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A55393 Quo warranto, or, A moderate enquiry into the warrantablenesse of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons where also some other questions are discussed : viz. concerning [brace] ministerial relation, election, ordination : being a vindication of the late Jus divinum ministerii evangeliei ... from the exceptions of Mr. John Martin, Mr. Sam. Pette, Mr. Frederick Woodal ... in their late book, intituled The preacher sent / by Matthew Poole ... Poole, Matthew, 1624-1679. 1659 (1659) Wing P2850; ESTC R33938 110,108 175

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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o common_o occasion_n personal_a reflection_n and_o heterogeneous_a excursion_n and_o although_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o cast_v the_o work_n into_o a_o more_o convenient_a mould_n yet_o that_o the_o reader_n may_v with_o great_a ease_n compare_v their_o book_n and_o the_o answer_n i_o think_v fit_a to_o observe_v their_o order_n and_o to_o distinguish_v it_o according_a to_o their_o chapter_n chap._n i._n 1._o they_o question_v what_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o ministry_n and_o here_o to_o pass_v by_o impertinency_n because_o a_o minister_n be_v call_v so_o from_o ministration_n they_o infer_v that_o gift_a man_n who_o ordinary_a work_n or_o call_n be_v to_o preach_v may_v proper_o be_v call_v minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n pag._n 3._o for_o my_o part_n i_o shall_v never_o blot_v paper_n with_o contend_v about_o word_n our_o question_n be_v not_o about_o name_n but_o thing_n and_o if_o the_o word_n minister_n may_v be_v apply_v to_o twenty_o person_n we_o be_v not_o 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〈◊〉_d conclude_v that_o a_o minister_n preach_v to_o another_o congregation_n non_fw-la tantum_fw-la virtute_fw-la donorum_fw-la &_o charitatis_fw-la sed_fw-la ex_fw-la vi_fw-la vocationis_fw-la etc._n etc._n i._n e._n not_o only_o as_o a_o gift_a brother_n but_o as_o a_o officer_n and_o it_o be_v sufficient_o know_v that_o it_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o person_n of_o great_a note_n in_o that_o way_n among_o we_o in_o england_n now_o on_o the_o other_o side_n reverend_a mr._n hooker_n express_o affirm_v that_o when_o a_o minister_n preach_v to_o another_o congregation_n he_o preach_v not_o as_o a_o pastor_n but_o as_o a_o gift_a man_n survey_v part_v 2._o p._n 32._o and_o our_o brethren_n in_o this_o book_n fall_v in_o with_o he_o and_o will_v not_o allow_v minister_n either_o to_o be_v officer_n or_o to_o act_v as_o officer_n towards_o any_o except_o their_o own_o congregation_n for_o the_o better_a clear_n of_o the_o present_a question_n i_o shall_v premise_v two_o consideration_n which_o indeed_o do_v strike_v at_o the_o root_n of_o all_o their_o objection_n i._o that_o there_o be_v two_o way_n whereby_o a_o minister_n may_v be_v a_o minister_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n 1._o actu_fw-la secundo_fw-la actual_o immediate_o absolute_o and_o independent_o so_o that_o he_o may_v without_o any_o other_o warrant_v undertake_v to_o teach_v and_o govern_v the_o whole_a church_n if_o it_o be_v possible_a this_o be_v peculiar_a to_o the_o apostle_n and_o sure_o this_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a to_o distinguish_v they_o from_o ordinary_a pastor_n 2._o one_o may_v be_v a_o officer_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n actu_fw-la primo_fw-la habitual_o aptitudinal_o mediate_o conditional_o and_o depend_o so_o that_o he_o have_v a_o jus_o or_o power_n to_o teach_v every_o where_o go_v preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o every_o creature_n but_o may_v not_o exercise_v that_o jus_o or_o power_n every_o where_o but_o by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n
bishop_n that_o the_o church_n or_o his_o sheep_n be_v his_o correlatum_fw-la because_o his_o end_n and_o his_o work_n be_v their_o salvation_n so_o also_o must_v it_o need_v be_v in_o minister_n that_o their_o relation_n must_v be_v towards_o those_o among_o who_o their_o great_a work_n lie_v for_o the_o minor_fw-la no_o man_n can_v doubt_v of_o it_o that_o have_v read_v the_o scripture_n especial_o those_o forecited_n place_n mat._n 28._o &_o eph._n 4._o if_o it_o be_v say_v conversion_n indeed_o be_v the_o great_a work_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o not_o so_o of_o ordinary_a minister_n those_o be_v to_o build_v up_o what_o the_o apostle_n bring_v in_o i_o answer_v 1._o both_o those_o place_n do_v evident_o relate_v as_o well_o to_o ordinary_a minister_n as_o to_o the_o apostle_n for_o eph_n 4._o they_o be_v equal_o name_v and_o for_o mat._n 28._o it_o be_v clear_a because_o those_o minister_n who_o be_v there_o speak_v of_o and_o set_v apart_o for_o that_o work_n of_o the_o conversion_n of_o heathen_n they_o be_v assure_v by_o god_n that_o they_o shall_v continue_v to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n which_o be_v not_o true_a of_o the_o apostle_n in_o their_o own_o person_n unless_o to_o they_o you_o add_v their_o successor_n the_o ordinary_a minister_n and_o 1_o cor._n 3._o 5._o who_o be_v paul_n and_o who_o be_v apollo_n etc._n etc._n but_o minister_n by_o who_o you_o believe_v and_o that_o text_n will_v continue_v true_a to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n faith_n come_v by_o hear_v rom._n 10._o of_o ordinary_a minister_n as_o well_o as_o the_o apostle_n 2._o if_o conversion_n be_v a_o work_n common_a and_o necessary_a in_o these_o day_n as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o apostle_n day_n than_o minister_n be_v now_o appoint_v for_o that_o work_n as_o well_o as_o former_o they_o be_v for_o while_o the_o cause_n and_o reason_n remain_v the_o effect_n also_o must_v needs_o remain_v but_o conversion_n be_v a_o work_n common_a and_o necessary_a now_o as_o well_o 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argument_n offer_v by_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n against_o that_o contrary_a opinion_n that_o minister_n be_v officer_n only_o to_o their_o own_o congregation_n and_o for_o the_o better_a methodize_n of_o it_o i_o shall_v first_o with_o all_o brevity_n propound_v the_o assembly_n argument_n than_o our_o brethren_n answer_n and_o then_o add_v a_o reply_n and_o this_o i_o choose_v to_o do_v in_o this_o place_n although_o these_o thing_n be_v discuss_v by_o they_o under_o another_o head_n p._n 227_o etc._n etc._n because_o they_o proper_o concern_v this_o question_n but_o i_o shall_v pass_v they_o over_o with_o more_o brevity_n because_o it_o be_v but_o a_o collateral_a question_n and_o our_o brethren_n be_v less_o accurate_a in_o this_o than_o in_o the_o other_o point_n 1._o this_o opinion_n be_v unheard_a of_o in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n before_o these_o late_a year_n provinc_fw-la ans._n it_o suffice_v that_o it_o be_v hear_v of_o in_o the_o scripture_n reply_n but_o you_o know_v that_o be_v deny_v and_o for_o the_o church_n judgement_n as_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v advance_v into_o god_n throne_n so_o it_o be_v not_o easy_o to_o be_v slight_v where_o there_o be_v a_o universal_a consent_n of_o all_o church_n as_o there_o be_v in_o this_o case_n which_o it_o be_v hard_o to_o show_v in_o any_o error_n nemo_fw-la pacificus_fw-la contra_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la 2._o this_o opinion_n be_v contrary_a to_o our_o brother_n practice_n who_o hold_v the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n to_o be_v a_o ministerial_a act_n and_o yet_o give_v it_o to_o member_n of_o other_o congregation_n provinc_fw-la to_o this_o there_o be_v a_o double_a answer_n give_v by_o our_o brethren_n 1._o the_o main_a answer_n where_o they_o lie_v most_o stress_n which_o therefore_o i_o propose_v first_o be_v this_o that_o in_o ministerial_a act_n some_o thing_n be_v common_a to_o man_n as_o man_n as_o the_o word_n and_o prayer_n some_o be_v common_a to_o they_o as_o church_n member_n or_o as_o confederate_n with_o any_o particular_a church_n not_o consider_v this_o or_o another_o church_n as_o the_o sacrament_n other_o thing_n as_o special_a and_o proper_a to_o a_o particular_a church_n etc._n etc._n as_o excommunication_n election_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o a_o man_n may_v claim_v the_o sacrament_n as_o a_o confederate_a with_o any_o church_n and_o as_o a_o father_n give_v instruction_n to_o his_o child_n and_o servant_n teach_v they_o as_o a_o father_n and_o master_n but_o if_o stranger_n come_v in_o and_o partake_v of_o the_o instruction_n he_o teach_v they_o not_o by_o virtue_n of_o any_o such_o relation_n so_o if_o a_o pastor_n preach_v and_o give_v the_o sacrament_n occasional_o he_o act_v not_o as_o a_o pastor_n and_o officer_n to_o they_o this_o be_v the_o strength_n of_o what_o our_o brethren_n say_v p._n 278_o 279_o 280._o reply_v 1_o if_o our_o brethren_n perceive_v not_o how_o they_o have_v overshoot_v themselves_o i_o question_v not_o but_o any_o 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indeed_o we_o have_v in_o the_o suppose_a case_n according_a to_o our_o brethren_n principle_n 2._o a_o power_n in_o the_o giver_n to_o administer_v and_o this_o none_o have_v but_o a_o officer_n and_o none_o can_v do_v it_o but_o as_o a_o officer_n and_o therefore_o no_o man_n can_v give_v it_o to_o any_o but_o to_o they_o to_o who_o he_o be_v a_o officer_n and_o act_n as_o a_o officer_n and_o therefore_o they_o can_v give_v it_o to_o any_o member_n of_o other_o congregation_n and_o this_o acute_a mr._n hooker_n be_v so_o sensible_a of_o that_o he_o grant_v it_o in_o terminis_fw-la use_v these_o word_n touch_v the_o partake_n of_o the_o sacrament_n by_o some_o of_o one_o congregation_n in_o another_o it_o have_v be_v a_o course_n which_o i_o have_v ever_o question_v and_o against_o it_o i_o have_v allege_v many_o argument_n profess_v the_o course_n unwarrantable_a for_o this_o reason_n among_o other_o because_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o ministerial_a act_n 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desert_v their_o own_o principle_n and_o have_v through_o incogitancy_n precipitate_v themselves_o into_o the_o gulf_n of_o anabaptism_n which_o i_o doubt_v not_o in_o their_o next_o either_o their_o prudence_n or_o their_o ingenuity_n will_v oblige_v they_o to_o retract_v 2._o the_o provincial_a assembly_n be_v not_o oblige_v to_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o excentrical_a opinion_n of_o every_o particular_a congregational_a man_n but_o of_o those_o which_o be_v own_v by_o the_o generality_n of_o they_o and_o by_o such_o as_o seem_v to_o be_v pillar_n among_o they_o and_o sure_o i_o be_o such_o will_v reject_v this_o notion_n of_o a_o man_n give_v the_o sacrament_n as_o a_o gift_a brother_n they_o know_v the_o rule_n quod_fw-la competit_fw-la rei_fw-la qua_fw-la tali_fw-la competit_fw-la omni_fw-la tali_fw-la if_o a_o pastor_n give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o stranger_n not_o as_o a_o pastor_n or_o officer_n but_o as_o a_o gift_a brother_n for_o that_o be_v the_o other_o member_n of_o the_o distinction_n than_o every_o gift_a brother_n may_v administer_v the_o sacrament_n which_o i_o suppose_v our_o brethren_n will_v tremble_v to_o grant_v and_o therefore_o they_o must_v call_v back_o their_o own_o word_n too_o loose_o deliver_v 2._o but_o however_o say_v they_o this_o be_v a_o argument_n against_o our_o practice_n not_o the_o assertion_n reply_n yes_o it_o may_v give_v just_a cause_n of_o suspicion_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o that_o assertion_n which_o inevitable_o draw_v along_o with_o it_o such_o a_o strange_a conclusion_n as_o this_o that_o no_o man_n may_v receive_v the_o sacrament_n any_o where_o but_o in_o his_o own_o congregation_n which_o be_v in_o a_o great_a measure_n to_o cut_v the_o sinew_n of_o christian_a and_o church-communion_n and_o yet_o for_o aught_o either_o i_o or_o mr_n hooker_n see_v either_o this_o conclusion_n must_v be_v embrace_v or_o the_o principle_n reject_v i_o pass_v on_o to_o the_o reason_n there_o be_v say_v the_o assembly_n seven_o ill_a consequence_n which_o follow_v this_o assertion_n that_o a_o minister_n can_v perform_v no_o pastoral_n act_v out_o of_o his_o own_o congregation_n i_o shall_v reduce_v they_o to_o two_o or_o three_o 1._o then_o a_o minister_n at_o the_o same_o time_n preach_v to_o his_o own_o member_n as_o a_o minister_n and_o to_o other_o as_o a_o gift_a man_n only_o 2._o then_o a_o minister_n baptize_v only_o into_o his_o own_o congregation_n not_o into_o the_o catholic_n church_n contrary_a to_o 1_o cor._n 12._o 13._o and_o so_o a_o minister_n can_v baptize_v none_o but_o those_o that_o be_v member_n of_o his_o own_o congregation_n and_o so_o there_o be_v no_o way_n to_o baptize_v heathen_n convert_v nor_o the_o child_n of_o such_o parent_n as_o can_v be_v member_n of_o any_o congregation_n and_o here_o our_o brethren_n bring_v in_o that_o argument_n mention_v by_o the_o provinc_fw-la that_o a_o minister_n ministerial_o admit_v into_o and_o eject_v out_o of_o the_o church-catholick_n and_o therefore_o be_v a_o minister_n of_o the_o church-catholick_n and_o not_o only_o of_o his_o particular_a congregation_n p._n 281_o etc._n etc._n let_v we_o now_o hear_v what_o our_o brethren_n have_v to_o answer_n 1._o they_o say_v we_o see_v no_o absurdity_n in_o say_v that_o a_o minister_n preach_v to_o some_o as_o a_o officer_n and_o at_o the_o same_o time_n preach_v to_o other_o not_o as_o a_o officer_n reply_v 1_o this_o be_v a_o conceit_n for_o which_o there_o be_v no_o shadow_n in_o the_o scripture_n nay_o it_o be_v not_o only_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o only_o without_o but_o against_o the_o evidence_n of_o scripture_n minister_n wherever_o or_o to_o whosoever_o they_o do_v the_o work_n of_o ambassador_n whosoever_o they_o beseech_v to_o be_v reconcile_v to_o they_o they_o act_n as_o ambassador_n and_o who_o sin_n soever_o they_o remit_v doctrinal_o which_o be_v a_o act_n of_o office_n they_o be_v remit_v and_o who_o sin_n soever_o they_o retain_v in_o preach_v they_o be_v retain_v whether_o their_o hearer_n be_v stranger_n or_o of_o their_o own_o congregation_n and_o this_o they_o do_v by_o virtue_n of_o their_o office_n sure_o it_o be_v very_o harsh_a to_o say_v that_o all_o stranger_n which_o hear_v a_o minister_n be_v no_o more_o bind_v to_o hear_v and_o obey_v he_o then_o to_o hear_v or_o obey_v any_o woman_n discourse_v private_o of_o those_o thing_n and_o that_o a_o stranger_n reject_v his_o message_n be_v no_o way_n guilty_a of_o the_o contempt_n of_o his_o office_n it_o will_v be_v a_o happy_a thing_n if_o that_o will_v be_v a_o sufficient_a plea_n at_o the_o last_o day_n nay_o by_o this_o rule_n the_o very_a apostle_n themselves_o as_o we_o have_v more_o large_o see_v must_v when_o preach_v to_o heathen_n be_v canton_v into_o the_o order_n of_o gift_a man_n and_o if_o that_o be_v true_a it_o be_v no_o act_n of_o their_o office_n to_o disciple_v nation_n and_o to_o gather_v in_o the_o saint_n and_o all_o those_o heathen_n which_o be_v now_o convert_v by_o minister_n be_v not_o convert_v by_o virtue_n of_o the_o minister_n office_n nor_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n appoint_v for_o the_o gather_n in_o of_o soul_n but_o only_o for_o the_o build_n up_o of_o such_o as_o be_v bring_v in_o contrary_a to_o mat._n 28._o &_o eph._n 4._o as_o have_v be_v argue_v 2._o they_o argue_v against_o that_o position_n that_o a_o man_n be_v make_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n p._n 284._o whereas_o indeed_o it_o be_v none_o of_o our_o assertion_n and_o so_o all_o that_o labour_n both_o of_o they_o and_o mr_n hooker_n be_v lose_v they_o can_v but_o know_v that_o we_o allow_v infant_n to_o be_v bear_v church-member_n and_o make_v their_o church-membership_a the_o ground_n of_o their_o baptism_n and_o a_o par_fw-fr a_o heathen_a convert_v and_o profess_v the_o faith_n be_v a_o church-member_n inchoatè_fw-fr before_o baptism_n this_o only_a we_o say_v that_o the_o solemn_a public_a and_o visible_a way_n of_o admission_n of_o member_n into_o the_o church_n be_v by_o baptism_n and_o this_o can_v be_v easy_o deny_v by_o any_o one_o that_o look_v either_o to_o the_o jewish_a or_o christian_a church_n for_o as_o since_o the_o new_a testament_n begin_v it_o have_v always_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n so_o be_v it_o also_o unto_o proselyte_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n who_o use_v to_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o jewish_a church_n by_o baptism_n selden_n as_o divers_a learned_a man_n have_v prove_v or_o if_o our_o brethren_n question_n that_o yet_o at_o least_o circumcision_n to_o which_o our_o baptism_n answer_v be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o the_o jewish_a church_n but_o of_o this_o more_o hereafter_o 3._o they_o deny_v that_o a_o minister_n eject_v out_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n not_o the_o minister_n but_o the_o person_n renounce_v his_o profession_n eject_v himself_o out_o of_o it_o he_o may_v be_v eject_v with_o and_o not_o by_o excommunication_n and_o how_o can_v a_o man_n be_v eject_v out_o of_o a_o particular_a church_n make_v he_o no_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n if_o be_v eject_v out_o of_o office_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n do_v not_o make_v a_o man_n no_o officer_n to_o the_o catholic_n visible_a church_n p._n 285._o reply_v 1_o here_o two_o thing_n be_v oppose_v which_o may_v be_v conjoin_v for_o both_o the_o person_n eject_v himself_o and_o the_o minister_n eject_v he_o he_o eject_v himself_o meritorious_o the_o minister_n efficient_o and_o juridical_o 2._o either_o a_o minister_n eject_v a_o man_n just_o out_o of_o his_o own_o church_n eject_v he_o out_o of_o all_o other_o church_n and_o that_o can_v be_v but_o by_o virtue_n of_o a_o catholic_n church_n etc._n etc._n or_o he_o be_v not_o juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o other_o church_n and_o so_o he_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n of_o be_v receive_v into_o other_o church_n which_o what_o horrid_a confusion_n it_o will_v introduce_v into_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o how_o incongruous_a it_o be_v unto_o his_o wisdom_n in_o who_o be_v hide_v all_o the_o treasure_n of_o wisdom_n and_o knowledge_n to_o appoint_v a_o remedy_n so_o short_a and_o insufficient_a for_o the_o disease_n i_o leave_v to_o all_o sober_a man_n to_o judge_v and_o this_o be_v not_o a_o bare_a suggestion_n for_o experience_n show_v that_o the_o effect_n of_o this_o principle_n be_v such_o and_o person_n juridical_o and_o just_o eject_v out_o of_o one_o church_n have_v be_v admit_v into_o another_o church_n who_o it_o may_v be_v apprehend_v he_o to_o have_v be_v unjust_o deal_v with_o and_o according_a to_o this_o principle_n there_o be_v no_o remedy_n but_o so_o it_o must_v be_v 3._o for_o the_o eject_v of_o officer_n i_o say_v 1._o that_o a_o church_n in_o their_o sense_n i._n e._n the_o body_n
of_o the_o people_n have_v no_o power_n of_o eject_v of_o officer_n as_o our_o brethren_n suppose_v 2._o that_o when_o a_o minister_n be_v juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o office_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n by_o deposition_n he_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o officer_n to_o the_o catholic_n church_n 4._o they_o say_v according_a to_o our_o way_n also_o we_o can_v baptize_v heathen_n for_o if_o there_o be_v a_o catholic_n church_n minister_n be_v only_a officer_n in_o the_o church_n and_o not_o to_o the_o heathen_n convert_v so_o can_v baptize_v they_o reply_n minister_n be_v officer_n not_o only_o to_o those_o that_o be_v actual_o member_n of_o the_o church_n but_o to_o all_o that_o shall_v be_v bring_v in_o as_o we_o have_v show_v they_o be_v officer_n even_o to_o heathen_n in_o the_o sense_n before_o explain_v as_o they_o do_v ex_fw-la officio_fw-la offer_v they_o a_o pardon_n and_o give_v it_o upon_o their_o repentance_n so_o they_o do_v ex_fw-la officio_fw-la admit_v they_o into_o the_o church_n 5._o they_o say_v in_o such_o a_o case_n heathen_n may_v join_v as_o member_n to_o some_o church_n and_o so_o be_v baptize_v reply_n our_o brethren_n shall_v not_o obtrude_v such_o uncouth_a notion_n upon_o the_o world_n without_o evident_a proof_n their_o answer_n imply_v as_o if_o there_o be_v some_o other_o way_n whereby_o a_o man_n may_v be_v make_v a_o complete_a church-member_n without_o baptism_n whereas_o in_o scripture_n there_o be_v ne_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n if_o there_o be_v let_v our_o brethren_n show_v it_o sure_o we_o be_v the_o new_a testament_n way_n be_v by_o baptism_n but_o of_o this_o more_o by_o and_o by_o and_o this_o be_v all_o of_o any_o moment_n which_o our_o brethren_n have_v to_o say_v by_o way_n of_o answer_n to_o the_o forego_n argument_n 3._o another_o argument_n use_v by_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n be_v this_o that_o from_o hence_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o when_o a_o minister_n leave_v or_o be_v put_v from_o his_o particular_a charge_n he_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o minister_n and_o so_o when_o he_o take_v up_o a_o new_a charge_n he_o need_v a_o new_a ordination_n which_o be_v absurd_a because_o every_o minister_n be_v seat_v in_o the_o catholic_n church_n 1_o cor._n 12._o eph._n 4._o and_o as_o a_o private_a christian_a remove_v from_o his_o church_n do_v not_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o then_o his_o baptism_n shall_v cease_v for_o every_o baptize_v person_n be_v a_o church-member_n and_o needs_o not_o to_o be_v baptize_v a_o new_a so_o a_o minister_n go_v from_o a_o congregation_n need_v not_o to_o be_v ordain_v a_o new_a to_o this_o our_o brethren_n answer_v divers_a thing_n 1._o they_o say_v this_o run_v into_o direct_a anabaptism_n for_o by_o this_o rule_n a_o excommunicate_a person_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n his_o baptism_n cease_v and_o so_o he_o need_v to_o be_v rebaptise_v when_o he_o be_v readmit_v p._n 292._o reply_v i._n but_o this_o follow_v not_o for_o a_o double_a reason_n 1._o it_o may_v be_v say_v that_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n ordinary_o be_v a_o member_n though_o a_o disease_a member_n 2_o thess._n 3._o admonish_v he_o as_o a_o brother_n he_o towards_o who_o i_o owe_v the_o duty_n of_o a_o fellow-member_n be_v a_o fellow-member_n but_o i_o owe_v the_o duty_n of_o a_o fellow-member_n viz._n fraternal_a admonition_n to_o such_o a_o one_o again_o he_o who_o be_v under_o a_o church_n ordinance_n appoint_v for_o his_o good_a be_v a_o church-member_n though_o disease_v and_o under_o cure_n but_o such_o a_o one_o be_v under_o a_o ordinance_n ergo._fw-la 2._o though_o his_o baptism_n cease_v at_o present_a actual_o and_o real_o as_o to_o all_o the_o actual_a privilege_n of_o it_o and_o so_o cease_v that_o while_o he_o repent_v not_o he_o be_v to_o be_v look_v upon_o after_o a_o sort_n as_o a_o unbaptised_a person_n or_o as_o a_o heathen_a yet_o when_o he_o do_v repent_v and_o renew_v his_o covenant_n and_o re-admit_a himself_o to_o the_o church_n he_o need_v no_o new_a baptism_n for_o as_o much_o as_o god_n be_v please_v to_o impute_v to_o he_o his_o former_a baptism_n and_o the_o church_n accept_v of_o it_o and_o this_o be_v the_o benefit_n of_o his_o repentance_n that_o god_n look_v upon_o his_o sin_n repent_v of_o as_o if_o they_o have_v never_o be_v commit_v and_o so_o in_o that_o case_n he_o look_v on_o he_o as_o if_o he_o have_v never_o fall_v from_o his_o baptism_n and_o so_o he_o need_v no_o new_a one_o just_o as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o case_n of_o circumcision_n when_o any_o turn_v heathen_a or_o idolater_n and_o renounce_v his_o circumcision_n he_o be_v to_o be_v repute_v as_o a_o heathen_a while_o such_o and_o yet_o whenever_o he_o repent_v he_o need_v no_o new_a circumcision_n but_o his_o former_a circumcision_n be_v accept_v by_o god_n for_o he_o ii_o the_o argument_n fall_v upon_o our_o brethren_n principle_n not_o upon_o we_o for_o to_o we_o who_o assert_v that_o baptism_n be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o the_o catholic_n church_n it_o be_v uncontroverted_a that_o a_o man_n remove_v from_o one_o church_n may_v be_v admit_v to_o any_o other_o because_o his_o baptism_n give_v he_o a_o complete_a visible_a and_o political_a membership_n not_o only_o with_o that_o church_n he_o be_v admit_v into_o but_o with_o all_o other_o and_o this_o membership_n and_o baptism_n though_o they_o be_v lose_v in_o the_o sense_n before_o speak_v yet_o upon_o his_o repentance_n be_v recover_v but_o our_o brethren_n who_o make_v baptism_n only_o the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o a_o particular_a church_n they_o must_v own_v this_o conclusion_n that_o upon_o every_o removal_n there_o must_v be_v a_o new_a baptism_n even_o as_o it_o be_v in_o civil_a corporation_n which_o because_o they_o be_v distinct_a from_o one_o another_o and_o there_o be_v no_o general_a corporation_n of_o which_o each_o of_o these_o be_v member_n therefore_o whenever_o a_o member_n pass_v from_o one_o to_o another_o he_o need_v to_o be_v admit_v a_o new_a by_o what_o way_n soever_o they_o use_v in_o the_o admission_n of_o member_n and_o to_o save_v they_o from_o this_o intolerable_a inconvenience_n they_o have_v no_o shelter_n but_o one_o which_o come_v in_o the_o next_o place_n 2._o they_o say_v baptism_n do_v not_o admit_v or_o make_v a_o man_n to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o church_n either_o general_a or_o particular_a but_o it_o be_v a_o solemn_a sign_n of_o a_o person_n take_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n upon_o he_o and_o therefore_o that_o remain_v wherever_o he_o remove_v pag._n 293._o reply_v 1_o our_o brethren_n grant_v even-now_o that_o baptism_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o a_o man_n admission_n to_o the_o church_n 2._o this_o may_v well_o stand_v with_o its_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o a_o person_n take_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n nay_o indeed_o it_o be_v the_o same_o thing_n in_o substance_n for_o what_o be_v a_o church_n but_o a_o company_n of_o man_n profess_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n and_o what_o then_o be_v it_o to_o be_v a_o solemn_a sign_n of_o a_o man_n admission_n into_o the_o church_n but_o to_o be_v a_o solemn_a sign_n of_o his_o be_v a_o professor_n of_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n 3._o what_o a_o monstrous_a paradox_n be_v this_o baptism_n make_v not_o a_o man_n to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o church_n this_o shall_v not_o have_v be_v dictate_v without_o any_o proof_n but_o demonstrate_v by_o clear_a evidence_n it_o be_v against_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n sure_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o of_o this_o mind_n when_o he_o say_v we_o be_v all_o baptize_v into_o one_o body_n 1_o cor._n 12._o 13._o by_o which_o it_o be_v most_o evident_a that_o baptism_n give_v a_o man_n relation_n to_o some_o body_n and_o it_o be_v also_o plain_a that_o he_o speak_v of_o a_o visible_a body_n because_o it_o be_v a_o organical_a body_n have_v the_o distinction_n of_o teacher_n and_o teach_v etc._n etc._n and_o 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a_o measure_n that_o paul_n call_v they_o his_o co-worker_n or_o fellow_n labourer_n for_o so_o much_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d import_v in_o the_o work_n of_o the_o gospel_n rom._n 16._o 3._o nor_o be_v it_o in_o the_o least_o intimate_v that_o they_o be_v not_o gift_v to_o speak_v in_o public_a and_o therefore_o see_v the_o excellency_n of_o their_o gift_n be_v mention_v without_o any_o note_n of_o restraint_n or_o diminution_n it_o be_v most_o ingenuous_a and_o reasonable_a to_o conclude_v they_o be_v apt_a to_o speak_v public_o 2._o they_o instruct_v apollo_n private_o for_o that_o be_v most_o expedient_a p._n 42._o ans._n it_o be_v true_a it_o be_v most_o fit_a to_o do_v it_o private_o yet_o not_o so_o as_o that_o it_o be_v inconvenient_a to_o advise_v apollo_n to_o be_v a_o diligent_a hearer_n public_o they_o may_v have_v teach_v apollo_n with_o other_o public_o without_o any_o reflection_n upon_o he_o see_v therefore_o we_o read_v of_o their_o do_v it_o private_o not_o a_o word_n of_o their_o do_v it_o public_o it_o be_v a_o certain_a truth_n which_o we_o assert_v that_o they_o instruct_v private_o and_o but_o a_o mere_a supposition_n that_o they_o do_v or_o may_v do_v it_o public_o 2._o as_o to_o the_o main_a objection_n they_o say_v many_o thing_n to_o take_v notice_n of_o all_o they_o say_v will_v be_v needless_a the_o strength_n of_o what_o they_o have_v lie_v in_o these_o thing_n 1._o private_a man_n may_v do_v the_o same_o work_n with_o preach_v i._n e._n they_o may_v open_v and_o apply_v scripture_n exhort_v rebuke_n etc._n etc._n p._n 44._o and_o because_o they_o know_v we_o grant_v this_o and_o say_v they_o may_v do_v the_o same_o work_n but_o not_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n not_o public_o they_o add_v 2._o that_o every_o church-member_n be_v oblige_v to_o teach_v and_o admonish_v every_o fellow_n member_n as_o occasion_n require_v p_o 46._o ans._n if_o they_o mean_v that_o every_o member_n be_v bind_v to_o do_v this_o public_o else_o it_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o to_o do_v it_o private_o we_o allow_v than_o not_o only_o gift_v brethren_n but_o all_o the_o brethren_n yea_o and_o sister_n to_o not_o only_o may_v but_o must_v turn_v public_a preacher_n 3._o a_o public_a gift_n can_v be_v full_o improve_v if_o it_o be_v not_o use_v public_o but_o private_o only_a p._n 47._o ans._n 1._o if_o therefore_o any_o real_o have_v public_a gift_n and_o desire_v to_o use_v they_o public_o let_v they_o with_o the_o household_n of_o stephanas_n addict_v themselves_o whole_o to_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n and_o not_o interlope_v betwixt_o two_o calling_n 2._o i_o will_v know_v of_o our_o brethren_n whether_o this_o
that_o he_o be_v convert_v nay_o possible_o he_o may_v not_o clear_o understand_v what_o the_o work_n of_o conversion_n be_v 2._o whereas_o it_o be_v further_o say_v that_o apollo_n might_n have_v a_o commission_n from_o john_n to_o preach_v they_o say_v let_v they_o prove_v it_o that_o can_v the_o gospel_n be_v silent_a as_o to_o that_o p._n 71._o reply_v 1_o our_o brethren_n must_v remember_v the_o proof_n lie_v upon_o they_o to_o make_v good_a that_o he_o be_v not_o ordain_v not_o upon_o we_o to_o prove_v that_o he_o be_v ordain_v for_o if_o we_o lie_v down_o this_o position_n that_o mere_o gift_a man_n ought_v not_o to_o preach_v etc._n etc._n if_o they_o offer_v any_o instance_n to_o the_o contrary_a they_o must_v make_v this_o good_a that_o such_o be_v only_o gift_v man_n and_o not_o ordain_v they_o be_v not_o so_o unacquainted_a with_o the_o law_n of_o disputation_n as_o not_o to_o know_v that_o the_o proof_n lie_v on_o the_o opponent_n part_n which_o they_o manage_v in_o this_o 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as_o ready_o allow_v to_o gift_a man_n as_o to_o write_v in_o defence_n of_o the_o truth_n 5._o say_v that_o apollo_n be_v not_o ordain_v which_o be_v all_o our_o brethren_n can_v extort_v or_o desire_v yet_o this_o give_v they_o no_o help_n at_o all_o for_o the_o extraordinarinesse_n of_o his_o gift_n may_v well_o supply_v the_o defect_n of_o a_o ordination_n and_o that_o be_v no_o precedent_n for_o such_o who_o gift_n be_v but_o ordinary_a and_o thus_o much_o for_o their_o first_o example_n the_o second_o be_v that_o locus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o famous_a instance_n of_o the_o scatter_a saint_n act_n 8._o about_o which_o i_o shall_v not_o engage_v myself_o nor_o detain_v the_o reader_n with_o repeat_v those_o various_a answer_n that_o be_v give_v to_o it_o by_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n which_o may_v easy_o be_v vindicate_v from_o their_o exception_n i_o shall_v not_o stand_v upon_o this_o that_o the_o person_n scatter_v be_v if_o not_o sole_o yet_o main_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n who_o may_v therefore_o preach_v etc._n etc._n but_o that_o which_o whole_o invalidate_n this_o place_n as_o to_o their_o purpose_n be_v that_o which_o be_v common_o say_v that_o this_o be_v a_o extraordinary_a case_n a_o case_n of_o necessity_n and_o mark_v the_o weight_n of_o our_o brethren_n deduction_n from_o this_o place_n because_o the_o scatter_a disciple_n in_o a_o persecute_a state_n of_o the_o church_n in_o a_o time_n when_o all_o church-order_n be_v break_v preach_v and_o teach_v jesus_n christ_n to_o heathen_n and_o unbelieve_a jew_n occasional_o it_o may_v be_v in_o private_a or_o with_o paul_n in_o the_o market_n place_n etc._n etc._n or_o in_o their_o synagogue_n dispute_v with_o they_o therefore_o now_o unordain_v person_n may_v preach_v public_o and_o solemn_o to_o a_o christian_a church_n settle_a and_o constitute_v wherein_o be_v plenty_n of_o able_a and_o godly_a pastor_n and_o where_o as_o their_o preach_n be_v not_o necessary_a so_o to_o many_o fear_v god_n it_o be_v high_o scandalous_a this_o be_v the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o argument_n and_o if_o our_o brethren_n be_v not_o sick_a of_o this_o consequence_n i_o shall_v say_v they_o have_v good_a stomach_n but_o this_o must_v not_o pass_v so_o and_o therefore_o they_o make_v a_o assault_n upon_o it_o and_o there_o be_v three_o or_o four_o thing_n which_o they_o say_v lest_o they_o shall_v say_v nothing_o which_o stand_v in_o the_o room_n of_o answer_n with_o which_o i_o must_v profess_v i_o wonder_v how_o sober_a ingenious_a and_o conscientious_a man_n such_o as_o i_o hope_v our_o brethren_n be_v can_v satisfy_v themselves_o but_o such_o as_o they_o be_v we_o shall_v give_v they_o a_o fair_a hear_n 1._o they_o say_v persecution_n lay_v no_o necessity_n upon_o they_o to_o preach_v p._n 85._o ans._n yes_o it_o lay_v a_o necessity_n upon_o they_o i._n e._n in_o order_n to_o god_n glory_n and_o the_o salvation_n of_o soul_n which_o can_v not_o be_v have_v without_o preach_v rom._n 10._o and_o preach_v can_v not_o now_o be_v have_v in_o a_o ordinary_a way_n upon_o this_o supposition_n that_o in_o those_o time_n god_n will_v have_v all_o man_n to_o be_v save_v and_o to_o come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n it_o be_v necessary_a that_o they_o shall_v preach_v for_o as_o much_o as_o there_o can_v be_v no_o salvation_n without_o preach_v rom._n 10._o 2._o they_o say_v it_o be_v questionable_a whether_o necessity_n can_v make_v that_o lawful_a which_o be_v in_o itself_o unlawful_a as_o to_o forswear_v a_o man_n self_n p._n 86._o ans._n there_o be_v two_o kind_n of_o evil_a and_o unlawfulness_n some_o thing_n be_v simple_o and_o absolute_o evil_a and_o prohibita_fw-la quia_fw-la mala_fw-la forbid_v because_o they_o be_v intrinsical_o evil_a as_o to_o forswear_v to_o blaspheam_n god_n etc._n etc._n and_o these_o no_o necessity_n can_v excuse_v but_o there_o be_v other_o thing_n which_o be_v in_o themselves_o indifferent_a and_o 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ordination_n can_v be_v have_v in_o god_n way_n i._n e._n when_o election_n do_v not_o go_v before_o it_o p._n 86._o ans._n 1._o that_o election_n must_v necessary_o and_o continual_o go_v before_o ordination_n be_v but_o one_o of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o supposition_n to_o be_v confute_v hereafter_o 2._o and_o if_o ordinary_o election_n must_v go_v before_o ordination_n yet_o as_o we_o say_v of_o preach_v when_o ordination_n can_v be_v have_v it_o may_v be_v do_v without_o it_o so_o it_o be_v true_a of_o election_n when_o it_o can_v be_v have_v ordination_n must_v be_v take_v without_o it_o and_o when_o ordination_n can_v be_v have_v exact_o in_o god_n way_n as_o to_o all_o the_o particular_n it_o must_v be_v have_v as_o it_o may_v the_o shewbread_n be_v ordinary_o according_a to_o god_n way_n to_o be_v eat_v by_o the_o priest_n alone_o but_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n it_o may_v be_v eat_v out_o of_o god_n way_n it_o may_v be_v eat_v by_o other_o 3._o it_o be_v 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which_o way_n other_o consideration_n will_v determine_v it_o for_o the_o second_o where_o most_o difficulty_n lie_v i_o reply_v 1._o a_o man_n may_v proper_o be_v say_v to_o neglect_v his_o office_n or_o to_o disregard_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v careless_a in_o his_o office_n or_o in_o the_o execution_n of_o his_o office_n i_o know_v no_o absurdity_n in_o it_o either_o in_o the_o english_a or_o in_o the_o greek_a tongue_n if_o a_o magistrate_n be_v slothful_a careless_a etc._n etc._n we_o may_v proper_o say_v he_o neglect_v that_o office_n that_o god_n have_v put_v he_o in_o he_o neglect_v his_o place_n and_o as_o a_o man_n be_v say_v to_o neglect_v himself_o when_o he_o neglect_v those_o thing_n and_o those_o action_n which_o concern_v himself_o so_o a_o man_n neglect_v his_o office_n that_o neglect_v the_o work_n of_o his_o office_n so_o for_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d strip_v it_o of_o the_o metaphor_n and_o it_o be_v no_o more_o but_o this_o put_v forth_o actuate_v exercise_v thy_o office_n paul_n bid_v he_o stir_v up_o his_o ministry_n be_v no_o more_o than_o what_o elsewhere_o he_o bid_v he_o fulfil_v thy_o ministry_n do_v the_o work_n of_o a_o evangelist_n he_o that_o neglect_v the_o work_n of_o his_o ministry_n invalidate_n his_o office_n disuse_v neglect_v his_o office_n and_o he_o that_o fulfil_v the_o work_n of_o his_o ministry_n stir_v up_o his_o office_n for_o that_o other_o criticism_n that_o a_o man_n be_v in_o his_o office_n not_o his_o office_n in_o he_o the_o office_n be_v ad●oyned_v to_o he_o not_o inhaerent_a in_o he_o that_o be_v hardly_o worth_a take_v notice_n of_o because_o the_o preposition_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v so_o various_o sometime_o for_o one_o preposition_n sometime_o for_o another_o sometime_o for_o that_o which_o be_v inherent_a in_o he_o sometime_o for_o that_o which_o be_v adjoin_v to_o he_o as_o all_o know_v that_o be_v not_o whole_o stranger_n to_o the_o greek_a tongue_n that_o it_o be_v a_o vanity_n to_o lay_v any_o stress_n upon_o it_o sometime_o it_o be_v take_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sometime_o for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sometime_o for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n and_o sometime_o in_o for_o apud_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v for_o a_o man_n to_o be_v apud_fw-la se_fw-la for_o a_o man_n not_o to_o be_v beside_o himself_o so_o here_o the_o office_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apudte_fw-la with_o thou_o which_o be_v commit_v to_o thou_o and_o as_o man_n be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o sin_n though_o indeed_o it_o be_v sin_n that_o be_v in_o they_o and_o they_o be_v say_v to_o enter_v into_o their_o master_n joy_n though_o to_o
they_o say_v little_a to_o the_o purpose_n and_o what_o they_o do_v say_v be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n either_o nothing_o else_o but_o a_o repetition_n of_o their_o disprove_v principle_n or_o so_o infirm_a that_o i_o may_v safe_o leave_v thing_n to_o any_o ingenuous_a reader_n who_o shall_v compare_v our_o argument_n and_o their_o answer_n nevertheless_o i_o will_v not_o whole_o omit_v this_o task_n also_o but_o where_o i_o can_v pick_v up_o any_o thing_n that_o require_v a_o answer_n and_o have_v not_o be_v already_o dispatch_v i_o shall_v here_o take_v notice_n of_o it_o they_o offer_v divers_a argument_n to_o prove_v this_o proposition_n that_o in_o a_o church_n which_o want_v officer_n some_o believer_n may_v lawful_o ordain_v without_o officer_n 1._o else_o ordination_n be_v unattainable_a for_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n nor_o precedent_n of_o a_o ordinary_a officer_n act_v in_o ordination_n out_o of_o the_o particular_a church_n he_o be_v over_o in_o the_o place_n which_o speak_v of_o ordination_n to_o wit_n act_v 6._o and_o 13._o 14._o 1_o tim._n 5._o 22._o 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o the_o person_n ordain_v be_v all_o extraordinary_a and_o so_o no_o precedent_n for_o ordinary_a officer_n and_o for_o 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o we_o see_v nothing_o to_o convince_v we_o that_o it_o be_v a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n answer_n 1._o there_o be_v divers_a practice_n lawful_o use_v even_o in_o our_o brethren_n judgement_n which_o yet_o we_o find_v no_o precedent_n for_o but_o such_o as_o extraordinary_a person_n be_v concern_v in_o i_o will_v instance_n but_o in_o one_o and_o that_o be_v excommunication_n which_o we_o never_o read_v practise_v but_o by_o the_o authority_n and_o concurrence_n of_o a_o extraordinary_a officer_n paul_n practise_v it_o i_o have_v deliver_v he_o to_o satan_n and_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n practise_v it_o but_o not_o without_o paul_n express_a command_n and_o positive_a warrant_n and_o concurrence_n 1_o cor._n 5._o 3_o 4._o for_o i_o very_o as_o absent_v in_o body_n but_o present_a in_o spirit_n have_v judge_v already_o etc._n etc._n when_o you_o be_v gather_v together_o and_o my_o spirit_n and_o yet_o our_o brethren_n allow_v and_o infer_v this_o as_o a_o precedent_n for_o the_o practice_n of_o excommunication_n by_o ordinary_a church_n and_o ordinary_a person_n and_o therefore_o good_a reason_n they_o shall_v allow_v we_o the_o same_o liberty_n 2._o and_o the_o rather_o because_o this_o make_v against_o our_o brethren_n as_o well_o as_o we_o it_o be_v their_o own_o grant_n that_o ordination_n be_v a_o institution_n of_o christ_n now_o in_o force_n and_o that_o it_o be_v to_o be_v manage_v by_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n where_o there_o be_v such_o so_o that_o both_o they_o and_o we_o be_v thus_o far_o agree_v that_o ordinary_a officer_n may_v ordain_v now_o if_o what_o they_o say_v be_v true_a then_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n nor_o precedent_n for_o the_o ordain_v of_o officer_n and_o so_o it_o follow_v from_o hence_o not_o only_o that_o none_o but_o officer_n may_v ordain_v which_o we_o assert_v but_o also_o that_o officer_n may_v not_o ordain_v at_o all_o unless_o they_o will_v say_v officer_n may_v do_v that_o for_o which_o they_o have_v neither_o precept_n nor_o precedent_n so_o that_o our_o brethren_n argument_n either_o do_v not_o praejudice_v we_o or_o else_o it_o enervate_v their_o own_o principle_n 3._o the_o true_a way_n therefore_o to_o discern_v what_o act_n of_o extraordinary_a officer_n be_v presidentiall_a to_o ordinary_a and_o what_o not_o be_v this_o those_o action_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o those_o time_n those_o action_n which_o be_v the_o result_v of_o extraordinary_a gift_n those_o action_n which_o be_v appendant_o to_o a_o extraordinary_a jurisdiction_n those_o be_v no_o precedent_n for_o we_o the_o apostle_n heal_v the_o sick_a by_o anounce_v with_o oil_n their_o preach_n without_o study_n their_o order_n of_o the_o church_n affair_n by_o their_o single_a jurisdiction_n these_o thing_n be_v unimitable_a by_o we_o but_o now_o on_o the_o otherside_n those_o action_n of_o extraordinary_a officer_n which_o be_v common_a to_o all_o the_o age_n of_o the_o church_n those_o which_o may_v be_v transact_v by_o ordinary_a gift_n and_o ordinary_a jurisdiction_n those_o be_v precedent_n for_o we_o the_o apostle_n public_a pray_v and_o preach_v administer_a the_o sacrament_n authoritative_a rebuke_v roll_a censure_a etc._n etc._n i_o say_v their_o act_n of_o those_o thing_n be_v and_o be_v ever_o by_o the_o church_n take_v to_o be_v a_o precedent_n for_o ordinary_a officer_n act_v the_o same_o thing_n now_o forasmuch_o as_o ordination_n be_v allow_v by_o our_o brethren_n to_o be_v one_o of_o those_o new_a testament_n practise_v yet_o to_o be_v continue_v by_o virtue_n of_o these_o instance_n etc._n etc._n it_o follow_v that_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n therein_o though_o they_o be_v extraordinary_a officer_n be_v a_o precedent_n for_o we_o only_o here_o be_v the_o difference_n wherein_o i_o be_o willing_a any_o indifferent_a man_n shall_v be_v umpire_n whether_o it_o be_v a_o precedent_n for_o the_o people_n ordain_v who_o though_o in_o thing_n belong_v to_o they_o they_o do_v act_v distinct_o from_o and_o concurrent_o with_o the_o apostle_n as_o in_o the_o business_n of_o election_n yet_o never_o do_v we_o find_v they_o ordain_v or_o join_v with_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o work_n of_o ordination_n or_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o rather_o a_o precedent_n for_o minister_n ordain_v who_o be_v the_o undoubted_a successor_n of_o the_o apostel_n and_o who_o do_v act_n with_o they_o in_o such_o work_n 4._o and_o last_o for_o that_o 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o how_o faint_o and_o impertinent_o do_v they_o speak_v what_o if_o you_o meet_v with_o nothing_o that_o convince_v you_o that_o this_o be_v a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n sure_o i_o be_o you_o meet_v with_o nothing_o that_o convince_v you_o they_o be_v extraordinary_a and_o it_o be_v a_o great_a deal_n more_o rational_a for_o we_o to_o think_v they_o be_v ordinary_a person_n of_o who_o we_o read_v nothing_o which_o be_v extraordinary_a then_o to_o fancy_v they_o to_o be_v extraordinary_a of_o which_o we_o have_v no_o evidence_n at_o all_o the_o proof_n lie_v upon_o their_o side_n i_o need_v no_o positive_a proof_n to_o persuade_v i_o to_o take_v a_o man_n for_o a_o ordinary_a person_n he_o be_v just_o presume_v so_o to_o be_v till_o some_o indicia_fw-la or_o discovery_n of_o a_o extraordinary_a state_n break_v forth_o but_o now_o if_o one_o will_v assert_v that_o another_o be_v a_o extraordinary_a person_n he_o must_v have_v positive_a proof_n for_o it_o which_o if_o our_o brethren_n can_v bring_v to_o prove_v this_o presbytery_n to_o be_v extraordinary_a we_o shall_v submit_v to_o they_o but_z till_o then_o they_o must_v not_o take_v it_o ill_o if_o we_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v ordinary_a thus_o much_o for_o their_o first_o and_o principal_a argument_n 2._o they_o argue_v thus_o those_o that_o may_v act_v in_o make_v decree_n in_o a_o synod_n they_o may_v ordain_v but_o believer_n who_o be_v not_o officer_n may_v act_v in_o a_o synod_n etc._n etc._n act_v 15._o 2_o 22_o 23._o i_o answer_v to_o both_o proposition_n 1._o the_o major_n may_v be_v question_v because_o all_o those_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v regulate_v by_o scripture_n now_o if_o we_o have_v scripture_n precept_n or_o example_n for_o the_o one_o i_o e._n for_o act_v in_o a_o synod_n which_o they_o say_v here_o be_v and_o not_o for_o the_o other_o which_o we_o have_v prove_v there_o be_v not_o than_o believer_n may_v do_v the_o one_o and_o not_o the_o other_o 2._o for_o the_o minor_a i_o deny_v that_o the_o brethren_n may_v act_v in_o make_v decree_n in_o a_o synod_n i_o deny_v they_o do_v so_o in_o this_o place_n we_o read_v not_o a_o word_n of_o it_o all_o that_o we_o read_v be_v that_o the_o whole_a church_n consent_v to_o the_o decree_n and_o resolve_v upon_o the_o execution_n of_o they_o which_o they_o may_v do_v though_o they_o neither_o act_v nor_o be_v present_a at_o the_o make_n of_o the_o decree_n even_o as_o thousand_o consent_n to_o act_n of_o parliament_n that_o have_v no_o hand_n in_o the_o make_n of_o they_o and_o if_o our_o brethren_n think_v to_o prove_v this_o they_o must_v bring_v better_a argument_n than_o any_o they_o have_v yet_o bring_v another_o argument_n they_o urge_v be_v this_o that_o ordination_n consist_v in_o such_o act_n be_v may_v be_v do_v by_o the_o people_n the_o people_n may_v fast_o and_o pray_v and_o which_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v most_o doubtful_a they_o may_v impose_v hand_n if_o that_o be_v a_o rite_n still_o to_o continue_v as_o appear_v from_o numb_a 8_o 10._o where_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n lay_v their_o hand_n upon_o the_o levities_n to_o this_o instance_n the_o
assembly_n give_v such_o satisfy_a answer_n that_o i_o wonder_v how_o our_o brethren_n can_v resist_v the_o evidence_n of_o they_o and_o indeed_o their_o reply_v be_v so_o inconsiderable_a that_o i_o count_v it_o but_o lose_a time_n to_o make_v a_o rejoynder_n and_o all_o that_o i_o shall_v desire_v of_o the_o reader_n be_v this_o that_o he_o will_v but_o use_v his_o reason_n and_o lay_v aside_o his_o passion_n and_o prejudice_n and_o compare_v what_o be_v say_v on_o both_o hand_n together_o and_o i_o doubt_v not_o he_o will_v see_v that_o all_o their_o assault_n against_o they_o be_v but_o like_o the_o dashing_n of_o the_o wave_n against_o a_o rock_n whereby_o they_o break_v themselves_o to_o piece_n but_o if_o all_o that_o satisfy_v not_o i_o shall_v add_v two_o answer_n more_o 1._o extraordinary_a instance_n be_v no_o precedent_n for_o ordinary_a case_n this_o be_v apparent_o a_o extraordinary_a case_n the_o levite_n and_o church-officer_n be_v not_o yet_o institute_v and_o to_o 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