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A68832 A briefe vievve of the weake grounds of popery as it was propounded to D. Norrice, priest, by T.V. gent: and returned without answere. Udall, Thomas. 1606 (1606) STC 24508.5; ESTC S119623 62,322 134

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church_n or_o that_o the_o church_n can_v err_v be_v by_o the_o father_n write_v purposely_o upon_o the_o same_o place_n expound_v according_a to_o the_o protestant_n sense_n give_v and_o contrary_a to_o the_o sense_n which_o the_o papist_n give_v so_o far_o be_v the_o papist_n from_o prove_v the_o general_a consent_n of_o the_o father_n in_o expound_v these_o scripture_n which_o they_o common_o object_v against_o we_o as_o thou_o be_v peter_n and_o upon_o this_o rock_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n and_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o or_o the_o promise_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v send_v to_o the_o church_n to_o lead_v it_o into_o all_o truth_n or_o to_o thou_o will_v i_o give_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n or_o the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n or_o tell_v the_o church_n or_o if_o he_o hear_v not_o the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a or_o as_o a_o publican_n or_o 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60._o 61._o 62._o 14_o that_o the_o pope_n can_v be_v no_o competent_a judge_n and_o whereunto_o the_o father_n refer_v us._n see_v pag._n 93_o etc._n etc._n let_v i_o request_v thou_o courteous_a reader_n to_o take_v no●ice_n that_o the_o text_n of_o scripture_n and_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n cite_v by_o i_o in_o this_o treatise_n shall_v all_o have_v be_v set_v down_o in_o a_o different_a letter_n from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o matter_n wherewith_o they_o be_v rank_v according_o as_o you_o see_v perform_v in_o the_o preface_n and_o in_o the_o late_a half_n of_o the_o book_n now_o by_o mean_n of_o my_o absence_n and_o want_v of_o direction_n give_v in_o this_o point_n it_o can_v not_o be_v discern_v by_o the_o printer_n how_o far_o the_o word_n of_o the_o text_n and_o testimony_n so_o to_o be_v distinguish_v may_v reach_v and_o therefore_o i_o can_v but_o free_v he_o from_o that_o blame_n as_o likewise_o 2._o or_o 3._o literal_a escape_n only_o except_v from_o imputation_n of_o 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