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they_o daily_o with_o their_o good_a counsel_n and_o if_o any_o be_v froward_a or_o contumacious_a what_o course_n be_v further_a to_o be_v take_v with_o they_o the_o follow_a word_n declare_v and_o although_o it_o be_v true_a the_o act_n of_o cast_v such_o out_o of_o the_o church_n be_v attribute_v primary_o to_o the_o teacher_n yet_o who_o dare_v exclude_v those_o former_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o all_o interest_n in_o this_o act_n when_o origen_n himself_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n the_o like_a custom_n they_o have_v about_o offender_n and_o chief_o such_o as_o be_v incorrigible_a but_o this_o great_a corrector_n of_o translation_n can_v let_v we_o pass_v here_o without_o a_o castigation_n for_o translate_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d praepositi_fw-la sunt_fw-la unfaithful_o deceitful_o say_v he_o sir_n it_o will_v have_v become_v you_o to_o spare_v your_o censure_n till_o you_o consider_v better_o if_o you_o have_v but_o look_v in_o your_o lexicon_n you_o may_v have_v find_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v not_o only_a constituor_fw-la but_o praeficior_fw-la and_o between_o praefecti_fw-la and_o praepâ—siti_fw-la certain_o there_o be_v no_o such_o great_a difference_n as_o may_v deserve_v the_o censure_n of_o unfaithfulnesse_n for_o use_v the_o one_o instead_o of_o the_o other_o beside_o turrianus_n translate_v it_o thus_o before_o we_o who_o we_o persuade_v ourselves_o be_v as_o able_a to_o understand_v the_o language_n of_o origen_n as_o our_o critical_a remonstranâ—_n if_o we_o may_v judge_v of_o he_o as_o he_o here_o discover_v himself_o will_v any_o man_n so_o confident_o charge_v unfaithfulnesse_n upon_o the_o translation_n of_o other_o and_o himself_o go_v &_o translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 142._o they_o do_v private_o examine_v such_o as_o be_v bewitch_v with_o paganism_n it_o be_v true_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v incantâ—_n as_o well_o as_o frequent_a admoneo_fw-la to_o 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produce_v in_o this_o cause_n he_o thus_o answer_v first_o he_o can_v double_v our_o file_n and_o produce_v many_o more_o 143._o but_o second_o in_o sadierm_n we_o do_v nothing_o herein_o 144._o but_o abuse_v our_o reader_n for_o all_o the_o place_n be_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o the_o purpose_n in_o hand_n for_o the_o first_o the_o number_n he_o can_v add_v to_o our_o force_n be_v no_o more_o than_o our_o own_o except_o one_o only_a place_n out_o of_o gregory_n turonen_n be_v all_o the_o rest_n be_v urge_v by_o we_o even_o that_o which_o he_o say_v be_v more_o pregnant_a than_o any_o we_o have_v bring_v do_v ever_o poor_a man_n make_v so_o great_a a_o brag_n of_o nothing_o true_o sir_n you_o have_v much_o enrich_v we_o by_o pay_v we_o with_o our_o own_o colne_a only_o here_o we_o be_v behold_v to_o you_o for_o your_o testimony_n of_o the_o pregnancy_n of_o some_o of_o they_o when_o as_o you_o say_v before_o all_o of_o they_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n in_o hand_n it_o seem_v 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