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who_o see_v not_o that_o out_o of_o this_o constitution_n of_o frederick_n nothing_o can_v be_v conclude_v for_o such_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n in_o criminal_a cause_n from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a power_n but_o only_o from_o that_o of_o subordinat_fw-la inferior_a and_o ordinary_a civil_a or_o secular_a judicatories_n beside_o we_o know_v frederick_n law_n be_v only_o for_o those_o few_o city_n or_o province_n that_o remain_v in_o his_o time_n which_o be_v about_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n one_o thousand_o two_o hundred_o and_o twenty_o and_o therefore_o can_v not_o pretend_v nor_o do_v pretend_v to_o prescribe_v law_n to_o other_o kingdom_n or_o king_n for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n either_o in_o civil_a or_o criminal_a cause_n or_o even_o to_o the_o inferior_a judicatories_n of_o other_o king_n and_o that_o we_o know_v also_o that_o that_o law_n of_o frederick_n be_v not_o imitate_v by_o the_o like_a in_o other_o principality_n not_o subject_a to_o he_o not_o imitate_v i_o say_v general_o as_o to_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n in_o all_o either_o civil_a or_o criminal_a cause_n whatsoever_o from_o the_o very_a subordinat_a inferior_a civil_a judicatories_n nor_o even_o in_o prima_fw-la instantia_fw-la so_o that_o i_o must_v conclude_v that_o bellarmine_n be_v put_v to_o a_o very_a narrow_a strait_n for_o a_o imperial_a or_o civil_a law_n whâ—_n 〈◊〉_d pitch_v on_o this_o of_o frederick_n which_o be_v not_o know_v nor_o as_o much_o as_o 〈◊〉_d of_o in_o other_o part_n of_o even_a europe_n itself_o as_o own_v no_o subjection_n to_o frederick_n and_o yet_o a_o law_n not_o to_o the_o purpose_n be_v it_o of_o the_o same_o authority_n those_o imperial_a constitution_n be_v when_o the_o orient_a and_o the_o occident_n south_n and_o north_n as_o far_o as_o the_o roman_a empire_n be_v ever_o spread_v at_o any_o time_n or_o even_o in_o great_a constantins_n day_n be_v under_o one_o lord._n a_o imperial_a or_o civil_a law_n in_o those_o day_n or_o of_o such_o other_o for_o some_o age_n after_o which_o wâ—e_v receive_v in_o the_o wide_a christian_n world_n &_o consequent_o &_o general_o retain_v may_v have_v be_v to_o purpose_n if_o it_o have_v clear_o express_o on_o particular_o enact_v any_o thing_n to_o our_o present_a purpose_n but_o conceive_v in_o such_o term_n as_o this_o of_o frederick_n coâ—lâ—_n not_o be_v to_o such_o purpose_n for_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o be_v exempt_v from_o the_o subjection_n due_a to_o emperor_n or_o king_n and_o another_o to_o be_v exempt_v a_o forâ—_n secuilâ—i_fw-la from_o a_o secâ—â—â—â—_n judicatory_a the_o emperor_n have_v under_o themselves_o and_o establish_v by_o themselves_o and_o by_o their_o own_o civil_a law_n two_o sort_n of_o judicatories_n the_o one_o termâ—â—â—g_v mere_a civil_a or_o mere_a secular_a judicatory_a where_o peculars_n only_o or_o mere_a â—ay_n man_n be_v judge_n and_o the_o other_o term_v 〈◊〉_d ecclesiastical_a judicatory_a where_o ecclesiastical_a person_n only_o or_o person_n depâ—â—â—â—_n by_o they_o be_v judgeâ—_n whatever_o the_o cause_n or_o question_n be_v civil_a or_o criminal_a temporal_a or_o spiritual_a or_o mix_v of_o both_o and_o both_o have_v their_o power_n which_o as_o coercive_a or_o a_o 〈…〉_o with_o any_o coercible_a from_o the_o emperor_n and_o from_o their_o civil_a law_n 〈◊〉_d so_o that_o the_o emperor_n exempt_n any_o from_o the_o secular_a judicatory_a 〈…〉_o leave_v or_o put_v such_o under_o the_o subordinat_fw-la pâ—â—er_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n depute_v by_o the_o same_o emperor_n or_o by_o their_o law_n which_o they_o may_v have_v do_v in_o favour_n of_o mere_a lie_v man_n 〈◊〉_d some_o lay-man_n and_o in_o some_o or_o many_o or_o all_o case_n whatsoever_o make_v have_v it_o be_v their_o imperial_a pleasure_n as_o often_o they_o do_v by_o instance_n grant_v epise_v 〈◊〉_d and_o entiam_fw-la to_o mere_a lie_v man_n and_o in_o mere_a lie_v crime_n or_o lie_v cause_n 〈◊〉_d civil_a and_o criminal_a at_o leaâ—_n in_o civil_a will_v bellarmine_n conclude_v therefore_o that_o those_o be_v exempt_v or_o shall_v be_v in_o such_o a_o case_n and_o by_o the_o emperor_n themselves_o or_o their_o law_n exempt_v from_o their_o own_o supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n in_o criminal_a cause_n or_o indeed_o in_o any_o whatsoever_o or_o must_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o by_o the_o law_n of_o england_n a_o lord_n for_o example_n 〈◊〉_d be_v condemn_v or_o try_v in_o a_o criminal_a cause_n but_o by_o his_o peer_n that_o therefore_o in_o england_n a_o lord_n be_v exempt_a from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n of_o the_o king_n himself_o or_o that_o it_o be_v not_o by_o a_o power_n derive_v from_o the_o king_n thâ—â—_n peer_n 〈…〉_o condemn_v or_o free_v another_o peer_n or_o even_o that_o by_o the_o supreme_a power_n of_o the_o king_n which_o former_o establish_v such_o a_o law_n of_o privilege_n for_o peer_n the_o same_o law_n may_v not_o be_v just_o again_o or_o upon_o just_a ground_n repeal_v and_o a_o contrary_a law_n make_v in_o parliament_n if_o at_o any_o time_n it_o be_v find_v by_o manifest_a experience_n that_o the_o peer_n do_v manifest_o and_o manifold_o and_o even_o to_o the_o ruin_n of_o the_o king_n and_o kingdom_n and_o against_o the_o very_a primary_n intention_n of_o all_o privilege_n and_o law_n make_v use_n of_o or_o rather_o abuse_v such_o a_o former_a law_n or_o former_a privilege_n or_o final_o and_o consequent_o that_o whatever_o privilege_n of_o exemption_n though_o only_o from_o inferior_a lie_v judge_n be_v so_o grant_v as_o before_o to_o clerk_n by_o the_o supreme_a civil_a power_n of_o emperor_n king_n and_o other_o state_n be_v such_o that_o in_o case_n of_o manifest_a and_o manifold_a abuse_n even_o to_o the_o ruin_n of_o the_o public_a and_o without_o any_o hope_n of_o amendment_n it_o can_v not_o be_v revoke_v again_o or_o moderate_v by_o another_o law_n and_o equal_a power_n to_o that_o which_o give_v it_o before_o therefore_o from_o first_o to_o last_o i_o think_v it_o be_v now_o clear_a enough_o that_o by_o the_o civil_a law_n no_o clerk_n be_v exempt_a in_o criminal_a cause_n from_o the_o supreme_a coercive_a power_n of_o such_o temporal_a prince_n or_o state_n under_o who_o they_o live_v lxix_o that_o neither_o by_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n i_o be_o now_o to_o prove_v wherein_o i_o find_v so_o little_a difficulty_n that_o notwithstanding_o the_o general_a error_n so_o wide_o spread_v or_o suppose_v among_o as_o well_o divine_n as_o canonist_n to_o the_o contrary_a but_o introduce_v at_o first_o and_o continue_v after_o out_o of_o some_o passage_n of_o council_n very_o ill_o understand_v consider_v or_o examine_v i_o dare_v say_v bold_o that_o not_o only_o none_o of_o all_o those_o council_n or_o canon_n of_o council_n allege_v for_o such_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a power_n but_o not_o even_o any_o of_o they_o allege_v for_o their_o exemption_n from_o as_o much_o as_o the_o subordinat_a civil_a power_n of_o inferior_a judicatories_n have_v any_o such_o matter_n at_o all_o though_o my_o purpose_n here_o be_v not_o other_o then_o to_o prove_v this_o truth_n for_o what_o concern_v the_o supreme_a power_n only_o to_o which_o purpose_n i_o affirm_v that_o no_o where_n in_o any_o council_n be_v it_o find_v that_o the_o father_n attribute_v such_o authority_n to_o themselves_o as_o by_o their_o own_o sole_a power_n to_o exempt_a clerk_n from_o lay_a tribunal_n â—_o or_o which_o be_v the_o same_o thing_n to_o deprive_v secular_a judge_n or_o magistrate_n of_o power_n empire_n command_n judgement_n coercion_n or_o jurisdiction_n over_o clerk_n or_o which_o also_o import_v the_o very_a same_o to_o prohibit_v the_o secular_a judge_n not_o to_o take_v cognizance_n of_o or_o give_v sentence_n in_o the_o cause_n either_o civil_a or_o criminal_a of_o clerk_n bring_v unto_o their_o tribunal_n or_o final_o and_o it_o be_v still_o in_o effect_n the_o same_o
of_o the_o rest_n none_o at_o all_o the_o first_o council_n then_o which_o decree_v any_o thing_n concern_v this_o point_n be_v the_o three_o council_n of_o carthage_n hold_v anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 307._o st._n augustine_n be_v one_o of_o the_o father_n and_o subscriber_n of_o it_o whereof_o the_o 9_o canon_n be_v of_o this_o tenor_n and_o very_a word_n item_n placuit_fw-la ut_fw-la quisquis_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la praesbyterorum_fw-la &_o diaconorum_fw-la seu_fw-la clericorum_fw-la cum_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la ei_fw-la crimen_fw-la fuerit_fw-la intentatum_fw-la vel_fw-la civilis_fw-la causa_fw-la fuerit_fw-la commota_fw-la si_fw-la relicto_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la judioiâ—_n publicis_fw-la judiciis_fw-la purgari_fw-la â—â—luerit_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la pro_fw-la ipso_fw-la fuerit_fw-la prolata_fw-la sententia_fw-la locum_fw-la suum_fw-la amittat_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la in_o criminali_fw-la judicio_fw-la in_o civili_fw-la vero_fw-la perdat_fw-la quod_fw-la evicit_fw-la si_fw-la locum_fw-la suum_fw-la obtinere_fw-la voluerit_fw-la cui_fw-la enim_fw-la ad_fw-la eligendos_fw-la judices_fw-la undique_fw-la patet_fw-la authoritas_fw-la ipse_fw-la se_fw-la indignum_fw-la fraterno_fw-la câ—nsortiâ—_n judicat_fw-la qui_fw-la de_fw-la universa_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la male_a sentiendo_fw-la de_fw-la judicio_fw-la seculari_fw-la poscit_fw-la auxilium_fw-la cum_fw-la privatorum_fw-la christianorum_fw-la causas_fw-la apostolus_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la deferri_fw-la atque_fw-la ibi_fw-la determinari_fw-la praecipiat_fw-la also_o we_o have_v ordain_v that_o if_o any_o bishop_n priest_n deacon_n or_o other_o clerk_n be_v charge_v in_o or_o before_o the_o church_n with_o a_o crime_n or_o have_v but_o even_o a_o civil_a suit_n commence_v against_o he_o shall_v decline_v ecclesiastical_a judgement_n and_o choose_v rather_o to_o have_v his_o cause_n try_v in_o public_a court_n or_o judicatories_n though_o he_o have_v sentence_n give_v for_o he_o yet_o he_o shall_v loose_v his_o place_n and_o this_o in_o a_o criminal_a judgement_n but_o in_o a_o civil_a that_o he_o forgo_v what_o he_o have_v win_v if_o he_o desire_v to_o hold_v his_o place_n for_o he_o that_o be_v at_o full_a liberty_n to_o choose_v his_o judge_n where_o he_o will_v show_v himself_o unworthy_a of_o the_o fellowship_n of_o his_o brother_n when_o judge_v ill_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n he_o sue_v to_o secular_a judicatories_n for_o help_n whereas_o the_o apostle_n command_v that_o the_o cause_n of_o private_a christian_n be_v bring_v to_o the_o church_n and_o there_o determine_v be_v there_o i_o beseech_v you_o any_o word_n here_o out_o of_o which_o may_v be_v gather_v by_o any_o probable_a consequence_n that_o this_o council_n intend_v to_o exempt_a clergyman_n from_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o secular_a magistrate_n or_o to_o declare_v that_o no_o laic_n be_v lawful_a judge_n in_o any_o cause_n of_o the_o clergy_n so_o little_a of_o any_o such_o matter_n that_o on_o the_o contrary_a the_o whole_a tenor_n show_v plain_o enough_o those_o african_a father_n believe_v that_o laic_n be_v always_o very_o legal_a and_o competent_a judge_n in_o the_o politic_a or_o temporal_a cause_n of_o clerk_n and_o show_v plain_o enough_o those_o father_n endeavour_v only_o by_o this_o canon_n to_o bridle_v the_o stubborness_n and_o restrain_v the_o giddiness_n of_o such_o clerk_n as_o when_o their_o cause_n be_v already_o begin_v to_o be_v debate_v in_o the_o church_n before_o ecclesiastical_a arbiter_n do_v nevertheless_o without_o any_o cause_n and_o before_o sentence_n renounce_v they_o and_o run_v to_o the_o secular_a judge_n for_o a_o determination_n in_o which_o case_n yet_o this_o council_n disallow_v not_o the_o sentence_n give_v by_o the_o secular_a judge_n nor_o pronounce_v he_o to_o be_v no_o competent_a judge_n but_o only_o for_o punishment_n of_o the_o levity_n and_o improbity_n of_o such_o a_o clerk_n prescribe_v he_o to_o quit_v the_o benefit_n of_o such_o a_o sentence_n or_o else_o to_o loose_v his_o place_n but_o that_o those_o father_n at_o the_o same_o time_n acknowledge_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o be_v lawful_a judge_n of_o clerk_n may_v hence_o be_v sufficient_o evict_v that_o they_o restrain_v this_o decree_n to_o that_o case_n only_o wherein_o a_o crime_n be_v in_o the_o church_n that_o be_v before_o a_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n charge_v on_o a_o clergieman_n or_o a_o civil_a suit_n commence_v against_o he_o in_o the_o church_n quo_fw-la crimen_fw-la clerico_n in_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la fuerit_fw-la intentatum_fw-la aut_fw-la civilis_fw-la causa_fw-la commota_fw-la out_o of_o these_o two_o case_n therefore_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o a_o clerk_n notwithstanding_o this_o canon_n to_o have_v recourse_n to_o lay_v judicatory_n and_o secular_a public_a judge_n how_o clear_a soever_o this_o matter_n be_v yet_o bellarmine_n will_v needs_o argue_v against_o it_o in_o his_o book_n against_o william_n barclay_n cap._n 34._o where_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o himself_o see_v in_o this_o canon_n many_o thing_n for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n primum_fw-la enim_fw-la say_v he_o aperâ—è_fw-la damnant_fw-la patres_fw-la recursum_fw-la ad_fw-la judicia_fw-la secularium_fw-la magistratuum_fw-la quod_fw-la certe_fw-la non_fw-la facerent_fw-la si_fw-la seculares_fw-la magistratus_fw-la omni_fw-la ex_fw-la parte_fw-la legittimi_fw-la judices_fw-la ecclesiasticorum_fw-la fuissent_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o first_o say_z he_o the_o father_n open_o condemn_v a_o recourse_n to_o secular_a magistrate_n which_o true_o they_o will_v not_o have_v do_v if_o the_o secular_a magistrate_n be_v in_o all_o respect_v lawful_a judge_n of_o ecclesiastic_n for_o what_o sin_n or_o fault_n have_v it_o be_v to_o appeal_v from_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o bishop_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o province_n or_o of_o the_o prince_n himself_o if_o the_o precedent_n or_o prince_n be_v a_o lawful_a judge_n not_o only_o of_o the_o clerk_n but_o 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citra_fw-la imperialem_fw-la jussionem_fw-la permittimus_fw-la sed_fw-la judicem_fw-la qui_fw-la
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&_o patriarcham_fw-la diocesee_v illius_fw-la referatur_fw-la causa_fw-la et_fw-la ille_fw-la secundam_fw-la canon_n &_o leges_fw-la huic_fw-la praebeat_fw-la finem_fw-la final_o but_o yet_o moreover_o after_o quote_v the_o law_n of_o gratianus_n valentinianus_n and_o theodosius_n out_o of_o the_o code_n l._n vii_o titu_fw-la xlvii_o constit_fw-la iii_o in_o the_o point_n of_o nullity_n of_o a_o sentence_n when_o pronounce_v a_o non_fw-la svo_fw-la judice_fw-la and_o the_o law_n of_o arcadius_n &_o honorius_n c._n l._n ix_o titu_fw-la i._o censtit_fw-la xx._n in_o the_o point_n of_o accusation_n make_v by_o servant_n or_o slave_n except_o only_o the_o case_n of_o treason_n or_o crime_n against_o majesty_n and_o the_o judgement_n of_o modestinus_n the_o lawyer_n ad_fw-la legem_fw-la juliam_fw-la majestatis_fw-la l._n famosi_n lib._n pandectarum_fw-la xlviii_o in_o the_o point_n of_o credit_n not_o to_o be_v give_v to_o such_o accuser_n even_o in_o such_o a_o crime_n if_o the_o life_n 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de_fw-fr potest_fw-la eccles._n sect_n 7._o prop._n 2._o where_o he_o write_v thus_o clerici_fw-la sunt_fw-la exempti_fw-la a_o tributis_fw-la non_fw-la jure_fw-la divino_fw-la sed_fw-la priâ—ulegio_fw-la principuâ—_n hoc_fw-la express_v dicit_fw-la d._n thomas_n super_fw-la illum_fw-la locum_fw-la roman_n 13._o ideo_fw-la enim_fw-la &_o tributa_fw-la praestatis_fw-la et_fw-la dicit_fw-la hanc_fw-la exemptionem_fw-la habere_fw-la equitatem_fw-la quamâ—â—â—_n non_fw-la autem_fw-la necessitatem_fw-la that_o final_o however_o this_o be_v certain_o true_a yet_o soto_n infer_v out_o of_o that_o reason_n of_o st._n thomas_n not_o a_o congruency_n but_o a_o necessity_n for_o as_o we_o have_v see_v before_o thus_o he_o discourse_v whereas_o tribut_n custom_n and_o other_o public_a tax_n be_v pay_v to_o king_n for_o their_o maintenance_n and_o as_o a_o reward_n or_o satisfaction_n for_o the_o labour_n they_o undergo_v in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n and_o whereas_o 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inferior_a priest_n in_o the_o confessional_a seat_n or_o other_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n to_o they_o and_o who_o see_v not_o that_o as_o that_o consequent_a of_o barclay_n follow_v manifest_o and_o necessary_o out_o of_o the_o antecedent_n once_o admit_v because_o that_o as_o i_o have_v already_o prove_v and_o as_o barclay_n too_o allege_v lex_fw-la christi_fw-la neminem_fw-la private_a jure_fw-la dominioque_fw-la svo_fw-la &c_n &c_n even_o so_o it_o must_v follow_v and_o whether_o it_o follow_v or_o not_o it_o be_v clear_a enough_o in_o itself_o that_o bellarmine_n reason_n to_o the_o contrary_a or_o to_o show_v this_o consequence_n to_o be_v vicious_a or_o ill_o infer_v be_v a_o most_o pitiful_a unsignificant_a one_o indeed_o and_o as_o such_o by_o i_o very_o often_o answer_v already_o for_o how_o many_o time_n be_v it_o answer_v before_o that_o the_o pope_n as_o pope_n be_v by_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n appoint_v the_o chief_a superintendent_n or_o
he_o can_v use_v mean_n to_o compel_v the_o prince_n themselves_o to_o exempt_v they_o so_o de_fw-la jure_fw-la or_o be_v it_o to_o command_v prince_n under_o the_o prescribe_a penalty_n that_o they_o shall_v suffer_v clerk_n to_o be_v and_o live_v de_fw-fr facto_fw-la at_o liberty_n who_o he_o himself_o have_v already_o or_o de_fw-fr jure_fw-la set_v at_o liberty_n and_o if_o this_o be_v the_o pope_n design_n in_o fulminate_v such_o censure_n then_o be_v it_o also_o plain_a that_o this_o very_a allegation_n destroy_v that_o vain_a pretence_n of_o any_o material_a diversity_n or_o difference_n in_o the_o case_n for_o that_o i_o may_v omit_v what_o i_o say_v a_o little_a before_o viz._n that_o christian_a prince_n may_v be_v find_v i_o shall_v rather_o say_v that_o all_o christian_a prince_n be_v de_fw-fr facto_fw-la such_o who_o will_v be_v no_o more_o effectual_o compel_v or_o move_v to_o manumise_n de_fw-fr facto_fw-la such_o vast_a number_n of_o citizen_n or_o subject_n than_o the_o 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be_v subject_a in_o temporal_a matter_n tâ—_n king_n and_o king_n to_o bishop_n in_o spiritual_a episcopi_fw-la regibus_fw-la in_o temporalibus_fw-la relâ—us_fw-la &_o reges_fw-la episcopis_fw-la in_o spiritualibus_fw-la subjecti_fw-la esse_fw-la debebunt_fw-la yet_o after_o such_o concession_n and_o notwithstanding_o such_o affirmation_n and_o allegation_n when_o the_o same_o be_v urge_v against_o himself_o to_o some_o purpose_n by_o william_n barclay_n he_o fly_v present_o to_o his_o vain_a distinction_n and_o reserve_a sense_n how_o inconsistent_a soever_o with_o any_o kind_n of_o rational_a or_o material_a sense_n first_o he_o tell_v â—od_n c._n 28._o l._n 1._o de_fw-fr cler._n that_o although_o he_o say_v in_o his_o above_o second_o proposition_n that_o clerk_n be_v not_o exempti_fw-la from_o the_o obligation_n of_o the_o civil_a law_n which_o be_v not_o contrary_a to_o the_o sacred_a canon_n or_o clerical_a office_n yet_o as_o he_o mean_v only_o those_o politic_a law_n which_o direct_v humane_a action_n in_o temporal_a commerce_n as_o for_o example_n when_o the_o prince_n or_o lay_v magistrate_n ordain_v a_o certain_a price_n of_o vendible_a thing_n or_o command_n that_o none_o go_v abroad_o with_o arm_n at_o night_n or_o without_o light_n or_o that_o none_o transport_v or_o export_v corn_n out_o of_o the_o province_n and_o the_o like_a so_o his_o meaning_n be_v not_o that_o by_o such_o law_n clergieman_n be_v bind_v â—verciâ—ely_o obligatione_fw-la â—â—actina_fw-la for_o these_o be_v his_o own_o word_n but_o only_o that_o they_o be_v bind_v by_o that_o kind_n of_o obligation_n which_o be_v call_v and_o be_v sole_o directive_n sâ—lum_fw-la directiva_fw-la be_v his_o own_o word_n also_o if_o peradventure_o the_o same_o civil_a law_n be_v not_o approve_v by_o the_o church_n and_o that_o if_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n have_v order_v or_o dispose_v of_o the_o very_a same_o temporal_a thing_n that_o be_v have_v ordain_v or_o prescribe_v how_o man_n 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force_n or_o virtue_n of_o reason_n but_o prove_v not_o they_o be_v bind_v vi_fw-la legis_fw-la by_o virtue_n of_o the_o civil_a law_n itself_o and_o say_v he_o have_v no_o other_o meaning_n that_o be_v mean_v no_o other_o kind_n of_o bond_n or_o obligation_n when_o or_o where_o he_o bring_v in_o his_o book_n of_o clerk_n cap._n 28._o that_o argument_n of_o clerk_n their_o be_v citizen_n or_o certain_a part_n of_o the_o politic_a state_n to_o prove_v his_o above_o second_o proposition_n or_o that_o clerk_n be_v not_o exempt_a from_o the_o obligation_n of_o the_o civil_a law_n which_o be_v not_o repugnant_a to_o the_o sacred_a canon_n or_o clerical_a office_n three_o he_o say_v cap._n 15._o lib._n contra_fw-la barclaium_n that_o franciscus_n romulus_n in_o the_o above_o quote_v place_n speak_v only_o of_o that_o subjection_n the_o subjectione_n quam_fw-la habebant_fw-la episcopi_fw-la &_o alii_fw-la clerici_fw-la ad_fw-la observandos_fw-la leges_fw-la politic_n etc._n etc._n which_o 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people_n in_o such_o matter_n according_a to_o what_o be_v from_o the_o beginning_n teach_v by_o which_o very_a consideration_n that_o constantine_n himself_o be_v very_o much_o induâ—ced_v â—o_o interess_n himself_o in_o these_o matter_n of_o faith_n even_o himself_o also_o write_v apud_fw-la â—arrâ—nium_fw-la tom_fw-mi 3._o a_o 313._o n._n 37._o lest_o otherwise_o he_o shall_v have_v see_v dangerous_a trouble_n and_o commotion_n in_o his_o empire_n and_o thence_o have_v suffer_v also_o very_o much_o in_o his_o reputation_n as_o not_o govern_v well_o or_o prudent_o or_o also_o as_o have_v imprudent_o embrace_v that_o religion_n who_o professor_n he_o can_v not_o keep_v in_o peace_n or_o unity_n among_o themselves_o of_o which_o consideration_n and_o judgement_n of_o constantine_n or_o rather_o of_o which_o power_n and_o authority_n of_o constantine_n or_o indeed_o of_o both_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o st._n augustine_n speak_v ep_v 162._o where_o he_o write_v thus_o quasi_fw-la 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genuine_a authority_n of_o a_o emperor_n and_o even_o of_o a_o christian_a emperor_n who_o duty_n it_o be_v when_o the_o ecclesiastic_n themselves_o alone_o can_v end_v or_o compose_v their_o own_o dissension_n that_o he_o by_o his_o own_o supreme_a authority_n assist_v and_o promote_v their_o agreement_n and_o even_o force_v they_o to_o a_o just_a and_o equitable_a agreement_n which_o the_o milevitan_a council_n approve_v in_o effect_n canone_o 19_o and_o ponitur_fw-la xi_o q._n 1._o c._n 11._o and_o in_o these_o term_n placuit_fw-la ut_fw-la quicumque_fw-la ab_fw-la imperatore_n cognitionem_fw-la judiciorum_fw-la publicorum_fw-la petierit_fw-la honore_fw-la proprio_fw-la privetur_fw-la si_fw-mi autem_fw-la episcopale_n judicium_fw-la ab_fw-la imperatore_n postulaverit_fw-la nihil_fw-la ei_fw-la obsit_fw-la but_o that_o constantine_n do_v in_o aftertime_n adorn_v and_o magnify_v the_o church_n or_o churchman_n with_o most_o singular_a and_o most_o ample_a privilege_n concern_v civil_a judgement_n or_o judgement_n in_o civil_a affair_n this_o he_o do_v not_o as_o baronius_n tom_n 3._o a_o 314._o n._n 37._o will_v make_v we_o believe_v he_o do_v to_o correct_v or_o by_o way_n of_o correction_n of_o those_o former_a judgement_n of_o his_o own_o in_o the_o say_a or_o like_a affair_n of_o ecclesiastical_a person_n which_o judgement_n our_o great_a annalist_n say_v be_v undue_o and_o unjust_o usurp_v by_o the_o emperor_n but_o do_v so_o or_o give_v such_o privilege_n out_o of_o his_o mere_a liberality_n and_o piety_n always_o nevertheless_o reserve_v his_o own_o proper_a supreme_a and_o general_a and_o imperial_a authority_n to_o provide_v upon_o emergency_n by_o himself_o or_o by_o such_o other_o as_o he_o shall_v think_v fit_a to_o depute_v for_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o churchman_n as_o often_o as_o he_o see_v need_v however_o let_v we_o proceed_v in_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n which_o be_v our_o proper_a subject_n here_o for_o notwithstanding_o the_o aforesaid_a judgement_n also_o of_o the_o council_n of_o orleans_n the_o donatist_n yet_o appeal_v even_o from_o it_o and_o the_o second_o time_n to_o the_o emperor_n himself_o against_o and_o in_o that_o cause_n of_o cecilian_a and_o the_o emperor_n admit_v again_o their_o appeal_n judge_n the_o matter_n himself_o absolve_v cecilian_a and_o condemn_v the_o donatist_n st._n augustine_n be_v my_o author_n and_o witness_n ep_v 48._o and_o epist_n 162._o where_o yet_o he_o neither_o accuse_v nor_o reprehend_v the_o emperor_n nor_o do_v cecilian_n except_v but_o obey_v and_o free_o present_v himself_o to_o be_v judge_v by_o the_o emperor_n for_o it_o be_v a_o criminal_a judgement_n that_o be_v the_o matter_n debate_v be_v a_o crime_n charge_v upon_o he_o nay_o st._n augustine_n open_o say_v and_o aver_v that_o neither_o the_o accuse_v or_o appeal_n bishop_n themselves_o be_v to_o be_v reprehend_v on_o this_o account_n that_o they_o draw_v or_o bring_v the_o affair_n or_o cause_n of_o or_o accusation_n against_o other_o bishop_n to_o a_o lay_v secular_a judicatory_a for_o thus_o he_o write_v ep_v 48._o si_fw-mi autem_fw-la sicut_fw-la falso_fw-la arbitramini_fw-la veer_fw-la criminosum_fw-la caecilianum_fw-la judicandum_fw-la terrenis_fw-la potestatibus_fw-la tradiderant_fw-la quid_fw-la objicitis_fw-la quod_fw-la uâ—strorum_fw-la praesumptio_fw-la primitus_fw-la fecit_fw-la he_o speak_v to_o the_o late_a donatist_n quod_fw-la eos_fw-la non_fw-la arguerimus_fw-la say_v he_o quia_fw-la fecerunt_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la animo_fw-la invido_fw-la &_o noxio_fw-la sed_fw-la emendandi_fw-la &_o corrigendi_fw-la voluntate_fw-la fecissent_fw-la therefore_o st._n augustine_n say_v that_o where_o and_o when_o the_o dispute_n concern_v the_o correction_n and_o amendment_n of_o ecclesiastic_n to_o demand_v the_o judgement_n or_o sentence_n and_o to_o appeal_v to_o the_o power_n of_o earthly_a prince_n be_v not_o reprehensible_a if_o the_o accuser_n proceed_v not_o in_o such_o or_o indeed_o any_o other_o application_n out_o of_o envy_n or_o malice_n concern_v this_o second_o admission_n of_o constantine_n or_o indeed_o rather_o concern_v his_o whole_a procedure_n in_o this_o affair_n by_o admit_v any_o appeal_n at_o all_o or_o
18._o these_o bishop_n have_v be_v precondemn_v in_o the_o council_n i_o must_v again_o advertise_v the_o reader_n that_o the_o council_n never_o condemn_v any_o otherwise_o then_o by_o declare_v he_o a_o heretic_n and_o excommunicate_a or_o at_o most_o to_o be_v deprive_v of_o or_o depose_v from_o his_o see_n that_o beside_o that_o pre-damnation_n especial_o to_o exile_n no_o where_n appear_v in_o council_n nay_o that_o st._n hierom_n in_o chron._n ubi_fw-la de_fw-la maximino_fw-la treverensi_fw-la not_o acknowledgeing_a these_o pre-damnation_n affirm_v express_o constantinum_n quaesivisse_fw-la ad_fw-la paenam_fw-la athanasium_fw-la that_o constantine_n seek_v for_o athanasius_n to_o punishment_n and_o certain_o felix_n the_o aptungitan_a bishop_n who_o be_v the_o orderer_n that_o be_v the_o consecrator_n of_o cecilian_a about_o who_o the_o great_a contest_v be_v be_v by_o the_o command_n or_o warrant_v of_o the_o same_o constantine_n send_v to_o his_o proconsul_n in_o africa_n helianus_n to_o be_v judge_v by_o he_o augustinus_n post_n collat_n ep_v 33_o &_o ep_v 152._o &_o opt._n and_o photinus_n condemn_v in_o the_o general_a council_n of_o sardica_n obtain_v new_a judge_n from_o the_o very_a self_n same_o constantine_n as_o epiphan_n heres_fw-la 71._o tell_v the_o before_o often_o mention_v st._n athanasius_n be_v to_o the_o say_v pious_a and_o great_a emperor_n constantine_n accuse_v as_o a_o homicide_n or_o of_o have_v murder_v arsenius_n and_o constantine_n commit_v the_o cognizance_n hereof_o as_o we_o have_v touch_v before_o to_o delmatiuâ—s_n the_o censor_n of_o antioch_n a_o mere_a lay_v officer_n of_o the_o empire_n that_o he_o may_v proceed_v therein_o as_o a_o judge_n delegat_fw-la for_o very_o so_o do_v st._n athanasius_n himself_o in_o apol._n and_o for_o to_o defend_v his_o own_o innocency_n in_o that_o matter_n tell_v we_o and_o yet_o he_o do_v not_o upbraid_v the_o emperor_n nor_o at_o all_o object_n to_o he_o that_o his_o majesty_n have_v 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understand_v to_o mean_v first_o that_o priest_n have_v a_o spiritual_a power_n from_o god_n to_o judge_v even_o himself_o spiritual_o or_o in_o a_o spiritual_a way_n and_o by_o a_o mere_a kind_n of_o spiritual_a judgement_n or_o in_o relation_n only_o to_o his_o spirit_n to_o wit_n by_o declare_v to_o he_o wherein_o he_o have_v sin_v and_o by_o remit_v or_o retain_v his_o sin_n by_o their_o judicial_a absolution_n or_o censure_n in_o the_o confessional_a seat_n or_o penitential_a court_n of_o conscience_n but_o not_o that_o they_o have_v a_o power_n external_a and_o temporal_a or_o coercive_a of_o he_o in_o his_o mere_a temporal_n or_o by_o any_o sentence_n at_o all_o transfer_v his_o temporal_a or_o civil_a right_n or_o jurisdiction_n or_o able_a to_o bereave_v he_o of_o any_o such_o or_o oblige_v he_o to_o submit_v his_o say_a temporal_a right_n to_o they_o second_o that_o mere_a layman_n can_v not_o judge_v of_o they_o in_o cause_n proper_o ecclesiastical_a and_o spiritual_a such_o 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i_o mean_v here_o partly_o out_o of_o the_o general_a chronicle_n of_o italy_n germany_n hungary_n venice_n spain_n france_n england_n before_o the_o suppresion_n or_o change_n by_o henry_n the_o eight_o &c._n &c._n and_o partly_o also_o out_o of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a annal_n of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o these_o very_a late_a age_n of_o it_o but_o in_o particular_a out_o of_o these_o very_a annal_n compile_v by_o the_o often_o quote_v henricus_n spondanus_n a_o catholic_n bishop_n of_o france_n and_o the_o continuer_n of_o the_o annal_n of_o baronius_n from_o the_o year_n 1198._o wherein_o baronius_n end_v until_o the_o year_n 1640._o which_o put_v a_o end_n also_o to_o these_o annal_n of_o spondanus_n but_o for_o that_o reason_n i_o now_o give_v i_o forbear_v insist_v upon_o or_o enlarge_n myself_o upon_o or_o indeed_o produce_v at_o all_o here_o any_o of_o all_o these_o latter_a instance_n lxxiv_o therefore_o to_o proceed_v from_o those_o other_o particular_a instance_n which_o 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great_a vanity_n and_o folly_n and_o nonsense_n can_v be_v because_o sacrilege_n either_o proper_o or_o improper_o strict_o or_o large_o take_v must_v be_v a_o sin_n and_o therefore_o against_o some_o true_a bind_a law_n divine_a or_o humane_a and_o therefore_o also_o must_v be_v a_o violation_n of_o some_o right_n belong_v to_o divine_a person_n or_o thing_n and_o belong_v to_o they_o by_o some_o law_n divine_a or_o humane_a positive_a or_o natural_a and_o consequent_o too_o must_v be_v a_o injurious_a breach_n of_o their_o privilege_n or_o right_v by_o some_o such_o law_n but_o herein_o or_o in_o these_o bare_a word_n and_o sense_n of_o they_o as_o explain_v by_o the_o other_o follow_v word_n be_v no_o sin_n because_o no_o such_o violation_n or_o breach_n be_v there_o be_v no_o law_n to_o the_o contrary_a in_o the_o case_n nay_o be_v all_o law_n divine_a and_o humane_a positive_a and_o natural_a be_v for_o those_o word_n and_o sense_n of_o they_o as_o explain_v by_o the_o other_o 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