that did live like Heathens and require them and their Children to hear and do their duty no sober Man but must approve of such Discipline and will say such People deserve to be punished But you punish Godly People that do read
and meditate upon the holy Scriptures and take pains to know and do their duty thô they do not conform to the Church of England Answ The Laws are made in generall for all that absent themselves from the publick Service for else all idle People would excuse themselves under that pretence of being Dissenters Besides many are Dissenters not out of Conscience but out of Pride Humour and for temporal advantage and so run into Heresie Schism and Destruction It is all the reason in the World that such carnall affections should be restrained and Men obliged to hear and consider the sober Instruction of the Church and the design of all punishments is to that purpose that men might not neglect their duty out of humour and laziness c. Obj. You will not allow then that the Church of England is a persecuting Church Answ No by no means no body can with any colour say that of Her she does advise all Magistrates to use that wholesome Discipline which God has appointed and which all Holy and Religious Magistrates have executed to oblige People to hear and consider For as all Parents are bound to teach and correct their Children if they be disorderly so all Christian Magistrates as they are common Fathers of their Countrey ought to see their Children instructed in the principles of true Religion and have a right to punish their unruly and disorderly Children accordingly there are Laws for that purpose which when executed as they ought to be bring Peace and Holyness to a Nation thô in the executing them there is great prudence and moderation to be used which the Governours are to take into their Consideration Obj. But why do you say the Church of England is the most moderate Church in the World Answ Because she like the true Mother is for correcting and not destroying her disorderly Children Obj. Surely those that now cry up Toleration and talk of liberty of Conscience when and where they had power were not for putting to death and exterminating those that did differ from them Answ Yes you may read lamentable Stories of the cruelty of the Anabaptists in Germany and I need not tell of the cruelties and Murders committed by others who would be representing the Church of England for a persecuting Church I shall not name particulars inquire and you will easily satisfie your selves that the Church of England does but advise such moderate discipline as Fathers ought to exercise over their Children when the Dissenters are generally not satisfied but with blood and destruction Obj. I cannot say but you speak a great deal of reason in the defence of the Church of England and I perceive many good Men think it no harm to joyn with her upon occasion but they think they may also goe and hear a good Sermon in a Meeting Answ But is not that to set up a Schism and plainly to make a fraction in the Church and it is encouraging Children to think meanly of and to despise their own Ministers Parents and Masters for what is it but the very case that St. Paul blames in the Corinthians that one was for Paul another for Apollos another for Cephas for thô a Dissenter may Preach well yet when he does it in opposition to the Church without any call and does draw People into parties it is that Schism which is condemned by the Scripture and will bring all those mischiefs that I have already spoken of and does plainly teach People to despise their Governours Ministers and fellow Christians Obj. But why do you say those Preachers have no call Answ Because most of them have no Ordination and if they had they have no Licence and Authority from the Bishops and Governours and so by the Law of Christ and the constant Rule of the Church they have no power to Preach for how shall they Preach except they be sent If they were Ordained they ought not to thrust themselves into another Mans charge Obj. Thô they have no outward Call from the Church yet they are sent by Jesus Christ Answ How do you prove that Obj. Because we find them endned with excellent gifts and Christ did not bestow such Talents to be hid in a napkin Answ Gifts are no Argument that a Man has a Lawfull call for a Heretick or a Schismatick may have Gifts and use them to divide and destroy the Church Therefore as none must Preach without a call so if any that are called turn Heretick or Schismatick he may be silenced again Titus 1.10 for besides gifts there must be a sober and orderly Conversation sound profession Obedience to the Orders of the Church and if this Method were not observed and Men tied to be Peaceable and Cuiet and subject to their respective Governours the Church would be the most confused Society in the World Obj. I confess Ministers ought to be quiet and peaceable Men and they ought to promote Love and Unity Answ But after this way of running into Conventicles there can be neither Love nor Unity nor holiness in the Church for one Preacher will be setting up in opposition to another and Sects and Divisions will daily increase And you see by experience Schismaticks differ one from another as they do from the Church and then fall a censuring and condemning one another as much as they did the Church and thence proceed Hatred Strife endless Quarrels and Contentions and Heresies Ignorance and Profaness overspread the Nation and all these mischiefs come upon us because Men will not submit to that Order and Government that Christ has set in his Church but after their own lusts heap to themselves Teachers having isching Ears 2 Tim. 4.3 Now the Scripture says Men that thus oppose the Peace and Order of the Church must have their mouths stopped Tit. 1.10 11. But if they are not stopped all good Christians ought to avoid having any thing to do with them Rom. 16. Obj. Then I perceive you would take away the liberty of Conscience granted by the Act of Parliament Answ The Act of Parliament is only to free you from the punishment that might be inflicted upon you by Law on your Body or Estate and is equally extended to Anabaptists Quakers and other Hereticks and almost Persons of all Perswasions whatsoever and to keep them quiet as to the State under their perverse humours and therefore was never meant to lead you to the way of Salvation or to warrant them to be good Christians and my design is rightly to inform your Conscience and perswade you not to use this liberty for a Cloak of maliciousness and to take this opportunity to run from the truth is the way to bring upon your selves everlasting destruction as many do that forsake the Church of England Obj. Do you think then we are in such a dangerous condition Answ It is not for me to pronounce Sentence upon any One as to the other World but according to the Rules of Gods Word and the constant