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papist_n ordinary_o rebaptize_v not_o though_o they_o say_v some_o monk_n have_v do_v it_o as_o elsewhere_o i_o have_v cite_v the_o donatist_n be_v episcopal_a ceremonious_a separatist_n that_o do_v it_o on_o the_o account_n of_o a_o pure_a episcopal_a succession_n till_o their_o day_n the_o holy_a doctor_n of_o the_o church_n have_v almost_o all_o be_v against_o draw_v the_o sword_n against_o heretic_n even_o augustin_n himself_o but_o the_o greatness_n of_o their_o party_n and_o the_o proud_a conceit_n of_o their_o great_a zeal_n and_o strictness_n than_o the_o catholic_n have_v make_v they_o so_o furious_a that_o the_o catholic_n pastor_n can_v not_o live_v quiet_o by_o they_o insomuch_o that_o some_o of_o they_o wound_v the_o minister_n in_o the_o street_n and_o some_o of_o they_o make_v a_o salt_n sharp_a water_n and_o spout_v into_o minister_n eye_n as_o they_o pass_v the_o street_n to_o put_v out_o their_o eye_n till_o many_o such_o insolence_n provoke_v augustin_n to_o change_v his_o judgement_n of_o toleration_n and_o especial_o the_o multitude_n seduce_v by_o they_o and_o the_o bishop_n to_o crave_v the_o emperor_n aid_n the_o emperor_n make_v edict_n for_o mulct_n and_o banishment_n to_o those_o that_o persevere_v this_o be_v a_o new_a way_n so_o exasperate_v the_o donatist_n that_o in_o very_a passion_n many_o of_o they_o yea_o bishop_n murder_v themselves_o to_o bring_v odium_fw-la on_o the_o catholic_n to_o make_v the_o people_n believe_v that_o the_o cruelty_n of_o the_o catholic_n compel_v they_o to_o it_o and_o this_o be_v the_o state_n of_o these_o two_o party_n but_o not_o a_o word_n of_o difference_n about_o infant-baptism_n between_o they_o that_o ever_o i_o read_v in_o either_o part_n §_o 10._o the_o controversy_n between_o austin_n and_o they_o he_o thus_o state_v lib._n 1._o c._n 1_o 2._o si_fw-mi haberi_fw-la foris_fw-la potest_fw-la etiam_fw-la dari_fw-la cur_n non_fw-la potest_fw-la baptism_n receive_v out_o of_o the_o catholic_n or_o 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not_o receive_v they_o though_o we_o approve_v not_o of_o their_o way_n §_o 30._o and_o be_v it_o in_o my_o power_n as_o a_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n i_o will_v give_v satisfaction_n by_o such_o a_o answerable_a profession_n as_o this_o though_o it_o be_v our_o judgement_n that_o infant_n have_v ever_o be_v member_n of_o god_n visible_a church_n since_o he_o have_v a_o church_n and_o there_o be_v infant_n in_o the_o world_n and_o do_v believe_v that_o christ_n have_v signify_v in_o the_o gospel_n that_o it_o be_v his_o gracious_a will_n that_o they_o shall_v still_o be_v so_o and_o that_o he_o that_o command_v mat._n 28.19_o go_v you_o and_o disciple_n all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o will_v have_v his_o minister_n endeavour_v according_o to_o do_v it_o and_o have_v hereby_o make_v baptism_n the_o regular_a orderly_a way_n of_o solemn_a entrance_n into_o a_o visible_a church_n state_n and_o therefore_o we_o devote_v this_o child_n to_o god_n in_o the_o baptismal_a covenant_n yet_o 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swell_v into_o self-conceit_n and_o trouble_v the_o church_n with_o a_o mistake_n wrangle_a hurtful_a sort_n of_o zeal_n §_o 33._o and_o as_o i_o must_v needs_o believe_v as_o ill_o of_o some_o sort_n of_o zeal_n as_o st._n james_n have_v speak_v of_o it_o jam._n 3._o and_o experience_n have_v too_o long_o tell_v the_o world_n of_o it_o yet_o i_o take_v it_o for_o true_o amiable_a in_o man_n that_o they_o have_v a_o love_n and_o zeal_n for_o truth_n in_o general_n and_o a_o hatred_n to_o that_o which_o they_o think_v to_o be_v against_o it_o and_o that_o their_o bitterness_n against_o the_o truth_n and_o i_o be_v upon_o a_o supposition_n that_o both_o be_v against_o the_o truth_n and_o god_n for_o this_o bear_v they_o witness_v that_o they_o have_v a_o zeal_n of_o god_n though_o it_o be_v not_o according_a to_o knowledge_n and_o if_o they_o know_v truth_n indeed_o they_o will_v be_v zealous_a for_o it_o §_o 34._o i_o conclude_v with_o this_o notice_n to_o the_o contrary_n mind_v that_o 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they_o have_v will_v that_o prove_v that_o the_o novatian_o be_v seven_o hundred_o or_o eight_o hundred_o year_n before_o §_o 29._o next_o he_o cit_v as_o cassander_n reason_n against_o he_o that_o the_o donatist_n be_v for_o infant-baptism_n the_o six_o council_n of_o carthage_n say_v that_o all_o that_o return_v from_o the_o donatist_n shall_v be_v receive_v into_o the_o catholic_n church_n without_o rebaptisation_n though_o baptize_v in_o infancy_n and_o say_v it_o be_v but_o a_o supposition_n at_o best_a that_o they_o may_v be_v baptize_v in_o infancy_n or_o they_o may_v not_o and_o can_v signify_v nothing_o against_o all_o the_o former_a evidence_n and_o be_v it_o not_o shame_n and_o pity_n that_o so_o public_a matter_n of_o fact_n must_v be_v handle_v at_o this_o rate_n what_o be_v his_o former_a evidence_n but_o such_o as_o humane_a nature_n may_v blush_v at_o to_o find_v that_o one_o call_v a_o man_n and_o a_o christian_a and_o too_o good_a for_o the_o communion_n of_o such_o 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the_o asian_a legion_n or_o who_o else_o be_v not_o know_v and_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o they_o be_v not_o against_o the_o observation_n of_o easter_n for_o both_o they_o and_o the_o scot_n that_o concur_v with_o they_o against_o the_o roman_n do_v strict_o keep_v it_o but_o all_o the_o question_n be_v of_o the_o due_a time_n §_o 31._o nor_o be_v there_o the_o least_o proof_n or_o probability_n that_o they_o be_v against_o infant_n baptism_n 1._o because_o augustine_n the_o monk_n that_o quarrel_v with_o they_o never_o charge_v they_o with_o it_o in_o his_o ep._n to_o gregory_n or_o to_o themselves_o 2._o beda_n that_o be_v downright_o against_o they_o and_o a_o roman_a zealot_n and_o the_o ancient_a writer_n after_o augustine_n time_n and_o live_v in_o the_o same_o country_n with_o they_o and_o know_v they_o and_o describe_v all_o the_o contest_v with_o they_o yet_o never_o lay_v any_o such_o thing_n to_o their_o charge_n when_o yet_o he_o mention_v the_o rebaptise_v of_o one_o by_o bishop_n john_n because_o it_o be_v a_o ignorant_a insufficient_a man_n for_o the_o priesthood_n that_o baptise_a him_z and_o this_o a_o rare_a instance_n 3._o the_o scot_n that_o about_o easter_n and_o other_o contrariety_n to_o the_o roman_n be_v of_o the_o britain_n mind_n and_o refuse_v so_o much_o as_o to_o eat_v with_o the_o roman_n yet_o be_v charge_v with_o no_o such_o thing_n 4._o and_o the_o controversy_n continue_v for_o above_o a_o hundred_o year_n after_o augustine_n time_n and_o great_a stir_n and_o meeting_n and_o dispute_n be_v about_o it_o as_o beda_n tell_v we_o at_o large_a before_o the_o scot_n be_v change_v and_o in_o all_o that_o time_n there_o will_v have_v be_v opportunity_n for_o their_o forward_a adversary_n especial_o wilfrid_n afterward_o st._n boniface_n of_o mentz_n who_o be_v the_o chief_a to_o have_v find_v out_o this_o matter_n of_o accusation_n 5._o none_o of_o the_o historian_n near_o follow_v those_o time_n do_v charge_v any_o such_o thing_n on_o they_o and_o yet_o be_v the_o old_a britain_n against_o infant-baptism_n §_o 32._o but_o to_o put_v all_o out_o of_o doubt_n take_v the_o word_n of_o austin_n to_o they_o in_o his_o three_o demand_n thus_o by_o beda_n record_v eccl._n hist_o li._n 2._o c._n 2._o ut_fw-la pascha_fw-la svo_fw-la tempore_fw-la celebretis_fw-la ut_fw-la ministerium_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la quo_fw-la deo_fw-la renascimur_fw-la juxta_fw-la morem_fw-la romae_fw-la sanctae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la et_fw-la apostolicae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la compleatis_fw-la ut_fw-la genti_fw-la anglorum_fw-la una_fw-la nobiscum_fw-la praedicetis_fw-la verbum_fw-la domini_fw-la that_o be_v 1._o that_o you_o celebrate_v easter_n at_o the_o due_a time_n 2._o that_o you_o complete_a the_o ministry_n of_o baptism_n by_o which_o we_o be_v bear_v again_o to_o god_n according_a to_o the_o fashion_n or_o manner_n of_o the_o holy_a church_n of_o rome_n and_o the_o apostolical_a church_n 3._o that_o you_o preach_v with_o we_o the_o word_n 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be_v false_a that_o the_o old_a britain_n be_v against_o infant-baptism_n it_o will_v inform_v these_o man_n that_o it_o be_v not_o delay_v baptism_n till_o ripe_a age_n that_o will_v keep_v it_o from_o formality_n nor_o the_o church_n from_o fall_v into_o all_o impiety_n for_o if_o our_o elder_a historian_n gildas_n may_v be_v believe_v and_o who_o may_v if_o not_o he_o his_o countryman_n the_o britain_n be_v prince_n priest_n and_o people_n fall_v to_o such_o abominable_a wickedness_n murder_n drunkenness_n filthy_a lust_n deceit_n theft_n cruelty_n etc._n etc._n that_o he_o take_v the_o prince_n for_o wolf_n and_o monster_n and_o the_o priest_n for_o no_o priest_n but_o traitor_n except_v some_o good_a man_n among_o they_o etc._n etc._n it_o be_v neither_o infant_n nor_o adult_n baptism_n that_o will_v secure_v against_o the_o corrupt_a of_o church_n but_o grace_n with_o either_o have_v save_v soul_n §_o 34._o he_o cite_v himself_o here_o fox_n quote_v beda_n polychron_n and_o other_o and_o what_o say_v they_o baptise_v after_o the_o manner_n of_o rome_n and_o what_o be_v that_o to_o his_o question_n but_o he_o tell_v you_o that_o faâ—â—an_n say_v that_o you_o give_v christendom_n to_o child_n i_o have_v not_o fabian_n to_o examine_v but_o if_o he_o do_v when_o he_o know_v that_o he_o be_v a_o empty_a fâ—llow_n of_o the_o other_o day_n as_o it_o be_v and_o that_o he_o have_v nothing_o but_o what_o come_v from_o gregory_n and_o beda_n and_o that_o in_o they_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n will_v a_o kâ—â—wn_a falsification_n of_o a_o 〈◊〉_d about_o nine_o hundred_o year_n after_o disprove_v the_o yet_o visible_a word_n of_o the_o 〈…〉_z which_o undertake_v to_o give_v you_o not_o only_o the_o seâ—se_n but_o the_o very_a terâ—â—_n §_o 35._o he_o proceed_v to_o prove_v by_o argument_n that_o the_o britain_n be_v against-infant_n baptism_n 1._o because_o they_o
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