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A51624 A Review of Mr. M.H.'s new notion of schism, and the vindication of it Murrey, Robert, fl. 1692-1715. 1692 (1692) Wing M3105; ESTC R5709 75,948 74

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meleti●ns_n be_v schismatic_n and_o 〈◊〉_d th●se_a 〈◊〉_d by_o meletius_n be_v receive_v into_o place_n where_o oth●●…_n 〈…〉_o though_o the_o paulianist_n and_o 〈◊〉_d be_v to_o be_v rebaptised_a 〈◊〉_d ordain_v by_o the_o 19_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a 〈…〉_o those_o ordain_o by_o the_o nova●●●…ns_n 8._o nova●●●…ns_n 〈…〉_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n c._n 8._o when_o reconcile_v to_o the_o church_n be_v to_o continue_v in_o the_o same_o station_n which_o they_o enjoy_v before_o except_a catholic_n be_v in_o possession_n by_o the_o 8_o ca●●…_n of_o the_o very_a same_o council_n from_o which_o instance_n it_o be_v plain_a t●●●…_n according_a 〈◊〉_d the_o sense_n of_o those_o father_n though_o schismatical_a 〈…〉_o ●●●…ieties_n be_v out_o of_o the_o church_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o wh●●…y_a d●u●st_n they_o 〈◊〉_d their_o character_n so_o as_o to_o make_v they_o no_o long_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d call_v power_n as_o this_o vindicator_n will_v insinuate_v nay_o the_o 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which_o and_o several_a other_o canon_n it_o become_v extreme_o difficult_a for_o any_o such_o heretic_n or_o schismatic_n who_o order_n they_o think_v void_a to_o make_v any_o considerable_a intercision_n in_o the_o line_n of_o succession_n but_o i_o can_v see_v no_o reason_n why_o the_o line_n of_o ordination_n may_v not_o pass_v through_o a_o schismatical_a church_n for_o although_o by_o schism_n people_n be_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o while_o they_o continue_v so_o not_o enjoy_v the_o benefit_n either_o of_o ordination_n or_o sacrament_n yet_o to_o say_v that_o ●●●h_n be_v absolute_o destroy_v and_o nullify_v so_o that_o a_o ●●●●…matick_a l●●●_n the_o character_n and_o can_v neither_o be_v a_o christian_a 〈…〉_o i._n e._n not_o the_o subject_a of_o apostolical_a power_n till_o he_o be_v 〈◊〉_d ●●●_o baptize_v and_o ordain_v be_v a_o assertion_n beyond_o all_o that_o i_o c●●●…d_v ever_o yet_o meet_v with_o the_o
the_o instance_n of_o popular_a election_n that_o can_v be_v find_v in_o scripture_n but_o from_o none_o of_o they_o be_v it_o evident_a that_o the_o election_n of_o the_o people_n do_v contribute_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v essential_a to_o holy_a order_n the_o reason_n why_o it_o be_v admit_v be_v that_o they_o may_v confer_v the_o power_n and_o character_n upon_o the_o best_a and_o most_o unexceptionable_a person_n such_o as_o be_v of_o honest_a report_n which_o can_v not_o so_o easy_o be_v know_v without_o consult_v the_o multitude_n oxon._n cyp._n ep._n lxviii_o ed._n oxon._n and_o this_o be_v all_o the_o use_v that_o st_n cyprian_n make_v of_o the_o aforementioned_a instance_n who_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v so_o order_v in_o the_o case_n of_o eleazar_n the_o son_n of_o aaron_n and_o aught_o to_o be_v so_o that_o the_o crime_n of_o ill_a man_n may_v be_v detect_v and_o the_o desert_n of_o good_a man_n extol_v and_o that_o the_o apostle_n proceed_v so_o diligent_o and_o wary_o in_o the_o choice_n of_o mathias_n and_o the_o seven_o deacon_n lest_o any_o unworthy_a person_n shall_v creep_v into_o the_o service_n of_o the_o altar_n or_o obtain_v the_o degree_n of_o priesthood_n and_o he_o add_v further_a that_o in_o his_o time_n it_o be_v the_o custom_n for_o the_o neighbour_a bishop_n of_o the_o same_o province_n to_o meet_v and_o choose_v a_o bishop_n in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o people_n who_o full_o understand_v each_o man_n life_n and_o after_o this_o manner_n they_o advance_v sabinus_n into_o the_o place_n of_o basilide_n all_o this_o seem_v to_o be_v plain_o allow_v by_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n which_o will_v have_v none_o to_o be_v make_v bishop_n but_o such_o as_o be_v of_o know_a and_o approve_a conversation_n 12._o con._n laod._n can._n 12._o and_o provide_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v constitute_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o discretion_n of_o the_o metropolitan_o and_o neighbour_a bishop_n in_o which_o po●…nts_v it_o agree_v 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church_n not_o except_v the_o very_a servant_n and_o second_o that_o it_o be_v the_o custom_n then_o in_o every_o congregation_n to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n every_o lord_n day_n and_o that_o they_o never_o receive_v it_o nisi_fw-la ex_fw-la antistitis_fw-la manu_fw-la but_o from_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o bishop_n what_o can_v such_o bishop_n be_v more_o than_o pastor_n of_o single_a congregation_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v polyc._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ignat._n ep._n ad_fw-la polyc._n first_o that_o ignatius_n do_v indeed_o require_v of_o the_o bishop_n to_o discourse_v people_n single_o as_o god_n shall_v enable_v he_o but_o how_o do_v this_o prove_v that_o he_o be_v to_o take_v a_o personal_a cognizance_n of_o every_o particular_a member_n of_o his_o church_n have_v he_o no_o body_n to_o assist_v he_o in_o the_o remote_a part_n of_o his_o charge_n why_o can_v no_o man_n else_o acquaint_v he_o with_o the_o frailty_n and_o misdemeanour_n of_o particular_a person_n but_o 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