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ordinance_n and_o ministerium_fw-la be_v but_o a_o collective_a term_n as_o we_o call_v the_o company_n of_o magistrate_n the_o magistracy_n of_o a_o nation_n so_o we_o call_v the_o company_n of_o minister_n the_o ministry_n so_o aretius_n bucanus_n vrsin_n etc._n etc._n so_o martinius_n ministerium_fw-la est_fw-la ipse_fw-la quoque_fw-la minister_n so_o ravanella_n munus_fw-la vel_fw-la functio_fw-la voco_fw-la ministerium_fw-la for_o which_o he_o quote_v many_o text_n of_o scripture_n and_o so_o interprete_v many_o of_o those_o i_o before_o cite_v the_o 2_o cor._n 6.3_o and_o that_o in_o 1_o tim._n 12._o seem_v very_o inclinable_a to_o this_o interpretation_n and_o here_o again_o our_o brethren_n seem_v to_o play_v with_o a_o equivocal_a term_n when_o they_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o speak_n of_o gift_a brethren_n may_v be_v call_v ministry_n for_o there_o be_v ministration_n in_o their_o service_n so_o there_o be_v too_o in_o their_o servant_n wait_v upon_o they_o at_o their_o 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