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or_o schism_n although_o too_o we_o be_v the_o minor_a part_n who_o withdraw_v and_o against_o the_o determination_n of_o a_o pretend_a general_n council_n and_o i_o believe_v it_o will_v be_v a_o hard_a matter_n to_o prove_v that_o many_o of_o those_o meeting_n which_o be_v now_o common_o call_v conventicle_n want_v any_o of_o the_o essential_a requisite_n to_o a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o do_v not_o think_v themselves_o schismatic_n for_o not_o hold_v actual_a communion_n with_o they_o because_o not_o countenance_v by_o the_o law_n and_o if_o a_o legal_a establishment_n be_v absolute_o necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o true_a christian_a church_n than_o there_o be_v no_o true_a church_n at_o rome_n till_o constantine_n day_n which_o i_o suppose_v you_o will_v judge_v very_o unreasonable_a to_o assert_v quest_n be_v it_o possible_a there_o shall_v be_v unity_n without_o uniformity_n in_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n etc._n etc._n answ_n yes_o there_o be_v unity_n among_o the_o 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without_o remember_v that_o the_o archbishop_n of_o armagh_n and_o bishop_n brownrig_v be_v public_a preacher_n in_o the_o inn_n of_o court_n in_o those_o time_n or_o that_o the_o present_a bishop_n of_o worcester_n then_z bishop_n of_o oxford_n enjoy_v a_o good_a parsonage_n and_o that_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o now_o conformist_n in_o england_n have_v public_a employment_n in_o those_o time_n q._n 10._o whether_o you_o think_v that_o the_o late_a assembly_n of_o divine_n at_o westminster_n whereof_o dr._n reynolds_n dr._n twisse_n mr._n gattaker_n dr._n tuckney_n dr._n arrowsmith_n mr._n herle_n mr._n vine_n mr._n anthony_n burgess_n and_o other_o be_v member_n consist_v of_o person_n of_o so_o inconsiderable_a and_o contemptible_a part_n piety_n or_o learning_n as_o be_v represent_v now_o aday_n and_o whether_o the_o present_a nonconformist_n such_o as_o dr._n owen_n mr._n baxter_n dr._n manton_n dr._n conant_n dr._n bates_n dr._n goodwin_n dr._n dillingham_n etc._n etc._n be_v real_o such_o ignoramuss_n as_o some_o of_o your_o zelots_n will_v have_v the_o world_n imagine_v they_o to_o be_v q._n 11._o whether_o dr._n heylins_n history_n of_o presbytery_n do_v not_o wound_v the_o reformation_n through_o the_o side_n of_o the_o presbyterian_o q._n 12._o whether_o if_o the_o nonconformist_n confession_n in_o their_o prayer_n may_v be_v produce_v in_o evidence_n against_o they_o how_o the_o son_n and_o daughter_n of_o the_o church_n will_v appear_v innocent_a who_o be_v teach_v after_o every_o commandment_n read_v by_o the_o mister_n to_o say_v and_o pray_v lord_n have_v mercy_n upon_o we_o and_o incline_v our_o heart_n to_o keep_v this_o law_n q._n 13._o whether_o if_o his_o majesty_n and_o the_o parliament_n will_v be_v gracious_o please_v to_o leave_v the_o use_n of_o the_o three_o ceremony_n of_o our_o church_n as_o indifferent_a as_o the_o canon_n in_o 1640_o do_v the_o ceremony_n of_o bow_v towards_o the_o east_n or_o altar_n that_o rule_n of_o charity_n may_v not_o be_v still_o observe_v namely_o that_o those_o which_o use_v these_o ceremony_n shall_v not_o despise_v they_o that_o use_v they_o not_o and_o that_o those_o who_o use_v they_o not_o condemn_v not_o those_o that_o use_v they_o q._n 14._o who_o have_v thrive_v most_o and_o prosper_v best_a the_o spaniard_n with_o his_o inquisition_n or_o the_o hollander_n with_o his_o toleration_n and_o now_o have_v desire_v you_o to_o ask_v yourself_o these_o question_n give_v i_o leave_v to_o reflect_v upon_o myself_o too_o and_o to_o consider_v what_o i_o have_v do_v i_o say_v not_o what_o i_o have_v write_v i_o have_v write_v but_o rather_o if_o i_o have_v write_v any_o thing_n which_o shall_v he_o true_o interpret_v seditious_a or_o schismatical_a or_o which_o be_v just_o offensive_a to_o any_o of_o my_o superior_n inferior_n or_o equal_v in_o church_n or_o state_n i_o humble_o beg_v pardon_n and_o conclude_v desire_v you_o and_o all_o my_o brethren_n conformist_n and_o 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