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A94142 Tvvo letters: the one to subtile papist: the other to a zealous Presbyterian. In both which the authour conceives he hath said enough to keepe any man from the Roman Church, in the generall of religion, and from the Presbyterian congregation in the particular of the eucharist, or the Lords Supper: because St Paul saies, 1 Cor. 11. 16. Wee know no such custome, neither the Church of God. By T. Swadling, D.D. Swadlin, Thomas, 1600-1670. 1653 (1653) Wing S6230; Thomason E712_1; ESTC R207131 21,573 32

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TVVO LETTERS The one to a subtile PAPIST The other to a Zealous PRESBYTERIAN In both which the Authour Conceives he hath said enough to keepe any man from the Roman Church in the Generall of Religion and from the Presbyterian Congregation in the particular of the Eucharist or the Lords Supper Because St Paul saies 1 Cor. 11.16 Wee know no such Custome neither the Church of God By T. SWADLING D.D. LONDON Printed for Charles Adams and are to be sold at his Shop at the Talbot neer St Dunstans Church in Fleetstreet 1653. To my Honoured friend Master Robert Peyton Sir YOu are a young Gentleman and fit for the Impression of such Religion as the Jesuite by his subtilty or the Presbyter by his Zeale can fasten upon you You will be set upon by both and both will endeavour to make you a Proselyte such Portion you are endued with being the prey they hunt after The following papers are therefore Dedicated to you that you may be preserved a Catholique and that they may spread under your favour as a testimony of some thankfulnesse from Sir 1. Julij Your friend and servant THO SWADLIN A Letter from a Catholick Divine to a Laick Papist To my loving friend Sir AT our last meeting April 28. 1653. you desired me to give you some reasons why I did not unite my self to the Church of Rome you promised me my reasons should be answered The conclusion of our discourse was If your Answer by your self or Friend convinced my Reasons I was to be converted by you and seek an admission into the Church of Rome If otherwise you were to be converted by me and become a Member of the Catholique Church and serve God the same way I do what I promised is performed in this paper what you promised I expect to be performed and that is My Conviction or your Conviction April 29. 1653. I Dare not convert to you ought not to continue in the Church of Rome 1. Because I have not yet received any Demonstration or winning and irrefragable Argument That the Church of Rome is the onely one Antient Visible Catholique Church of Christ out of which there is no Salvation 1. Out of the onely one Catholique Church I believe there is no Salvation But I do not believe the Church of Rome to be that onely one Catholique Church because the West is not all the World and yet the onely one Catholique Church is the Universal Congregation of Christian men and women all over the World There are Christians in the East as well as in the West Nor yet doth the Church of Rome take up all the West For there are other Christians and I hope better then those which are Members of the Church of Rome or Papists As a Papist I cannot be saved as a Catholique I may 2. Out of the Antient Catholique Church I believe there is no Salvation But I doe not believe the Church of Rome to be that Antient Catholique Church because the Antient Catholique Church both in Christ the true Head and in the Apostles the true Conclave and in Primitive Fathers as well Disjunctim as Conjunctim the true General Councils taught me To pray Our Father which art in Heaven Not as the Church of Rome doth and therefore not the Antient Catholique Church O blessed Virgin St. Peter St. Paul c. which art in Heaven To believe the Scriptures which if I do I shall be saved and not Traditions equally with the Scriptures as the Church of Rome doth and therfore not the Antient Catholique Church which if I do not I shall be damned To serve and worship God in Spirit and in truth not as the Church of Rome doth and therefore not the Antient Church In or by Images Relatively or otherwise which cannot father it self upon any farther Antiquity then the 2. Council of Nice 800 years since Anno 787. To receive the Sacrament in both kinds the Cup as well as the Pixe the Wine as well as the Bread the Blood as well as the Body not as the Church of Rome doth In one only If I do receive as the Antient Catholique Church doth teach me I shall be saved If I do not receive as the present Church of Rome commands me I shall not be damned 3. Out of the Antient visible Catholique Church I believe there is no Salvation but I do not believe the Church of Rome to be that Antient visible Catholique Church because the Antient visible Catholique Church appeared fair and without Corruption but the present Roman Church appeareth to me at least foul and cull of Corruption because the present Roman Church departed from the visible purity of the Antient Catholique Church to Innovations and the present visible Catholique Church hath reformed from those Innovations to the purity of the Antient Catholique Church 4. Out of the Antient Visible one Church I believe there is no Salvation but I do not believe the Church of Rome to be that Antient Catholique visible one Church neither in the Onenesse or unity of affection nor of opinion Not one in the unity of opinion because the Dominicans are against the Franciscans and the Franciscans against the Dominicans concerning the Imaculate conception of the blessed Virgin both Roman orders Because Bannes is as zealous as Calvin and Lessius as calm as Luther concerning absolute Reprobation both famous Schollers in the Roman Church Because Sixtus the fifth dammes all men that use any other Bible but of the vulgar translation and Clement the 8. curses all that uses any other but his own both Popes of Rome Not one in the unity of affection because the most malicious and foul mouth'd Sectaries do not raile more at the Catholique Churchmen and their order then do the Secular Priests at the Jesuits and the Jesuits at them Because the cruellest Presbyterians shew not more inhumane rage against Catholick Bishops then did Sergius or Boniface against his Predecessor Formosus damning all that he had done before and damning him after he had taken him out of his Grave and yet both these were Bishops of Rome Because I have not yet received any Demonstration or convincing and irrfragableargument That the Pope is the head of the Church The contrarie of this appears to me even from that speech of Christ which the Romans pretend is a Demonstration for it viz. Thou art Peter and upon this Rock will I build my Church and the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against it For if my blessed Master had spoken this either Personally to Saint Peter or Successively of Saint Peter it is more then probable That Saint Peter writing two Catbolique Epistles and in them mentioning his departure would at least have acquainted the Catholique Christians whom he writes to with this unum necessarium who should be his Successor and by whom all controversies should be determined But of this not a word something in these Epistles more probable against this if the Romans own exposition of one