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A15732	Whyte dyed black. Or A discouery of many most foule blemishes, impostures, and deceiptes, which D. Whyte haith practysed in his book entituled The way to the true Church Deuyded into 3 sortes Corruptions, or deprauations. Lyes. Impertinencies, or absurd reasoninges. Writen by T.W. p. And dedicated to the Vniuersity of Cambridge. Cum priuilegio.	Worthington, Thomas, 1549-1627.	1615 (1615)	STC 26001; ESTC S120302	117,026	210

Councell consisting of many scores of Fathers so happy a progresse M. Whyte haith made in his profession of corrupting Now for the conueyance though it be not to be paralleled with diuers of the former extensiué as the schoole-men speake in multitude and stoare of wordes corrupted it lying onely in slye transposition of one or two wordes yet intensiué for the art thereof it may be equalled with any This then it is Our minister there pag 344. to ouerthrow the religious vse of Images produceth the 36. Canon of the Councell of Eliberis to wit No picture is to be made in the Church lest that be adored which is paynted on wales The wordes of the Canon are these Placuit picturas in Ecclesia non debere ne quod colitur adoratur in partetibus depingatur It pleased the Councell that pictures should not be in the Church leste that which is worshipped and adored be painted on the wales Be obseruant here Reader and marke the difference which is made of the same wordes by a witty interchange of their place in their translation thou shalt see that my delicate minister here euen transcends him self The Councell saith Images are not to be in the Church lest that be painted on the wales which is worshipped M. Whyte translateth lest that be worshipped which is painted on the wales Thus the difference breefely resteth in this lest that which is worshiped be painted And lest that which is painted be worshipped A small difference in shew of wordes but great in sence For the wordes of the Councell acknowledging the worship of Images maketh the worship due to them to be the cause why they are not to be painted on wales But M. Whyte saith that they are not to be painted on wales because they are not to be worshiped and so maketh the Councell to speake lyke good protestantes Now the reason why the Councell would not haue the wales of Churches to be painted with Images was in reguard of the due respect they bare to them not as M. Whyte falsly suggesteth For being so painted they were subiect to be defaced either by the inuasiō of the enemies in those tymes or els by the rayne and bad wether whereas Images drawne in Tables of which the former Councell maketh no restraint in that they are portable and remoueable do not lye open to the same daunger Therefore the intention of the Coūcell herein was the same with the intention of that decree by the which it was ordained that in reuerence to the Crucifix no Crosse should be made vpon the plaine ground because it being so made must needes be often irreuerently be tramped with the feete of mē Thus is M. Whyte in seking to disproue the lawfull vse of an Image become him self a perfect Image of deceate fraude and collusion But here now I make an ende of his corruptions deprauations hasting my self to the second Part of his scene which is his lyes and falshoods Onely I must say that in reguard of the impurity and conse onlesse deportment of him in his whole Treatise I can not but commiserate all such poore credulous soules as do highly Preiudge of his booke as beiug writen in all sincerity and plainesse and free from the least touch or aspersion of any wilfull deprauation And therefore I hould it most strange that M. Purchase a scholer and ingenious though extremely maliuolent should in his owne booke pag. 100. entytle M. Whyte Via Lactea alludinge perhaps both to his name and his supposed candor in wrytinge But since his mistakinge is not iustifiable I will allow to M. Whyte the same tytle though through a differeut reason For as the Via Lactea appeareth to a vulgar sight to be a part of heauen and yet indeede is not being if we follow the iudgment of the auncient Philosophers far lower then the heauens as it is necessarily euicted from the different parallayes and variations thereof taken from seuerall places So is M. Whyte reputed in the comon eye and censure of vnlearned protestantes as a man which in all truth haith much laboured in that heauenly course of dilating the Gospell and faith of Christ whereas we fynd that the contrary is most true as haith fully appeared from his seuerall exorbitant deprauations of so many Catholick Authors and others Wherefore to be short I greatly feare that except hereafter there follow a feeling remorse of this foule and vnchristianlike dealing the wordes of S. Iohn the Euangelist may be more truly applyed to our Sir Iohn the minister Nomen habes quo viuis mortuus es Apoc. 3. The ende of the first part WHYTE DYED BLACK THE SECOND PART Contayning sundry notorious vntruthes or Lyes proued to be such euen by the confession of the most learned Protestantes And first is preuented a weake euation which may be vsed by M. Whyte against this second parte FROM Corruptions good Reader we are next to descend to vntruthes for lying indeede is the second piller which supporteth the whole weight frame of M. Whytes worke This passage I here make distinct from the former For although all the precedent deprauations of the first part do potentially include vutruthes and falshoodes yet our Doctors proteruity therein doth cheifly rest either in corrupting other mens wordes or in alledging them directly against the knowne intention of the Authors whereas here the reduplicatiue formality as I may terme it of his hereticall deportment consisteth in plaine lying to wit in setting downe and instifying certaine most false assertions and positions a course little sorting to one who styleth him self a minister of gods word in that his sacred word is altogether incompatible with falshood The floate of these his vntruthes is so greate as that our Doctor assordeth vnto vs many scoares of this nature yet because he would make shew to mantaine diuers of them vnder some pr●text either of much reading or in wrasting the sence of such produced authorities if I should fortify the contrary truth from their particuler testimonies of Scripture Fathers Histories c. being a kynd of proofe in reguard of the often suggested doubtfulnes of the true sense directed by many wheeles of inferences and deductions Therefore to the end that I may eu●n chokingly and irreplyably conuince him of such notorious miscariage I haue thought good to supererogate with him in disprouing his said falshoodes I meane in restrayning my self precysely to such his lyes as the contrary thereto is acknowledged for true euen by his own brethren and these not m●n obscure or vulgar but the most eminent and learned protestantes of Christendome and such as haue euer bene accompted starres of the greatest magnitude in their euangelicall Spheare Neither will I alledge so many of them as I could but for the greater expedition I will content my self for the most part with the testimonies of two or three of our learnedst aduersaries Now here I would haue the iudiceous reader to obserue

Religion● and this he doth by nakedly setting downe one lyne which is the middest of the periode but subtily according to his maner omitting both the wordes precedent wherein the instance is geuen and whereunto the sence of the former sentence is peculierly tyed as also the wordes subsequēt contayning the reason thereof But it semeth he haith vowed with him self neuer to alledg any one testimony ingeniously and plainely seing his true quotations i● any such be may for their quantity be engrauen within a ring whereas his wilfull deprauations doe stretch beyond all reasonable dimension The 12 Paragraph The Canon Law corrupted concerning the Pope In nothing more doth M. Whyte manifest or continue his implacable hatred or his dexterity in falsification then against the Church and Pope of Rome amongest many take this example folowing pag. 433. I am affrayd saih he I haue bene to bold in medling with these matters for the Church of Rome haith a Law within her self that it is and then foloweth in a different letter as though they were the wordes of the Canon law sacriledg to reason about the Popes doinges whose murders are excused lyke Sampsons and theftes lyke the Hebrues Adultries lyke Iacobs But here I must charg you with much fowle demeanour for first you affirme that the wordes cyted are a Law of the Romane Church whereas they are onely taken out of the glosse or comment which is a thing much different and of incomparable lesse authority then the Law it self Secondly whereas in the Law it is disputed what censure is to be geuen when the case is doubtfull whether the Pope haith sinned or noe as by committing adultry or murder to which it is answeared that in that case it is to be presumed in the Popes behalf yea saith the glosser in this case sacrilegii instar esset disputare de facto suo Vel dic quod facta Papae accusantur vt homicidia Samsonis surta Hehraeorum adulterium Iacob It were lyke Sacriledg in that doubtfull case to dispute of his fact Or say that the deedes of the Pope are accused as the murders of Samson the thefts of the Hehrues the Adultery of Iacob What is here spoken in defence of the pope which euery Christian ought not to performe in defence of his neighbour to wit in a case doubtfull to think and speake the best Are not those factes of Samson the Hebrues and Iacob piously censured by the learnedst Doctors But with what front do you auouch so absolutely and in generall that according to the law of the Romane Church it is sacriledg to reason about the Popes doinges whereas the glosser saith onely In dubiis c. when the case is doubtfull of the Popes fact instar sacrilegii c. It were lyke Sacriledg to dispute of his fact Will you of doubtfull premisses inferre an absolute conclusion Would you take it kindly if in a case admitting it but doubtfull whether a certaine minister had beene drunke should absolutely affirme that the protestants Church haith a Law within her self that it is Sacriledg to reason about ministers doinges whose drunkenes is excused as Noes c. The 13. Paragraph Bellarmine corrupted against the● Popes Authority As the former deprauations were practised in ouermuch aduauncing and extolling the Authority of the Church and Pope so here on the contrary part he falsly alledgeth Bellarmine extenuating and lesning the said power For thus entytling the page 167. The papistes them selues refuse the Popes Iudgment he laboureth to make good this assertion from the confession of Bellarmine who de Rom. Pon. lib. 4. ca. 7. speaking of S. Ciprian withstanding Pope Stephen touchinge rebaptisation writeth as M. Whyte saith that after the Popes definitiō it was free for Ciprian to think otherwise our minister intimating hereby to the Reader that Bellarmine mantayneth that it is lawfull to beleue contrary to that which is once defyned as a matter of faith by the Pope Here againe he bestowes on his Reader a broken sentence leauing of in the middest thereby to auoyde the setting downe of what is most materiall for Bellarmines wordes are these Fuit enimpost Pontificis definitionem c. It was lawfull after the definition of the Pope to think otherwyse as Augustine affirmeth beoause the Pope noluit rem ipsam de fide facere sine generaliconcilio would not make it as a matter of Faith without a generall Councell but onely in the meane tyme willed the auncient custome to be obserued And then after Stephanus nō defiuiuis rem illam tanquam de fide P. Stephen did not defyne the matter as a poynt of Faith yet he commaunded earnestly that heritykes should not be rebaptysed See here now the integrity of our minister who purpo●ly concealeth that part of the sentence which isexpresly contrary to that sence in the which he alledgeth the former wordes thereof For Bellarmine vnderstandeth by the wordes post definitionem after it was commanded that rebaptisation should not be vsed and not after it was sententially defined as an article of faith as M. Wayte semeth to force Now Catholickes do graunt that it is lawfull to hould or beleue contrary to the practise of what the Pope commandeth so that we do● according to his commandement and as long as the matter it self is not definitiuely decreed by the Pope for a dogmaticall poynt of our beleefe thus much thereof from whence we may discerne the Ministers inueterate hatred against the head of Gods Church who āswerably thereto speaking of the words of our Sauiour Pasce oues meas thus styleth some of his pages in his Lucian and scornfull phraze Feede my sheepe is not poping But howsoeuer to feede in this place be to pope it I am sure most egregiously and impudently to corrupt Authors is to Whyte it Chapter 4. Wherein are discouered sundry corruptions concerning the sacred Scriptures and Traditions The 1. Paragraph Bellarmine corrupted in behalf of the Scripture prouing it self to be the word of God THE next poynt we are to come to are such his corruptions wherein he pretendeth that the Catholickes doe acknowledge all sufficiency of Scripture both for the interpreting of it self without any needefull explication of the Church thereof as also for it fulnesse in contayning expresly all thinges necessary to mans saluation excluding thereby all Apostolicall Traditions whatsoeuer And first pag. 59. shewing that the Scripture is knowen to be the word of God without the attestation of the Church which as he houldeth may be deceatfull he alledgeth Bellarmine de verb. des li. 2. ca. 2. thus confessing other meanes may deceaue me but nothing is more knowen nothing more certayne then the Scriptures that it were the greatest madnes in the world not to beleue them c. See how loth our minister is to cease to be him self I meane to cease his notorious corrupting for the wordes of Bellarmine are these Sacris Scripturis quae Prophetieis Apostolicis literis

doth charge condemne the protestant for teaching that God is the author of sinne But as in the former vntruthes so particulerly in this we see how Antipodes-lyke oppositly our Doctor treadeth to the feete of his owne brethren The 16. Vntruth In proofe that S. Bernard was no papist Page 298. He is not affrayd to publish by his pen that Bernard was a papist in none of the principall poyntes of their religion And then he addeth He stoode against the pryde of the Pope c. Good Reader here is no lying for whosoeuer will but obserue what is confessed by the protestantes must acknowledg that impudency it self would be ashamed to haue mantained such a groundlesse vntruth For first it is graunted by Symond de Voyon a protestant that he was Abbot of Clareiuaux And Osiander saith of Bernard that Centum et quadraginta Monasteriorum author fuisse creditur He was thought to be the Author of a hundreth 40 Monasteries In lyke sort S. Bernard was so great a Patron of the Popes Primacy that the Centuristes wryte of him Coluit deum Maozim c. Bernard did worshipp euen to the last end of his lyfe the god Maozim he was a most eager defender of the seate of Antichrist Apoint so cleare that he is charged by D. Fulke and D. Whytaker for defending the Popes Ecclesiasticall Authority and yet if we beleeue M. Whyte he stoode against the pryde of the Pope so euident you see is this made by the free acknowledgment of the protestantes whose censures are passed vpon S. Bernardes Religion and faith in generall And therefore we may well inferr that if they had thought S. Bernard to haue bene but in part a catholick or as the terme is a papist and in other poyntes a protestant they would haue bene glad to haue chalenged him to them selues in the supposed pointes of his protestancy Thus M. Whyte we still obserue that the Reader is euer entertayned by you with nought but falshoods but no meruell for it is your owne position that a man can not hope to learne truth in the schoole of lyes The 17. Vntruth Against the miracles wrought by S. Bernard S. Francis Page 299 Talking of the miracles of the former S. Bernard of S. Francis and others he thus concludeth What is reported of Bernard and Francis c. are lyes and deuyses This is spoken to dishonour the Romane Faith diuers of whose professours through Gods omnipotency and for the manifestation and strengthning of his truth haue in all tymes bene able to exhibite diuers great miracles the remēbrance of which prerogatiue resting onely in our Church is most displeasing to our minister in whose nyce nosethrilles nothing well sauoreth that tasteth of the praise of our Catholick Religion But now let vs see whether the miracles record●d of the former Sainctes be lyes or no as the D. fondly suggesteth One most remarkable miracle of S. Bernard is recorded by Godfridus in the lyfe of S. Bernard It was wrought in proofe of certaine Catholick Articles denied in those dayes by the heritykes Apostolici or Henriciani as at this instant they are denyed by the protestantes The miracle was done in the Country of Tolousa in France and consisted in S. Bernardes blessing of certaine loaues of bread of which loaues for proofe of the truth of our Catholick doctrine then preached by S. Bernard whosoeuer being in any sort diseased of body should eate should be healed of their sicknes whereupon infinite people eating of the same were cured most miraculously of all kind of diseases This miracle was so illustrious and markable that Osiander one of the Century writers doth not say it is a lye and forged as M. Whyte doth but graunting the thing as true doth ascribe it to the power and working of the deuill as the wicked Iewes did the miracles of our blessed Sauiour vnto Belzabub In lyke sort Mathew Paris in his history which is printed by the protestantes at Tigur 1589. whose booke is by the said protestantes highly commended in their Preface annexed thereunto and who him self is reckoned for his defence of certaine poyntes of protestancy in the number of protestantes by Illiricus This man now most seriously recordeth that before S. Francis death there appeared certain● woundes in his handes and feete and his syde freshly bleeding such as were seene in our Sauiour when he suffered on the Crosse. The reason of which appearance was as S. Francis said to shew that he did truly preach the mistery of the Crosse and that in further demonstration of the same he tould them before that presently after death the former woundes should be healed coherent lyke to the rest of his flesh the which accordingly did fall forth And thus much but of these for breuity sake instanced in these two Sainctes from whence we may confidently affirme that it is a lye to say with M. Whyte that these Sainctes Mirakles are but lyes The 18. Vntruth In proofe of the protestantes Churches euer visibility Page 225. and 226. In defence of the continuance of his owne Church he thus saith The learned among vs confesse and proue against all that contradict it that euer since Christes tyme 〈…〉 there haith bene a company of men visibly professing the same faith that we do though the Church of Rome a generating into the seate of Antichrist pers●cut●d them and so many tymes draue them ●wt of the sight of the world that to it they were not visible Thus he But before we conuince this I would demaunde where our ministers head peece was when he thus wrote since these few lynes do inuolue an irreconciliable contradiction A company of men visibly professing c. yet to the world not visible O strang neuer before heard of Inuisible-uisible aswell he might mantaine whyte remayning whyte to be black or the moone in her greatest eclipse to shyne as the Church euer to be visible and yet latent and latent to whō to the world still good as if it were to be seene only by some who are out of the world But now to the falshood the lyke whereof he ventilated before and haith accordingly bene before refelled Yet because for the honour of his Church he insisteth much in the visibility and want of all interruption of his faith it will not be amisse to repell such an idle suggestion with the testimonies and acknowledgmentes of seuerall learned protestantes And first Napper wryteth that betwene the yere of Christ 300 and 1316. the Antichristian and Papisticall reigne began reigning vniuersally and without any debateable contradiction 1260 yeares gods true Church most certainly abyding latent and inuisible Sebastianus Francus a famous protestant in lyke sort saith For certaine through the worke of Antichrist the externall Church together with the faith and Sacramentes uanished away presently after the Apostles departure and that for these thousand four hundreth yeres the Church