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A85313 Presbyterial ordination vindicated. In a brief and sober discourse concerning episcopacy, as claiming greater power, and more eminent offices by divine right, then presbyterie. The arguments of the Reverend Bishop Dr Davenant in his determination for such episcopacy are modestly examined. And arguments for the validity of presbyterial ordination added. With a brief discourse concerning imposed forms of prayer, and ceremonies. Written by G.F. minister of the gospel in defence of his own ordination, being questioned, because it was performed by Presbyters. Firmin, Giles, 1614-1697. 1660 (1660) Wing F961; Thomason E1045_17; ESTC R208016 42,577 55

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pag._n 240.390_o f●●b_n but_o when_o cresconius_n or_o other_o donatist_n will_v bring_v any_o thing_n out_o of_o he_o to_o prove_v what_o augustin_n judge_v a_o error_n he_o know_v how_o to_o set_v the_o scripture_n and_o apostle_n above_o he_o so_o do_v cyprian_n sharp_o speak_v against_o those_o who_o bring_v tradition_n for_o their_o proof_n qua_fw-la ista_fw-la obstinatio_fw-la qua_fw-la presumptio_fw-la humanam_fw-la traditionem_fw-la divine_a dispositîoni_fw-la anteponere_fw-la &_o c_o vnde_fw-la ista_fw-la traditio_fw-la vtrumne_n de_fw-fr dominica_fw-la &_o evangelica_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la descendens_fw-la 74._o ep_v 74._o &_o c_o so_o tertullian_n non_fw-la recipio_fw-la quod_fw-la extra_fw-la scripturam_fw-la de_fw-la two_o infert_fw-la bellarmine_n say_v enough_o patrum_fw-la scripta_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la regula_fw-la nec_fw-la habent_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la obligandi_fw-la to_o the_o scripture_n than_o let_v we_o go_v which_o speak_v so_o clear_a in_o this_o controversy_n that_o all_o man_n even_o the_o papist_n who_o call_v those_o man_n heretic_n that_o deny_v this_o superiority_n of_o bishop_n yet_o be_v force_v to_o yield_v it_o that_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n the_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v the_o same_o let_v cajetan_n interpretation_n be_v hear_v upon_o tit._n 1.5_o 7._o vbi_fw-la adverte_fw-fr eundem_fw-la gradum_fw-la idemquè_fw-fr officium_fw-la significari_fw-la à_fw-la paulo_n nomine_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la &_o nomine_fw-la episcopi_fw-la as_o cross_v to_o bishop_n davenant_n as_o can_v be_v anselm_n the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n in_o his_o comment_n upon_o the_o same_o verse_n bring_v all_o hierons_n comment_n where_o he_o prove_v bishop_n and_o presbyter_n to_o be_v the_o same_o and_o no_o way_n oppose_v it_o estius_n who_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o disputation_n call_v they_o heretic_n who_o will_v not_o yield_v the_o superiority_n of_o bishop_n and_o that_o jure_fw-la divino_fw-la in_o the_o midst_n of_o his_o disputation_n have_v these_o word_n quod_fw-la autem_fw-la jure_fw-la divin●_n sint_fw-la episcopi_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la superiores_fw-la 25._o senten_n l._n 4._o d._n 24._o s._n 25._o etsi_fw-la non_fw-la ita_fw-la clarum_fw-la est_fw-la è_fw-la saoris_fw-la literis_fw-la aliunde_fw-la ramen_fw-la satis_fw-la efficaciter_fw-la probari_fw-la potest_fw-la probatur_fw-la tam_fw-la ratione_fw-la quàm_fw-la testimoniis_fw-la veterum_fw-la it_o seem_v then_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o clear_a enough_o to_o prove_v this_o superiority_n in_o his_o opinion_n and_o which_o be_v divine_o speak_v though_o he_o can_v not_o prove_v the_o divine_a right_n of_o this_o superiority_n out_o of_o the_o scripture_n yet_o he_o will_v prove_v it_o by_o reason_n and_o testimony_n of_o ancient_n haddit_n a_o presbyterian_a write_v thus_o he_o shall_v have_v be_v scorn_v to_o purpose_n take_v the_o papist_n again_o in_o their_o i._n c._n do_v 60._o sacre_n ordines_fw-la dicimus_fw-la diaconatum_fw-la 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