allege_v for_o the_o warrant_n of_o this_o combination_n of_o church_n in_o synod_n for_o their_o mutual_a help_n they_o be_v all_o of_o they_o such_o as_o do_v equal_o yea_o and_o primary_o concern_v the_o communion_n and_o society_n of_o several_a person_n and_o member_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n where_o it_o be_v confess_v by_o our_o opposite_n that_o there_o be_v jurisdiction_n as_o well_o as_o counsel_v if_o these_o place_n will_v have_v remove_v jurisdiction_n from_o synod_n and_o condemn_v the_o subjection_n of_o church_n unto_o a_o synod_n then_o will_v they_o also_o have_v do_v the_o like_a for_o particular_a church_n and_o have_v condemn_v the_o subjection_n of_o member_n thereunto_o see_v they_o do_v not_o the_o one_o therefore_o not_o the_o other_o also_o ii_o in_o prosecute_v his_o 2_o argument_n 330.331_o argument_n p._n 330.331_o take_v from_o the_o form_n of_o combination_n which_o be_v consociation_n consist_v in_o a_o mutual_a obligation_n he_o confirm_v it_o 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say_v 355._o say_v polit._n eccl._n l._n 3._o c._n 24._o p._n 355._o this_o proceed_n from_o a_o eldership_n to_o a_o classis_fw-la from_o a_o classis_fw-la to_o a_o synod_n be_v found_v in_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n matt._n 18.17_o by_o proportion_n on_o this_o manner_n he_o command_v that_o from_o the_o admonition_n of_o one_o be_v despise_v man_n proceed_v unto_o the_o admonition_n of_o two_o or_o three_o if_o that_o be_v contemn_v unto_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o eldership_n if_o that_o be_v despise_v unto_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n therefore_o why_o not_o from_o one_o whole_a church_n unto_o many_o in_o a_o classis_fw-la &_o again_o from_o many_o in_o a_o classis_fw-la unto_o yet_o more_o in_o a_o synod_n and_o have_v lay_v this_o just_a foundation_n he_o reprove_v the_o opposite_n further_o from_o the_o confession_n of_o some_o of_o they_o contradict_v the_o other_o ibidem_fw-la other_o ibidem_fw-la both_o sutlive_n &_o downam_n do_v interpret_v the_o 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church_n of_o antioch_n but_o come_v from_o judaea_n and_o from_o they_o of_o jerusalem_n act._n 15.1_o 24._o and_o therefore_o that_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n have_v more_o right_a and_o authority_n to_o judge_v of_o they_o than_o they_o of_o antioch_n have_v 111._o whereas_o he_o will_v have_v it_o to_o be_v well_o observe_v that_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n send_v to_o they_o of_o jerusalem_n not_o as_o be_v a_o dependent_a body_n stand_v under_o another_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o the_o right_a and_o well_o observe_v hereof_o stand_v in_o this_o that_o we_o acknowledge_v particular_a church_n to_o be_v dependent_a body_n not_o by_o way_n of_o subjection_n unto_o any_o one_o suppose_a to_o have_v more_o authority_n than_o the_o rest_n but_o so_o dependent_a that_o every_o one_o be_v equal_o and_o mutual_o subject_a to_o one_o another_o as_o occasion_n require_v the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n of_o antioch_n of_o samaria_n and_o other_o be_v all_o of_o 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of_o presbyter_n that_o be_v of_o minister_n and_o elder_n and_o of_o their_o government_n he_o say_v 67._o say_v ibid._n p._n 67._o there_o be_v nothing_o find_v belong_v to_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n in_o foro_fw-la externo_fw-la but_o the_o scripture_n do_v asscribe_v it_o to_o they_o power_n of_o suffrage_n in_o council_n act._n 15._o power_n of_o excommunication_n which_o be_v manifest_a to_o have_v be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n etc._n etc._n while_o he_o allege_v act._n 15._o for_o a_o evidence_n of_o the_o presbyter_n power_n in_o synod_n or_o counsel_n he_o do_v hereby_o acknowledge_v that_o in_o synod_n there_o be_v a_o lawful_a exercise_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o that_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o only_o for_o counsel_n and_o advise_v to_o like_o purpose_n he_o say_v afterward_o again_o 82._o again_o p._n 82._o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o offer_v alone_o to_o determine_v the_o question_n act._n 15._o but_o have_v 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part_n deny_v the_o authority_n of_o particular_a eldership_n as_o we_o see_v in_o the_o brownist_n and_o therefore_o after_o private_a admonition_n do_v in_o a_o popular_a order_n refer_v the_o judgement_n even_o of_o lesser_a matter_n unto_o the_o public_a examination_n and_o decision_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n assemble_v together_o not_o permit_v the_o same_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o eldership_n mr_n baynes_n do_v also_o impugn_v this_o practice_n for_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o rule_n of_o discipline_n matt._n 18._o where_o christ_n do_v manifest_o suppose_v the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n to_o be_v in_o many_o yet_o after_o some_o other_o observation_n touch_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o word_n church_n he_o further_o explain_v himself_o when_o he_o add_v these_o note_n and_o say_v 80._o say_v diocese_n trial_n p._n 80._o three_o as_o christ_n do_v speak_v it_o of_o any_o ordinary_a particular_a church_n indistinct_o so_o he_o do_v by_o the_o name_n of_o church_n not_o understand_v essential_o all_o the_o congregation_n for_o then_o christ_n shall_v give_v not_o some_o but_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v governor_n of_o it_o four_o christ_n speak_v it_o of_o such_o a_o church_n to_o who_o we_o may_v ordinary_o and_o orderly_o complain_v now_o this_o we_o can_v to_o the_o whole_a multitude_n five_o this_o church_n he_o speak_v of_o he_o do_v presuppose_v it_o as_o the_o ordinary_a executioner_n of_o all_o discipline_n and_o censure_n but_o the_o multitude_n have_v not_o this_o execution_n ordinary_a as_o all_o but_o morellius_n and_o such_o democraticall_a spirit_n do_v affirm_v and_o the_o reason_n ratify_v the_o sentence_n of_o the_o church_n do_v show_v that_o often_o the_o number_n of_o it_o be_v but_o small_a for_o where_o two_o or_o three_o be_v gather_v together_o in_o my_o name_n etc._n etc._n whereas_o the_o church_n or_o congregation_n essential_o take_v for_o teacher_n and_o people_n be_v incomparable_o great_a again_o 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church_n of_o one_o particular_a congregation_n as_o before_o from_o act._n 15._o he_o acknowledge_v a_o representative_a church_n in_o the_o synod_n for_o many_o church_n vi_o whereas_o mr_n dau._n allege_v out_o of_o mr_n parker_n that_o the_o power_n ecclesiastical_a do_v the_o essential_o and_o primary_o reside_v in_o the_o church_n itself_o as_o in_o its_o proper_a subject_n although_o this_o be_v no_o ground_n for_o the_o refutation_n of_o that_o power_n and_o jurisdiction_n belong_v to_o synod_n as_o i_o have_v show_v 89.90_o show_v p._n 89.90_o before_o yet_o even_o this_o ground_n also_o be_v deny_v by_o mr_n baynes_n who_o go_v not_o so_o far_o as_o mr_n parker_n etc._n parker_n pol._n ecc._n l._n 3._o c._n 8._o p._n 28._o etc._n etc._n touch_v the_o derivation_n of_o all_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n from_o a_o particular_a church_n as_o from_o the_o fountain_n but_o do_v in_o some_o part_n oppose_v that_o opinion_n especial_o in_o respect_n of_o that_o influence_n of_o authority_n per_fw-la intuitum_fw-la viz._n that_o which_o be_v in_o minister_n call_v immediate_o of_o christ_n as_o the_o apostle_n be_v yet_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o end_n and_o the_o whole_a be_v say_v to_o be_v from_o the_o church_n mediate_o etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o though_o mr_n parker_n be_v far_o from_o the_o opinion_n of_o mr_n dau._n yet_o be_v mr_n baynes_n far_o further_o from_o it_o his_o judgement_n herein_o as_o be_v worthy_a the_o consideration_n of_o the_o reader_n i_o have_v thought_n meet_v to_o set_v down_o the_o more_o full_o and_o first_o speak_v by_o occasion_n of_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o church_n he_o say_v 69._o say_v dioc._n trial_n p._n 69._o christ_n have_v commit_v it_o originaliter_fw-la &_o exercitative_a to_o the_o representative_a church_n that_o they_o may_v aristocratical_o administer_v it_o and_o afterward_o come_v to_o entreat_v of_o the_o three_o main_a question_n in_o his_o book_n 98._o book_n ibid._n p._n 98._o whether_o christ_n do_v immediate_o commit_v ordinary_a power_n ecclesiastical_a and_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o to_o any_o one_o singular_a person_n or_o to_o a_o unite_a multitude_n of_o presbyter_n he_o there_o set_v down_o his_o judgement_n more_o large_o in_o divers_a conclusion_n 83.84_o conclusion_n p._n 83.84_o on_o this_o manner_n conclus_fw-la 3._o ordinary_a power_n with_o the_o execution_n thereof_o be_v not_o give_v to_o the_o community_n of_o the_o church_n or_o to_o the_o whole_a multitude_n of_o the_o faithful_a so_o that_o they_o be_v the_o immediate_a and_o first_o receptacle_n receive_v it_o from_o christ_n and_o virtual_o derive_v it_o to_o other_o this_o i_o set_v down_o against_o the_o divine_n of_o constance_n our_o prime_a divine_n as_o luther_n and_o melancthon_n and_o the_o sorbonist_n who_o do_v maintain_v it_o at_o this_o day_n yea_o this_o seem_v to_o have_v be_v tertullia_n error_n for_o in_o his_o book_n depudicitia_fw-la he_o make_v christ_n to_o have_v 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regal_a authority_n to_o assemble_v or_o to_o ratify_v they_o they_o think_v that_o by_o divine_a or_o apostolical_a ordinance_n their_o decree_n or_o canon_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v impose_v on_o any_o church_n without_o their_o particular_a and_o free_a consent_n it_o be_v here_o to_o be_v observe_v how_o he_o note_v only_a what_o they_o think_v without_o approbation_n thereof_o he_o declare_v their_o opinion_n but_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v it_o to_o be_v his_o own_o judgement_n neither_o have_v he_o reason_n so_o to_o judge_v for_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n when_o there_o be_v no_o christian_a magistrate_n there_o be_v then_o a_o lawful_a use_n of_o synod_n and_o that_o by_o divine_a and_o apostolical_a ordinance_n as_o have_v be_v show_v before_o and_o as_o for_o particular_a consent_n if_o any_o church_n walk_v disorderly_a and_o offensive_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n to_o think_v that_o the_o censure_n and_o decree_n of_o synod_n against_o such_o church_n shall_v be_v 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warrant_n of_o this_o practice_n of_o church_n answer_v 12._o answer_v t.c._n 2._o rep._n p_o 231._o rom._n 12._o 1._o cor._n 12._o the_o scripture_n i_o prove_v it_o by_o be_v that_o st_n paul_n when_o he_o teach_v that_o all_o the_o faithful_a be_v member_n of_o one_o mystical_a body_n of_o christ_n which_o ought_v to_o have_v a_o mutual_a care_n one_o of_o another_o lay_v the_o foundation_n of_o this_o polity_n for_o as_o in_o the_o body_n of_o one_o particular_a church_n every_o faithful_a man_n compare_v with_o another_o in_o the_o same_o be_v a_o member_n one_o of_o another_o so_o in_o a_o more_o general_a body_n of_o a_o whole_a realm_n every_o particular_a church_n compare_v with_o other_o be_v likewise_o a_o member_n of_o they_o therefore_o as_o nature_n teach_v my_o hand_n to_o help_v the_o disorder_n which_o be_v in_o another_o part_n of_o my_o body_n so_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n out_o of_o his_o word_n through_o a_o fellow-feeling_n teach_v one_o church_n to_o stretch_v out_o her_o hand_n to_o put_v away_o as_o it_o can_v the_o evil_a which_o it_o see_v approach_v unto_o another_o 3.13_o rom._n 15.14_o heb._n 3.13_o and_o therefore_o when_o the_o scripture_n will_v that_o one_o shall_v admonish_v another_o it_o be_v not_o only_o a_o commandment_n to_o every_o singular_a man_n towards_o his_o fellow_n but_o also_o to_o one_o whole_a company_n towards_o another_o society_n mr_n parker_n 95.96_o parker_n see_v before_o p._n 95.96_o allege_v the_o same_o ground_n out_o of_o zepperus_n who_o from_o thence_o derive_v the_o authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n in_o censure_v and_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o many_o church_n and_o cit_v many_o such_o place_n of_o scripture_n for_o proof_n thereof_o iii_o when_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n bring_v her_o controversy_n unto_o the_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n there_o be_v no_o change_n of_o government_n they_o have_v this_o right_n from_o the_o first_o though_o then_o especial_o it_o be_v manifest_v unto_o all_o for_o the_o actual_a exercise_n thereof_o upon_o
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every_o one_o of_o they_o distinct_o whole_o entire_o viz._n a_o kingdom_n matt._n 3.2_o a_o family_n eph._n 2.19_o a_o body_n 1._o cor._n 12.20_o a_o queen_n psal_n 45._o etc._n etc._n for_o what_o more_o senseless_a then_o to_o say_v a_o kingdom_n or_o family_n stand_v under_o another_o political_a or_o economical_a government_n out_o of_o themselves_o a_o body_n have_v all_o part_n &_o member_n &_o yet_o may_v neither_o receive_v in_o nor_o put_v out_o without_o another_o leave_n and_o consent_n many_o such_o absurdity_n follow_v mr_n paget_n lately-devised_n tenet_n answ._n i._n that_o which_o seem_v senseless_a and_o absurd_a unto_o the_o transcendent_a understanding_n of_o mr_n can._n and_o w._n be._n be_v not_o withstand_v find_v reasonable_a in_o the_o judgement_n of_o sober_a man_n as_o for_o king_n and_o their_o kingdom_n we_o see_v in_o the_o story_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n that_o the_o three_o king-herods_n and_o the_o four_o king_n agrippa_n both_o they_o and_o 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priest_n say_v to_o make_v he_o pollute_v or_o to_o make_v he_o clean_o leu._n 13.3.6_o etc._n etc._n in_o such_o tibar_fw-la such_o timme_fw-mi tibar_fw-la phrase_n as_o in_o their_o full_a signification_n do_v express_v unto_o we_o the_o judicial_a sentence_n of_o their_o remoovall_n out_o of_o the_o host_n as_o well_o as_o a_o bare_a declaration_n of_o their_o opinion_n in_o the_o matter_n even_o as_o the_o like_a use_n of_o other_o phrase_n in_o the_o scripture_n deut._n 25.1_o prov._n 17.15_o signify_v to_o hirshiagn_n to_o hitsdik_fw-mi hirshiagn_n make_v just_a &_o to_o make_v wicked_a do_v also_o import_v the_o judicial_a sentence_n of_o absolution_n &_o condemnation_n &_o not_o only_o a_o declaration_n of_o the_o judge_n opinion_n thereabouts_o 2._o it_o be_v note_v of_o the_o prieft_n that_o in_o doubtful_a case_n in_o the_o trial_n of_o the_o leprosy_n he_o shall_v shut_v up_o he_o that_o have_v the_o plague_n seven_o dave_n levit._fw-la 13.4_o 5._o now_o as_o he_o have_v 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still_o leave_v unto_o they_o a_o freedom_n to_o choose_v another_o fit_a minister_n they_o do_v not_o in_o this_o case_n go_v about_o to_o choose_v for_o they_o or_o to_o obtrude_v upon_o they_o another_o minister_n against_o their_o will_n but_o only_o exhort_v they_o to_o use_v their_o power_n and_o liberty_n aright_o and_o to_o show_v more_o care_n and_o godly_a wisdom_n in_o seek_v out_o such_o a_o one_o as_o may_v be_v more_o inoffensive_a &_o fit_a for_o the_o edification_n of_o their_o church_n against_o this_o authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n divers_a opposite_n have_v rise_v up_o and_o have_v plead_v for_o a_o new_a kind_n of_o discipline_n contrary_a to_o the_o order_n of_o all_o reform_a church_n and_o contrary_a to_o that_o reformation_n which_o the_o ancient_a nonconformist_n in_o england_n have_v so_o much_o desire_v &_o labour_v for_o and_o yet_o many_o of_o these_o opposite_n do_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n in_o general_a term_n seem_v to_o 94._o to_o mr_n jacob_n in_o his_o auestation_n of_o church-gov_a p._n 118._o &_o 178._o church_n plea._n p._n 94._o embrace_v synod_n and_o great_o to_o approve_v of_o the_o benefit_n that_o come_v by_o they_o but_o herein_o be_v the_o point_n of_o difference_n that_o they_o do_v limit_n &_o confine_v all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n within_o the_o bound_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n though_o they_o acknowledge_v synod_n to_o be_v lawful_a expedient_a and_o necessary_a yet_o this_o they_o hold_v to_o be_v only_o in_o regard_n of_o counsel_n &_o advise_v for_o provocation_n direction_n &_o countenance_n but_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v they_o to_o have_v any_o authority_n to_o give_v sentence_n for_o the_o decision_n of_o cause_n they_o do_v not_o allow_v class_n or_o synod_n to_o use_v any_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n or_o censure_n in_o judge_v the_o controversy_n that_o arise_v in_o particular_a congregation_n they_o maintain_v that_o etc._n that_o church_n plea._n pref_o mr_n dau._n reply_n p._n 229_o etc._n etc._n every_o particular_a congregation_n be_v independent_a not_o stand_v under_o any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o this_o opposition_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n be_v make_v special_o by_o the_o 9_o the_o h._n barrow_n discov_n p._n 190._o 191._o apol._n of_o brown_n pos_fw-la 9_o brownist_n and_o by_o they_o have_v the_o minister_n of_o england_n be_v reproach_v for_o the_o respect_n which_o they_o have_v unto_o synod_n after_o they_o mr_n jacob_n in_o his_o writing_n often_o allow_v they_o for_o counsel_n 33_o counsel_n necess_n of_o reform_v p._n 31_o 32_o 33_o yet_o deny_v the_o power_n &_o authority_n which_o we_o asscribe_v unto_o they_o and_o in_o that_o book_n which_o be_v entitle_v english_a puritanisme_n etc._n puritanisme_n chap._n 2._o art_n 3.6_o etc._n etc._n this_o their_o opinion_n be_v most_o plain_o &_o peremptory_o propound_v and_o now_o also_o mr_n davenp_n though_o he_o 226_o he_o apolog._n repl._n p._n 226_o allow_v a_o combination_n of_o particular_a church_n in_o class_n and_o synod_n and_o such_o a_o consociation_n of_o they_o as_o be_v between_o equal_n and_o be_v by_o way_n of_o counsel_n or_o brotherly_a direction_n yet_o he_o say_v 229._o say_v ibid._n p._n 229._o that_o their_o authority_n be_v not_o a_o prerogative_n of_o jurisdiction_n but_o of_o estimation_n &_o reverence_n rather_o because_o god_n ordinance_n have_v limit_v the_o former_a viz._n jurisdiction_n to_o particular_a church_n as_o his_o delegate_n in_o their_o own_o matter_n &_o it_o be_v not_o in_o their_o power_n to_o alienate_v it_o from_o themselves_o but_o the_o latter_a viz._n estimation_n &_o reverence_n be_v due_a to_o class_n consist_v of_o grave_n learned_a prudent_a and_o faithful_a man_n for_o their_o excellent_a personal_a gift_n in_o which_o respect_n their_o judgement_n be_v to_o be_v much_o value_v &_o receyve_v with_o due_a regard_n but_o if_o any_o do_v asscribe_v unto_o class_n a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n over_o particular_a church_n and_o that_o in_o thing_n which_o he_o call_v proper_a unto_o themselves_o this_o he_o say_v 230._o say_v ibid._n p._n 230._o be_v to_o subject_v particular_a church_n under_o a_o undue_a power_n this_o he_o call_v a_o usurp_a power_n now_o then_o behold_v what_o this_o estimation_n &_o reverence_n be_v which_o mr_n dau._n allow_v to_o classical_a assembly_n or_o synod_n viz._n not_o so_o much_o power_n as_o be_v allow_v to_o any_o one_o man_n though_o it_o be_v the_o most_o ignorant_a and_o offensive_a that_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n for_o when_o a_o controversy_n arise_v about_o the_o election_n of_o a_o minister_n the_o one_o half_a of_o the_o congregation_n give_v voice_n for_o he_o another_o half_a except_v against_o he_o as_o unsound_a in_o doctrine_n &_o unfit_a for_o they_o if_o a_o whole_a classical_a assembly_n of_o minister_n &_o elder_n depute_v from_o all_o the_o church_n round_o about_o do_v also_o except_v against_o he_o as_o unsound_a and_o unfit_a and_o with_o one_o consent_n judge_v that_o he_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v call_v yet_o for_o one_o voice_n of_o that_o one_o ignorant_a person_n whereby_o the_o one_o part_n of_o the_o congregation_n come_v to_o exceed_v the_o other_o in_o number_n be_v that_o unworthy_a one_o to_o be_v receive_v &_o call_v this_o be_v that_o due_a regard_n that_o estimation_n &_o value_n which_o mr_n dau._n afford_v unto_o this_o classis_fw-la consist_v of_o so_o many_o grave_n learned_a prudent_a &_o faithful_a man_n of_o excellent_a personal_a gift_n while_o he_o maintain_v that_o all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v limit_v to_o the_o particular_a church_n and_o all_o the_o counsel_n &_o brotherly_a direction_n of_o the_o classis_fw-la must_v be_v of_o no_o authority_n against_o the_o resolution_n of_o such_o a_o wilful_a company_n to_o censure_v their_o unjust_a proceed_n &_o to_o stay_v the_o same_o so_o again_o 47._o again_o apol._n repl_n p._n 47._o he_o pretend_v mr_n cartwr_n his_o authority_n to_o prove_v that_o other_o church_n have_v no_o power_n of_o hinder_v a_o faulty_a election_n but_o by_o admonition_n which_o power_n every_o christian_a have_v in_o another_o for_o his_o good_a the_o special_a or_o only_a remedy_n which_o the_o opposite_n fly_v unto_o in_o such_o case_n be_v the_o help_n of_o the_o magistrate_n but_o hereby_o the_o importance_n of_o this_o question_n and_o the_o danger_n of_o despise_v synod_n may_v appear_v though_o they_o hold_v that_o christ_n have_v not_o subject_v any_o church_n or_o congregation_n of_o he_o to_o any_o other_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n then_o unto_o that_o which_o be_v within_o itself_o etc._n etc._n yet_o they_o hold_v 3_o hold_v engl._n purit_fw-la cap._n 2._o §_o 6._o &_o 3_o that_o if_o in_o the_o choice_n of_o minister_n any_o particular_a church_n shall_v err_v that_o none_o upon_o the_o earth_n but_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n have_v power_n to_o control_n or_o correct_v the_o same_o for_o it_o etc._n etc._n that_o in_o such_o case_n other_o be_v to_o leave_v their_o soul_n to_o the_o immediate_a judgement_n of_o christ_n and_o their_o body_n to_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n etc._n etc._n but_o this_o help_n &_o remedy_n be_v weak_a &_o insufficient_a &_o that_o many_o way_n for_o i._o the_o church_n of_o christ_n do_v sometime_o remain_v under_o heathenish_a magistrate_n that_o either_o regard_v not_o the_o cause_n of_o the_o church_n &_o refuse_v to_o judge_v their_o controversy_n as_o paul_n &_o gallio_n john_n 18.31_o act._n 18.14_o 15._o or_o else_o seek_v whole_o to_o root_v out_o the_o same_o ii_o the_o church_n be_v sometime_o disperse_v &_o sojourn_v in_o the_o country_n of_o popish_a prince_n and_o magistrate_n as_o the_o church_n which_o at_o this_o day_n live_v under_o the_o cross_n in_o brabant_n &_o flanders_n &_o sundry_a other_o place_n where_o they_o keep_v themselves_o as_o secret_a
no_o new_a rule_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n when_o the_o like_a order_n be_v establish_v for_o go_v first_o unto_o the_o eldership_n and_o seek_v redress_n of_o evil_a by_o they_o mr_n ainsw_n acknowledge_v that_o 451._o that_o ibid._n p._n 451._o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v in_o more_o special_a manner_n give_v unto_o they_o and_o therefore_o in_o special_a manner_n ought_v they_o to_o be_v tell_v and_o speak_v unto_o for_o the_o reformation_n of_o evil_n see_v they_o be_v to_o guide_v and_o go_v before_o the_o people_n as_o in_o other_o affair_n so_o in_o administer_a the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n therefore_o ordinary_o matter_n be_v to_o be_v bring_v unto_o they_o before_o they_o be_v bring_v unto_o the_o whole_a congregation_n 11._o as_o it_o be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n 1._o cor._n 5._o &_o according_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o these_o country_n that_o the_o more_o weighty_a affair_n &_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v not_o be_v administer_v without_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n so_o that_o none_o be_v either_o receive_v for_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n or_o cast_v out_o by_o excommunication_n but_o they_o do_v first_o tell_v the_o church_n even_o the_o whole_a congregation_n be_v solemn_o &_o public_o acquaint_v therewith_o &_o liberty_n grant_v unto_o they_o to_o show_v their_o assent_n or_o dissent_v therein_o so_o mr_n ainsw_n himself_o acknowledge_v that_o there_o be_v a_o like_a order_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n the_o scripture_n which_o he_o allege_v and_o his_o manner_n of_o argue_v from_o they_o do_v import_v so_o much_o of_o israel_n he_o say_v 8._o say_v commun_n of_o s._n c._n 18._o §_o 8._o unto_o all_o &_o every_o of_o the_o israelite_n be_v commend_v the_o care_n &_o observation_n of_o all_o god_n statute_n that_o neither_o all_o nor_o any_o of_o they_o man_n nor_o woman_n nor_o family_n nor_o tribe_n shall_v forsake_v the_o lord_n nor_o suffer_v among_o they_o any_o root_n to_o bring_v forth_o gall_n and_o wormwood_n etc._n etc._n deut._n 29.18_o so_o of_o the_o multitude_n of_o believer_n and_o people_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n he_o write_v in_o like_a manner_n that_o 9_o that_o ibid._n §_o 9_o they_o be_v will_v to_o exhort_v and_o admonish_v each_o other_o even_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n and_o to_o look_v that_o no_o root_n of_o bitterness_n spring_v up_o and_o trouble_v they_o etc._n etc._n heb._n 12.15_o etc._n etc._n again_o he_o say_v 8._o say_v ibid._n c._n 18._o §_o 8._o even_o the_o leprous_a &_o unclean_a though_o the_o trial_n of_o they_o apperteyn_v to_o the_o priest_n leu._n 13._o yet_o all_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n be_v to_o look_v that_o such_o be_v remove_v out_o of_o the_o host_n yea_o the_o care_n of_o the_o priest_n purity_n in_o their_o administration_n apperteyn_v to_o all_o the_o people_n levit._fw-la 21.1_o 8_o 24._o and_o long_o after_o both_o in_o counsel_n &_o in_o the_o redress_v of_o public_a evil_n and_o trespass_n all_o israel_n indifferent_o have_v their_o hand_n and_o presence_n as_o the_o scripture_n show_v 2._o chron._n 30.21_o 23._o ezra_n 10.1_o 9_o 12_o etc._n etc._n then_o present_o he_o parallel_v the_o course_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n with_o this_o suppose_a practice_n in_o the_o old_a save_v the_o church_n in_o the_o apostle_n day_n have_v also_o the_o like_a right_n and_o liberty_n for_o the_o multitude_n of_o believer_n be_v both_o beholder_n and_o actor_n in_o the_o common_a affair_n etc._n etc._n afterward_o again_o speak_v of_o the_o rule_n of_o admonition_n &_o of_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n he_o say_v 449._o say_v ibid._n c._n 22._o §_o 12_o p._n 449._o the_o keep_n of_o which_o rule_n belong_v to_o all_o the_o saint_n as_o the_o commandment_n direct_v of_o old_a to_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n num._n 5.2_o levit._fw-la 19.17_o and_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o all_o the_o brethren_n &_o church_n do_v show_v matt._n 18.15_o 1._o cor._n 5._o and_o thus_o by_o his_o own_o confession_n yea_o even_o according_a to_o his_o own_o opinion_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o church_n power_n and_o the_o people_n right_a there_o be_v no_o new_a rule_n give_v by_o christ_n in_o mat._n 18._o whereas_o it_o be_v object_v that_o the_o jewish_a synedrion_fw-mi 76._o synedrion_fw-mi h._n barr._n resut_o of_o giff._n p._n 76._o by_o the_o institution_n of_o god_n be_v mere_o civil_a etc._n etc._n that_o 21._o that_o d._n bilson_n perpet_n gov_fw-mi ch_n 4._o p._n 21._o moses_n appoint_v neither_o judge_n nor_o elder_n in_o city_n or_o synedrion_n but_o they_o be_v magistrate_n to_o execute_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o law_n &_o have_v the_o sword_n to_o chastise_v the_o body_n and_o punish_v with_o death_n etc._n etc._n the_o error_n of_o this_o assertion_n have_v be_v show_v 35.41_o show_v pag._n 34_o 35.41_o before_o from_o the_o scripture_n deut._n 17._o &_o 2._o chron._n 19_o from_o these_o place_n be_v the_o distinction_n of_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n maintain_v by_o many_o learned_a writer_n as_o 204._o as_o conf._n with_o hart_n c._n 6._o div_o 2._o p._n 203_o 204._o d._n rainolds_n 152.153_o rainolds_n first_o reply_n to_o d._n whitg_n p._n 192._o second_o reply_n latter_a part_n p._n 152.153_o mr_n cartwright_n 490.491_o cartwright_n counterp_v in_o part_n of_o regist_n p._n 490.491_o mr_n fenner_n and_o the_o 522._o the_o ibid._n p._n 522._o defender_n of_o he_o and_o most_o large_o by_o etc._n by_o diss_n de_fw-fr gub._n eccl._n p._n 59_o etc._n etc._n g._n bucerus_n as_o for_o h._n barrow_n he_o sufficient_o resute_v himself_o when_o he_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o priest_n do_v bear_v the_o charge_n and_o have_v the_o decide_n of_o all_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n numb_a 18._o deut._n 17._o this_o they_o can_v not_o do_v without_o judge_v of_o they_o &_o therefore_o it_o appear_v hence_o that_o they_o have_v a_o double_a synedrion_fw-mi one_o ecclesiastical_a the_o other_o civil_a chap._n vi_o the_o three_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n our_o three_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a christian_a church_n after_o the_o ascension_n of_o christ_n from_o which_o we_o reason_n on_o this_o manner_n that_o government_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v commend_v unto_o we_o &_o approve_v by_o the_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o apostolic_a church_n be_v worthy_o to_o be_v embrace_v of_o we_o but_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o synod_n which_o beside_o their_o counsel_n and_o admonition_n do_v also_o with_o authority_n judge_n and_o determine_v the_o weighty_a cause_n and_o affair_n of_o particular_a church_n be_v commend_v unto_o we_o as_o be_v above_o say_v therefore_o etc._n etc._n the_o assumption_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v prove_v i._o by_o that_o holy_a assembly_n or_o synod_n which_o be_v record_v act._n 1_n 15-26_a wherein_o there_o be_v not_o only_o counsel_v give_v but_o also_o a_o exercise_n of_o ecclesiastical_a power_n &_o authority_n and_o that_o in_o such_o a_o business_n as_o be_v of_o great_a and_o rare_a importance_n in_o the_o choice_n of_o a_o new_a apostle_n this_o assembly_n be_v not_o a_o ordinary_a congregation_n or_o particular_a church_n but_o it_o be_v a_o synodical_a assembly_n and_o perform_v such_o a_o work_n as_o do_v not_o belong_v unto_o any_o one_o particular_a church_n this_o appear_v divers_a way_n i._o in_o respect_n of_o the_o person_n of_o who_o this_o assembly_n do_v consist_v and_o these_o again_o of_o two_o sort_n first_o of_o apostle_n who_o be_v such_o person_n as_o be_v not_o tie_v unto_o any_o particular_a church_n but_o have_v a_o universal_a charge_n matt._n 28.19_o rom._n 10.15_o 18._o this_o commission_n be_v unto_o they_o as_o much_o as_o if_o they_o have_v have_v a_o special_a delegation_n from_o many_o or_o all_o church_n so_o that_o their_o presence_n and_o concurrence_n be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v this_o assembly_n in_o some_o measure_n as_o a_o general_a or_o universal_a synod_n these_o eleven_o apostle_n have_v also_o a_o peculiar_a charge_n to_o be_v at_o this_o time_n at_o jerusalem_n the_o place_n of_o this_o assembly_n and_o to_o tarry_v there_o for_o a_o while_n luk._n 24.49_o act._n 1.4_o be_v by_o divine_a direction_n bring_v unto_o this_o synod_n second_o for_o other_o person_n the_o disciple_n that_o be_v present_a at_o this_o assembly_n it_o appear_v they_o be_v from_o divers_a place_n some_o of_o they_o from_o galilee_n as_o the_o brethren_n of_o christ_n there_o mention_v act._n 1.14_o with_o mat._n 13.55_o 56._o &_o how_o many_o of_o they_o be_v inhabitant_n of_o jerusalem_n or_o judaea_n it_o be_v not_o specify_v
as_o appear_v 3._o appear_v act._n synod_n nat._n dordr_n sess_n 4._o art_n 3._o in_o the_o law_n &_o order_n prescribe_v by_o the_o illustrious_a ll._n the_o state_n general_n etc._n etc._n iii_o even_o of_o those_o which_o by_o a_o lawful_a election_n &_o deputation_n be_v send_v unto_o synod_n whether_o they_o be_v minister_n and_o elder_n or_o other_o member_n of_o the_o church_n there_o ought_v to_o be_v a_o limit_a and_o certain_a number_n for_o if_o every_o church_n in_o a_o whole_a nation_n may_v send_v as_o many_o as_o they_o will_v or_o can_v there_o may_v be_v thousand_o and_o ten_o thousand_o gather_v together_o into_o some_o synod_n whereby_o great_a confusion_n and_o disorder_n in_o the_o discuss_n and_o judge_v of_o many_o cause_n will_v apparent_o follow_v d._n whitaker_n say_v 81._o say_v de_fw-fr conc_fw-fr q._n 3._o p._n 81._o certain_o confusion_n can_v be_v avoid_v when_o too_o many_o meet_v together_o and_o as_o for_o that_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n he_o say_v 6._o say_v ibid._n q._n 1._o c._n 6._o that_o assembly_n can_v not_o be_v great_a because_o they_o be_v compass_v about_o with_o the_o priest_n and_o pharisee_n and_o therefore_o also_o in_o the_o practice_n of_o these_o church_n there_o be_v a_o certain_a number_n determine_v of_o such_o as_o be_v to_o be_v send_v unto_o synod_n as_o appear_v likewise_o in_o 3._o in_o act._n synod_n nat._n dordr_n sess_n 4._o art_n 3._o those_o law_n before_o mention_v if_o mr_n can_n will_v allow_v any_o limitation_n of_o number_n and_o can_v therein_o satisfy_v himself_o that_o he_o do_v not_o deprive_v the_o people_n &_o church_n of_o their_o right_n he_o may_v thereby_o also_o satisfy_v himself_o for_o any_o thing_n that_o he_o object_v unto_o we_o in_o this_o behalf_n iv_o we_o do_v further_o grant_v this_o liberty_n even_o unto_o such_o as_o be_v no_o delegate_n or_o deputy_n of_o the_o church_n that_o though_o they_o be_v not_o allow_v for_o judge_n yet_o many_o of_o they_o 9_o they_o inn._n animadv_n in_o bell._n de_fw-fr council_n l._n 1._o c._n 15._o n._n 2.3_o &_o 9_o as_o hearer_n may_v for_o their_o edification_n be_v present_a at_o the_o communication_n &_o conference_n in_o the_o synod_n that_o they_o may_v profit_v in_o godliness_n this_o also_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o these_o church_n both_o in_o provincial_n and_o nationall_n synod_n so_o far_o as_o the_o place_n will_v convenient_o receive_v a_o competent_a number_n and_o so_o also_o it_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o nationall_n synod_n at_o dort_n v._o this_o liberty_n of_o hear_v in_o synod_n be_v so_o moderate_v &_o restrain_v that_o though_o they_o which_o have_v no_o call_n unto_o the_o synod_n may_v hear_v question_n touch_v doctrine_n and_o religion_n discuss_v yet_o such_o be_v not_o allow_v to_o be_v present_a and_o to_o hear_v when_o personal_a matter_n of_o scandal_n and_o offence_n come_v to_o be_v examine_v because_o as_o junius_n say_v 9_o say_v ibid._n c._n 15._o n._n 9_o contra_fw-la charitatem_fw-la fuisset_fw-la nam_fw-la veritatis_fw-la cognitio_fw-la ad_fw-la omnes_fw-la pertinet_fw-la infirmitatum_fw-la minime_fw-la that_o be_v it_o have_v be_v against_o charity_n for_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n belong_v unto_o all_o the_o knowledge_n of_o infirmity_n not_o so_o vi_o touch_v the_o right_a and_o liberty_n of_o synod_n there_o be_v many_o other_o thing_n to_o be_v further_o observe_v when_o mr_n cartwright_n have_v speak_v very_o much_o for_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o people_n in_o synod_n yet_o for_o prevention_n of_o mistake_v and_o by_o way_n of_o correct_v himself_o after_o a_o sort_n he_o say_v 5._o say_v confut._n of_o the_o rhemist_n ann._n on_o act._n 15._o v._o 6._o n._n 5._o yet_o write_v we_o not_o this_o as_o though_o the_o people_n presence_n either_o in_o all_o counsel_n where_o the_o doctrine_n be_v not_o in_o controversy_n be_v omit_v be_v the_o negative_a particle_n add_v there_o seem_v to_o be_v the_o printer_n fault_n be_v concrary_a to_o that_o which_o go_v before_o and_o follow_v after_o make_v no_o good_a sense_n in_o his_o word_n &_o be_v therefore_o to_o be_v omit_v needful_a or_o that_o in_o those_o counsel_n where_o they_o be_v present_a they_o have_v like_o right_a with_o those_o bishop_n and_o elder_n for_o they_o we_o mean_v bishop_n and_o elder_n may_v first_o by_o a_o several_a and_o foreset_v deliberation_n take_v counsel_n whether_o it_o be_v expedient_a to_o propound_v any_o such_o matter_n as_o be_v in_o controversy_n in_o that_o council_n where_o the_o people_n shall_v be_v present_a whereby_o if_o they_o perceive_v any_o general_a and_o obstinate_a opposition_n of_o they_o against_o the_o truth_n they_o may_v hold_v that_o point_n of_o doctrine_n back_o this_o we_o see_v to_o have_v be_v do_v by_o josias_n who_o or_o ever_o he_o assemble_v the_o people_n first_o of_o all_o assemble_v the_o elder_n of_o juda_n and_o jerusalem_n 2._o king_n 23.1_o also_o by_o james_n who_o at_o paul_n arrival_n to_o jerusalem_n first_o assemble_v the_o elder_n to_o debate_n of_o the_o matter_n or_o ever_o he_o be_v present_v before_o the_o church_n act._n 21.18_o 19_o second_o if_o the_o people_n shall_v bewray_v a_o wilful_a stubborness_n against_o the_o truth_n not_o suspect_v by_o they_o yet_o the_o governor_n be_v sound_n without_o who_o there_o can_v nothing_o be_v conclude_v there_o shall_v not_o follow_v any_o prejudice_n of_o the_o counsel_n authority_n against_o the_o truth_n albeit_o the_o number_n of_o the_o people_n assemble_v be_v great_a than_o of_o those_o bishop_n and_o elder_n hereupon_o it_o come_v that_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n be_v after_o call_v the_o decree_n of_o the_o apostle_n &_o elder_n leave_v out_o the_o brethren_n which_o luke_n have_v first_o set_v down_o and_o upon_o the_o same_o ground_n in_o the_o decision_n of_o doubtful_a matter_n moses_n deut._n 17._o command_v that_o they_o shall_v have_v recourse_n unto_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o 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last_o limitation_n other_o church_n do_v concur_v in_o way_n of_o counsel_n and_o declaration_n of_o their_o judgement_n as_o if_o that_o be_v all_o they_o do_v as_o if_o the_o synod_n consist_v of_o those_o church_n do_v not_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n of_o cause_n bring_v unto_o they_o and_o hereby_o it_o may_v withal_o appear_v how_o the_o judgement_n of_o mr_n parker_n do_v agree_v with_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n which_o do_v exercise_v ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n in_o their_o synod_n according_a to_o those_o 4_o limitation_n specify_v by_o he_o there_o be_v no_o matter_n determine_v by_o they_o and_o judge_v in_o their_o synod_n but_o it_o may_v be_v reduce_v to_o one_o of_o these_o 4_o head_n it_o be_v either_o a_o common_a cause_n or_o a_o case_n of_o impotency_n where_o there_o be_v need_n of_o help_n or_o a_o unlawful_a administration_n in_o some_o or_o at_o least_o a_o presumption_n of_o evil_a deal_n i._o dav_n 242._o dav_n apol._n reply_n p._n 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particular_o to_o each_o of_o his_o 6_o argument_n there_o be_v something_o to_o be_v observe_v in_o his_o reason_n in_o every_o one_o of_o they_o that_o may_v show_v unto_o we_o how_o he_o acknowledge_v the_o jurisdiction_n of_o synod_n i._o the_o first_o argument_n 329._o argument_n p._n 329._o take_v from_o the_o ground_n of_o love_n and_o mutual_a help_n be_v that_o which_o he_o say_v be_v prove_v by_o zepperus_n l._n 3._o c._n 7._o mistake_v for_o c._n 8._o who_o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n pag._n 715._o describe_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n in_o the_o exercise_n of_o discipline_n and_o the_o great_a censure_n thereof_o even_o unto_o excommunication_n &_o therefore_o not_o for_o counsel_v only_o again_o all_o those_o place_n of_o scripture_n num._n 32.6_o 17._o eccl._n 4.9_o rom._n 12.13_o phil._n 2.4_o 1._o thes_n 5.11_o 14._o heb._n 10.24_o &_o 13.3_o 1._o cor._n 10.33_o which_o he_o together_o with_o zepperus_n do_v
controversy_n that_o arise_v in_o the_o same_o and_o according_a to_o mr_n parker_n do_v exercise_v a_o lawful_a jurisdiction_n herein_o from_o this_o communication_n of_o church_n he_o come_v to_o speak_v 340._o speak_v ibid._n c._n 23._o p._n 345._o 340._o of_o their_o combination_n from_o whence_o arise_v a_o combine_a church_n derive_v from_o other_o church_n this_o combination_n he_o note_v to_o consist_v either_o of_o two_o or_o more_o church_n a_o instance_n of_o this_o combination_n of_o two_o he_o give_v in_o the_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n act._n 15._o and_o say_v it_o be_v a_o council_n and_o synod_n and_o that_o proper_o and_o that_o of_o two_o church_n to_o wit_n of_o antioch_n and_o jerusalem_n for_o the_o messenger_n send_v from_o antioch_n be_v present_a which_o represent_v the_o church_n of_o antioch_n as_o be_v usual_a in_o counsel_n and_o notwithstanding_o a_o objection_n make_v against_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n yet_o he_o say_v that_o church_n be_v also_o judge_v in_o that_o council_n because_o their_o messenger_n bring_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o same_o with_o they_o hereupon_o he_o reprove_v two_o spirit_n of_o error_n the_o one_o of_o grotius_n who_o 〈◊〉_d say_v to_o reject_v the_o use_n of_o synod_n altogether_o for_o who_o will_v write_v this_o say_v mr_n parâ—…_n 〈◊〉_d be_v that_o be_v bewitch_v with_o error_n see_v the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v always_o hold_v that_o sâ—…_n be_v here_o institute_v of_o god_n to_o endure_v for_o ever_o etc._n etc._n the_o second_o spirit_n of_o error_n will-he_n reprove_v be_v that_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n 347._o hierarchy_n p._n 347._o because_o they_o condemn_v the_o reform_a synod_n as_o if_o they_o be_v degenerate_a quae_fw-la tamen_fw-la ad_fw-la hunc_fw-la typum_fw-la accuratissime_fw-la efformantur_fw-la which_o be_v notwithstanding_o most_o exact_o frame_v according_a to_o this_o pattern_n hence_o it_o appear_v that_o mr_n parker_n hold_v the_o synod_n of_o divine_a institution_n to_o be_v not_o only_o for_o counsel_n and_o admonition_n but_o for_o jurisdiction_n also_o for_o otherwise_o he_o can_v not_o have_v say_v with_o truth_n that_o the_o reform_a synod_n all_o which_o exercise_n jurisdiction_n do_v answer_v exact_o thereunto_o otherwise_o he_o may_v rather_o have_v say_v that_o the_o synod_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n swarve_v from_o the_o primitive_a pattern_n be_v indeed_o adulterare_fw-la and_o degenerate_a usurp_a authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n which_o do_v not_o belong_v unto_o they_o the_o combination_n of_o more_o church_n mr_n par._n describe_v in_o divers_a kind_n or_o degree_n also_o ibiden_v also_o ibiden_v and_o first_o that_o which_o be_v of_o many_o church_n into_o one_o eldership_n the_o reason_n of_o this_o be_v because_o some_o little_a church_n know_v their_o own_o weakness_n do_v join_v themselves_o unto_o the_o neighbour_n church_n and_o so_o make_v but_o one_o eldership_n only_o among_o themselves_o he_o give_v a_o instance_n of_o this_o in_o those_o small_a church_n about_o geneva_n which_o not_o be_v sufficient_a for_o themselves_o do_v join_v themselves_o unto_o the_o church_n in_o the_o next_o city_n so_o that_o they_o come_v together_o weekly_o into_o the_o neighbour-consistory_n of_o the_o city_n this_o combination_n of_o lesser_a church_n into_o one_o eldership_n or_o consistory_n mr_n parker_n approve_v and_o justifyes_n and_o declare_v his_o judgement_n touch_v this_o kind_n of_o consociation_n 1._o he_o say_v it_o be_v ground_v upon_o the_o communion_n of_o church_n and_o derive_v from_o the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o complain_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n that_o do_v so_o virulent_o impugn_v the_o same_o 2._o 348._o 2._o p._n 348._o whereas_o nothing_o be_v more_o object_v against_o the_o reformation_n in_o england_n then_o that_o many_o church_n or_o parish_n be_v unable_a for_o it_o want_v fit_a man_n to_o govern_v and_o to_o exercise_v discipline_n in_o eldership_n mr_n parker_n answer_v hereunto_o if_o it_o be_v so_o let_v they_o join_v themselves_o unto_o the_o next_o eldership_n or_o erect_v a_o common_a eldership_n among_o themselves_o and_o so_o from_o common_a counsel_n and_o help_n let_v they_o seek_v remedy_n for_o their_o weakness_n now_o it_o be_v record_v 167._o record_v calvin_n epist_n 167._o that_o in_o the_o discipline_n at_o geneva_n the_o right_a of_o excommunication_n be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o this_o consistory_n or_o common_a eldership_n and_o hereby_o then_o it_o appear_v that_o all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v not_o limit_v unto_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o and_o that_o mr_n parker_n allow_v of_o this_o government_n at_o geneva_n be_v not_o against_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o many_o church_n over_o one_o again_o whereas_o d._n bancroft_n and_o d._n field_n object_n that_o the_o church_n at_o geneva_n and_o the_o village_n of_o the_o netherlands_o have_v not_o the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n and_o whereas_o my_o opposite_n complain_v that_o church_n be_v bring_v into_o bondage_n and_o loose_v their_o liberty_n when_o they_o may_v not_o excommunicate_v without_o the_o consent_n of_o other_o mr_n parker_n answer_n be_v 349._o be_v p._n 349._o that_o the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n ordination_n and_o other_o jurisdiction_n remain_v pure_a in_o they_o save_v that_o communion_n which_o ought_v to_o be_v among_o church_n every_o church_n in_o great_a matter_n use_v the_o consent_n and_o counsel_n of_o her_o neighbour_n as_o of_o the_o classis_fw-la or_o eldership_n in_o the_o city_n quod_fw-la ego_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la vel_fw-la perfectissimis_fw-la non_fw-la indigâ—um_fw-la reor_fw-la which_o i_o judge_v say_v he_o not_o to_o be_v unmeet_a even_o for_o the_o most_o perfect_a church_n thus_o he_o require_v not_o only_a counsel_n but_o consent_n of_o other_o church_n in_o weighty_a matter_n which_o be_v that_o we_o stand_v for_o this_o do_v not_o as_o he_o say_v 390._o say_v p._n 390._o import_v any_o hierarchicall_a subjection_n in_o the_o parish_n at_o geneva_n unless_o happy_o any_o can_v be_v subject_v unto_o himself_o for_o these_o parish_n each_o for_o their_o part_n and_o that_o equal_o be_v this_o very_a eldership_n what_o subjection_n be_v it_o where_o all_o as_o well_o city-churche_n as_o the_o country-churche_n be_v equal_a for_o the_o country-churche_n be_v no_o more_o subject_a unto_o this_o eldership_n then_o be_v the_o city-churche_n the_o next_o combination_n of_o many_o church_n which_o mr_n parker_n speak_v of_o etc._n of_o ibid._n c._n 24._o p._n 353._o etc._n etc._n be_v when_o they_o be_v unite_v into_o one_o classis_fw-la and_o of_o these_o he_o give_v instance_n in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o netherlands_o and_o in_o scotland_n where_o the_o 52_o presbytery_n so_o call_v by_o they_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o so_o many_o class_n for_o the_o warrant_n of_o these_o he_o bring_v both_o divers_a ground_n of_o holy_a scripture_n and_o the_o example_n of_o antiquity_n he_o there_o answer_v 10_o objection_n make_v by_o the_o hierarchy_n against_o these_o class_n and_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o he_o do_v not_o simple_o speak_v of_o class_n in_o general_a but_o of_o these_o class_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o these_o country_n of_o our_o class_n as_o he_o use_v to_o call_v they_o not_o only_o for_o that_o he_o approve_v they_o but_o because_o together_o with_o we_o he_o be_v a_o member_n of_o this_o communion_n and_o live_v under_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o classis_fw-la with_o we_o if_o he_o have_v not_o allow_v their_o jurisdiction_n which_o he_o know_v and_o see_v to_o be_v exercise_v by_o they_o how_o can_v he_o with_o good_a conscience_n have_v praise_v they_o as_o he_o do_v speak_v of_o the_o ancient_a discipline_n use_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n he_o say_v 357._o say_v p._n 357._o omnia_fw-la his_fw-la in_o politeia_fw-la nostra_fw-la &_o in_fw-la classibus_fw-la nostris_fw-la similia_fw-la o_o quantum_fw-la peccat_fw-la hierarchia_fw-la quae_fw-la hanc_fw-la suavissimam_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la combinationem_fw-la eliminavit_fw-la that_o be_v all_o thing_n in_o our_o government_n and_o in_o our_o class_n be_v like_a unto_o these_o o_o how_o much_o do_v the_o hierarchy_n offend_v which_o have_v banish_v this_o most_o sweet_a combination_n of_o church_n and_o as_o well_o may_v we_o cry_v out_o o_o how_o much_o do_v the_o author_n of_o the_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n offend_v who_o likewise_o seek_v to_o banish_v and_o overthrow_v this_o combination_n of_o church_n in_o class_n while_o they_o allow_v they_o only_o for_o counsel_n and_o regard_v not_o their_o consent_n but_o allow_v the_o church_n in_o combination_n to_o proceed_v in_o the_o weighty_a affair_n without_o or_o against_o the_o consent_n of_o class_n whereas_o it_o be_v object_v not_o only_o by_o my_o opposite_n but_o by_o some_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n themselves_o that_o these_o class_n do_v take_v unto_o themselves_o that_o jurisdiction_n which_o they_o seem_v to_o condemn_v in_o the_o hierarchy_n mr_n parker_n in_o his_o answer_n
voetius_fw-la last_o for_o that_o 29._o that_o case_n consc_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 29._o place_n which_o mr_n can_v object_v out_o of_o d._n ames_n i_o acknowledge_v that_o there_o be_v something_o more_o find_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n then_o in_o any_o thing_n that_o mr_n dau._n have_v allege_v out_o of_o he_o but_o all_o that_o d._n ames_n there_o write_v be_v not_o easy_o to_o be_v admit_v for_o in_o that_o chap._n the_o question_n be_v make_v 11._o make_v ibid._n qu._n 11._o whether_o whole_a church_n or_o member_n of_o another_o church_n may_v be_v excommunicate_v he_o answer_v they_o can_v proper_o be_v excommunicate_v he_o bring_v 3_o reason_n 1._o because_o every_o church_n have_v communion_n in_o itself_o out_o of_o which_o it_o can_v no_o more_o be_v cast_v than_o out_o of_o itself_o but_o this_o reason_n be_v insufficient_a 1._o because_o though_o every_o church_n have_v communion_n in_o itself_o yet_o not_o only_o in_o itself_o and_o with_o itself_o but_o with_o other_o church_n also_o eph._n 4.4_o 5_o 6._o 1._o cor._n 12.13_o and_o by_o excommunication_n it_o may_v be_v deprive_v and_o cut_v off_o from_o that_o comfortable_a fellowship_n to_o the_o great_a grief_n terror_n and_o shame_n thereof_o for_o their_o humiliation_n thereby_o and_o for_o the_o warn_n of_o other_o 2._o because_o a_o obstinate_a and_o rebellious_a church_n by_o a_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n may_v be_v cast_v out_o of_o itself_o and_o deprive_v of_o communion_n in_o itself_o either_o in_o the_o dissolution_n of_o that_o unlawful_a society_n while_o the_o magistrate_n help_v to_o execute_v the_o sentence_n or_o otherwise_o in_o make_v their_o communion_n abominable_a even_o unto_o their_o own_o conscience_n by_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n work_v with_o his_o own_o ordinance_n in_o deliver_v they_o to_o satan_n for_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n and_o deprive_v they_o of_o inward_a rest_n notwithstanding_o any_o pretend_a security_n of_o the_o obstinate_a his_o 2_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o power_n of_o excommunicate_v flow_v from_o some_o superiority_n but_o all_o church_n be_v constitute_v of_o christ_n with_o a_o authority_n altogether_o equal_a this_o be_v also_o a_o weak_a reason_n for_o 1._o though_o all_o church_n be_v equal_a and_o no_o one_o above_o another_o yet_o many_o meeting_n together_o in_o a_o synod_n be_v superior_a to_o one_o as_o be_v show_v before_o by_o mr_n parker_n 129._o parker_n pol._n eccles_n 3._o p._n 129._o greater_n be_v the_o power_n of_o a_o synod_n then_o of_o any_o one_o prime_a and_o parishional_a church_n 2._o when_o two_o church_n only_o be_v by_o special_a covenant_n unite_v together_o as_o it_o may_v fall_v out_o necessary_o upon_o occasion_n though_o this_o combination_n be_v more_o imperfect_a yet_o be_v this_o 346._o this_o ibid._n p._n 345._o 346._o repute_v for_o a_o synod_n and_o though_o these_o church_n be_v in_o themselves_o equal_a yet_o when_o one_o of_o they_o fall_v into_o error_n &_o offence_n than_o it_o become_v subject_a to_o the_o other_o and_o the_o other_o have_v authority_n over_o it_o to_o rebuke_v &_o censure_v the_o same_o this_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v by_o proportion_n of_o two_o brethren_n member_n of_o one_o church_n though_o both_o of_o they_o be_v in_o their_o estate_n equal_a yet_o he_o that_o offend_v become_v subject_a to_o the_o other_o who_o thereupon_o have_v power_n over_o he_o in_o a_o degree_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v a_o power_n of_o lose_v and_o forgive_a he_o if_o he_o repent_v a_o power_n of_o retain_v his_o sin_n and_o bind_v he_o over_o to_o further_a proceed_v if_o he_o do_v not_o repent_v luk._n 17.3_o 4._o with_o matt._n 18._o on_o this_o manner_n that_o general_a commandment_n of_o mutual_a subjection_n to_o one_o another_o 1._o pet._n 5.5_o ought_v to_o take_v place_n in_o two_o church_n as_o well_o as_o in_o two_o person_n his_o 3_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o member_n of_o one_o church_n be_v neither_o subject_n to_o the_o government_n of_o another_o neither_o do_v they_o belong_v immediate_o unto_o the_o communion_n of_o other_o church_n but_o by_o the_o communion_n of_o their_o own_o church_n come_v betwixt_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o reason_n touch_v subjection_n be_v answer_v before_o and_o for_o the_o second_o part_n of_o it_o there_o be_v no_o weight_n therein_o for_o those_o that_o belong_v unto_o the_o communion_n of_o other_o church_n but_o mediate_o be_v not_o therefore_o exempt_v from_o the_o jurisdiction_n and_o authority_n of_o they_o and_o again_o the_o covenant_n of_o communion_n make_v at_o the_o first_o confederation_n of_o church_n for_o their_o mutual_a government_n by_o a_o synod_n remain_v firm_a for_o the_o continuance_n and_o exercise_n of_o authority_n either_o for_o or_o against_o some_o particular_a member_n of_o any_o one_o church_n in_o that_o combination_n although_o that_o church_n unjust_o violate_v their_o covenant_n shall_v refuse_v to_o consent_v or_o communicate_v with_o the_o synod_n in_o their_o act_n of_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n and_o censure_n of_o some_o scandalous_a person_n among_o they_o moreover_o that_o which_o d._n ames_n write_v in_o the_o same_o chapter_n may_v just_o lead_v we_o to_o acknowledge_v the_o necessity_n of_o synod_n and_o their_o authority_n in_o the_o censure_n of_o offender_n 1._o he_o add_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o same_o question_n touch_v whole_a church_n &_o member_n of_o another_o church_n that_o though_o they_o may_v not_o proper_o be_v excommunicate_v 26._o excommunicate_v case_n con_fw-la l_o 4._o c_o 29._o q._n 11._o the_o 26._o yet_o for_o manifest_a heresy_n or_o great_a fault_n they_o may_v be_v condemn_v forsake_a reject_v which_o be_v proportionable_a to_o excommunication_n if_o he_o grant_v this_o authority_n unto_o synod_n thus_o to_o condemn_v whole_a church_n than_o he_o confess_v that_o they_o have_v more_o power_n then_o only_o to_o counsel_n or_o admonish_v if_o he_o grant_v this_o authority_n unto_o any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a person_n and_o not_o to_o class_n or_o synod_n the_o warrant_n from_o scripture_n ought_v to_o be_v show_v a_o censure_n proportionable_a to_o excommunication_n require_v a_o authority_n proportionable_a to_o they_o that_o may_v excommunicate_v for_o the_o execution_n thereof_o ii_o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n propound_v this_o case_n of_o conscience_n 10._o conscience_n ibid._n q._n 10._o what_o be_v to_o be_v do_v of_o the_o pastor_n where_o a_o fit_a eldership_n be_v want_v or_o where_o the_o people_n do_v not_o consent_v unto_o ajust_a excommunication_n his_o resolution_n be_v the_o solemn_a proceed_n may_v be_v omit_v yet_o a_o good_a pastor_n ought_v to_o give_v all_o diligence_n hereunto_o with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o faithful_a member_n that_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o matter_n be_v so_o far_o preserve_v that_o holy_a thing_n be_v not_o give_v unto_o dog_n &_o swine_n mat._n 7.6_o and_o that_o all_o public_a scandal_n be_v public_o reprooved_a but_o by_o this_o direction_n neither_o be_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o minister_n conscience_n provide_v for_o nor_o yet_o the_o safety_n of_o the_o church_n for_o by_o what_o warrant_n may_v a_o pastor_n by_o his_o sole_a authority_n determine_v and_o reject_v some_o member_n as_o dog_n and_o exclude_v they_o from_o the_o holy_a thing_n from_o the_o sacrament_n and_o this_o not_o only_o without_o allowance_n of_o the_o eldership_n but_o against_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n and_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n or_o the_o great_a part_n of_o it_o this_o be_v in_o effect_n a_o excommunication_n or_o as_o he_o call_v it_o the_o essence_n or_o substance_n of_o the_o matter_n for_o excommunication_n great_a or_o less_o be_v the_o only_a ecclesiastical_a judgement_n appoint_v of_o god_n to_o keep_v holy_a thing_n from_o be_v give_v unto_o dog_n to_o permit_v this_o authority_n unto_o the_o pastor_n alone_o be_v to_o open_v a_o door_n for_o tyranny_n and_o oppression_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v condemn_v by_o those_o 4_o reason_n which_o he_o give_v for_o confirmation_n of_o his_o answer_n unto_o the_o 9_o question_n immediate_o go_v before_o it_o be_v the_o denial_n of_o synod_n that_o drive_v unto_o such_o extremity_n iii_o that_o which_o he_o here_o say_v of_o public_a reprove_v all_o public_a scandal_n be_v again_o empeach_v by_o that_o which_o be_v say_v before_o 13._o before_o ibid._n q._n 4._o the_o 12_o 13._o that_o in_o those_o church_n which_o through_o want_n of_o discipline_n be_v trouble_v with_o confusion_n it_o be_v not_o always_o necessary_a for_o the_o person_n offend_v to_o admonish_v the_o offendor_n because_o he_o shall_v oftentimes_o in_o vain_a begin_v that_o which_o he_o have_v no_o power_n to_o finish_v that_o the_o commandment_n of_o solemn_a admonish_v of_o a_o brother_n offend_v do_v then_o only_o bind_v when_o there_o be_v some_o hope_n that_o the_o same_o will_v
l._n 4_o c._n 25._o q._n 5._o the_o 26._o use_v the_o like_a speech_n have_v express_o mention_v for_o whereas_o their_o word_n touch_v the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o propriety_n thereof_o be_v these_o ut_fw-mi alienae_n fidei_fw-la planè_fw-la committi_fw-la non_fw-la possit_fw-la that_o it_o may_v not_o altogether_o be_v commit_v to_o the_o trust_n of_o other_o he_o omit_v this_o word_n planè_fw-la which_o signifyes_n altogether_o utter_o or_o quite_o and_o clean_o do_v hereby_o corrupt_a the_o testimony_n which_o he_o allege_v for_o though_o the_o church_n may_v not_o utter_o or_o quite_o and_o clean_o commit_v her_o power_n to_o the_o trust_n of_o other_o yet_o in_o some_o kind_n and_o in_o some_o measure_n it_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v do_v for_o the_o kind_n d._n voetius_fw-la give_v instance_n in_o divers_a act_n belong_v to_o the_o call_n of_o a_o minister_n which_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v perform_v by_o some_o certain_a member_n thereof_o and_o the_o 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ibid._n p._n 62._o how_o it_o be_v universal_a may_v be_v do_v either_o in_o a_o universal_a synod_n or_o without_o a_o synod_n speak_v of_o reformation_n make_v by_o instruction_n exhortation_n or_o invitation_n he_o say_v it_o may_v be_v do_v of_o any_o one_o preacher_n yea_o and_o in_o some_o sort_n of_o any_o one_o christian_n but_o for_o the_o reformation_n wherein_o there_o be_v a_o actual_a change_n of_o public_a worship_n he_o say_v it_o be_v necessary_a that_o the_o help_n and_o consent_n of_o many_o and_o those_o not_o of_o one_o order_n do_v concur_v and_o that_o one_o or_o a_o few_o be_v not_o sufficient_a unless_o it_o fall_v out_o that_o the_o authority_n and_o part_n of_o those_o many_o who_o be_v interest_v therein_o be_v devolve_v unto_o they_o thus_o he_o allow_v the_o jurisdiction_n of_o synod_n while_o he_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o authority_n of_o many_o may_v be_v derive_v and_o communicate_v unto_o a_o few_o which_o be_v the_o very_a thing_n wherein_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o synod_n do_v consist_v iii_o he_o defend_v 79._o defend_v p._n 79._o luther_n appeal_n from_o the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n give_v out_o by_o pope_n leo_n the_o ten_o unto_o a_o lawful_a general_n synod_n he_o allow_v the_o like_a appeal_n make_v by_o the_o archbishop_n of_o colen_n and_o the_o appeal_n of_o the_o king_n of_o navarre_n and_o the_o prince_n of_o conde_n the_o form_n whereof_o be_v affix_v or_o set_v up_o at_o rome_n in_o all_o which_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n be_v acknowledge_v iv_o he_o allow_v 85._o allow_v p._n 85._o the_o example_n of_o those_o church_n which_o determine_v matter_n by_o a_o public_a and_o nationall_n or_o provincial_n judgement_n speak_v of_o the_o reformer_n of_o religion_n he_o say_v 169._o say_v p._n 169._o luther_n have_v the_o right_a of_o suffrage_n and_o use_v the_o same_o in_o the_o university_n of_o wittebergh_n as_o one_o of_o the_o professor_n in_o the_o church_n as_o one_o of_o the_o pastor_n in_o 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a_o common_a or_o each_o of_o they_o by_o their_o particular_a judgement_n either_o in_o a_o synod_n or_o without_o a_o synod_n vi_o even_o in_o this_o very_a page_n &_o place_v that_o mr_n d._n allege_v 186._o allege_v p._n 186._o d._n voetius_fw-la allege_v the_o example_n of_o the_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n act._n 15.3.4_o 22_o 23._o to_o show_v that_o ecclesiastical_a power_n be_v give_v to_o many_o in_o the_o church_n do_v thereby_o acknowledge_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n if_o he_o have_v think_v they_o may_v only_o counsel_v and_o admonish_v than_o have_v this_o place_n allege_v be_v insufficient_a to_o prove_v the_o thing_n propound_v by_o he_o nor_o suitable_a to_o the_o other_o place_n allege_v together_o in_o the_o same_o place_n viz._n matt._n 18.17_o 2._o cor._n 2.6_o with_o 1._o cor._n 5.4_o which_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o jurisdiction_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n in_o censure_v this_o power_n be_v also_o again_o 189._o again_o p._n 187._o &_o 189._o point_a at_o by_o he_o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n last_o to_o come_v from_o his_o word_n unto_o his_o practice_n whereas_o this_o learned_a minister_n of_o christ_n be_v depute_v and_o send_v 2._o send_v act._n sy._n nod_n nat._n dordr_n sess_v 2._o with_o other_o unto_o the_o last_o famous_a nationall_n synod_n at_o dort_n &_o be_v reckon_v among_o those_o worthy_n who_o praise_n be_v so_o great_a in_o the_o gospel_n be_v the_o messenger_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o glory_n of_o christ_n when_o as_o he_o there_o among_o the_o rest_n do_v exercise_v the_o authority_n of_o suffrage_n for_o the_o decision_n of_o divers_a controversy_n and_o give_v sentence_n with_o other_o in_o the_o 138._o the_o ibid._n ses_fw-fr 138._o censure_n and_o deposition_n of_o divers_a both_o minister_n and_o elder_n it_o appear_v hereby_o that_o he_o do_v not_o think_v all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n to_o be_v limit_v unto_o a_o particular_a congregation_n if_o synod_n may_v go_v no_o 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judgement_n touch_v this_o controversy_n be_v the_o same_o with_o that_o which_o i_o have_v here_o note_v out_o of_o his_o writing_n and_o for_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o matter_n no_o other_o than_o that_o which_o i_o maintain_v throughout_o this_o discourse_n sect_n viii_o touch_v the_o english_a church_n at_o frankford_n in_o q._n mary_n time_n io._n dav_n 67._o dav_n apol._n reply_n p._n 243._o a_o discourse_n of_o the_o trouble_n in_o the_o engl._n chur._n at_o franckf_n art_n 62._o art_n 67._o and_o to_o conclude_v thus_o it_o be_v order_v in_o the_o english_a church_n at_o frankford_n among_o the_o exile_n in_o those_o marian_n day_n that_o if_o all_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n be_v suspect_v or_o find_v party_n if_o any_o appeal_v be_v make_v from_o they_o that_o then_o such_o appeal_n be_v make_v to_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n may_v appoint_v so_o many_o of_o the_o congregation_n to_o hear_v 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the_o church_n or_o whether_o the_o officer_n be_v choose_v with_o the_o public_a knowledge_n and_o free_a consent_n of_o the_o church_n have_v not_o by_o virtue_n of_o their_o call_a power_n to_o hear_v &_o judge_v matter_n to_o rebuke_v and_o censure_v offender_n without_o the_o advice_n of_o the_o multitude_n yet_o so_o that_o in_o matter_n of_o great_a importance_n &_o more_o public_a concernment_n as_o admission_n excommunication_n &_o absolution_n of_o member_n election_n &_o deposition_n of_o officer_n etc._n etc._n the_o case_n be_v make_v know_v unto_o &_o determine_v with_o the_o free_a consent_n of_o the_o people_n according_a to_o the_o practice_n above-written_a the_o former_a of_o these_o be_v deny_v the_o latter_a affirm_v &_o maintain_v in_o the_o ensue_a discourse_n chap._n ii_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o the_o eldership_n injudging_a &_o end_v some_o cause_n without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o congregation_n 1._o the_o title_n give_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o ecclesiastical_a office_n &_o officer_n be_v such_o as_o import_v a_o power_n of_o judge_a cause_n be_v such_o title_n as_o do_v express_a &_o declare_v the_o power_n of_o judgement_n which_o be_v in_o the_o ruler_n of_o israel_n both_o civil_a &_o ecclesiastical_a as_o for_o example_n 1._o a_o guide_n or_o leader_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o title_n give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n heb._n 13.7_o 17_o 24._o &_o be_v the_o same_o that_o in_o the_o greek_a translation_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n agreeable_a to_o the_o original_a be_v give_v to_o civil_a ruler_n josh_n 13.21_o deut._n 1.13_o mica_n 3.9_o 11.2_o chro._n 5.1_o ezek._n 44.3_o &_o 45.7_o dan._n 3.2_o as_o also_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n act._n 7.10_o beside_o it_o be_v the_o same_o with_o another_o word_n so_o often_o give_v unto_o civil_a ruler_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d mat._n 2.6_o &_o 27.2_o act._n 23.24_o 26_o 33._o 1._o pet._n 2.14_o etc._n etc._n and_o so_o be_v this_o word_n also_o use_v by_o other_o humane_a writer_n abundant_o 2._o a_o bishop_n or_o overseer_n the_o title_n give_v by_o the_o h._n ghost_n unto_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n to_o describe_v their_o authority_n &_o power_n act._n 20.28_o phil._n 1.1_o 1._o tim._n 3.2_o tit._n 1.7_o be_v the_o same_o word_n that_o be_v give_v to_o express_v the_o power_n of_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o the_o greek_a translation_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n num._n 31.14_o judg._n 9.28_o 2._o kin._n 11.15_o and_o very_o often_o in_o other_o writer_n 3._o a_o elder_a nafi_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nafi_n the_o title_n which_o the_o scripture_n use_v to_o denote_v &_o show_v the_o office_n of_o ecclesiastical_a elder_n act._n 14.23_o &_o 15.2_o 4._o &_o 20.17_o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o tit._n 1.5_o 1._o pet._n 5.1_o be_v the_o same_o word_n which_o be_v likewise_o give_v to_o civil_a ruler_n &_o elder_n in_o the_o gate_n judg._n 8.14_o ruth_n 4.2_o 3._o etc._n etc._n 2._o sam._n 5.3_o 1._o chron._n 11.3_o 4._o a_o prince_n or_o ruler_n be_v the_o title_n of_o civil_a governor_n in_o the_o commonwealth_n to_o signify_v their_o authority_n num._n 7.2_o gen._n 25.16_o &_o 34.2_o levit._fw-la 4.22_o rom._n 13.3_o 1._o cor._n 2.6_o be_v also_o give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a ruler_n to_o note_v their_o office_n and_o authority_n as_o act._n 23.5_o with_o exod._n 22.28_o mat._n 9.18_o luk._n 8.41_o joh._n 3.1_o num._n 3.24_o 30_o 32_o 35._o and_o hereby_o it_o may_v appear_v how_o untrue_a it_o be_v which_o mr_n robinson_n write_v concern_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o civil_a officer_n &_o church-governors_n when_o have_v mention_v some_o of_o the_o title_n give_v to_o magistrate_n he_o say_v 135._o say_v justify_v of_o sep._n p._n 135._o ecclesiastical_a officer_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o these_o &_o the_o like_a title_n which_o can_v neither_o be_v give_v without_o flattery_n unto_o they_o nor_o receive_v by_o they_o without_o arrogancy_n and_o yet_o the_o very_a first_o of_o the_o title_n wherein_o he_o give_v instance_n be_v that_o title_n which_o here_o i_o show_v to_o be_v give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a ruler_n as_o well_o as_o to_o civil_a 5._o the_o title_n of_o head_n rosch_n rosch_n wherein_o mr_n robinson_n ibid._n robinson_n justific_n ibid._n instance_v in_o the_o second_o place_n that_o it_o may_v not_o be_v give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n be_v yet_o if_o we_o will_v regard_v what_o the_o scripture_n affirm_v give_v to_o they_o as_o well_o as_o to_o civil_a ruler_n as_o it_o be_v give_v to_o magistrate_n in_o deut._n 1.15_o the_o place_n allege_v by_o mr_n robinson_n so_o be_v it_o also_o give_v to_o minister_n in_o 1._o chron._n 15.12_o &_o 23.24_o &_o 24.4_o &_o 26.10_o 12._o 2._o chron._n 19.11_o ezra_n 8.1_o 17._o nehem._n 12.12_o 22_o 23_o 24._o 6._o the_o title_n of_o governor_n or_o government_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o the_o greek_n be_v gr._n be_v steph._n thes_n ling._n gr._n note_v to_o use_v to_o express_v the_o power_n of_o civil_a magistrate_n thereby_o by_o a_o metaphor_n from_o pilot_n out_o of_o xenophon_n aristotle_n plato_n cicero_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o same_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n also_o use_v to_o signify_v unto_o we_o thereby_o the_o authority_n of_o church-governors_n in_o guide_v the_o ship_n of_o christ_n church_n 1._o cor._n 12.28_o 7._o the_o title_n of_o ruler_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o h._n stephanus_n gr._n stephanus_n the_o saur_n l._n gr._n show_v to_o be_v use_v by_o thucydides_n demosthenes_n herodotus_n plato_n plutarch_n &_o other_o for_o the_o ruler_n of_o city_n of_o army_n &_o kingdom_n be_v that_o same_o which_o the_o scripture_n use_v to_o describe_v unto_o we_o those_o officer_n that_o bear_v rule_n in_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o city_n of_o the_o live_a god_n and_o his_o spiritual_a kingdom_n rom._n 12.8_o 1._o thes_n 5.12_o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o 8_o the_o title_n of_o elohim_n of_o elohim_n god_n which_o be_v so_o often_o use_v to_o express_v the_o dignity_n and_o authority_n of_o civil_a governor_n psal_n 82.1_o exo._n 21.6_o &_o 22.8_o 1._o sam._n 2.25_o etc._n etc._n be_v also_o give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n to_o declare_v &_o signify_v the_o authority_n that_o they_o have_v though_o mr_n robinson_n 135._o robinson_n justif_n of_o sep._n p._n 135._o deny_v this_o title_n also_o unto_o they_o yet_o if_o we_o diligent_o weigh_v what_o the_o scripture_n say_v we_o may_v well_o discern_v that_o this_o title_n be_v also_o give_v to_o church-governors_n &_o minister_n for_o 1._o the_o description_n of_o those_o person_n to_o who_o this_o title_n be_v give_v be_v that_o they_o be_v such_o to_o who_o the_o word_n of_o god_n come_v such_o as_o the_o father_n have_v sanctify_v &_o send_v joh._n 10.35_o 36._o and_o therefore_o according_a to_o the_o exposition_n of_o our_o saviour_n see_v the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v come_v unto_o ecclesiastical_a minister_n &_o ruler_n give_v they_o thereby_o a_o commission_n to_o administer_v in_o his_o name_n see_v such_o be_v sanctify_v &_o send_v of_o god_n we_o may_v hereby_o see_v how_o this_o title_n belong_v unto_o they_o 2._o by_o the_o exposition_n &_o application_n of_o the_o apostle_n those_o who_o in_o moses_n be_v call_v god_n &_o ruler_n exod._n 22.28_o be_v show_v to_o be_v ecclesiastical_a ruler_n act._n 23.5_o and_o howsoever_o some_o differ_v about_o this_o title_n yet_o be_v there_o of_o the_o learnede_a that_o do_v 6._o do_v jun._n &_o trem._n annot_n on_o ex._n 22.28_o jun._n anal_n expl_n ex._n 22_o 28._o joan._n rainol_n cens_fw-la lib._n apocr_n tom_fw-mi 1._o prael_n 6._o so_o interpret_v these_o place_n viz._n of_o such_o as_o have_v either_o civil_a or_o ecclesiastical_a administration_n commit_v unto_o they_o and_o if_o we_o come_v unto_o those_o author_n that_o be_v so_o much_o honour_v by_o you_o they_o will_v also_o confirm_v the_o same_o the_o 7.1_o the_o onkelos_n targum_fw-la on_o exo._n 4.16_o &_o 7.1_o chaldee_n paraphra_v upon_o those_o place_n where_o this_o title_n of_o god_n be_v give_v to_o moses_n translate_v it_o rab_n a_o master_n or_o doctor_n which_o be_v such_o a_o word_n as_o be_v give_v unto_o ecclesiastical_a minister_n other_o 22.28_o other_o aben_n ezra_n come_v on_o exo._n 22.28_o of_o the_o learnede_a jew-doctours_a do_v expound_v that_o title_n of_o the_o priest_n &_o levite_n &_o so_o apply_v it_o to_o church-governors_n another_o 22.28_o another_o baal_n hatturim_fw-la on_o exo._n 22.28_o cabalist_n often_o allege_v in_o your_o annotation_n do_v show_v these_o god_n mention_v in_o exo._n 22._o to_o be_v all_o kind_n of_o ruler_n over_o the_o people_n by_o his_o gematria_n because_o the_o numeral_a letter_n of_o the_o word_n elohim_n venasi_fw-la yield_v the_o same_o number_n with_o these_o hu_o dajan_n vecol_fw-mi shehu_fw-mi signify_v judge_n of_o