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A49441 A treatise of the nature of a minister in all its offices to which is annexed an answer to Doctor Forbes concerning the necessity of bishops to ordain, which is an answer to a question, proposed in these late unhappy times, to the author, What is a minister? Lucy, William, 1594-1677. 1670 (1670) Wing L3455; ESTC R11702 218,889 312

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the_o character_n leave_v in_o baptism_n be_v and_o the_o definition_n of_o it_o 205._o in_o what_o predicament_n this_o character_n be_v 207._o the_o foundation_n of_o this_o character_n be_v the_o will_n of_o god_n 213._o 218._o durandus_fw-la hold_v this_o character_n to_o be_v ens_fw-la rationis_fw-la 215._o be_v oppose_v by_o all_o the_o schoolman_n but_o their_o argument_n do_v not_o confute_v he_o ibid._n the_o subject_a of_o this_o character_n be_v the_o whole_a man_n 221._o the_o table_n of_o the_o appendix_n a_o the_o apostle_n be_v bishop_n prove_v 233._o the_o first_o of_o the_o apostolical_a canon_n examine_v 249._o the_o anoint_v the_o bishop_n hand_n no_o necessary_a essential_a to_o his_o constituion_n 258._o sect._n 6._o athanasius_n testimony_n that_o mere_a presbyteer_n can_v not_o ordain_v even_o in_o alexandria_n 27●_n the_o council_n of_o antioch_n schismatical_a and_o illegal_a 274._o b_o bishop_n have_v ever_o be_v in_o the_o church_n 231._o whether_o three_o 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power_n to_o ordain_v 270._o the_o chori-episcopi_n have_v not_o power_n to_o ordain_v prove_v 274._o unless_o they_o be_v suffragans_fw-la 279._o &_o 282._o cresperius_n read_v of_o the_o canon_n of_o antioch_n allege_v for_o the_o chori-episcopi_n viz._n not_o praeter_fw-la but_o propter_fw-la conscientiam_fw-la episcopi_fw-la 278._o chori-episcopi_n be_v but_o presbyter_n because_o ordain_v by_o one_o bishop_n alone_o 282._o s._n 7._o ☞_o two_o sort_n of_o chori-episcopi_n p._n 283._o what_o they_o be_v 284._o d_o dr._n forbes_n argument_n answer_v from_o p._n 232_o to_o 284._o deacon_n not_o necessary_a in_o every_o parochial_a church_n 240._o difference_n in_o the_o form_n or_o word_n do_v not_o disannul_v a_o sacrament_n 256._o the_o distinction_n of_o order_n be_v know_v by_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o hand_n and_o the_o form_n of_o word_n as_o in_o our_o church_n use_v in_o the_o pronunciation_n of_o the_o blessing_n 265._o sect._n 2._o damasus_n his_o read_n upon_o the_o canon_n of_o antioch_n 276._o vid._n 279._o which_o do_v sufficient_o answer_v dr._n forbes_n his_o argument_n against_o all_o chori-episcopi_n have_v power_n of_o ordination_n answer_v 281._o his_o second_o argument_n answer_v 282._o decree_n of_o divers_a council_n examine_v 284_o 285._o e_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n not_o govern_v by_o mere_a elder_n but_o bishop_n 233._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d translate_v eligi_fw-la to_o be_v elect_v or_o choose_v 251._o lin_v 13_o elder_n be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n till_o the_o apostle_n ordain_v they_o 232_o what_o be_v essential_a to_o the_o constitution_n of_o a_o bishop_n 254._o explicatory_a addition_n do_v not_o destroy_v the_o notion_n of_o that_o which_o they_o explain_v 257._o in_o the_o end_n the_o only_a essential_a ceremony_n if_o any_o be_v in_o the_o consecration_n of_o bishop_n be_v the_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n 264._o the_o essence_n of_o ordination_n chief_o consist_v in_o the_o pronounce_v the_o blessing_n with_o the_o note_n of_o distinction_n of_o the_o order_n then_o confer_v 265._o vid._n 268._o s._n 4._o the_o error_n commit_v in_o the_o inauguration_n of_o pope_n no_o precedent_n for_o reform_a church_n in_o the_o consecration_n ●f_a bishop_n 269._o the_o church_n of_o england_n rite_n of_o consecration_n defend_v sect._n 4._o 268._o f_o dr._n forbes_n first_o argument_n from_o scripture_n answer_v 232._o his_o first_o argument_n to_o prove_v their_o ordination_n after_o bishop_n be_v institute_v answer_v 235._o his_o argument_n take_v out_o of_o johannes_n major_a answer_v from_o 235._o to_o 238._o his_o argument_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n answer_v 239._o his_o argument_n from_o deacon_n answer_v 240._o his_o argument_n from_o scripture_n answer_v ibid._n his_o argument_n out_o of_o st._n hierome_n answer_v 242._o his_o argument_n from_o pelagius_n ordination_n answer_v 244._o 245._o his_o argument_n from_o st._n ambrose_n and_o st._n augustine_n answer_v 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not_o sufficient_a for_o ordination_n 270._o ischyras_n be_v no_o priest_n because_o ordain_v by_o no_o bishop_n 272._o the_o begin_v isidore_n hispalensis_n his_o read_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o antioch_n make_v nothing_o for_o dr._n forbes_n 277._o l_o the_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n only_o essential_o necessary_a to_o the_o constitution_n of_o a_o bishop_n 264._o linus_n and_o clemens_n be_v chori-episcopi_n to_o st._n peter_n 284_o about_o the_o midst_n laodicean_n canon_n forbid_v the_o chori-episcopi_n to_o act_v any_o thing_n without_o the_o leave_n of_o their_o diocesan_n 285._o m_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n distinguish_v what_o order_n be_v confer_v 265._o s._n a._n moderation_n to_o be_v use_v towards_o every_o opponent_n though_o never_o so_o much_o mistake_v 278._o s._n 4._o n_o necessity_n only_o can_v justify_v the_o ordination_n of_o presbyter_n 270._o no_o church_n ever_o give_v mere_a presbyter_n power_n to_o ordain_v ib._n the_o canon_n of_o 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in_o many_o thing_n from_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o carthaginian_a council_n in_o the_o rite_n of_o consecration_n 267._o presbyter_n alone_o can_v
time_n only_a counsel_n can_v be_v congregat_v and_o in_o other_o time_n as_o thing_n necessary_a by_o divine_a right_n must_v always_o be_v keep_v close_o unto_o so_o what_o be_v only_o humane_a may_v be_v spare_v it_o be_v not_o possible_a for_o humane_a power_n to_o add_v any_o thing_n of_o absolute_a necessity_n to_o divine_a justice_n which_o can_v be_v alter_v now_o of_o this_o nature_n in_o this_o ceremony_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o be_v most_o apparent_a for_o first_o the_o pontifical_a varyes_fw-mi extreme_o much_o in_o this_o very_a point_n from_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n not_o only_o in_o add_v to_o it_o that_o the_o book_n must_v be_v open_a which_o be_v not_o exprese_v in_o carthage_n but_o by_o change_a those_o few_o circumstance_n which_o be_v particularise_v there_o as_o first_o where_o it_o be_v say_v in_o carthage_n that_o two_o bishop_n shall_v lay_v on_o the_o gospel_n the_o pontifical_a say_v that_o it_o must_v be_v do_v by_o the_o consecrator_n and_o the_o 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above_o two_o hundred_o bishop_n among_o which_o be_v many_o most_o eminent_a man_n and_o indeed_o the_o pope_n legate_n likewise_o although_o they_o can_v only_o keep_v up_o his_o pretension_n to_o it_o not_o prevail_v for_o his_o universal_a superiority_n beside_o this_o i_o observe_v in_o the_o ceremoniale_a romanum_n put_v out_o by_o pope_n leo_n the_o ten_o and_o license_v by_o he_o in_o the_o second_o sect._n litera_fw-la charta_fw-la as_o the_o printer_n call_v it_o or_o as_o we_o fol._n 11._o the_o ordinator_n and_o the_o rest_n put_v the_o book_n only_o upon_o the_o neck_n of_o the_o elect_a pope_n when_o he_o be_v make_v bishop_n so_o that_o here_o in_o these_o record_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n beside_o these_o other_o practice_n of_o chaplain_n or_o deacon_n before_o mention_v we_o find_v a_o great_a liberty_n take_v in_o vary_v from_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n and_o among_o themselves_o the_o council_n appoint_v the_o book_n to_o be_v put_v upon_o the_o head_n 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neither_o priest_n nor_o deacon_n as_o dionysius_n eriquus_fw-la translate_v it_o p●aeter_fw-la civitatis_fw-la episcopum_fw-la we_o may_v render_v it_o beside_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o city_n gentianus_n hervetus_n render_v it_o absque_fw-la vrbis_fw-la episcopo_fw-la without_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o city_n but_o he_o say_v hidorus_fw-la hispalensis_n have_v a_o three_o read_v which_o he_o favour_v above_o all_o that_o be_v praeter_fw-la ●anscientiam_fw-la episcopi_fw-la as_o i_o may_v say_v without_o the_o conscience_n of_o the_o bishop_n here_o he_o put_v down_o three_o various_a translation_n or_o readins_n i_o can_v add_v a_o four_o which_o be_v of_o another_o isidore_n isidori_n mercator_n who_o put_v out_o the_o counsel_n by_o the_o advice_n of_o fourscore_o bishop_n as_o he_o himself_o write_v in_o his_o epistle_n before_o they_o but_o indeed_o have_v no_o remarkable_a difference_n from_o the_o rest_n although_o it_o varye_v from_o they_o now_o say_v doctor_n forbes_n pope_n damasus_n in_o his_o first_o epistle_n to_o purisp_a bishop_n of_o the_o prime_a seat_n of_o numidia_n and_o other_o orthodox_n bishop_n he_o condemn_v the_o chori-episcopi_n as_o a_o irregular_a order_n be_v in_o themselves_o but_o praesbyteri_n and_o take_v upon_o they_o episcopal_a power_n to_o go_v methodical_o in_o the_o examination_n of_o this_o argument_n i_o propose_v to_o myself_o three_o thing_n 1._o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o canon_n make_v in_o this_o council_n next_o the_o examination_n of_o pope_n damasus_n his_o decree_n and_o last_o the_o nature_n of_o those_o chori-episcopi_n or_o country_n bishop_n who_o be_v therein_o mention_v and_o first_o i_o apply_v myself_o to_o the_o council_n which_o i_o be_o content_a to_o admit_v because_o the_o canon_n thereof_o be_v ancient_o receive_v into_o the_o code_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n and_o mention_v both_o in_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n and_o the_o council_n in_o trullo_n though_o estius_n in_o quartum_fw-la distinct._n 25._o sect._n 2._o be_v bold_a to_o reject_v the_o
canon_n of_o this_o council_n because_o there_o be_v a_o ill_a use_n make_v thereof_o against_o two_o eminent_a father_n of_o the_o church_n st._n athanasius_n and_o st._n john_n chrysostome_n who_o suffer_v much_o trouble_n and_o persecution_n upon_o the_o pretence_n of_o the_o iv._o and_o xii_o canon_n thereof_o from_o their_o adversary_n and_o be_v sentence_v by_o they_o before_o they_o well_o hear_v but_o in_o particular_a concern_v the_o canon_n of_o this_o council_n about_o the_o power_n of_o the_o chori-episcopi_n it_o be_v well_o observe_v by_o estius_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la that_o the_o word_n thereof_o be_v very_o intricate_a and_o perplex_a as_o we_o shall_v now_o declare_v in_o the_o chapter_n follow_v chap._n xv._n the_o argument_n to_o prove_v these_o chori-episcopi_n and_o their_o power_n to_o ordain_v presbyter_n examine_v i_o think_v the_o likely_a man_n in_o the_o world_n to_o expound_v this_o canon_n be_v balsamon_n who_o be_v patriarch_n of_o that_o church_n and_o 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sect_n ii_o pope_n damasus_n his_o decree_n examine_v this_o epistle_n in_o crab_n edition_n of_o the_o counsel_n be_v the_o four_o but_o in_o binius_fw-la the_o five_o epistle_n of_o damasus_n and_o it_o be_v sufficient_o pontifical_a it_o destroy_v all_o chori-episcopi_n and_o say_v that_o they_o be_v prohibit_v as_o well_o by_o that_o seat_n of_o rome_n as_o by_o all_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o world_n this_o he_o say_v there_o and_o we_o must_v take_v his_o word_n for_o it_o only_o for_o i_o find_v no_o such_o thing_n upon_o record_n before_o or_o after_o as_o will_v appear_v when_o i_o treat_v of_o the_o nature_n of_o they_o but_o he_o inveigh_v just_o agaisnt_v the_o laziness_n of_o bishop_n which_o say_v he_o bring_v they_o into_o like_o nurse_n to_o suckle_v their_o child_n for_o they_o while_o they_o the_o bishop_n may_v enjoy_v their_o ease_n and_o pleasure_n to_o conclude_v the_o whole_a drift_n of_o that_o epistle_n be_v to_o prove_v that_o these_o country_n bishop_n be_v 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the_o fault_n only_o but_o for_o the_o fault_n sake_n the_o very_a office_n this_o office_n we_o find_v continue_v in_o isidores_n time_n after_o he_o in_o the_o church_n and_o in_o late_a time_n as_o i_o shall_v show_v so_o that_o as_o the_o pope_n think_v the_o canon_n of_o that_o council_n not_o oblige_v so_o the_o christian_a world_n think_v his_o decree_n invalid_a wherefore_o i_o may_v well_o lay_v they_o both_o aside_o sect_n iii_o this_o canon_n reviewed_n but_o i_o will_v examine_v the_o canon_n to_o see_v if_o it_o have_v any_o necessary_a construction_n that_o way_n there_o be_v two_o principal_a thing_n which_o be_v disputeable_a in_o this_o canon_n first_o whether_o these_o chori-episcopi_n may_v give_v order_n to_o presbyter_n with_o leave_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o city_n whereto_o they_o appertain_v second_o whether_o any_o of_o they_o be_v bishop_n by_o episcopal_a ordination_n in_o both_o which_o we_o may_v find_v the_o canon_n so_o perplex_v as_o it_o will_v 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balsamon_n for_o so_o it_o be_v there_o and_o then_o why_o balsaman_n
not_o ordain_v in_o alexandria_n 272._o the_o begin_v r_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v much_o differ_v in_o its_o rite_n of_o consecration_n from_o all_o other_o church_n and_o from_o the_o word_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n 266._o to_o 268._o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v various_a practice_n in_o those_o rite_n ibid._n reproach_n not_o to_o be_v use_v in_o stead_n of_o argument_n 278._o s._n 4._o s_o sacerdotal_a administration_n not_o to_o be_v enjoy_v without_o bishop_n 235_o scotland_n never_o without_o bishop_n either_o in_o it_o or_o near_o it_o 235_o 236._o to_o 238._o scotland_n not_o govern_v by_o presbyter_n in_o the_o time_n of_o johannes_n major_n ibid._n variation_n from_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n of_o which_o we_o be_v member_n be_v schism_n 257_o suffragan-bishop_n by_o the_o leave_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o city_n may_v ordain_v priest_n or_o deacon_n 279._o prove_v by_o example_n 286_o five_o variation_n from_o the_o 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