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A05212 A disputation of the Church wherein the old religion is maintained. V.M.C.F.E. Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640?; F. E., fl. 1629. 1629 (1629) STC 15348; ESTC S100251 235,937 466

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manifest_a that_o the_o apostle_n be_v visible_a professor_n of_o the_o faith_n and_o therefore_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o god_n and_o they_o be_v also_o predestinate_a and_o therefore_o member_n of_o the_o predestinate_a church_n the_o same_o man_n therefore_o may_v be_v visible_a and_o predestinate_a the_o same_o church_n may_v be_v visible_a and_o predestinate_a and_o consequent_o visibilitie_n and_o predestination_n divide_v not_o the_o church_n into_o two_o church_n as_o i_o say_v of_o the_o apostle_n and_o martyr_n so_o i_o say_v of_o the_o holy_a doctor_n of_o the_o church_n they_o do_v preach_v and_o teach_v visible_o they_o be_v know_v far_o and_o near_o and_o be_v ptedestinate_a also_o whereby_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o predestinate_a do_v profess_v their_o faith_n the_o same_o faith_n with_o other_o catholic_n with_o other_o in_o their_o communion_n and_o be_v visible_a 103._o thirdlie_o the_o apostolic_a church_n be_v visible_a it_o include_v essential_o public_a person_n as_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n apostolical_a man_n for_o conversion_n of_o nation_n bishop_n pastor_n doctor_n as_o you_o know_v by_o scripture_n now_o these_o public_a person_n be_v manifest_o visible_a pastor_n to_o their_o flock_n bishop_n to_o their_o diocese_n apostle_n and_o apostolical_a man_n to_o the_o nation_n they_o convert_v the_o apostolical_a chutch_n therefore_o be_v visible_a and_o you_o know_v further_o that_o the_o holy_a catholic_a and_o apostolical_a church_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o for_o so_o it_o be_v in_o the_o creed_n i_o believe_v one_o holy_a catholic_a and_o apostolical_a church_n constant_a symb._n constant_a and_o this_o creed_n you_o profess_v that_o you_o believe_v and_o you_o put_v it_o also_o among_o the_o fundamental_n of_o your_o faith_n the_o catholic_a therefore_o and_o holy_a church_n be_v visible_a 104._o fourthlie_o if_o the_o church_n be_v the_o mystical_a body_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o
the_o rest_n again_o out_o of_o all_o the_o world_n say_v he_o peter_n alone_o be_v choose_v who_o be_v constitute_v over_o the_o vocation_n of_o all_o nation_n and_o over_o all_z the_o apostle_n and_o over_o all_o the_o father_n of_o the_o church_n that_o all_o though_o among_o god_n people_n there_o be_v many_o priest_n and_o many_o pastor_n yet_o peter_n proper_o govern_v they_o all_o who_o principal_o christ_n do_v also_o govern_v summo_fw-la ep._n 89._o apostolorun_n summo_fw-la and_o he_o say_v further_a of_o the_o pastoral_n office_n that_o our_o lord_n will_v have_v the_o sacrament_n of_o this_o function_n so_o to_o appertain_v to_o the_o office_n of_o all_o the_o apostle_n that_o he_o place_v it_o principal_o in_o bless_a peter_n the_o chief_a of_o all_o the_o apostle_n that_o from_o he_o as_o from_o a_o certain_a head_n he_o may_v diffuse_v his_o gift_n into_o the_o whole_a body_n 4._o you_o object_n that_o leo_n can_v not_o prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o he_o say_v but_o i_o demand_v then_o why_o do_v you_o allege_v his_o authority_n if_o you_o will_v not_o stand_v to_o it_o yourself_o i_o demand_v second_o which_o of_o all_o the_o father_n after_o he_o do_v note_v this_o doctrine_n in_o he_o a_o erroneous_a or_o not_o currant_n he_o be_v a_o great_a scholar_n and_o a_o saint_n and_o in_o the_o communion_n of_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n in_o his_o tyme._n yet_o to_o give_v you_o further_a content_n i_o will_v put_v down_o the_o scripture_n whereon_o the_o doctrine_n of_o s._n leo_n s._n hieron_n and_o the_o rest_n be_v ground_v there_o be_v two_o chief_a place_n the_o first_o be_v in_o the_o 16._o of_o s._n matth._n and_o jesus_n answer_v say_v bless_v be_v thou_o simon_n bar_n jona_n etc._n etc._n and_o i_o say_v to_o thou_o thou_o be_v peter_n and_o upon_o this_o rock_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n or_o thus_o i_o say_v to_o thou_o simon_n thou_o be_v cephas_n and_o upon_o this_o cephas_n which_o thou_o be_v i_o will_v build_v my_o church_n here_o the_o demonstrative_a this_o do_v point_n at_o the_o thing_n whereupon_o the_o church_n be_v build_v upon_o this_o cephas_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n and_o simon_n be_v this_o thing_n thou_o simon_n art_n cephas_n and_o upon_o this_o i_o build_v this_o sense_n you_o can_v exclude_v without_o contradict_v the_o word_n of_o jesus_n christ_n now_o therefore_o if_o you_o ask_v the_o scripture_n who_o be_v luther_n be_v deus_fw-la unus_fw-la est_fw-la &_o ecclesia_fw-la una_fw-la &_o cathedra_fw-la una_fw-la super_fw-la petrum_n domini_fw-la voce_fw-la fundata_fw-la s._n cyprian_n ep_v 40._o petrus_n super_fw-la qvem_fw-la adificata_fw-la ab_fw-la eodem_fw-la domino_fw-la fuerat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la unus_fw-la pro_fw-la omnibus_fw-la loquens_fw-la etc._n etc._n id._n ep._n 55._o sicut_fw-la ipse_fw-la lumen_fw-la apostolis_n donanie_fw-la ut_fw-la lumen_fw-la mundi_fw-la appellarentur_fw-la caeteraque_fw-la ex_fw-la domino_fw-la sortiti_fw-la sunt_fw-la vocabula_fw-la ita_fw-la &_o simoni_n qui_fw-la credebat_fw-la in_o petram_fw-la christum_fw-la petri_n largitus_fw-la est_fw-la nomen_fw-la &_o secundum_fw-la metaphoram_fw-la petrae_fw-la rectè_fw-la dieitur_fw-la ei_fw-la adificabo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la meam_fw-la super_fw-la te_fw-la s._n hieron_n in_o cap._n 16._o matth._n ego_fw-la nullum_fw-la primum_fw-la nisi_fw-la christum_fw-la sequens_fw-la beatitudini_fw-la tuus_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la cathedrae_fw-la petri_n communione_fw-la consocior_fw-la super_fw-la illam_fw-la petram_fw-la adificatam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la scio_fw-la id._n ep._n 57_o ad_fw-la damasum_fw-la dominus_fw-la constituit_fw-la petrum_n primum_fw-la pastolorum_fw-mi petram_fw-la firmam_fw-la super_fw-la qvam_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la adificata_fw-la est_fw-la &c_n &c_n porte_fw-fr inferorum_fw-la non_fw-la valebunt_fw-la adversus_fw-la eam_fw-la porte_fw-fr inferorum_fw-la sunt_fw-la haereses_fw-la &_o haeresiarihae_fw-la iuxta_fw-la omnem_fw-la enim_fw-la modum_fw-la in_o ipso_fw-la firmata_fw-la est_fw-la fides_fw-la s._n epiphan_n in_o ancorato_n hic_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la audivit_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la pasce_fw-la agnos_fw-la meos_fw-la cvi_o concreditum_fw-la est_fw-la ovile_n ibid._n petrus_n qui_fw-la paulo_fw-la ante_fw-la eum_fw-la confessus_fw-la erat_fw-la filium_fw-la dei_fw-la &_o in_o illa_fw-la confession_n appellatus_n erat_fw-la petra_n super_fw-la qvam_fw-la fabricaretur_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la paulo_fw-la post_fw-la domino_fw-la dicente_fw-la etc._n etc._n s._n aug._n enar._n ps_n 69._o vide_fw-la eundem_fw-la li._n 2_o de_fw-fr bap._n cont_n donat._n c._n 1._o intuitus_fw-la eum_fw-la jesus_n dixit_fw-la tu_fw-la es_fw-la simon_n filius_fw-la jona_n tu_fw-la vocaberis_fw-la cephas_n quod_fw-la interpretatur_fw-la petrus_n etc._n etc._n vocabulo_fw-la commode_v significans_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la tanquam_fw-la in_o petra_n lapideque_fw-la firmissimo_fw-la svam_fw-la esse_fw-la adificaturus_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la s._n cyr._n alex._n l._n 2._o in_o io._n c._n 12._o vide_fw-la l._n 12._o c._n 64._o ego_fw-la dico_fw-la tibi_fw-la inquit_fw-la tu_fw-la es_fw-la petrus_n &_o ego_fw-la super_fw-la te_fw-la aedificabo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la meam_fw-la ego_fw-la tibi_fw-la dabo_fw-la clave_n regni_fw-la calorum_fw-la s._n chrysost_o hom_n 55._o in_o matth._n vnus_fw-la de_fw-la toto_fw-la mundo_fw-la eligitur_fw-la petrus_n qui_fw-la &_o universarum_fw-la gentium_fw-la vocationi_fw-la &_o omnibus_fw-la apostolis_n cunctisque_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la patribus_fw-la praeponatur_fw-la ut_fw-la quamuis_fw-la in_o populo_fw-la dei_fw-la multi_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la sint_fw-la multique_fw-la pastor_n omnes_fw-la tamen_fw-la proprie_fw-la regat_fw-la petrus_n quos_fw-la principaliter_fw-la regit_fw-la &_o christus_fw-la s._n leo_n serm_v 3._o de_fw-fr annivers_n assumpt_n tu_fw-la quoque_fw-la petra_fw-la es_fw-la quia_fw-la mea_fw-la virtute_fw-la solidaris_fw-la ut_fw-la quae_fw-la mihi_fw-la potestate_fw-la sint_fw-la propria_fw-la sint_fw-la tibi_fw-la mecum_fw-la participatione_fw-la communia_fw-la ibid._n cunctis_fw-la euangelium_fw-la scientibus_fw-la liquet_fw-la quod_fw-la voce_fw-la dominica_n sancto_fw-la &_o omnium_fw-la apostolorum_n petro_n principi_fw-la apostolo_n totius_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la cura_fw-la commissa_fw-la est_fw-la ipsi_fw-la quip_n dicitur_fw-la pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la meas_fw-la confirma_fw-la fratres_fw-la tuos_fw-la tu_fw-la es_fw-la petrus_n &_o super_fw-la hanc_fw-la petram_fw-la aedificabo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la meam_fw-la tibi_fw-la dabo_fw-la clave_n etc._n etc._n s._n gregor_n magn●_n 4_o ep._n 32._o ad_fw-la mauritium_n august_n cura_fw-la ei_fw-la totius_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la &_o principatus_n committitur_fw-la ibid._n have_v not_o these_o saint_n as_o good_a eye_n as_o luther_n the_o thing_n in_o this_o place_n upon_o which_o the_o church_n be_v build_v it_o do_v answer_v that_o it_o be_v peter_n here_o call_v cephas_n moreover_o if_o you_o ask_v the_o father_n 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one_o in_o all_o be_v build_v on_o he_o or_o if_o they_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o jesus_n christ_n as_o part_n in_o the_o whole_a thereon_o if_o the_o whole_a be_v build_v upon_o a_o foundation_n each_o part_n in_o that_o whole_a be_v build_v thereon_o this_o church_n this_o whole_a be_v build_v on_o peter_n on_o this_o rock_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n they_o be_v contain_v therein_o that_o be_v be_v part_n of_o the_o whole_a thing_n build_v on_o peter_n be_v also_o build_v on_o peter_n and_o so_o peter_n be_v their_o foundation_n and_o their_o head_n subordinate_a unto_o christ_n the_o chief_a head_n and_o main_a foundation_n of_o they_o all_o you_o can_v avoid_v this_o discourse_n because_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o infidel_n or_o heretic_n and_o therefore_o either_o they_o be_v the_o church_n or_o they_o be_v in_o the_o church_n the_o second_o place_n be_v that_o in_o the_o gospel_n of_o saint_n john_n peter_n feed_v my_o sheep_n by_o which_o word_n saint_n peter_n peculiarlie_o be_v make_v pastor_n of_o the_o sheep_n of_o christ_n pap_n vide_fw-la s._n bern._n l._n 2._o de_fw-la con_fw-la ad_fw-la eug._n pap_n hence_o i_o argue_v thus_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v our_o saviour_n sheep_n therefore_o saint_n peter_n be_v their_o pastor_n for_o our_o saviour_n make_v he_o pastor_n of_o his_o sheep_n if_o you_o say_v they_o be_v not_o our_o saviour_n sheep_n than_o they_o be_v not_o his_o disciple_n he_o be_v not_o
their_o pastor_n he_o redeem_v they_o not_o for_o he_o give_v his_o life_n for_o his_o sheep_n if_o they_o be_v our_o saviour_n sheep_n they_o be_v also_o commend_v to_o saint_n peter_n 10._o 10._o 10._o for_o our_o saviour_n make_v he_o pastor_n of_o his_o sheep_n without_o except_v any_o tr_fw-la by_o this_o you_o may_v understand_v a_o place_n of_o s._n augustine_n object_v some_o time_n si_fw-mi hoc_fw-la petro_n tantum_fw-la etc._n etc._n tract_n 50._o in_o joan_n cvius_fw-la eccesiae_n petrus_n apostolus_fw-la propter_fw-la apostolatus_fw-la svi_fw-la primatum_fw-la gerebat_fw-la figurata_fw-la generalitate_fw-la personam_fw-la idem_fw-la aug._n in_o io._n tr_fw-la 6._o your_o exception_n here_o be_v that_o what_o be_v speak_v to_o peter_n be_v speak_v to_o all_o and_o that_o peter_n do_v represent_v the_o church_n when_o he_o take_v authority_n from_o jesus_n christ_n answer_n if_o you_o mean_v it_o be_v in_o proportion_n and_o secondarilie_o speak_v to_o all_o the_o rest_n 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