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dedicate_v the_o whole_a church_n dedicate_v he_o to_o god_n by_o prayer_n and_o yet_o do_v lay_v on_o hand_n so_o that_o mere_a dedication_n to_o god_n in_o the_o learned_a bishop_n sense_n as_o distinct_a from_o ordination_n can_v be_v the_o meaning_n of_o this_o ceremony_n but_o i_o pray_v what_o be_v ordination_n itself_o but_o a_o dedication_n of_o the_o person_n to_o god_n for_o the_o ministry_n what_o more_o do_v the_o bishop_n do_v in_o confer_v the_o ministry_n he_o can_v confer_v it_o by_o a_o mere_a physical_a contact_n if_o so_o every_o touch_n of_o his_o hand_n on_o the_o head_n of_o a_o man_n woman_n or_o child_n will_v make_v they_o minister_n it_o must_v be_v therefore_o by_o a_o moral_a act_n that_o he_o do_v it_o i._n e._n by_o lay_v on_o hand_n on_o a_o fit_a person_n according_a to_o the_o appointment_n of_o god_n to_o dedicate_v he_o to_o god_n for_o the_o ministry_n the_o power_n be_v immediate_o from_o christ_n and_o not_o from_o the_o bishop_n man_n do_v but_o open_v the_o door_n or_o determine_v the_o person_n that_o from_o christ_n shall_v receive_v the_o power_n and_o then_o put_v he_o solemn_o into_o possession_n act_v 20.28_o the_o moderate_a asserter_n of_o episcopacy_n do_v acknowledge_v that_o the_o presbyter_n lay_v on_o hand_n as_o ordainer_n 163._o imponunt_fw-la manus_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la ..._o tanquam_fw-la ordinantes_fw-la seu_fw-la ordinem_fw-la conferentes_fw-la &_o ex_fw-la potestate_fw-la ordinandi_fw-la divinitus_fw-la accepta_fw-la gratiam_fw-la ordinato_fw-la hoc_fw-la adhibito_fw-la ritu_fw-la apprecantes_fw-la with_o who_o agree_v the_o archbishop_n of_o spalleto_n 187._o dr._n fulk_n speak_v to_o the_o same_o purpose_n in_o his_o anti-rhemish_a annotation_n 2._o object_n where_o do_v you_o read_v that_o presbyter_n do_v ordain_v without_o a_o bishop_n answ._n this_o objection_n grant_v my_o argument_n that_o presbyter_n have_v power_n of_o ordination_n but_o not_o to_o be_v put_v forth_o without_o the_o bishop_n admit_v they_o have_v a_o inherent_a power_n and_o it_o be_v all_o i_o plead_v for_o i_o be_o sure_a no_o law_n of_o god_n restrain_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o while_o it_o be_v manage_v regular_o for_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o church_n we_o oppose_v not_o any_o rule_n of_o order_n while_o the_o main_a end_n be_v promote_v the_o old_a canon_n restrain_v the_o bishop_n that_o he_o must_v not_o ordain_v without_o his_o presbyter_n 22._o we_o may_v say_v as_o well_o then_o that_o bishop_n have_v no_o power_n to_o ordain_v because_o they_o be_v not_o ordinary_o to_o do_v it_o without_o their_o presbyter_n all_o the_o ordination_n of_o presbyter_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o in_o the_o three_o first_o century_n be_v do_v by_o presbyter_n without_o bishop_n of_o the_o present_a species_n i._n e._n the_o sole_a governor_n of_o 100_o or_o 200_o church_n for_o there_o be_v no_o such_o bishop_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n as_o have_v be_v prove_v by_o several_a hand_n clarkson_n the_o very_a office_n be_v humane_a and_o new_a the_o primitive_a bishop_n be_v but_o the_o chief_a presbyter_n who_o be_v precedent_n for_o order_n sake_n but_o pretend_v not_o to_o be_v of_o a_o superior_a order_n bishop_n usher_v answer_v this_o objection_n from_o the_o example_n of_o the_o church_n of_o alexandria_n as_o mr._n b._n affirm_v which_o shall_v be_v consider_v anon_o when_o we_o come_v to_o instance_n of_o ordain_v presbyter_n in_o antiquity_n chap._n vii_o among_o the_o jew_n any_o one_o that_o be_v ordain_v himself_o may_v ordain_v another_o prove_v from_o dr._n lightfoot_n mr._n selden_n p._n cuneus_n vi_o if_o among_o the_o jew_n any_o one_o that_o be_v ordain_v himself_o may_v ordain_v another_o then_o may_v presbyter_n ordain_v presbyter_n but_o the_o former_a be_v true_a therefore_o etc._n etc._n the_o consequence_n of_o the_o major_n be_v found_v upon_o that_o which_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o most_o learned_a man_n that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n be_v form_v after_o the_o jewish_a pattern_n the_o minor_a i_o prove_v from_o dr._n lightfoot_n 612._o thus_o he_o before_o they_o have_v restrain_v themselves_o of_o their_o own_o liberty_n than_o the_o general_a rule_n for_o ordination_n among_o they_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d every_o one_o regular_o ordain_v himself_o have_v the_o power_n of_o ordain_v his_o disciple_n as_o ben_n maimon_n affirm_v mr._n selden_n give_v many_o instance_n to_o this_o purpose_n out_o of_o gemar_fw-la babylon_n de_fw-fr synedr_n lib._n 2._o c._n 7._o §_o 1._o but_o in_o the_o time_n of_o hiâ—lel_n they_o be_v restrain_v from_o 〈◊〉_d former_a liberty_n whether_o out_o of_o vâ—â—â—â—ration_n to_o his_o house_n or_o whether_o from_o the_o inconveniency_n of_o such_o common_a ordination_n be_v not_o certain_a and_o so_o it_o be_v resolve_v that_o none_o may_v ordain_v without_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o prince_n of_o the_o sanhedrin_n or_o a_o licence_n from_o he_o per_fw-la insigne_fw-la est_fw-la say_v p._n cunoeus_fw-la quod_fw-la r._n maimonides_n tradidit_fw-la in_o salach_n 12._o sanhed_n c._n 4._o cum_fw-la enim_fw-la olim_fw-la solennem_fw-la hunc_fw-la actum_fw-la pro_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la svo_fw-la omnes_fw-la celebrarent_fw-la quibus_fw-la imposita_fw-la semel_fw-la manus_fw-la fuerat_fw-la coarctatum_fw-la esse_fw-la id_fw-la jus_o à _fw-la sapientibus_fw-la constitutúmque_fw-la ut_fw-la deinceps_fw-la nemo_fw-la illud_fw-la usurparet_fw-la nisi_fw-la cui_fw-la id_fw-la concessisset_fw-la divinus_fw-la senex_fw-la r._n hillel_n selden_n 14._o say_v that_o st._n paul_n create_v of_o presbyter_n be_v according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o create_v elder_n paul_n be_v bring_v up_o at_o the_o foot_n of_o gamaliel_n as_o his_o disciple_n this_o gamaliel_n be_v nephew_n or_o grandchild_n of_o hillel_n and_o prince_n of_o the_o sanhedrin_n at_o that_o time_n and_o therefore_o no_o doubt_n but_o he_o have_v create_v his_o scholar_n paul_n a_o jewish_a elder_a before_o he_o be_v a_o christian_a by_o virtue_n of_o which_o ordination_n in_o all_o likelihood_n the_o jew_n admit_v he_o to_o preach_v in_o their_o synagogue_n act_n 9_o 20._o now_o when_o paul_n become_v a_o apostle_n he_o know_v himself_o and_o other_o apostle_n to_o be_v free_a from_o the_o new_a law_n of_o not_o make_v elder_n without_o the_o licence_n of_o the_o prince_n of_o the_o sanhedrin_n which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v expect_v in_o their_o case_n for_o this_o r._n gamaliel_n though_o otherwise_o a_o fair_a man_n have_v a_o inveterate_a prejudice_n against_o the_o christian_n and_o authorize_v a_o prayer_n against_o they_o under_o the_o notion_n of_o heretic_n command_v its_o constant_a use_n in_o the_o synagogue_n as_o 278._o lightfoot_n observe_v out_o of_o maimonides_n which_o prayer_n be_v use_v among_o the_o jew_n to_o this_o day_n contain_v bitter_a curse_n and_o execration_n against_o the_o christian_n 5._o as_o buxtorf_n note_v 349._o dr._n hammond_n himself_o grant_v that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v form_v after_o the_o jewish_a manner_n though_o he_o reckon_v up_o many_o inconvenience_n which_o will_v follow_v promiscuous_a ordination_n the_o analogy_n between_o the_o government_n of_o the_o jewish_a synagogue_n and_o the_o christian_a church_n seem_v very_o evident_a in_o the_o case_n of_o deacon_n who_o succeed_v the_o jewish_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d parnasâ—n_n of_o which_o there_o be_v two_o or_o three_o in_o every_o synagogue_n to_o take_v care_n of_o the_o poor_a vide_fw-la lightf_n harm_n on_o act._n 6._o &_o 7._o to_o sum_v up_o this_o argument_n the_o case_n of_o presbyter_n in_o point_n of_o ordination_n be_v the_o same_o with_o that_o of_o jewish_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o elder_n every_o one_o that_o be_v ordain_v himself_o have_v original_o the_o power_n of_o ordain_v other_o the_o exercise_n of_o which_o power_n be_v afterward_o restrain_v by_o a_o canon_n of_o that_o church_n so_o 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jurisdiction_n and_o order_n give_v to_o presbyter_n and_o consequent_o power_n of_o ordination_n that_o ordination_n which_o be_v perform_v
by_o person_n who_o have_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n commit_v to_o they_o be_v valid_a vii_o but_o ordination_n by_o presbyter_n be_v perform_v by_o person_n who_o have_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n commit_v to_o they_o therefore_o it_o be_v valid_a the_o major_n i_o prove_v either_o ordination_n be_v a_o act_n of_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n or_o of_o some_o other_o power_n but_o of_o no_o other_o if_o any_o other_o it_o be_v either_o of_o a_o secular_a power_n or_o of_o a_o ecclesiastical_a but_o neither_o of_o these_o not_o a_o ecclesiastical_a for_o there_o be_v no_o ecclesiastical_a power_n at_o least_o which_o ordination_n can_v be_v pretend_v to_o belong_v to_o but_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n not_o of_o a_o secular_a power_n for_o that_o belong_v not_o to_o minister_n that_o the_o key_n do_v contain_v in_o they_o the_o power_n of_o ordination_n be_v acknowledge_v by_o papist_n and_o protestant_n particular_o by_o cornelius_n à _fw-fr lapide_fw-la chemnitius_n bucer_n chamier_n nomine_fw-la clavium_fw-la significatur_fw-la omnis_fw-la potestas_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la suppl_n cham._n lib._n 4._o c._n 4._o traditio_fw-la clavium_fw-la say_v camero_n 41._o symbolum_n est_fw-la potestatis_fw-la atque_fw-la auctoritatis_fw-la collatoe_n isa._n 22.22_o rev._n 3.7_o clavium_fw-la traditione_n doctorum_fw-la apud_fw-la judoeos_fw-la inauguratio_fw-la veteri_fw-la instituto_fw-la peragebatur_fw-la the_o key_n deliver_v to_o the_o jewish_a teacher_n include_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n for_o as_o we_o observe_v before_o every_o one_o regular_o ordain_v himself_o have_v the_o power_n of_o ordain_v his_o disciple_n maimon_n the_o minor_a be_v in_o part_n grant_v by_o all_o to_o wit_n that_o presbyter_n have_v the_o key_n of_o doctrine_n that_o they_o have_v the_o key_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o order_n also_o as_o some_o distinguish_v they_o i_o thus_o prove_v they_o that_o have_v the_o key_n of_o doctrine_n have_v also_o the_o key_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o order_n but_o presbyter_n have_v the_o former_a therefore_o they_o have_v the_o latter_a the_o major_n i_o thus_o prove_v christ_n give_v the_o key_n together_o and_o do_v not_o divide_v they_o therefore_o they_o that_o have_v the_o key_n of_o doctrine_n have_v the_o key_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o order_n to_o thou_o i_o give_v the_o key_n say_v our_o lord_n matth._n 16._o 19_o io._n 20.23_o he_o do_v not_o give_v one_o key_n to_o one_o and_o both_o to_o another_o he_o give_v no_o single_a key_n to_o any_o person_n but_o key_n and_o so_o whatever_o these_o key_n serve_v for_o we_o know_v no_o distribution_n of_o the_o key_n but_o what_o be_v ground_v upon_o scripture_n he_o that_o have_v the_o key_n of_o a_o house_n or_o castle_n deliver_v to_o he_o have_v power_n to_o admit_v or_o exclude_v person_n as_o he_o see_v cause_n except_o there_o be_v a_o limitation_n in_o his_o order_n or_o commission_n his_o power_n extend_v to_o all_o person_n without_o exception_n christ_n here_o do_v not_o limit_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n therefore_o if_o presbyter_n may_v admit_v church-member_n into_o the_o house_n of_o god_n by_o baptism_n they_o may_v admit_v church-officer_n by_o ordination_n chap._n ix_o all_o that_o have_v the_o power_n of_o order_n may_v confer_v it_o acknowledge_v by_o archbishop_n Ê‹sher_n and_o dr._n fern._n bishop_n and_o presbyter_n have_v the_o power_n of_o order_n equal_o prove_v 1._o by_o the_o ancient_a father_n 2._o by_o schoolman_n lombard_n bonaventure_n etc._n etc._n 3._o by_o the_o canonist_n gratian_n joh._n semeca_n etc._n etc._n 4._o by_o council_n as_o that_o of_o aquisgranum_n hispalis_n constance_n basil._n bishop_n not_o express_o determine_v a_o superior_a order_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n 5._o this_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o the_o old_a church_n of_o england_n in_o the_o canon_n of_o elfrick_n and_o by_o j._n wicklef_n lambert_n the_o martyr_n the_o provincial_a synod_n of_o 1537._o cranmer_z jewel_n morton_n bilson_n etc._n etc._n this_o truth_n be_v own_v by_o the_o now_o bishop_n of_o salisbury_n and_o by_o the_o bishop_n of_o worcester_n ordination_n by_o presbyter_n allow_v in_o the_o old_a church_n of_o england_n instance_n of_o it_o order_n confer_v by_o such_o as_o be_v in_o order_n viii_o and_o have_v the_o power_n of_o order_n equal_a with_o the_o high_a bishop_n be_v valid_a but_o order_v confer_v by_o presbyter_n be_v confer_v by_o such_o as_o be_v in_o order_n and_o have_v the_o power_n of_o order_n equal_o with_o the_o high_a bishop_n therefore_o order_v confer_v by_o presbyter_n be_v valid_a as_o to_o the_o major_n it_o be_v found_v on_o that_o maxim_n frequent_o use_v by_o archbishop_n usher_n ordinis_fw-la est_fw-la confer_v ordines_fw-la a_o man_n that_o be_v in_o order_n quoad_fw-la presbyteratum_fw-la may_v coeteris_fw-la paribus_fw-la confer_v order_n it_o be_v like_o generation_n or_o univocal_a causation_n this_o maxim_n be_v acknowledge_v by_o dr._n h._n fern_n 115_o in_o his_o compendious_a discourse_n p._n 115_o 116_o 117._o if_o among_o the_o papist_n man_n of_o a_o inferior_a order_n do_v make_v the_o pope_n and_o among_o ourselves_o bishop_n do_v make_v arch-bishop_n how_o much_o more_o may_v man_n of_o the_o same_o order_n give_v what_o they_o have_v that_o be_v ordinem_fw-la sacerdotii_fw-la as_o the_o schoolman_n call_v it_o why_o may_v not_o presbyter_n make_v presbyter_n as_o physician_n make_v physician_n all_o rank_n or_o order_n of_o being_n generate_v their_o own_o kind_n but_o the_o impotent_a order_n of_o presbyter_n must_v prove_v extinct_a if_o the_o favourable_a influence_n of_o a_o superior_a order_n do_v not_o propagate_v it_o by_o a_o sort_n of_o equivocal_a generation_n must_v presbyter_n be_v reckon_v among_o those_o monster_n in_o nature_n that_o can_v perpetuate_v themselves_o by_o propagation_n the_o minor_a that_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n have_v the_o 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eos_fw-la episcopos_fw-la fuisse_fw-la a_o non_fw-la qui_fw-la eos_fw-la ordinaverunt_fw-la ab_fw-la episcopo_fw-la svo_fw-la benedictiones_fw-la presbyteratus_n suscipiant_fw-la &_o consecrentur_fw-la &_o sic_fw-la ministerio_fw-la svo_fw-la fungantur_fw-la it_o be_v no_o wonder_n that_o this_o pope_n require_v re-ordination_a for_o now_o rome_n have_v usurp_v the_o universal_a headship_n and_o assume_v a_o power_n of_o depose_v and_o set_v up_o of_o prince_n as_o this_o man_n do_v in_o the_o case_n of_o childerik_n and_o pipin_n they_o that_o bring_v king_n and_o prince_n under_o they_o will_v much_o more_o make_v presbyter_n to_o depend_v upon_o they_o vi_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a decree_v thus_o concern_v the_o presbyter_n ordain_v by_o meletius_n at_o alexandria_n etc._n etc._n 226._o he_o autem_fw-la qui_fw-la dei_fw-la gratiâ_fw-la &_o nostris_fw-la precibus_fw-la adjuti_fw-la ad_fw-la nullum_fw-la schisma_fw-la deflexisse_fw-la comperti_fw-la sint_fw-la sed_fw-la se_fw-la 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do_v not_o prejudice_v our_o cause_n for_o the_o canon_n limit_n the_o power_n of_o confirmation_n as_o well_o as_o ordination_n to_o the_o bishop_n as_o be_v also_o the_o power_n of_o consecrate_v church_n if_o any_o shall_v take_v the_o word_n in_o that_o sense_n we_o may_v understand_v the_o meaning_n by_o a_o parallel_n place_n of_o hilary_n in_o ambrose_n 4._o who_o thus_o speak_v ideo_fw-la non_fw-la per_fw-la omne_fw-la conveniunt_fw-la scripta_fw-la apostoli_fw-la ordinationi_fw-la quae_fw-la nunc_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la haec_fw-la inter_fw-la ipsa_fw-la primordia_fw-la sunt_fw-la scripta_fw-la nam_fw-la &_o timotheum_n 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o presbyterum_fw-la à _fw-la se_fw-la creatum_fw-la episcopum_fw-la vocat_fw-la quia_fw-la primum_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la episcopi_fw-la appellabantur_fw-la ut_fw-la recedente_fw-la uno_fw-la sequens_fw-la ei_fw-la succederet_fw-la denique_fw-la apud_fw-la aegyptum_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la 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