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how_o say_v he_o but_o simple_o say_v that_o they_o be_v ordain_v by_o prayer_n for_o this_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v ordination_n the_o hand_n be_v lay_v upon_o the_o man_n but_o it_o be_v god_n who_o work_v all_o and_o it_o be_v his_o hand_n that_o do_v touch_v the_o head_n of_o the_o ordain_v if_o he_o be_v ordain_v as_o he_o ought_v and_o s._n hierome_n most_o plain_o isaiae_n hierom._n in_o 58._o isaiae_n three_o other_o interpreter_n say_v he_o do_v translate_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o finger_n stretch_v forth_o but_o the_o most_o of_o we_o do_v interpret_v it_o the_o ordination_n of_o clergy_n man_n which_o be_v perform_v not_o alone_o by_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o voice_n but_o by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o hand_n but_o if_o the_o demonstrator_n mean_v not_o deceitful_o why_o do_v he_o not_o for_o proof_n of_o the_o constant_a practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n church_n herein_o produce_v all_o ordination_n of_o ecclesiastical_a person_n 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matrimonial_a or_o for_o preservation_n of_o church_n and_o church_n good_n or_o last_o of_o punish_v fault_n which_o the_o temporal_a law_n do_v not_o punish_v &_o those_o be_v either_o diffamation_n of_o a_o man_n neighbour_n at_o the_o suit_n of_o some_o party_n or_o of_o other_o fault_n as_o blasphemy_n sorcery_n adultery_n drunkenness_n etc._n etc._n the_o public_a corporal_a punishment_n whereof_o if_o it_o be_v commute_v into_o pecuniary_a to_o their_o own_o private_a gain_n it_o be_v not_o by_o law_n warrant_v but_o be_v the_o personal_a fault_n of_o the_o man_n &_o deep_o punishable_a and_o therefore_o this_o minor_a be_v both_o without_o appearance_n of_o truth_n and_o very_o opprobrious_a the_o seven_o chapter_n assertion_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n officer_n of_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v ordain_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n of_o the_o eldership_n demonstration_n demonstration_n the_o 1._o demonstration_n as_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n they_o be_v ordain_v so_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d while_o they_o preach_v say_v chrysostome_n expound_v that_o place_n or_o while_o they_o minister_v unto_o or_o for_o the_o lord_n but_o how_o follow_v it_o out_o of_o this_o place_n that_o because_o there_o be_v prophet_n and_o doctor_n in_o the_o church_n there_o ergo_fw-la there_o be_v unpreaching_a elder_n also_o though_o not_o specificallie_o name_v to_o be_v there_o or_o these_o fast_v and_o pray_v and_o lay_v their_o hand_n upon_o barnabas_n and_o saul_n ergo_fw-la other_o unpreach_v elder_n also_o lay_v their_o hand_n you_o may_v as_o just_o conclude_v they_o be_v not_o there_o ergo_fw-la they_o be_v there_o or_o the_o elder_n lay_v not_o their_o hand_n ergo_fw-la they_o lay_v on_o their_o hand_n but_o hereof_o we_o thus_o reason_n against_o you_o as_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n they_o be_v ordain_v so_o they_o must_v be_v still_o ordain_v in_o the_o apostle_n ordination_n be_v no_o one_o word_n of_o ordination_n by_o such_o lie_v elder_n that_o 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exception_n if_o his_o employment_n may_v be_v there_o with_o most_o convenience_n of_o do_v good_a be_v it_o over_o a_o whole_a province_n or_o in_o a_o particular_a church_n for_o else_o how_o dare_v s._n paul_n have_v at_o that_o time_n send_v for_o they_o out_o of_o their_o cure_n and_o if_o it_o have_v be_v but_o for_o a_o hour_n the_o 11._o demonstration_n if_o satan_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o non_fw-la residence_n than_o it_o be_v utter_o unlawful_a demonstration_n demonstration_n but_o satan_n be_v the_o cause_n 1._o thes_n 2.17_o 18._o ergo._n to_o the_o mayor_n although_o satan_n etc._n etc._n yet_o it_o be_v not_o utter_o unlawful_a remonstrance_n remonstrance_n for_o albeit_o satan_n may_v be_v cause_n of_o retchlesnesse_n and_o carelessness_n in_o some_o satan_n be_v not_o cause_n of_o non_fw-la residence_n in_o all_o this_o mayor_n seem_v to_o import_v this_o whatsoever_o satan_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o be_v utter_o unlawful_a to_o give_v a_o instance_n satan_n be_v the_o 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be_v unlawful_a but_o the_o congregation_n have_v need_n of_o we_o ergo_fw-la unlawful_a syllogizari_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la exparticulari_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n to_o be_v absent_a from_o one_o man_n or_o one_o particular_a congregation_n be_v not_o unlawful_a his_o employment_n be_v otherwise_o beneficial_a i_o may_v reason_v as_o well_o thus_o demonstrator_n absurdity_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n to_o be_v absent_a from_o those_o who_o have_v need_n of_o we_o be_v unlawful_a the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n have_v need_v of_o timothy_n the_o church_n of_o galathian_o and_o corinthian_n need_v of_o paul_n ergo_fw-la paul_n and_o timothy_n absence_n be_v both_o unlawful_a or_o after_o this_o wise_a to_o be_v absent_a from_o those_o that_o have_v need_n of_o we_o be_v unlawful_a the_o paynim_n and_o heathen_a in_o america_n &_o terra_fw-la australi_fw-la where_fw-mi no_o church_n be_v have_v need_n of_o we_o ergo_fw-la our_o absence_n be_v utter_o unlawful_a this_o fallation_n be_v secundum_fw-la quid_fw-la ad_fw-la simpliciter_fw-la the_o 15._o demonstration_n demonstration_n demonstration_n if_o the_o priest_n may_v not_o dwell_v far_o from_o the_o temple_n than_o the_o minister_n may_v not_o be_v non_fw-fr resident_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a 1._o chron._n 28._o ca._n 13._o v._n ergo_fw-la the_o second_o i_o may_v argue_v as_o substantial_o and_o as_o well_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n if_o the_o exchequer_n man_n must_v of_o conveniency_n dwell_v near_o to_o westminster_n hall_n and_o the_o sing_a man_n of_o paul_n near_a there_o about_o ergo_fw-la they_o must_v never_o go_v out_o of_o the_o place_n the_o place_n which_o you_o allege_v be_v david_n give_v to_o solomon_n a_o pattern_n of_o the_o court_n of_o the_o house_n of_o god_n and_o for_o all_o the_o chamber_n round_o about_o which_o serve_v for_o the_o treasure_n of_o the_o house_n of_o god_n and_o for_o the_o treasure_n of_o the_o dedicate_v thing_n and_o for_o the_o course_n 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ergo_fw-la elder_n to_o the_o minor_n whether_o you_o mean_v 1._o cor._n 12._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d helper_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n or_o gonernour_n it_o be_v too_o general_a to_o restrain_v to_o unpreach_v elder_n those_o word_n may_v concern_v all_o ordinary_a and_o extraordinary_a christian_a magistrate_n and_o minister_n and_o nothing_o help_v to_o introduce_v elder_n there_o be_v never_o a_o office_n mention_v in_o scripture_n but_o your_o elder_n will_v have_v a_o snatch_n at_o it_o rather_o than_o sit_v out_o as_o they_o be_v like_a from_o any_o patrociny_n thence_o the_o 3._o demonstration_n that_o which_o want_v the_o body_n can_v be_v entire_a must_v be_v in_o every_o congregation_n demonstra_fw-la demonstra_fw-la but_o the_o elder_n can_v be_v want_v and_o the_o church_n entire_a rom._n 12._o ergo_fw-la i_o will_v syllogize_v after_o this_o manner_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n that_o which_o superabound_v the_o body_n 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have_v describe_v 1._o tim._n 5.17_o ergo_fw-la there_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d any_o colourable_a description_n of_o elder_n in_o these_o word_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o place_n give_v commendation_n and_o great_a maintenance_n to_o all_o pastoral_a elder_n that_o govern_v their_o flock_n well_o but_o honourable_a commendation_n of_o those_o who_o with_o earnestness_n labour_n in_o the_o word_n so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v your_o elder_n have_v not_o any_o maintenance_n of_o your_o church_n but_o live_v of_o their_o craft_n and_o trade_n and_o therefore_o your_o can_v be_v there_o mean_v which_o be_v speak_v special_o to_o establish_v large_a maintenance_n by_o the_o church_n towards_o the_o elder_n there_o understand_v the_o 5._o demonstration_n or_o allegation_n there_o be_v no_o church_n which_o can_v stand_v without_o their_o eldership_n or_o council_n ep_v demonstration_n ign._n ad_fw-la tral_n ep_v the_o word_n be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v the_o elder_n or_o minister_n or_o pastoral_n elder_n be_v a_o senate_n or_o fellowship_n of_o the_o apostle_n of_o christ_n without_o it_o there_o be_v no_o congregation_n holy_a or_o sacred_a nor_o synod_n of_o saint_n and_o so_o say_v we_o but_o this_o be_v a_o great_a distance_n from_o your_o laical_a eldership_n this_o be_v our_o holy_a and_o sacred_a convocation_n or_o chapterhouse_n or_o whatsoever_o ecclesiastical_a assembly_n and_o meeting_n it_o appear_v by_o sundry_a place_n of_o ignatius_n that_o the_o presbyteri_fw-la he_o speak_v of_o do_v preach_v and_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n ergo_fw-la he_o mean_v not_o of_o you_o these_o who_o he_o mean_v he_o say_v be_v successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o hitherto_o i_o have_v not_o hear_v any_o of_o you_o challenge_v for_o your_o elder_n that_o be_v lay_v man_n the_o 6._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n bape_n demonstration_n tertul._n de_fw-fr bape_n it_o belong_v only_o to_o the_o bishop_n to_o baptise_v and_o to_o the_o elder_a and_o deacon_n upon_o the_o bishop_n licence_n i_o will_v to_o god_n you_o will_v as_o well_o do_v after_o this_o golden_a sentence_n of_o tertull._n as_o you_o can_v memorative_o recite_v the_o same_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o sense_n and_o sentence_n make_v all_o for_o us._n dandi_fw-la habet_fw-la ius_fw-la summus_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la episcopus_fw-la dehinc_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la &_o diaconi_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la sine_fw-la episcopi_fw-la authoritate_fw-la propter_fw-la eeclesiae_fw-la honorem_fw-la quo_fw-la saluo_fw-la salua_fw-la pax_fw-la est_fw-la as_o the_o bishop_n be_v a_o superior_a minister_n or_o priest_n so_o presbyter_n a_o inferior_a minister_n or_o priest_n for_o your_o elder_n you_o may_v go_v seek_v for_o you_o permit_v neither_o your_o elder_n nor_o deacon_n to_o baptize_v the_o 7._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n lucife_n demonstra_fw-la jeron_n con_fw-mi lucife_n neither_o elder_a nor_o deacon_n have_v right_a but_o upon_o commandment_n of_o the_o bishop_n so_o much_o as_o to_o baptize_v the_o word_n ind_n venit_fw-la ut_fw-la sine_fw-la chrismate_fw-la &_o episcopi_fw-la iussione_n neque_fw-la presbyter_n neque_fw-la diaconus_fw-la ius_fw-la habeant_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la that_o be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n pastoral_a elder_n or_o priest_n the_o word_n immediate_o antecedent_n speak_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o chief_a priest_n who_o do_v authorise_v other_o priest_n ut_fw-la enim_fw-la accepit_fw-la quis_fw-la ita_fw-la &_o dare_v potest_fw-la he_o speak_v of_o chrism_n aswell_o as_o of_o the_o bishop_n licence_n allude_v to_o a_o particular_a custom_n this_o can_v serve_v your_o turn_n for_o you_o hold_v that_o no_o bishop_n may_v debar_v you_o of_o licence_n to_o preach_v or_o use_v your_o ministry_n &_o your_o elder_n and_o deacons_n may_v not_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n though_o they_o be_v licence_v as_o yourselves_o think_v the_o 8._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n elder_n fall_v away_o upon_o the_o ambition_n of_o the_o teacher_n 5._o demonstra_fw-la amb._n 1._o tim._n 5._o ambrose_n say_v synagoga_fw-la &_o postea_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la seniores_fw-la habuit_fw-la tolerable_a remonstrance_n ambrose_n say_v that_o state_n of_o the_o church_n for_o all_o that_o be_v tolerable_a both_o the_o synagogue_n and_o afterward_o the_o church_n have_v elder_n or_o senior_n before_o any_o christian_a magistrate_n have_v the_o preeminence_n in_o the_o church_n but_o no_o such_o elder_n as_o you_o do_v platform_n for_o these_o give_v but_o counsel_n you_o do_v absolute_o govern_v ordain_v censure_n and_o all_o thing_n save_v preach_v and_o minister_a sacrament_n the_o 9_o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n august_n demonstra_fw-la possidon_n in_o vita_fw-la august_n valerius_n the_o bishop_n do_v contrary_a to_o the_o apostolical_a custom_n in_o appoint_v augustine_n to_o preach_v be_v a_o elder_a the_o word_n be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n contrausum_fw-la &_o consuetudinem_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la aphricanarum_fw-la against_o the_o use_n and_o custom_n of_o the_o aphrican_a church_n not_o of_o the_o oriental_a church_n where_o the_o use_n be_v so_o a_o custom_n particular_a mislike_v also_o by_o many_o of_o the_o father_n you_o will_v make_v apostolical_a and_o general_a the_o 10._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n after_o arrius_n be_v convict_v of_o heresy_n 22._o demonstrat_n socr._n li._n 5._o ca._n 22._o elder_n may_v not_o preach_v it_o be_v so_o decree_v caluins_n quotation_n be_v lib._n 9_o socrat._n tripartitae_fw-la historiae_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n alexandria_n tantùm_fw-la institutum_fw-la fuit_fw-la whence_o you_o borrow_v this_o only_o at_o alexandria_n this_o be_v ordain_v because_o arrius_n have_v trouble_v the_o church_n there_o be_v not_o this_o curtal_n of_o place_n a_o evident_a sign_n of_o the_o evil_a conscience_n you_o have_v if_o you_o know_v it_o or_o of_o ignorance_n join_v with_o boldness_n if_o you_o know_v it_o not_o and_o yet_o allege_v it_o the_o 11._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n 1._o demonstrat_n bucer_n de_fw-fr reg_fw-la chri._n lib._n 1._o the_o number_n of_o elder_n of_o every_o church_n must_v be_v increase_v according_a to_o the_o multitude_n of_o the_o people_n bucer_n by_o the_o word_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 8._o speak_v of_o curatorum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la &_o seniorum_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n that_o be_v pastoral_a elder_n as_o the_o marginal_a note_n understand_v the_o minister_n ministros_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la sarcire_fw-la oportere_fw-la quicquid_fw-la fuerit_fw-la neglectum_fw-la the_o 12._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n martyr_n 12._o rom._n lament_v that_o they_o be_v fall_v out_o of_o the_o church_n demonstration_n demonstration_n that_o the_o name_n scant_o remain_v martyr_n cit_v s._n ambrose_n complaint_n of_o the_o want_n or_o defect_n of_o certain_a elder_n for_o advice_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n who_o be_v for_o a_o time_n in_o some_o church_n the_o magistrate_n be_v unchristian_a but_o you_o find_v not_o that_o they_o be_v call_v presbyteri_fw-la as_o signify_v a_o office_n which_o title_n you_o give_v to_o you_o and_o the_o place_n where_o presbyteri_fw-la be_v name_v you_o apply_v to_o they_o the_o 13._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n certain_a of_o the_o people_n be_v join_v with_o the_o pastor_n in_o church-government_n 1._o demonstration_n idem_fw-la 12._o co._n 1._o even_o so_o at_o this_o day_n remonstran_n remonstran_n in_o every_o parish_n be_v the_o like_a assistant_n to_o gather_v and_o employ_v the_o alm_n of_o the_o church_n and_o for_o other_o provision_n the_o puritan_n know_v not_o their_o own_o church_n or_o common_a wealth_n and_o yet_o the_o meaning_n be_v but_o of_o church_n in_o great_a city_n and_o cathedral_n the_o 14._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n 8._o demostran_n caluin_n instit_fw-la li._n 4._o cap._n 3._o sect_n 8._o there_o be_v elder_n in_o the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o say_v it_o be_v no_o necessary_a demonstration_n to_o prove_v it_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n he_o can_v never_o prove_v that_o they_o have_v jurisdiction_n or_o aught_o to_o have_v of_o censure_n of_o ordination_n of_o law_n make_v and_o all_o other_o government_n or_o that_o they_o be_v lay_v man_n and_o have_v no_o maintenance_n by_o the_o church_n or_o that_o they_o be_v annual_a or_o biennall_a officer_n as_o the_o consistorial_o do_v now_o preach_v the_o 15._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n d._n whitgift_n pag._n 638._o confess_v there_o be_v elder_n demonstr_n demonstr_n some_o be_v senior_n as_o ambrose_n speak_v of_o in_o the_o church_n before_o any_o christian_a magistrate_n be_v pro_fw-la tempore_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n for_o a_o stay_n &_o good_a advice_n in_o the_o church_n but_o none_o of_o this_o medley_n of_o perpetuity_n and_o 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