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A66974 Two discourses concerning the adoration of a B. Saviour in the H. Eucharist the first: Animadversions upon the alterations of the rubrick in the Communion-Service, in the Common-Prayer-Book of the Church of England : the second: The Catholicks defence for their adoration of our Lord, as believed really and substantially present in the Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist. R. H., 1609-1678. 1687 (1687) Wing W3459; ESTC R16193 65,860 80

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as_o much_o as_o he_o and_o do_v not_o himself_o say_v several_a time_n that_o catholic_n condemn_v the_o worship_v of_o a_o mere_a creature_n for_o idolatry_n see_v §_o 4._o p._n 120._o if_o say_v he_o it_o shall_v be_v but_o a_o mere_a creature_n that_o i_o adore_v all_o the_o world_n can_v excuse_v i_o from_o idolatry_n and_o my_o own_o church_n he_o mean_v the_o roman_a condemn_v i_o all_o agree_v that_o this_o be_v gross_a idolatry_n again_o p._n 119._o it_o be_v say_v he_o a_o principle_n indisputable_a among_o they_o i._n e._n catholic_n that_o to_o give_v proper_a divine_a honour_n to_o a_o creature_n be_v idolatry_n again_o p._n 126._o he_o say_v he_o find_v it_o general_o agree_v by_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n that_o the_o humane_a nature_n of_o christ_n consider_v alone_o i._n e._n without_o a_o hypostatical_a union_n to_o the_o divinity_n aught_o not_o to_o have_v divine_a honour_n give_v to_o it_o be_v therefore_o neither_o any_o other_o creature_n 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to_o catholic_n with_o s._n austin_n very_o unreasonable_a similiter_fw-la etiam_fw-la say_v he_o epist_n 118._o januario_n siquid_fw-la horum_fw-la tota_fw-la per_fw-la orbem_fw-la frequentat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la nam_fw-la &_o hinc_fw-la quin_fw-la ita_fw-la faciendum_fw-la sit_fw-la disputare_fw-la insolentissimae_fw-la insaniae_fw-la est_fw-la and_o graeci_fw-la omnes_fw-la say_v bishop_n forbes_n de_fw-fr euchar._n l._n 2._o c._n 2._o as_o well_o as_o the_o roman_a church_n adorant_a christum_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n et_fw-la quis_fw-la ausit_fw-la omnes_fw-la hos_fw-la christianos_n idololatriae_fw-la arcessere_fw-la &_o damnare_fw-la §_o 28_o v._n last_o beside_o this_o great_a body_n catholic_n have_v since_o luther_n time_n in_o the_o reformation_n no_o small_a number_n of_o protestant_n i_o mean_v such_o as_o be_v the_o genuine_a son_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n proceed_v thus_o far_o as_o to_o confess_v both_o a_o real_a presence_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o adoration_n of_o it_o as_o present_v there_o a_o real_a presence_n of_o it_o to_o each_o worthy_a receiver_n though_o not_o to_o the_o element_n and_o hooker_n if_o he_o mistake_v not_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o his_o time_n say_v eccles_n pol._n l._n 5._o §_o 67._o wherefore_o shall_v the_o world_n continue_v still_o distract_v and_o rend_v with_o so_o many_o manifold_a contention_n when_o there_o remain_v now_o no_o controversy_n save_v only_o about_o the_o subject_n where_o christ_n be_v nor_o do_v any_o thing_n rest_v doubtful_a in_o this_o but_o whither_o when_o the_o sacrament_n be_v administer_v christ_n be_v whole_a within_o man_n only_o or_o else_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n be_v also_o external_o seat_v in_o the_o very_a consecrate_a element_n themselves_o so_o that_o if_o hooker_n and_o his_o party_n be_v in_o the_o right_n catholic_n do_v not_o mistake_v christ_n body_n as_o present_v in_o a_o place_n where_o it_o be_v not_o but_o only_o in_o think_v it_o in_o that_o present_a to_o one_o thing_n the_o element_n when_o it_o be_v so_o only_o to_o another_o the_o receiver_n of_o they_o but_o then_o the_o same_o catholic_n have_v another_o half_n of_o the_o reformation_n viz._n all_o the_o lutheran_n protestant_n that_o affirm_v with_o the_o roman_a church_n christ_n body_n present_v also_o to_o the_o element_n or_o symbol_n and_o see_v mr._n thorndike_n also_o epilog_n l._n 3._o c._n 3._o much_o for_o this_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n to_o be_v in_o with_o or_o under_o the_o element_n immediate_o upon_o and_o by_o the_o consecration_n of_o they_o which_o consecration_n also_o he_o place_v l._n 3.4_o c._n p._n 24._o in_o the_o blessing_n of_o the_o element_n before_o the_o break_n etc._n etc._n mention_v before_o §_o 7._o look_v back_o now_o upon_o all_o these_o plea_n of_o catholic_n and_o see_v if_o they_o will_v not_o make_v up_o at_o least_o a_o reasonable_a ground_n or_o motive_n of_o their_o adoration_n a_o reasonable_a ground_n i_o say_v not_o here_o what_o i_o may_v sufficient_v to_o secure_v their_o faith_n from_o all_o suspicion_n of_o error_n but_o which_o serve_v my_o purpose_n to_o secure_v they_o from_o idolatry_n in_o their_o adoration_n though_o they_o shall_v be_v mistake_v when_o as_o other_o person_n because_o proceed_v on_o like_o reasonable_a motive_n be_v by_o protestant_n in_o their_o adoration_n of_o a_o mistake_a presence_n or_o object_n excuse_v from_o it_o see_v before_o §_o 8._o as_o for_o example_n the_o lutheran_n the_o adorer_n of_o one_o much_o resemble_v our_o lord_n here_o on_o earth_n the_o adorer_n of_o a_o unconsecrated_a host_n or_o wafer_n place_v on_o the_o altar_n etc._n etc._n especial_o when_o catholic_n in_o credit_v such_o divine_a revelation_n of_o christ_n presence_n and_o so_o for_o their_o adoration_n receive_v no_o contradiction_n as_o it_o be_v pretend_v they_o do_v from_o their_o sense_n because_o they_o adore_v i_o mean_v with_o divine_a adoration_n nothing_o visible_a or_o sensible_a at_o all_o nor_o any_o substance_n invisible_a wherein_o any_o thing_n that_o occur_v to_o their_o sense_n inhere_n but_o only_o understand_v christ_n body_n present_v there_o where_o their_o sense_n can_v no_o way_n certain_o and_o against_o any_o pretend_a divine_a revelation_n inform_v they_o either_o when_o it_o be_v present_a or_o not_o since_o salvis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la phaenomenis_fw-la all_o appearance_n grant_v most_o true_a such_o a_o presence_n be_v possible_a §_o 29_o these_o rational_a ground_n of_o catholic_n for_o adoration_n which_o we_o expect_v shall_v have_v be_v most_o strict_o examine_v by_o those_o who_o conclude_v the_o roman_a practice_n herein_o idolatry_n be_v slight_o pass_v over_o by_o daille_n in_o pronounce_v that_o this_o error_n of_o catholic_n vient_fw-fr toute_fw-fr entiere_fw-fr de_fw-fr leur_fw-fr passion_n apolog._n des_fw-fr eglis_n reform_v c._n 11._o p._n 90._o and_o after_o in_o reduce_v all_o their_o ground_n thereof_o to_o a_o la_fw-fr seule_fw-fr authorite_n du_fw-fr pape_n &_o the_o son_n concile_v and_o by_o dr._n taylor_n real_a pres_n §_o 13._o p._n 346._o in_o call_v they_o some_o trifle_a pretence_n make_v out_o of_o some_o say_n of_o the_o father_n elsewhere_o indeed_o when_o he_o be_v in_o a_o more_o charitable_a temper_n liberty_n of_o prophe_n p._n 258._o he_o say_v that_o for_o a_o motive_n to_o such_o a_o opinion_n roman_a catholic_n have_v a_o divine_a revelation_n who_o literal_a and_o grammatical_a sense_n if_o that_o sense_n be_v intend_v will_v warrant_v they_o to_o do_v violence_n to_o all_o the_o science_n in_o the_o circle_n but_o prudent_o there_o omit_v their_o plea_n of_o catholic_n tradition_n secure_v to_o they_o such_o a_o literal_a sense_n of_o the_o text._n dr._n stilling-fleet_n rom_n idol_n c._n 2._o §_o 7._o say_v first_o that_o if_o a_o mistake_n in_o this_o case_n will_v excuse_v the_o romanist_n it_o will_v excuse_v the_o gross_a idolatry_n in_o the_o world_n and_o in_o compare_v two_o person_n one_o worship_v christ_n as_o real_o present_a in_o the_o sun_n another_o christ_n as_o real_o present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n he_o say_v as_o inconsiderate_o as_o magisterial_o that_o suppose_v a_o mistake_n in_o both_o we_o be_v not_o to_o inquire_v into_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o mistake_n i._n e._n as_o he_o say_v before_o concern_v the_o probability_n of_o the_o one_o mistake_v more_o than_o of_o the_o other_o but_o the_o influence_n it_o have_v upon_o our_o action_n so_o he_o but_o what_o be_v more_o manifest_a than_o that_o the_o influence_n which_o a_o mistake_n have_v upon_o our_o action_n as_o to_o make_v they_o culpable_a or_o innocent_a be_v not_o always_o the_o same_o but_o very_o various_a and_o often_o contrary_a render_v they_o sometime_o blameless_a sometime_o faulty_a according_a as_o the_o mistake_n be_v ex_fw-la ●r_n in-excusable_a next_o he_o grant_v ibid._n §_o 5._o a_o catholic_n tradition_n of_o transubstantiation_n to_o be_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n for_o adoration_n but_o the_o cacholick_a tradition_n that_o be_v plead_v here_o necessary_a for_o adoration_n be_v only_o that_o of_o a_o corporal_a presence_n now_o for_o a_o sufficient_a evidence_n of_o such_o a_o tradition_n i_o refer_v the_o conscientious_a reader_n to_o what_o have_v be_v say_v before_o wave_v that_o of_o transubstantiation_n as_o to_o this_o controversy_n though_o the_o same_o catholic_n tradition_n authorize_v both_o namely_o a_o corporal_a presence_n by_o a_o mutation_n of_o the_o element_n into_o our_o lord_n body_n this_o from_o §_o 24._o of_o the_o rational_a ground_n catholic_n have_v for_o their_o adoration_n §_o 30_o 8ly_n for_o such_o rational_a ground_n therefore_o of_o their_o worship_n as_o be_v here_o give_v and_o not_o from_o any_o excess_n of_o charity_n or_o from_o the_o singular_a fancy_n of_o some_o few_o though_o learned_a man_n as_o dr._n stillingfleet_n in_o his_o preface_n to_o roman_a idolatry_n will_v insinuate_v idolatry_n be_v by_o many_o protestant_n of_o late_a either_o not_o at_o all_o or_o but_o faint_o charge_v on_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o see_v mr._n thorndike_n in_o his_o epilogue_n 3._o l._n 30._o c._n p._n 350._o i_o say_v first_o say_v he_o that_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n prescribe_v be_v not_o necessary_o idolatry_n i_o say_v not_o what_o it_o may_v be_v accidental_o by_o that_o intention_n which_o some_o man_n may_v conceal_v and_o may_v make_v it_o idolatry_n as_o to_o god_n but_o i_o speak_v upon_o supposition_n of_o that_o intention_n which_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o church_n form_v and_o in_o his_o just_a weight_n c._n 19_o p._n 125._o they_o who_o give_v the_o honour_n proper_a to_o god_n to_o his_o creature_n be_v idolater_n they_o that_o worship_v the_o host_n give_v the_o honour_n due_a to_o god_n to_o his_o creature_n this_o be_v take_v for_o a_o demonstration_n that_o the_o worship_n of_o the_o host_n
be_v idolatry_n but_o will_v any_o papist_n acknowledge_v that_o he_o honour_v the_o element_n of_o the_o eucharist_n or_o as_o he_o think_v the_o accident_n of_o they_o for_o god_n will_v common_a reason_n charge_v he_o to_o honour_n that_o which_o he_o believe_v not_o to_o be_v there_o if_o they_o be_v there_o they_o will_v not_o take_v they_o for_o god_n and_o therefore_o they_o will_v not_o honour_v they_o for_o god_n and_o that_o be_v it_o not_o say_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v idolater_n if_o the_o element_n do_v remain_v that_o must_v make_v they_o idolater_n and_o epilogue_n p._n 357._o in_o general_a he_o say_v whoso_o admit_v idolatry_n i._n e._n in_o any_o point_n whatever_o to_o be_v teach_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n can_v by_o no_o mean_n grant_v it_o to_o be_v a_o church_n the_o very_a be_v whereof_o suppose_v the_o worship_n of_o one_o god_n exclusive_a to_o any_o thing_n else_o the_o roman_a church_n then_o must_v either_o be_v free_v from_o the_o imputation_n of_o command_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v idolatry_n i._n e._n adoration_n of_o a_o creature_n for_o god_n or_o we_o must_v affirm_v there_o to_o be_v and_o to_o have_v be_v no_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n never_o since_o such_o command_n of_o that_o which_o they_o say_v be_v idolatry_n go_v forth_o which_o no_o judicious_a protestant_n i_o think_v have_v or_o dare_v say_v of_o the_o roman_a church_n since_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n for_o what_o church_n or_o sect_n of_o religion_n can_v be_v apostate_n at_o all_o if_o not_o a_o church_n commit_v and_o command_a idolatry_n even_o the_o worship_v of_o a_o piece_n of_o bread_n which_o themselves_o make_v for_o that_o god_n which_o make_v they_o and_o heaven_n and_o earth_n and_o thus_o bishop_n forbes_n de_fw-fr euchar._n l._n 2._o c._n 2._o perperam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d romanensibus_fw-la a_o plerisque_fw-la protestantibus_fw-la objicitur_fw-la &_o illi_fw-la idololatriae_fw-la crassissimae_fw-la &_o gravissimae_fw-la ab_fw-la his_fw-la insimulantur_fw-la &_o damnantur_fw-la cum_fw-la plerique_fw-la romanenses_n ut_fw-la &_o alii_fw-la fideles_fw-la credant_fw-la panem_fw-la consecratum_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la amplius_fw-la panem_fw-la sed_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la unde_fw-la illi_fw-la non_fw-la panem_fw-la adorant_fw-la sed_fw-la tantum_fw-la ex_fw-la suppositione_n licet_fw-la falsa_fw-la nontamen_a haeretica_fw-la aut_fw-la impia_fw-la vel_fw-la cum_fw-la fide_fw-la directe_v pugnante_fw-la ut_fw-la superiore_fw-la libro_fw-la ostensum_fw-la est_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la quod_fw-la veer_fw-la adorandum_fw-la est_fw-la adorant_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n enim_fw-la ment_fw-la discernendum_fw-la esse_fw-la christum_fw-la a_o visibili_fw-la signo_fw-la decent_a ipsi_fw-la &_o christum_fw-la quidem_fw-la adorandum_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la quia_fw-la species_n illae_fw-la sunt_fw-la res_fw-la creatae_fw-la &_o inanimes_fw-la &_o consequenter_fw-la incapace_n adorationis_fw-la and_o ibid._n show_v the_o greek_a and_o eastern_a church_n as_o well_o as_o the_o roman_a to_o use_v it_o he_o conclude_v quis_fw-la ausit_fw-la omnes_fw-la hos_fw-la christianos_n idololatriae_fw-la arcessere_fw-la &_o damnare_fw-la after_o the_o same_o manner_n the_o archbishop_n of_o spalleto_n de_fw-fr repub._n eccles_n 7._o l._n 11._o c._n n._n 6._o respondeo_fw-la say_v he_o i_o nullum_fw-la idololatricum_fw-la crimen_fw-la in_o adoratione_n eucharistiae_fw-la si_fw-la recte_fw-la dirigatur_fw-la intentio_fw-la agnoscere_fw-la qui_fw-la enim_fw-la docent_fw-la panem_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la amplius_fw-la panem_fw-la sed_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la illi_fw-la profecto_fw-la panem_fw-la non_fw-la adorant_fw-la sed_fw-la solum_fw-la ex_fw-la suppositione_n licet_fw-la falsa_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la veer_fw-la adorabile_fw-la adorant_fw-la non_fw-la enim_fw-la nostri_fw-la dicunt_fw-la species_n panis_fw-la &_o vini_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la accidentia_fw-la illa_fw-la esse_fw-la adoranda_fw-la bishop_n bramhal_o cite_v before_o §_o 6._o the_o sacrament_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v say_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n the_o sacrament_n i._n e._n formal_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n say_v some_o of_o your_o author_n we_o say_v the_o same_o the_o sacrament_n i._n e._n the_o species_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n say_v other_o that_o we_o deny_v thus_o he_o d._n tailor_n in_o his_o liberty_n of_o prophesy_v p._n 258._o confess_v the_o subject_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n no_o idolater_n in_o this_o kind_n at_o least_o so_o as_o to_o worship_v bread_n or_o any_o creature_n with_o divine_a worship_n and_o as_o god_n for_o it_o be_v evident_a say_v he_o that_o the_o object_n of_o their_o adoration_n that_o which_o be_v represent_v to_o they_o in_o their_o mind_n their_o thought_n and_o purpose_n and_o by_o which_o god_n principal_o if_o not_o sole_o take_v estimate_n of_o humane_a action_n in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n be_v the_o only_a true_a and_o eternal_a god_n hypostatical_o join_v with_o his_o holy_a humanity_n which_o humanity_n they_o believe_v actual_o under_o the_o veil_n of_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n and_o if_o they_o think_v he_o not_o present_a they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o worship_v the_o bread_n in_o this_o case_n that_o themselves_o profess_v it_o to_o be_v idolatry_n to_o do_v so_o which_o be_v a_o demonstration_n that_o their_o soul_n have_v nothing_o in_o it_o that_o be_v idololatrical_a i._n e._n as_o to_o the_o direct_v this_o their_o divine_a worship_n to_o a_o undue_a object_n §_o 31_o which_o thing_n if_o say_v right_a by_o he_o and_o the_o other_o the_o same_o dr._n taylor_n be_v faulty_a in_o his_o charge_n in_o real_a presence_n p._n 334._o faulty_a i_o say_v in_o charge_v on_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n not_o their_o worship_n of_o a_o right_a object_n in_o a_o someway_n unlawful_a and_o prohibit_v manner_n this_o we_o be_v not_o here_o examine_v but_o their_o worship_n of_o a_o undue_a object_n of_o adoration_n of_o a_o creature_n instead_o of_o god_n for_o so_o he_o charge_v they_o there_o if_o say_v he_o there_o they_o be_v deceive_v in_o their_o own_o strict_a article_n he_o mean_v of_o transubstantiation_n than_o it_o be_v certain_a they_o commit_v a_o act_n of_o idolatry_n in_o give_v divine_a honour_n to_o a_o mere_a creature_n the_o image_n the_o sacrament_n and_o representment_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ._n thus_o he_o when_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o object_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o only_a true_a and_o eternal_a god_n etc._n etc._n as_o he_o say_v before_o in_o the_o place_n cite_v and_o must_v say_v if_o he_o will_v say_v truth_n so_o faulty_a be_v also_o daille_n reply_v to_o chaumont_n p._n 63._o in_o his_o charge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o worship_v bread_n upon_o this_o argue_v catholic_n adore_v that_o substance_n that_o be_v veil_v with_o the_o accident_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n but_o this_o substance_n be_v bread_n ergo_fw-la they_o adore_v bread_n by_o which_o argue_v he_o may_v as_o well_o prove_v the_o lutheran_n in_o the_o eucharist_n to_o adore_v a_o worm_n or_o a_o mite_n thus_o the_o lutheran_n adore_v that_o substance_n which_o be_v join_v with_o the_o bread_n but_o that_o substance_n be_v a_o worm_n or_o mite_n for_o such_o thing_n may_v be_v there_o with_o the_o bread_n at_o such_o time_n of_o adoration_n ergo_fw-la they_o adore_v a_o worm_n whereas_o both_o the_o catholic_n and_o lutheran_n explain_v the_o indefinite_a term_n that_o which_o use_v in_o the_o major_a proposition_n restrictive_o to_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o exclusive_o to_o any_o other_o substance_n whatever_o that_o be_v or_o may_v be_v there_o either_o with_o the_o bread_n or_o under_o its_o accident_n faulty_a also_o be_v dr._n stillingfleet_n rom._n idol_n c._n 2._o in_o say_v the_o protestant_n controversy_n with_o catholic_n be_v whether_o proper_a divine_a worship_n in_o the_o time_n of_o receive_v the_o eucharist_n may_v be_v give_v to_o the_o element_n on_o the_o account_n of_o a_o corporal_a presence_n under_o they_o p._n 117._o and_o as_o for_o the_o passage_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n sess_v 13._o c._n 5._o urge_v by_o he_o there_o for_o it_o his_o mistake_n be_v show_v before_o §_o 12._o and_o so_o faulty_a in_o his_o conclude_v p._n 118._o that_o the_o immediate_a term_n of_o that_o divine_a worship_n give_v by_o catholic_n be_v the_o external_a and_o visible_a sign_n or_o element_n and_o again_o p._n 124._o that_o upon_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n no_o man_n can_v be_v satisfy_v that_o he_o worship_v not_o a_o mere_a creature_n with_o divine_a honour_n when_o he_o give_v adoration_n to_o the_o host_n whenas_o catholic_n expound_v themselves_o to_o mean_v by_o host_n in_o their_o adoration_n not_o the_o symbol_n or_o sacramentum_fw-la but_o rem_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la again_o p._n 125_o 127_o 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