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A41774 The Baptist against the papist, or, The Scripture and Rome in contention about the supream seat of judgment, in controversies of religion together with ten arguments or reasons, discovering the present papal church of Rome to be no true church of Christ : wherein it is also evinced that the present assemblies of baptized believers, are the true church of Jesus Christ / by Tho. Grantham ... Grantham, Thomas, 1634-1692. 1663 (1663) Wing G1527; ESTC R40005 55,798 108

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be_v great_a riches_n and_o worldly_a pomp._n that_o rome_n in_o her_o present_a church-state_n have_v this_o mark_n her_o doctor_n t._n b._n be_v my_o witness_n so_o be_v helen_n geog._n p._n 192_o 193._o and_o napier_n rev._n 9_o which_o author_n show_v her_o riches_n even_o of_o the_o clergy_n only_o to_o be_v quite_o out_o of_o the_o reach_n of_o the_o best_a arithmaticks_n to_o pass_v a_o entrado_n upon_o it_o add_v to_o all_o other_o witness_n that_o of_o expeperience_n and_o it_o will_v show_v we_o that_o when_o their_o church_n have_v her_o domination_n in_o this_o land_n they_o know_v where_o the_o best_a ground_n lay_v as_o the_o ruin_n of_o their_o abbey_n do_v evince_v compare_v all_o these_o with_o rev._n 18._o and_o see_v if_o they_o do_v not_o agree_v another_o mark_n of_o mystery_n babylon_n be_v she_o sit_v upon_o nation_n tongue_n and_o peoples_n rome_n have_v this_o mark_n t._n b._n in_o his_o end_n to_o controversy_n chap._n 26_o 27._o another_o mark_n of_o 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year_n 300_o and_o a_o few_o odd_a year_n at_o which_o time_n the_o papist_n say_v that_o rome_n be_v give_v up_o to_o the_o pope_n 1._o jerom_n who_o live_v about_o the_o four_o hundred_o write_v to_o eustoch_n &_o marcelus_fw-la do_v 17._o apply_v these_o word_n to_o rome_n viz._n fly_v out_o of_o babylon_n let_v every_o man_n save_o his_o own_o soul_n for_o babylon_n be_v fall_v and_o be_v become_v the_o habitation_n of_o devil_n yea_o he_o say_v further_a as_o he_o be_v quote_v by_o the_o protestant_n that_o rome_n be_v the_o babylonical_a harlot_n according_a to_o the_o revelation_n of_o st._n john_n appoint_v for_o the_o birth_n of_o antichrist_n which_o there_o shall_v arise_v and_o exercise_v all_o tyranny_n and_o from_o thence_o shall_v deceive_v the_o whole_a world_n with_o his_o wicked_a wiles_n and_o augustine_n be_v most_o clear_a in_o this_o matter_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o 18._o city_n of_o god_n where_o he_o call_v rome_n another_o babylon_n in_o the_o west_n and_o babylon_n in_o the_o east_n first_o rome_n and_o rome_n of_o italy_n second_o babylon_n will_v man_n to_o consider_v that_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o city_n of_o god_n which_o be_v in_o abraham_n time_n the_o first_o rome_n that_o be_v eastern_a babylon_n be_v build_v in_o chaldea_n and_o about_o what_o the_o first_o babylon_n be_v destroy_v lest_o the_o city_n of_o god_n shall_v want_v her_o enemy_n the_o second_o babylon_n which_o be_v rome_n in_o italy_n be_v erect_v chrysostome_n say_v antichrist_n shall_v invade_v the_o vacant_a empire_n of_o rome_n and_o assay_v to_o draw_v unto_o himself_o the_o empire_n both_o of_o god_n and_o 13._o man_n thus_o it_o seem_v that_o rome_n be_v account_v mystery_n babylon_n four_o or_o five_o
power_n be_v the_o instrument_n that_o in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o church_n be_v to_o exercise_v government_n matth._n 18._o 17_o 18_o 1_o cor._n 5._o 3_o 4_o 5._o 1_o tim._n 1._o 20._o &_o 5._o 20._o this_o government_n consist_v in_o these_o thing_n exhortation_n rebuke_n reproof_n etc._n etc._n with_o all_o long-suffering_a and_o doctrine_n 2_o tim._n 1._o 2._o and_o if_o this_o prevail_v not_o with_o the_o offender_n then_o be_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n to_o be_v exercise_v to_o the_o withhold_a their_o privilege_n in_o the_o church_n and_o to_o the_o deliver_v they_o up_o to_o satan_n for_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n and_o for_o save_v the_o sinner_n from_o his_o sin_n and_o if_o this_o prevail_v not_o than_o the_o sinner_n sin_n be_v retain_v till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n but_o if_o the_o sinner_n be_v humble_v the_o sin_n be_v by_o the_o church_n to_o be_v remit_v and_o the_o offender_n restore_v matth._n 18._o 17_o 18_o 1_o cor._n 5._o 3_o 4_o 5_o 11_o 13._o 2_o thess_n 3._o 6_o 14_o 15._o tit._n 3._o 11._o joh._n 20._o 23._o and_o this_o government_n be_v to_o be_v exercise_v without_o partiality_n 1_o tim._n 5._o 21._o and_o without_o respect_n to_o filthy_a lucre_n 1_o pet._n 5._o 2._o and_o without_o domination_n or_o lordship_n 2_o cor._n 1._o 24._o 1_o pet._n 5._o 1_o 2_o 3_o 4._o 1_o thess_n 5._o 6_o 7_o 8._o now_o that_o this_o government_n be_v only_o find_v in_o the_o present_a assembly_n of_o baptise_a believer_n be_v thus_o prove_v out_o of_o the_o church_n it_o can_v be_v and_o in_o the_o church_n it_o must_v be_v ephes_n 4._o till_o all_o the_o saint_n be_v perfect_v and_o that_o this_o society_n and_o no_o other_o can_v be_v the_o church_n i_o have_v also_o prove_v and_o for_o further_a evidence_n i_o refer_v every_o one_o to_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o present_a church_n of_o baptize_v believer_n in_o point_n of_o ecclesiastical_a government_n as_o for_o other_o mark_n it_o be_v needless_a to_o insist_v upon_o they_o for_o that_o church_n which_o have_v these_o can_v be_v without_o the_o other_o so_o far_o as_o they_o be_v necessary_a yea_o let_v it_o be_v well_o observe_v that_o that_o church_n which_o have_v true_a antiquity_n be_v the_o church_n alone_o which_o have_v the_o promise_n of_o succession_n or_o whatsoever_o else_o be_v needful_a in_o a_o way_n of_o necessity_n in_o order_n to_o she_o be_v and_o therefore_o though_o we_o can_v not_o prove_v by_o history_n those_o thing_n which_o many_o make_v great_a boast_n of_o yet_o have_v the_o most_o certain_a mark_n antiquity_n we_o have_v the_o other_o in_o promise_n and_o therefore_o must_v believe_v that_o the_o church_n have_v not_o fail_v of_o the_o accomplishment_n of_o they_o for_o history_n some_o of_o they_o be_v quite_o lose_v and_o other_o partly_o silent_a and_o partly_o contradictory_n about_o these_o thing_n again_o if_o history_n do_v mention_v a_o uninterrupted_n continuance_n of_o baptise_a church_n such_o i_o mean_v as_o we_o contend_v for_o yet_o it_o will_v be_v but_o testis_fw-la humano_fw-la and_o so_o no_o foundation_n of_o faith_n and_o beside_o it_o will_v suppose_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v so_o behold_v to_o humane_a history_n as_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o she_o to_o prove_v herself_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n without_o it_o though_o she_o have_v the_o holy_a scripture_n but_o this_o be_v sure_o to_o make_v the_o church_n to_o stand_v upon_o too_o sandy_a a_o foundation_n the_o end_n the_o printer_n to_o the_o reader_n courteous_a reader_n the_o author_n be_v at_o a_o great_a distance_n so_o that_o he_o can_v not_o attend_v the_o press_n this_o treatise_n be_v hasty_o read_v over_o by_o a_o friend_n of_o he_o who_o have_v observe_v these_o few_o fault_n desire_v thou_o to_o correct_v they_o with_o thy_o pen_n as_o also_o any_o other_o which_o thou_o shall_v meet_v with_o that_o probable_o he_o have_v oversee_v page_n 16._o line_n 19_o for_o will_v allow_v read_v will_v not_o allow_v p._n 20._o l._n 23._o f._n these_o follow_v r._n in_o these_o thing_n follow_v p._n 31._o l._n 22._o f._n they_o advance_v r._n they_o may_v advance_v august_n contra_fw-la max._n l._n 3._o c._n 14._o mar._n 7._o these_o be_v both_o general_n council_n mat._n 26_o 1_o cor._n 11_o cyprian_a serm._n penet_n gelas_n consec_fw-la dist_n 2._o aug._n de_fw-fr nat._n &_o grat._n aug._n in_o john_n tract_n 94._o aug._n ad_fw-la fortunat_fw-la august_n prologue_n l._n 3._o de_fw-fr trin._n orig._n in_o jer._n hom_n 1._o 1._o the_o apostle_n be_v here_o except_v gerson_n exam_n of_o doct._n panor_n chap._n signif_n signif_n note_v there_o be_v not_o the_o word_n as_o in_o my_o word_n only_o i_o say_v the_o same_o that_o be_v god_n must_v take_v up_o our_o quarrel_n and_o how_o that_o must_v be_v be_v show_v in_o my_o answer_n follow_v heb._n 1._o 1._o 1._o not_o deny_v christ_n to_o be_v her_o foundation_n in_o the_o main_a eph._n 2._o 20._o chrisost_n hom._n in_o mat._n 24_o aug._n cont_n petil_n c._n 85_o aug._n cont_n max._n l._n 3._o c._n 14_o s._n n._n antidote_n chrysost_n hom._n in_o matth._n iren._n l._n 3_o cap._n 4._o aug._n 7._o tom_n cont_n ever_o be_v author_n 7._o qu._n t._n b._n end_v to_o contro_n author_n of_o the_o 7._o query_n author_n of_o the_o 7._o query_n query_n it_o will_v be_v here_o note_v that_o neither_o the_o mark_n of_o unity_n universality_n etc._n etc._n nor_o the_o creed_n do_v prove_v a_o people_n that_o have_v they_o all_o to_o be_v the_o church_n because_o none_o of_o they_o mention_n baptism_n without_o which_o there_o can_v be_v a_o visible_a church_n church_n see_v a_o book_n entitle_v a_o well_o ground_a treattise_n concern_v baptism_n justin_n mart._n in_o or_o at_o ad_fw-la autho._n pium_fw-la jerom._n super_fw-la mat._n 28_o athan._n in_o serm_n 3._o cont_n arrian_n haimo_fw-la in_o postil_v sup_v text_n beda_n super_fw-la act._n 19_o tertul._n qui_fw-la sunt_fw-la bapt._n parvil_a aug._n de_fw-fr civitat_fw-la dei_fw-la dei_fw-la 2_o cor._n 5._o 20._o hillar_n contra_fw-la auxen_n willit_fw-la synop_n rhem._n test_n annot._n rhem._n test_n annot._n dist_n 32_o cap._n 10._o fab._n chron._n rhem._n test_n annot._n in_o rev._n 17._o aug._n de_fw-fr civitat_fw-la dei_fw-la lib._n 18._o chrys_n in_o rev._n 13._o luk._n 12_o 51_o 52_o 53._o mat._n 10_o 34_o 35._o luke_n 21._o 16._o 1_o cor._n 7._o 11_o 13_o 15_o 21_o 22_o 23._o mat._n 3._o 9_o 2_o cor._n 5._o 16_o 17_o 18._o gal._n 3._o 2_o 6_o 29._o act_n 10_o 35._o rom._n 9_o 6_o 7_o 8._o rom._n 5._o 16_o 18._o act_n 2._o 38_o to_o 41._o fab._n chron._n four_o part_n yet_o this_o eusebius_n do_v seem_v to_o contradict_v willit_fw-la synop_n papis_fw-la jerome_n in_o ep_n ad_fw-la rom._n luk._n 24_o 24_o alias_o rantism_n