Selected quad for the lemma: church_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
church_n	canon_n	council_n	nice_a	2,852	5	10.4936	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A85228	Certain considerations of present concernment: touching this reformed Church of England. With a particular examination of An: Champny (Doctor of the Sorbon) his exceptions against the lawful calling and ordination of the Protestant bishops and pastors of this Church. / By H: Ferne, D.D.	Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662.	1653 (1653)	Wing F789; Thomason E1520_1; ESTC R202005	136,131	385

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council_n condemn_v this_o error_n slubber_v it_o over_o say_v it_o be_v practise_v quibusdam_fw-la in_o locis_fw-la in_o some_o place_n as_o if_o not_o in_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o that_o the_o ancient_n do_v so_o hold_v no_o necessity_n of_o it_o three_o to_o show_v that_o no_o point_n of_o faith_n or_o worship_n wherein_o they_o and_o we_o differ_v do_v so_o general_o prevail_v in_o the_o church_n and_o with_o so_o little_a contradiction_n make_v to_o it_o as_o those_o error_n do_v for_o some_o age_n it_o be_v true_a that_o justin_n martyr_n in_o his_o dial._n cum_fw-la tryiph_n insinuate_v that_o many_o pious_o affect_v do_v not_o entertain_v the_o millenary_a belief_n yet_o he_o tell_v we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o all_o who_o be_v in_o all_o point_v orthodox_n or_o of_o right_a judgement_n hold_v it_o and_o i_o say_v no_o more_o pag._n 58._o of_o the_o former_a book_n also_o of_o all_o that_o write_v for_o 300._o year_n even_o down_o to_o lactantius_n inclusive_o 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hen._n 8._o advance_v under_o king_n edward_n perfect_v under_o queen_n elizabeth_n and_o of_o the_o warrantableness_n thereof_o pag._n 62._o chap._n iii_o of_o the_o lawful_a call_n of_o our_o english_a protestant_n bishop_n against_o doctor_n champny_n sorbonist_n and_o of_o the_o first_o prejudice_n from_o other_o reform_a church_n that_o have_v not_o ordination_n by_o bishop_n pag._n 89._o chap._n iu._n of_o the_o second_o prejudice_n against_o the_o ordination_n from_o the_o protestant_a opinion_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n heretical_a pag._n 131._o chap._n v._o of_o the_o three_o prejudice_n from_o the_o protestant_a opinion_n of_o the_o romish_a order_n that_o they_o be_v sacrilegious_a and_o do_v not_o give_v a_o indelible_a character_n pag._n 156._o chap._n vi_o of_o archhishop_n cranmers_n ordination_n and_o the_o pretend_a defect_n of_o it_o bigamy_n and_o heresy_n pag._n 177._o chap._n vii_o of_o bishop_n ordain_v in_o king_n 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in_o their_o ordination_n that_o it_o conclude_v they_o to_o have_v no_o pastor_n at_o all_o and_o no_o church_n this_o argument_n he_o pursue_v chief_o against_o doctor_n field_n ordination_n distinction_n of_o the_o power_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n as_o to_o ordination_n who_o in_o the_o 3._o book_n of_o the_o church_n cap._n 39_o have_v endeavour_v in_o behalf_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n that_o have_v not_o bishop_n to_o show_v that_o their_o ordination_n though_o not_o regular_a according_a to_o the_o way_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o be_v not_o simple_o invalid_a and_o that_o by_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o best_a schoolman_n who_o hold_v the_o office_n of_o a_o bishop_n to_o be_v not_o a_o distinct_a order_n or_o to_o imprint_v a_o distinct_a character_n from_o that_o of_o the_o priestly_a function_n which_o also_o they_o prove_v by_o this_o instance_n a_o bishop_n ordain_v per_fw-la saltum_fw-la i._n e._n who_o be_v not_o first_o make_v presbyter_n can_v either_o 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champny_n reply_v to_o all_o this_o and_o then_o consider_v what_o may_v be_v reasonable_o allow_v and_o say_v as_o to_o this_o point_n his_o answer_n be_v to_o this_o purpose_n that_o those_o schoolman_n if_o they_o hold_v not_o episcopacy_n to_o be_v a_o distinct_a order_n yet_o say_v it_o be_v a_o distinct_a power_n if_o not_o a_o different_a character_n yet_o a_o new_a extension_n of_o the_o former_a sacerdotal_a character_n and_o that_o the_o argument_n from_o ordination_n per_fw-la saltum_fw-la do_v not_o disprove_v the_o latter_a way_n last_o that_o such_o presbyterian_a ordination_n be_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n null_a ex_fw-la naturâ_fw-la rei_fw-la and_o not_o by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a canon_n only_o for_o that_o judgement_n or_o sentence_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o a_o constitutive_a decree_n for_o then_o the_o beginning_n of_o it_o will_v appear_v in_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o ancient_a counsel_n but_o only_a declarative_n of_o what_o be_v so_o in_o itself_o from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o church_n this_o he_o in_o his_o 7._o chap._n 21._o here_o something_o be_v doubtful_a and_o questionable_a something_o clear_a and_o apparent_a that_o bishop_n have_v a_o power_n or_o faculty_n to_o do_v something_o which_o presbyter_n can_v not_o namely_o to_o ordain_v be_v clear_a in_o schoolman_n and_o father_n but_o whether_o that_o power_n make_v the_o episcopal_a function_n a_o distinct_a order_n from_o the_o priestly_a or_o imprint_v a_o different_a sacramental_a character_n we_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o schoolman_n to_o dispute_v also_o we_o grant_v that_o bishop_n receive_v and_o exercise_v that_o power_n as_o champny_n say_v true_o not_o by_o a_o moral_a designation_n only_o as_o judge_n and_o officer_n in_o a_o state_n do_v for_o the_o time_n of_o their_o office_n or_o as_o those_o among_o the_o presbyter_n seem_v to_o do_v who_o be_v assign_v to_o ordain_v other_o but_o by_o real_a consecration_n or_o sacred_a devote_v they_o to_o that_o office_n or_o work_n of_o ordain_v and_o send_v other_o which_o consecration_n though_o it_o imprint_v not_o a_o sacramental_a character_n on_o the_o soul_n as_o the_o romanist_n express_v it_o yet_o it_o give_v to_o the_o person_n so_o ordain_v &_o devote_v such_o a_o faculty_n or_o habitude_n to_o that_o action_n or_o work_n as_o can_v be_v take_v from_o he_o the_o reason_n of_o which_o we_o shall_v inquire_v below_o where_o occasion_n be_v give_v to_o speak_v more_o of_o that_o which_o the_o romanist_n call_v character_n indelible_a in_o this_o point_n of_o holy_a order_n furthermore_o whether_o this_o office_n of_o ordain_v imply_v a_o power_n whole_o superad_v to_o the_o priestly_a function_n bishop_n two_o way_n of_o conceive_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n in_o bishop_n ordain_v imply_v a_o power_n whole_o superad_v to_o the_o priestly_a function_n which_o be_v one_o way_n of_o conceive_v it_o or_o a_o faculty_n of_o exercise_v that_o power_n suppose_v to_o be_v radicate_v or_o found_v in_o the_o priestly_a order_n and_o diffuse_v with_o it_o by_o restrain_v it_o to_o certain_a person_n consecrate_v for_o that_o performance_n it_o may_v be_v question_v doctor_n field_n seem_v plain_o to_o conceive_v it_o this_o latter_a way_n and_o so_o do_v the_o schoolman_n allege_v by_o he_o and_o champny_n expression_n of_o their_o sense_n by_o extension_n of_o the_o sacerdotal_a character_n if_o it_o have_v any_o sense_n speak_v as_o much_o viz._n the_o dilate_v of_o that_o which_o be_v before_o in_o the_o sacerdotal_a order_n radical_o by_o extend_v that_o radical_a power_n unto_o a_o proxima_fw-la potentia_fw-la or_o immediate_a faculty_n in_o certain_a person_n consecrate_v to_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o and_o keep_v it_o restrain_v in_o all_o other_o of_o that_o order_n who_o be_v not_o so_o consecrate_v and_o devote_v to_o that_o great_a work_n of_o ordain_v and_o send_v other_o last_o whether_o we_o conceive_v of_o it_o as_o

can_v have_v that_o defect_n supply_v not_o other_o reform_a church_n for_o they_o can_v less_o prove_v themselves_o to_o be_v church_n or_o to_o have_v lawful_a vocation_n of_o pastor_n than_o the_o church_n of_o england_n can_v not_o the_o grecian_a russian_a or_o ethiopic_a church_n for_o they_o also_o be_v in_o schism_n and_o heresy_n and_o our_o english_a reformer_n pretend_v not_o to_o receive_v their_o call_n from_o they_o or_o to_o have_v it_o supply_v by_o they_o therefore_o they_o can_v no_o way_n have_v their_o defect_n supply_v or_o recover_v the_o lawful_a use_n of_o ordination_n so_o he_o p._n 337._o etc._n etc._n thus_o have_v argue_v against_o our_o vocation_n upon_o our_o supposal_n of_o heresy_n in_o those_o we_o acknowledge_v our_o ordainer_n and_o boast_v of_o it_o as_o a_o indissoluble_a argument_n pag._n 335._o he_o be_v now_o fain_o to_o take_v away_o the_o supposal_n itself_o by_o affirm_v they_o to_o be_v the_o only_a lawful_a pastor_n and_o that_o none_o 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church_n that_o we_o be_v a_o national_a church_n and_o independ_v on_o any_o foreign_a jurisdiction_n shall_v upon_o our_o disagreement_n with_o rome_n be_v bind_v to_o apply_v ourselves_o to_o other_o church_n by_o actual_a reconciliation_n or_o full_a agreement_n in_o what_o they_o hold_v or_o practise_v of_o which_o in_o 16._o sect._n of_o former_a book_n for_o private_a man_n indeed_o and_o particular_a company_n of_o man_n return_v from_o heresy_n or_o schism_n actual_a reconciliation_n to_o the_o church_n of_o which_o they_o be_v member_n or_o from_o which_o they_o depart_v be_v necessary_a but_o not_o so_o for_o a_o national_a and_o independ_v church_n such_o actual_a reconciliation_n when_o it_o have_v be_v perform_v be_v but_o of_o the_o solemnity_n of_o the_o business_n and_o may_v be_v to_o good_a purpose_n do_v when_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n stand_v entire_a in_o a_o condition_n fit_a to_o receive_v it_o but_o the_o soul_n of_o unity_n with_o 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