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A85410 The controversie between episcopacy and presbytery stated and discussed, by way of letters, at the desire of a person of quality and learning. / By J. Gailhard, A.M. & D. Gailhard, J. (Jean) 1660 (1660) Wing G119; Thomason E1083_3; ESTC R202264 41,795 51

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equality_n between_o this_o and_o other_o presbyter_n wherefore_o say_v jerome_n upon_o the_o epistle_n of_o titus_n the_o presbyter_n be_v the_o same_o as_o a_o bishop_n whence_o it_o do_v appeear_fw-mi first_fw-mi that_o as_o man_n do_v set_v they_o up_o so_o they_o may_v take_v they_o down_o secon●ly_o since_o it_o be_v upon_o a_o necessity_n of_o affair_n so_o this_o necessity_n cease_v 〈◊〉_d must_v cea●e_v from_o that_o function_n but_o this_o be_v not_o proper_o of_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n though_o it_o conduce_v much_o to_o the_o whole_a of_o the_o controversy_n we_o will_v come_v to_o the_o new_a observation_n in_o the_o same_o antiquity_n 〈◊〉_d learn_v that_o the_o people_n have_v a_o share_n in_o choose_v of_o presbyter_n and_o bishop_n as_o it_o be_v confirm_v it_o shall_v be_v so_o in_o the_o council_n of_o antioch_n whence_o come_v this_o maxim_n let_v he_o be_v elect_v who_o the_o major_a part_n of_o the_o people_n have_v desire_v for_o he_o that_o be_v to_o be_v over_o all_o the_o people_n must_v be_v choose_v of_o all_o the_o people_n so_o that_o when_o ne●tarius_n be_v to_o be_v ordain_v in_o the_o general_a council_n of_o constantinople_n the_o father_n will_v not_o do_v it_o without_o the_o consent_n of_o all_o the_o minister_n and_o of_o the_o people_n whence_o we_o see_v that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o lord_n it_o over_o o●he●_n presbyter_n and_o then_o the_o rig●t_a o●_n the_o church_n be_v ●sse●ted_v as_o y●u_n may_v ●ee_z more_o at_o la●●●_n cat._n li●_n 4_o 〈◊〉_d 4_o 〈◊〉_d 1●_n 11_o 12_o etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o the_o church_n have_v a_o th●re_n in_o the_o government_n consequent_o it_o may_v as_o it_o do_v 〈◊〉_d it_o to_o 〈◊〉_d among_o themselves_o and_o they_o do_v so_o in_o the_o primitive_a ch●●ch_n for_o th●y_n be_v consult_v about_o church-affair_n take_v for_o this_o the_o testimony_n o●_n 〈…〉_o of_o m●lla●_n complain_v of_o the_o 〈…〉_o and_o slight_n of_o the_o practi●e_n upon_o 1_o ●●m_fw-la 5.17_o the_o ancient_a syn●_n 〈◊〉_d ●●●th_o he_o and_o the_o church_n after_o have_v elder_n without_o who●●_n 〈◊〉_d no●●ing_n be_v do_v by_o what_o neglect_n this_o be_v discontinue_v i_o know_v not_o except_o through_o the_o slothfulness_n o●_n rather_o pride_n of_o ●_z while_o themselves_o al●ne_v will_v seem_v to_o be_v something_o this_o then_o show_v that_o aso●●_n h●●●●e_n there_o be_v such_o elder_n and_o because_o of_o the_o neglect_n of_o pride_n of_o bishop_n o●_n pastor_n it_o come_v to_o be_v ab●o●●ted_v and_o whole_o ●oote●_n out_o in_o popery_n wherefore_o to_o res●o●e_v the●_n to_o that_o right_n be_v to_o ●enew_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o former_a primitive_a church_n and_o with_o this_o take_v the_o authority_n of_o c●p●●a●_n bishop_n of_o ca●●hage_n epist_n 10._o l●●●_n ●_z ●r●_n 〈◊〉_d b_o ginning_n of_o my_o be_v