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A09103 A discussion of the ansvvere of M. VVilliam Barlovv, D. of Diuinity, to the booke intituled: The iudgment of a Catholike Englishman liuing in banishment for his religion &c. Concerning the apology of the new Oath of allegiance. VVritten by the R. Father, F. Robert Persons of the Society of Iesus. VVhervnto since the said Fathers death, is annexed a generall preface, laying open the insufficiency, rayling, lying, and other misdemeanour of M. Barlow in his writing. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610.; Coffin, Edward, 1571-1626. 1612 (1612) STC 19409; ESTC S114157 504,337 690

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so_o take_v there_o by_o the_o council_n but_o for_o inferior_a order_n ●nder_v subdeacon_n which_o be_v the_o first_o of_o the_o three_o that_o exclude_v marriage_n this_o be_v see_v by_o many_o canon_n as_o namely_o by_o the_o 40._o which_o begin_v thus_o omnes_fw-la clerici_fw-la vel_fw-la lectores_fw-la sive_fw-la levitae_n &_o sacerdotes_fw-la detonso_fw-la superiùs_fw-la capite_fw-la toto_fw-la inserius_fw-la solam_fw-la circuli_fw-la coronam_fw-la relinquant_fw-la all_o clark_n and_o reader_n as_o also_o deacon_n and_o priest_n cut_v of_o all_o the_o hair_n of_o the_o upper_a part_n of_o their_o head_n let_v they_o leave_v in_o the_o low_a part_n only_o the_o crown_n of_o a_o circle_n here_o you_o see_v that_o clerici_fw-la &_o sacerdotes_fw-la be_v distinct_a degree_n priest_n you_o see_v also_o this_o ceremony_n of_o discipline_n in_o that_o church_n of_o spain_n will_n m._n barlow_n confess_v that_o his_o church_n agree_v in_o this_o the_o title_n also_o of_o the_o 67._o 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which_o be_v the_o second_o hold_v some_o hundred_o year_n before_o this_o four_o the_o mater_fw-la be_v determine_v in_o the_o very_a first_o canon_n thus_o speak_v of_o young_a man_n that_o pretend_v to_o take_v holy_a order_n &_o to_o be_v priest_n vbi_fw-la octawm_fw-la decimum_fw-la aetatis_fw-la suae_fw-la compleverint_fw-la annum_fw-la etc._n etc._n when_o they_o shall_v be_v full_a eighteen_o year_n of_o age_n let_v the_o bishop_n in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o people_n search_v their_o will_n about_o desire_n of_o marriage_n &_o then_o if_o by_o the_o inspiration_n of_o god_n the_o grace_n of_o chastity_n shall_v please_v they_o and_o they_o shall_v answer_v that_o they_o will_v keep_v their_o promise_n make_v of_o chastity_n without_o conjugal_a necessity_n then_o let_v these_o man_n as_o desirous_a of_o a_o most_o strait_a way_n be_v admit_v under_o the_o most_o sweet_a and_o easy_a yoke_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o first_o let_v they_o take_v the_o 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such_o form_n of_o oath_n as_o this_o new_a oath_n be_v be_v there_o prescribe_v or_o decree_v either_o quoad_fw-la for●●●_n or_o quoad_fw-la materiam_fw-la for_o as_o for_o the_o form_n i_o find_v no_o particular_a form_n set_v down_o or_o decree_v in_o the_o council_n as_o have_v be_v say_v but_o only_o a_o admonition_n to_o keep_v the_o oath_n before_o take_v with_o a_o earnest_a dehortation_n &_o commination_n against_o all_o perfidious_a conspire_v or_o rebel_n against_o their_o king_n which_o we_o most_o willing_o also_o agree_v unto_o and_o as_o for_o the_o matter_n and_o subject_n of_o the_o oath_n it_o be_v clear_a allegiance_n that_o that_o be_v of_o temporal_a obedience_n only_o and_o have_v no_o such_o clause_n against_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n as_o this_o have_v nor_o can_v it_o be_v imagine_v with_o any_o probability_n that_o if_o any_o such_o thing_n have_v be_v propose_v by_o k._n ●isenandus_fw-la to_o that_o council_n that_o they_o will_v have_v hearken_v unto_o it_o and_o much_o less_o agree_v and_o subject_a themselves_o to_o ●ake_v it_o or_o allow_v it_o to_o other_o to_o be_v either_o propose_v or_o take_v well_o then_o what_o say_v m._n barlow_n to_o this_o conclusion_n certes_o he_o seek_v so_o say_v many_o thing_n but_o so_o far_o from_o the_o purpose_n that_o he_o true_o may_v be_v say_v to_o say_v nothing_o he_o set_v down_o clause_n of_o my_o speech_n with_o his_o answer_n thus_o first_o quoth_v i_o there_o be_v no_o partycule_a form_n of_o a_o oath_n put_v down_o in_o the_o council_n and_o consequent_o this_o new_a form_n can_v not_o be_v take_v from_o that_o he_o answer_v can_v a_o oath_n be_v keep_v which_o be_v not_o first_o take_v but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o the_o spaniard_n do_v take_v a_o oath_n to_o their_o king_n or_o not_o for_o that_o be_v grant_v but_o whether_o the_o form_n of_o the_o oath_n be_v like_a to_o this_o of_o we_o and_o yet_o as_o though_o he_o have_v answer_v to_o the_o purpose_n he_o go_v forward_o to_o prove_v that_o a_o oath_n be_v take_v it_o appear_v say_v he_o in_o the_o canon_n i●_n self_n that_o all_o of_o they_o have_v take_v a_o 〈◊〉_d the_o state_n decree_v it_o 220._o the_o subject_n of_o all_o sort_n take_v be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d enjoin_v the_o inviolable_a performance_n thereof_o so_o then_o a_o oath_n there_o was●_n that_o be_v without_o question_n and_o a_o form_n it_o ●ad_v i●_n not_o set_v down_o i●_n 〈◊〉_d council_n what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o point_n speak_v true_o sir_n nothing_o at_o all_o as_o be_v neither_o this_o your_o prove_v of_o that_o which_o be_v not_o deny_v but_o it_o have_v be_v much_o to_o the_o point_n to_o prove_v that_o that_o form_n and_o this_o form_n have_v be_v a_o like_a and_o so_o the_o one_o confirm_v by_o the_o other_o which_o you_o attempt_v not_o at_o all_o to_o do_v and_o yet_o i_o pray_v thou_o good_a reader_n see_v here_o how_o he_o brag_v immediate_o sufficient_o say_v he_o have_v the_o apolog●●_n evict_v what_o he_o will_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n among_o 〈◊〉_d be_v no_o such_o strange_a thing_n have_v a_o precedent_n in_o like_a kind_n confirm_v by_o diverse_a counsel_n about_o a_o thousand_o year_n sithence_o but_o i_o will_v demand_v of_o m._n barlow_n what_o be_v the_o question_n between_o we_o be_v it_o whether_o there_o be_v ever_o any_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n to_o temporal_a prince_n allow_v or_o take_v in_o the_o christian_a world_n before_o this_o of_o we_o for_o if_o this_o be_v the_o question_n then_o have_v he_o sufficient_o evict_v his_o purpose_n by_o show_v that_o so_o long_o ago_o a_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n be_v allow_v in_o the_o council_n of_o toledo_n but_o if_o this_o be_v not_o the_o question_n but_o only_o whether_o there_o be_v a_o like_a oath_n to_o this_o in_o form_n or_o matter_n allow_v in_o the_o council_n of_o toledo_n then_o have_v m._n barlow_n evict_v nothing_o but_o his_o own_o disgrace_n for_o that_o he_o have_v run_v quite_o from_o the_o purpose_n and_o yet_o to_o seem_v to_o say_v somewhat_o he_o return_v again_o afterward_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o form_n and_o matter_n of_o this_o oath_n recommend_v in_o the_o council_n of_o toledo_n and_o first_o he_o show_v that_o albeit_o the_o form_n be_v not_o express_v in_o the_o council_n yet_o must_v it_o be_v presume_a to_o have_v be_v make_v in_o the_o name_n of_o god_n as_o be_v command_v in_o deuteronomy_n the_o 6._o but_o this_o be_v very_o general_a then_o he_o set_v down_o a_o certain_a protestation_n make_v by_o the_o bishop_n and_o archbishop_n in_o the_o six_o council_n of_o toledo_n for_o the_o temporal_a safety_n of_o their_o prince_n in_o these_o word_n ideo_fw-la testamur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d deo_fw-la &_o omni_fw-la ordine_fw-la angelorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o
barlow_n barlow_n pag._n 184._o the_o silly_a shift_a of_o m._n barlow_n m._n barlowes_n acumen_fw-la m._n barlowes_n contradiction_n c●●_n 47._o stapleton_n lib_n 9_o c●●tro●_n 5._o de_fw-fr c●●_n 〈…〉_z m._n barlowes_n fidelity_n art_n 27._o c●nt●a_fw-la luth●rum_fw-la b_o fisher_n abuse_v valentia_n in_o 2.2_o dis●_n 1._o pun●●o_fw-la 6._o d._n thom●_n 2._o 2._o q._n 1._o art_n 10._o azor._n in●stitut_o par_fw-fr 2_o l._n 5._o c._n 12._o azor_n abuse_v suarez_n abuse_v suarez_n ●on_n ●_o in_o 3._o 〈◊〉_d ●_o 27_o 3._o a●t_n sect_n 6._o ●a●l_n pag._n 18●_n tun_n 5._o conc_fw-fr council_n 4._o mediolan_n cap._n 1._o about_o the_o profession_n of_o faith_n in_o the_o four_o council_n of_o mill●ne_n fraudulent_o allege_v by_o m._n barlow_n azor._n par_fw-fr 1._o l._n 11._o c._n 4._o §._o 2._o quaeritur_fw-la strange_a impudence_n of_o m._n barlow_n azor._n par_fw-fr 1._o l._n 1._o c._n 11._o §._o 1●_n quaeritur_fw-la m._n barlow_v transcendent_a impudence_n letter_n pag._n 64._o see_v s._n cypr._n exhor_n ad_fw-la martyr_n see_v euseb●_n l._n 8._o c._n 4._o &_o aug._n de_fw-fr bapt._n l._n 7._o c._n 2._o &_o l._n 7._o contra_fw-la crescon_n c._n 27._o &_o a●nob_n contra_fw-la gentes_fw-la l._n 4._o in_o fine_a m._n barlow_v slander_n without_o end_n barl._n pag._n 187._o m_o barlowes_n strange_a mystery_n socrat._n lib._n ●_o hist._n cap._n 14._o socrates_n pervert_v d._n tho._n 2._o 2._o q._n 104._o artic●_fw-la 6._o ad_fw-la 3._o lie_v &_o cog_a be_v proper_a to_o m._n barlow_n s._n thomas_n his_o opinion_n concern_v obedience_n due_a unto_o prince_n aug._n 4._o de_fw-fr civit._n c._n 4._o a_o objection_n answer_v by_o s._n thom._n m._n barlowes_n ignorance_n or_o malice_n more_o declare_v strange_a deal_n of_o our_o adversary_n letter_n pag._n 65._o about_o the_o breve_n of_o clemens_n octaws_fw-la m._n barlowes_n mind_n impious_a m._n barlow_v cobble_v and_o clout_v on_o of_o his_o majesty_n praise_n m._n barlow_n more_o fit_a to_o be_v a_o sexton_n then_o b._n of_o lincoln_n lett._n p._n 69._o apologia_fw-la 56.37_o the_o state_n of_o the_o controversy_n with_o cardinal_n bel●larmine_n card_n beauties_n opinion_n of_o take_v the_o oath_n pag._n 44._o a_o cavil_v barl._n p_o 201._o josue_n 6._o 15._o ram_n horn_n barl._n pag._n 202._o a_o great_a untruth_n to_o begin_v wi●h_n all_o a_o foolish_a fiction_n of_o m._n barlow_n without_o application_n m._n barlow_v trifle_a ignorance_n barl._n pag._n 203._o m._n barlow_n answer_v argument_n by_o tell_v of_o tale_n &_o those_o little_a to_o the_o purpose_n card._n bellarmine_n wrongful_o charge_v by_o m._n barlow_n for_o mistake_v the_o question_n pag._n 164._o edit_n rom._n lett._n p._n 71._o all_o be_v one_o with_o m._n barlow_n for_o a_o thing_n to_o be_v moderate_v or_o to_o be_v modify_v barl._n pag._n 205._o stat._n 26._o henr._n 8._o cap._n 1._o the_o first_o oath_n of_o supremacy_n stat._n 28._o henr._n 8._o cap._n 10._o stat._n 1._o edw._n 6._o cap._n 2._o barl._n pag._n 205._o m_o barlow_n vex_v in_o defend_v the_o supremacy_n pag._n 209._o 1._o reg._n 15._o 1._o cor._n 11._o m_o barlowes_n impertinent_a answer_n reyn._n confer_v cap._n 1._o disp_n 2._o p._n 55._o q._n elizabeth_n in_o m._n barlowes_n opinion_n as_o absolute_a for_o spiri●tu●ll_v authority_n as_o any_o male-monarch_n barl._n pag._n 207._o letter_n 74._o the_o oath_n divide_v into_o 14._o part_n apol._n p._n 49._o bad_a kind_n of_o argue_v barl._n pag._n 2●●_n m._n barlow_n without_o all_o occasion_n play_v the_o parasite_n barlow_n pag._n 214._o m._n barlowes_n senseless_a demand_n m._n barlow_n foy_v into_o his_o text_n the_o word_n whole_a and_o thereupon_o ground_v all_o his_o idle_a dispute_n bellarm._n pag._n 22._o edit_n rom._n more_o require_v to_o a_o good_a action_n then_o to_o a_o evil_a barl._n pag._n ●15_n the_o difference_n between_o this_o oath_n and_o a_o indenture_n barl._n pag._n 215._o barl._n p._n 215._o strange_a &_o parasitical_a paradox_n lett._n p._n 76._o apologia_fw-la 52._o the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n confirm_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n the_o difference_n between_o the_o ancient_a counsel_n and_o the_o pope_n counsel_v of_o the_o catholic_n con●_n tole_n 4._o can_n 74._o a_o lie_n in_o print_n barl._n pag._n 217._o about_o the_o leave_v out_o the_o word_n almost_o k._n ●●senandus_fw-la his_o submissive_a behaviour_n to_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o council_n of_o toledo_n the_o catholic_n faith_n confirm_v by_o the_o council_n of_o toledo_n m._n barl●w_n when_o he_o can_v answer_v fil●_n to_o tell_v of_o tale_n m._n barlow_v falsehood_n in_o relate_v the_o word_n of_o the_o council_n of_o toledo_n m._n barlowes_n shameless_a assertion_n about_o ignorance_n &_o devotion_n m._n barlow_n very_o ignorant_a but_o not_o very_o devout_a immunity_n of_o clergy_n man_n from_o whence_o it_o first_o proceed_v lib._n de_fw-fr cler._n cap._n 2d_o &_o 29._o vid●_n in_o c●d●e_a theod●s_n lib._n 16._o ti●_n 2_o leg_n 16_o &_o 26._o ●t_z in_o cod._n ●●stin●_n l●ge_a ●an●imus_fw-la de_fw-la sa●rosan_n eccl._n m_o barlow_n for_o a_o canon_n leap_v out_o of_o the_o book_n can._n 75._o two_o notorious_a fraud_n of_o m._n bar●low_n m._n barlowes_n forgery_n discover_v about_o the_o marriage_n of_o priest_n con●_n to._n l●t_n ●_o tom_fw-mi 2._o conc._n a_o dom._n 542._o the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n of_o tol●d●_n about_o the_o chastity_n of_o subdeacons_n deacon_n &_o priest_n let_v s●r_n william_n b._n and_o his_o fellow_n examine_v their_o conscience_n how_o they_o keep_v this_o canon_n priest_n live_v with_o their_o wife_n note_v by_o the_o council_n to_o come_v from_o heretic_n whether_o the_o 4_o council_n of_o toledo_n agree_v more_o with_o the_o protestant_a church_n of_o england_n or_o catholic_a church_n of_o rome_n christ_n descend_v into_o hell_n to_o deliver_v the_o saint_n merit_n of_o work_n recourse_n to_o rome_n beda_n lib._n 1._o hist._n c._n 27._o wax_v taper_n all●l●ya_n mortification_n in_o the_o time_n of_o lent●_n mass_n &_o festivity_n of_o saint_n disorderly_o monk_n punish_v the_o difference_n between_o the_o oath_n of_o the_o council_n of_o toledo_n &_o the_o english_a oath_n of_o pretend_a allegiance_n barl._n pag._n 220._o very_o wisly_a speak_v council_n ●_o tolet._n a_o fond_a triumph_n of_o m._n barlow_n before_o the_o victory_n the_o council_n of_o toledo_n will_v never_o have_v allow_v of_o the_o new_a oath_n about_o equivocation_n very_o ignorant_o by_o m._n barlow_n confound_v with_o lie_v lie_v a_o immodest_a example_n use_v by_o m._n barlow_n the_o difference_n between_o equivocation_n &_o lie_v a_o gross_a lie_n of_o m._n barlow_n barl._n pag._n 226._o m._n barlowes_n principal_a ignorance_n m._n barlowes_n childish_a imputation_n against_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n barl._n pag._n 230._o let_n pag._n 43_o num_fw-la 24._o two_o question_n propose_v &_o solue_v clause_n of_o belief_n or_o not_o belief_n in_o the_o oath_n pag._n 12._o barl._n pag._n ●33_n m._n barlowes_n caviling_n barl._n pag._n 234._o machiavels_n principle_n agree_v better_a to_o protestant_n doctrine_n they_o to_o the_o catholic_a m._n barlow_n understand_v not_o himself_o barl._n pag._n 234._o m._n barlow_n his_o silly_a distinction_n m._n barlowes_n gross_a error_n in_o philosophy_n divine_a &_o humane_a faith_n wherein_o they_o be_v distinguish_v the_o pop●_n never_o command_v any_o prince_n to_o be_v murder_v bar●_n pag._n 217._o barl._n pag._n 239._o bell._n de_fw-fr ronvere_n pont._n l._n 5._o c._n 6._o §._o ex_fw-la quo_fw-la m._n barlow_n falsify_v bellarmine_n m._n barlow_v foolish_a consequence_n lett._n p._n 87._o na●e_n part_n 2._o gen_fw-la ●7_n in_o anno_fw-la 11●6_n cran●●_n l._n 5._o histor_n saxon_n c._n 24._o m._n barlow_n i●_n 〈◊〉_d where_o he_o 〈◊〉_d ●●●were_n henry_n the_o 4._o not_o unbury_v by_o pope_n pascalis_n naucl._n l._n 2._o gen_n 37._o 〈◊〉_d a_o lutheran_n m._n barlow_v clout_a fraud_n in_o his_o black_a cloud_n of_o witness_n m._n barlow_n pare_v and_o mince_v author_n to_o his_o purpose_n m._n barlow_n show_v himself_o a_o falsificator_n in_o capital_a letter_n m._n barlow_n trim_v author_n to_o make_v they_o against_o their_o will_n be_v &_o contrary_a to_o that_o they_o write_v to_o speak_v for_o he_o lett._n p._n 87._o m._n barlowes_n perfidious_a deal_n in_o allege_v f._n person_n word_n crantz_n l._n 5._o hist._n cap._n 24._o barl._n pag._n 240._o m_o barlowes_n notorious_a lie_n m._n barlowes_n cloud_n of_o witness_n 〈◊〉_d helmod_n 〈◊〉_d l._n 1._o c._n 33._o binnius_n misconstrue_v binnius_n tom_n 3._o pag._n 13_o c_o 4._o the_o air_n clear_v of_o m._n barlowes_n cloud_n of_o witness_n a_o common_a false_a trick_n of_o m._n barlow_n to_o set_v down_o his_o own_o word_n in_o a_o different_a letter_n as_o if_o they_o be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o author_n by_o he_o cite_v aug._n de_fw-fr civit._n l._n 1._o cap._n 13._o &_o lib._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la mort_fw-fr agenda_fw-la cypr._n ep._n
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