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of_o scripture_n and_o authoritative_a teacher_n of_o divine_a verity_n and_o then_o 82_o consid_fw-la p._n 82_o that_o obedience_n be_v settle_v here_o he_o who_o hâ—th_v any_o small_a experience_n in_o church-affair_n and_o be_v willing_a to_o observe_v his_o duty_n can_v but_o discern_v what_o way_n the_o major_a part_n of_o christendom_n and_o its_o high_a and_o more_o comprehensive_a council_n that_o have_v hitherto_o be_v do_v guide_v he_o this_o be_v a_o body_n not_o invisible_a or_o latent_fw-la in_o a_o corner_n or_o a_o few_o divide_v from_o the_o whole_a but_o a_o city_n always_o set_v on_o a_o hill_n in_o such_o a_o extend_a unity_n of_o a_o external_n communion_n and_o such_o a_o dignifyed_a preeminency_n and_o universality_n of_o its_o prelate_n as_o no_o other_o christian_a society_n can_v equal_v a_o candle_n on_o a_o candlestick_n a_o perpetual_a erect_a visible_a pillar_n and_o monument_n of_o traditionary_a truth_n 89_o consid_fw-la p._n 89_o frustra_fw-la haereticis_fw-la circumlatrantibus_fw-la §_o 27_o to_o n._n oh_o thus_o subject_v our_o obedience_n as_o to_o the_o decide_n of_o controversy_n in_o matter_n necessary_a in_o any_o division_n of_o clergy_n to_o the_o superior_a and_o more_o comprehensive_a body_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n according_a to_o the_o well-known_a subordination_n thereof_o and_o so_o exclude_v the_o liberty_n either_o of_o private_a person_n or_o also_o of_o church_n or_o synod_n any_o way_n subordinate_a from_o dissent_v from_o the_o judgement_n and_o determination_n of_o such_o as_o be_v their_o canonical_a superior_n which_o if_o observe_v will_v preserve_v the_o catholic_n church_n for_o ever_o in_o peace_n and_o from_o all_o rent_n and_o schism_n the_o dr._n return_v several_a reply_v in_o justification_n of_o the_o proceed_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o n._n o._n thought_n much_o concern_v in_o it_o and_o not_o to_o be_v vindicate_v herein_o from_o a_o schism_n in_o her_o reformation_n not_o without_o but_o against_o a_o superior_a church-authority_n this_o matter_n he_o disouss_v from_o p._n 280._o to_o p._n 285._o where_o he_o seem_v to_o i_o somewhat_o unresolved_a what_o answer_n to_o stand_v to_o one_o while_o he_o say_v 180._o say_v p._n 180._o that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o reform_v herself_o do_v not_o oppose_v any_o just_a authority_n then_o extant_a in_o the_o world_n now_o that_o patriarchal_a or_o general_a council_n be_v a_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a authority_n to_o which_o national_a synod_n or_o church_n owe_v subjection_n be_v grant_v by_o learned_a protestant_n as_o concern_v patriarchal_a council_n thus_o dr._n field_n 518._o field_n p._n 518._o these_o patriarch_n mean_v those_o chief_a bishop_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n that_o contain_v under_o they_o the_o metropolitan_o and_o bishop_n of_o many_o kingdom_n and_o state_n every_o church_n as_o he_o say_v be_v subordinate_a to_o some_o one_o of_o the_o patriarchal_a church_n 513._o church_n p._n 513._o and_o incorporate_v into_o the_o rule_n of_o it_o ‖_o might_n convocate_v the_o metropolitan_o of_o their_o several_a division_n and_o hold_v a_o patriarchal_a council_n which_o be_v of_o great_a authority_n than_o either_o those_o in_o the_o several_a province_n or_o of_o a_o whole_a nation_n because_o it_o consist_v of_o more_o and_o more_o honourable_a bishop_n again_o p._n 557._o that_o the_o decree_n of_o pope_n make_v with_o the_o consent_n and_o joint_a concurrence_n of_o the_o western_a bishop_n do_v bind_v the_o western_a province_n that_o be_v subject_a to_o he_o as_o patriarch_n of_o the_o west_n and_o thus_o bishop_n bramhal_o 257._o bramhal_o vind._n p._n 257._o what_o power_n the_o metropolitan_a have_v over_o the_o bishop_n of_o his_o own_o province_n the_o same_o have_v a_o patriarch_n over_o the_o metropolitan_o and_o bishop_n of_o sundry_a province_n within_o his_o own_o patriarchate_o and_o afterward_o that_o patriarch_n have_v authority_n to_o convocate_v patriarchal_a synod_n and_o preside_v in_o they_o when_o metropolitan_a synod_n do_v not_o suffice_v to_o determine_v some_o emergent_a difference_n or_o difficulty_n so_o in_o schism_n guard_v p._n 349._o he_o say_v that_o the_o ecclesiastical_a head_n of_o the_o church_n be_v a_o general_n council_n and_o under_o that_o each_o patriarch_n in_o his_o patriarchate_n and_o among_o the_o patriarch_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n by_o a_o priority_n of_o order_n §_o 28_o it_o be_v clear_a also_o that_o most_o of_o the_o council_n all_o either_o general_n or_o patriarchal_a for_o the_o west_n and_o consist_v of_o the_o metropolitan_o and_o bishop_n of_o many_o kingdom_n or_o national_a church_n those_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v also_o a_o part_n since_o they_o 6_o or_o seven_o age_n have_v determine_v several_a point_n of_o faith_n reject_v and_o oppose_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o her_o reformation_n the_o obligation_n of_o which_o 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and_o joint_a concurrence_n of_o the_o western_a bishop_n i_o add_v or_o of_o the_o most_o part_n of_o they_o for_o of_o all_o be_v not_o necessary_a no_o more_o than_o in_o the_o first_o council_n for_o so_o no_o metropolitan_n or_o bishop_n can_v be_v liable_a to_o the_o censure_n of_o council_n without_o their_o own_o consent_n do_v bind_v the_o western_a province_n subject_a to_o the_o patriarch_n of_o the_o west_n and_o therefore_o these_o thing_n consider_v i_o see_v not_o how_o the_o dr._n can_v make_v good_a these_o his_o word_n that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n oppose_v no_o just_a superior_a church-authority_n afterward_o as_o not_o trust_v too_o much_o to_o this_o answer_n he_o plead_v the_o freedom_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n from_o the_o pope_n and_o church_n of_o rome_n §_o 29_o and_o from_o this_o discourse_v of_o it_o as_o absolute_o free_a to_o which_o purpose_n he_o say_v p._n 281._o when_o it_o be_v thus_o agree_v i.e._n by_o the_o church_n and_o state_n of_o england_n that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v no_o such_o authority_n as_o he_o challenge_v what_o shall_v hinder_v our_o church_n from_o proceed_v in_o the_o best_a way_n it_o can_v for_o the_o reformation_n of_o itself_o for_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n be_v cast_v out_o as_o a_o usurpation_n our_o church_n be_v thereby_o declare_v to_o be_v a_o free_a church_n have_v the_o power_n of_o government_n within_o itself_o for_o this_o also_o he_o say_v p._n 285._o that_o it_o enjoy_v the_o right_n of_o a_o patriarchal_a see_n and_o whereas_o n._n o._n in_o that_o very_a place_n the_o dr._n answer_v to_o 5._o to_o pref._n p._n 5._o express_o name_n for_o this_o superior_a authority_n the_o most_o supreme_a and_o most_o general_o accept_v council_n that_o have_v be_v in_o aâ—l_a age_n which_o word_n may_v put_v he_o out_o of_o doubt_n what_o n._n o._n mean_v by_o more_o superior_a and_o comprehensive_a body_n and_o by_o more_o universal_a church_n this_o reply_o 280._o reply_o see_v p._n 280._o very_o convenient_o omit_v this_o close_v together_o what_o immediate_o
precede_v and_o follow_v it_o in_o n._n o._n of_o which_o the_o reader_n if_o he_o please_v may_v inform_v himself_o by_o view_v the_o place_n and_o then_o take_v the_o liberty_n to_o descant_v upon_o he_o in_o this_o manner_n p._n 281._o that_o which_o n._n o._n call_v refuse_v submission_n to_o all_o the_o authority_n then_o extant_a in_o the_o world_n be_v all_o the_o authority_n then_o extant_a shut_v up_o in_o the_o pope_n breast_n and_o p._n 283._o that_o by_o the_o more_o universal_a church_n n._n o._n fair_o understand_v no_o more_o but_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n whereas_o n._n o._n whether_o speak_v of_o superior_a authority_n or_o its_o infallibility_n have_v make_v no_o where_n in_o he_o book_n any_o application_n of_o it_o to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n or_o pope_n at_o all_o but_o to_o superior_a council_n but_o hither_o it_o much_o concern_v this_o author_n to_o force_v n._n o.'s_n discourse_n to_o be_v the_o better_a able_a to_o confute_v it_o so_o p._n 282._o he_o 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sanê_fw-la nos_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la re_fw-la etc._n etc._n quite_o in_o another_o sense_n namely_o as_o he_o himself_o expound_v it_o in_o the_o next_o word_n when_o the_o donatist_n urge_v to_o he_o there_o be_v no_o proof_n or_o example_n thereof_o in_o scripture_n neque_fw-la enim_fw-la say_v he_o parvi_fw-la momenti_fw-la habendum_fw-la est_fw-la quòd_fw-la hoc_fw-la per_fw-la universam_fw-la catholicam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la quae_fw-la toto_fw-la orbe_fw-la diffunditur_fw-la observari_fw-la placuit_fw-la quod_fw-la tenemus_fw-la explicate_v himself_o yet_o in_o the_o word_n follow_v much_o more_o thus_o quamvis_fw-la huius_fw-la reicertè_fw-la de_fw-la scripture_n non_fw-la proferatur_fw-la exemplum_fw-la â—arundem_fw-la tamen_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la in_o hâc_fw-la re_fw-mi a_o nobis_fw-la tenetur_fw-la veritas_fw-la cùm_fw-la hoc_fw-la facimus_fw-la quod_fw-la universae_fw-la jam_fw-la placuit_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la quam_fw-la ipsarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la commendat_fw-la 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large_a there_o by_o this_o author_n which_o word_n of_o s._n austin_n 256._o p._n 256._o he_o afterward_o press_v can_v he_o understand_v of_o unlawful_a council_n of_o matter_n of_o fast_a or_o practice_n but_o do_v refer_v to_o the_o great_a question_n then_o in_o debate_n about_o rebaptise_v heretic_n and_o that_o hereby_o s._n austin_n take_v off_o the_o great_a plea_n the_o donatist_n make_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o s._n cyprian_a and_o his_o council_n which_o they_o continual_o urge_v for_o themselves_o but_o n.o._n have_v already_o weigh_v this_o common-place_n and_o reply_v to_o it_o 11._o it_o addit_fw-la to_o p._n 86._o l._n 11._o that_o if_o such_o plenary_a council_n as_o that_o which_o determine_v non-rebaptization_a be_v errable_a and_o amendable_a in_o these_o dogmata_fw-la fidei_fw-la neither_o have_v s._n austin_n any_o reason_n to_o presume_v as_o he_o do_v ibid._n c._n 4._o that_o s._n cyprian_a will_v have_v correct_v his_o opinion_n concern_v this_o point_n or_o to_o charge_v the_o donatist_n with_o heresy_n for_o dissent_v from_o it_o after_o the_o determination_n of_o such_o a_o council_n nor_o have_v the_o second_o general_n council_n any_o just_a ground_n to_o put_v it_o in_o the_o creed_n credo_fw-la unum_fw-la baptisma_fw-la in_o remissionem_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la no_o just_a cause_n i_o say_v
in_o not_o err_v or_o in_o believe_v aright_o in_o necessary_n here_o grant_v to_o the_o church_n governor_n in_o like_a manner_n as_o to_o mechanic_n but_o only_o their_o infallibility_n in_o teach_v to_o other_o the_o same_o necessary_a thing_n which_o they_o themselves_o believe_v and_o by_o their_o infallibility_n here_o be_v mean_v not_o passive_o their_o not_o be_v deceive_v but_o active_o their_o not_o deceive_v and_o that_o n._n o_o in_o prove_v these_o church-governor_n their_o believe_v aright_o in_o necessary_n have_v lose_v his_o labour_n his_o discourse_n proceed_v as_o the_o dr_n say_v from_o a_o very_a false_a way_n of_o reason_v from_o believe_v to_o teach_v to_o which_o that_o i_o may_v not_o be_v here_o further_a tedious_a in_o repeat_v the_o same_o thing_n i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o review_v what_o have_v be_v say_v to_o this_o in_o the_o former_a discourse_n §_o 38._o p._n 26._o ib._n l._n 9_o urge_v as_o n._n oh_o argue_v if_o god_n will_v not_o be_v want_v to_o particular_a person_n in_o matter_n necessary_a to_o their_o salvation_n much_o less_o will_v he_o be_v want_v to_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o matter_n of_o faith_n n.o._n infer_v or_o urge_v no_o such_o thing_n but_o this_o be_v just_o infer_v not_o want_v to_o the_o church_n guide_v in_o all_o necessary_a matter_n of_o faith_n see_v note_n on_o p._n 104._o l._n 15._o meanwhile_o from_o what_o motive_n think_v this_o author_n come_v that_o profession_n of_o dr_n hammond_n concern_v all_o matter_n of_o faith_n 6._o faith_n of_o heresy_n §._o 14._o n._n 6._o we_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o any_o general_a council_n true_o such_o ever_o do_v or_o shall_v err_v in_o any_o matter_n of_o faith_n he_o mean_v in_o define_v it_o and_o that_o of_o bishop_n bramhal_o 9_o bramhal_o vindic._n e._n 2._o p._n 9_o we_o be_v most_o ready_a in_o all_o our_o difference_n to_o stand_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o a_o free_a general_n council_n ib._n l._n 5_o he_o go_v on_o no_o 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that_o scripture_n that_o be_v so_o clear_a to_o they_o rude_a and_o unlearned_a can_v but_o be_v so_o to_o their_o guide_n more_o verse_v and_o study_v in_o they_o pag._n 142._o l._n 13._o beside_o that_o no_o man_n that_o be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o proceed_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n will_v see_v reason_n to_o be_v over-confident_a of_o the_o sincerity_n of_o council_n so_o palpable_o influence_v by_o the_o court_n of_o rome_n the_o sincerity_n and_o just_a proceed_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n be_v ill_o learn_v from_o such_o person_n of_o a_o contrary_a interest_n if_o all_o bishop_n right_o have_v a_o influence_n on_o council_n much_o more_o ought_v the_o prime_a patriarch_n and_o other_o bishop_n that_o assist_v he_o annotation_n on_o §._o 10._o of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 142._o l._n 4_o god_n have_v entrust_v every_o man_n with_o a_o faculty_n of_o discern_a truth_n and_o fashood_n suppose_v that_o there_o be_v no_o person_n in_o the_o world_n to_o direct_v or_o guide_v he_o the_o reader_n may_v be_v please_v to_o review_v the_o brief_a reply_v make_v to_o what_o the_o dr_n urge_v here_o till_o his_o page_n 150_o in_o the_o precede_a discourse_n from_o §_o 40._o to_o 47._o with_o a_o faculty_n of_o discern_a truth_n and_o falsehood_n mean_v he_o so_o as_o every_o one_o to_o be_v able_a to_o discern_v truth_n from_o falsehood_n in_o every_o thing_n without_o any_o guide_n or_o instructor_n this_o be_v deny_v in_o such_o indefinite_a term_n lie_v great_a ambiguity_n and_o deceit_n pag._n 143._o l._n 13_o i_o hope_v no_o one_o will_v deny_v this_o nor_o n.o._n do_v not_o in_o some_o truth_n and_o falsehood_n more_o easy_a once_o own_o judgement_n or_o reason_n may_v be_v sufficient_a in_o other_o hard_a not_o as_o put_v the_o case_n in_o his_o judge_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o the_o article_n of_o the_o trinity_n pag._n 144._o l._n 9_o all_o which_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n at_o all_o if_o man_n be_v not_o to_o continue_v the_o exercise_n of_o their_o own_o judgement_n about_o these_o matter_n viz_o matter_n of_o religion_n exercise_n of_o private_a man_n judgement_n in_o all_o thing_n general_a council_n church-governor_n n._n o_o allow_v for_o this_o also_o be_v a_o act_n of_o our_o judgement_n when_o by_o it_o right_o use_v we_o find_v it_o our_o duty_n to_o submit_v these_o our_o judgement_n or_o the_o particular_a reason_n we_o have_v for_o or_o against_o such_o a_o point_n in_o religion_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o our_o canonical_a superior_n in_o such_o matter_n as_o be_v define_v by_o they_o and_o not_o clear_a to_o we_o ib._n l._n 11._o according_o we_o find_v the_o apostle_n appeal_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o private_a and_o fallible_a person_n concern_v what_o they_o say_v to_o they_o it_o be_v true_a all_o may_v search_v all_o thing_n and_o welcome_a for_o all_o truth_n among_o right_a searcher_n bear_v witness_v one_o to_o another_o and_o after_o such_o search_n if_o right_o make_v they_o may_v disobey_v or_o dissent_v from_o the_o contrary_a doctrine_n of_o a_o apostle_n yet_o this_o also_o be_v true_a that_o whenever_o they_o shall_v so_o descent_n such_o judgement_n be_v not_o right_o make_v which_o the_o more_o it_o be_v use_v right_o the_o more_o be_v one_o confirm_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o his_o apostle_n and_o so_o of_o general_a council_n and_o in_o all_o matter_n not_o otherwise_o clear_a to_o they_o this_o judgement_n right_o use_v will_v still_o direct_v they_o to_o obedience_n of_o their_o right_n and_o canonical_a pastor_n but_o by_o this_o bid_n the_o people_n search_n and_o try_v our_o lord_n or_o his_o apostle_n secure_a none_o if_o after_o 〈◊〉_d use_v they_o either_o dissent_v from_o their_o doctrine_n or_o disobey_v 〈◊〉_d command_n because_o in_o a_o right_a judgement_n make_v of_o thâ—â—_n 〈…〉_o can_v not_o do_v so_o and_o therefore_o the_o apostle_n command_v 〈…〉_o person_n as_o 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find_v no_o command_n so_o plain_a in_o scripture_n that_o we_o must_v believe_v the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o they_o deliver_v as_o there_o be_v that_o we_o must_v not_o worship_v image_n see_v the_o scripture_n declare_v church-infallibility_a as_o to_o necessary_n and_o command_a obedience_n to_o it_o cite_v before_o in_o note_n on_o p._n 113._o l._n 14._o the_o scripture_n that_o prohibit_v worship_v of_o image_n do_v so_o of_o any_o creature_n in_o heaven_n earth_n or_o under_o it_o but_o mean_v a_o divine_a and_o sovereign_a worship_n of_o they_o not_o such_o a_o worship_n as_o we_o say_v be_v lawful_o give_v to_o man_n or_o veneration_n as_o be_v give_v to_o sacred_a thing_n temple_n altar_n gospel_n etc._n etc._n he_o go_v on_o ib._n l._n 5._o that_o we_o must_v pray_v with_o understanding_n therefore_o be_v all_o public_a form_n of_o prayer_n that_o be_v think_v necessary_a for_o the_o vulgar_a by_o catholic_n translate_v and_o publish_v in_o the_o vulgar_a tongue_n and_o by_o those_o who_o can_v read_v communicate_v to_o other_o ib._n l._n 6._o that_o we_o must_v keep_v to_o our_o saviour_n institution_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n sure_o no_o precept_n oblige_v we_o to_o our_o lord_n institution_n or_o practice_n in_o every_o thing_n not_o in_o communicate_v after_o supper_n sit_v at_o table_n take_v it_o into_o our_o hand_n wash_v of_o foot_n before_o it_o nor_o in_o communicate_v always_o in_o both_o kind_n a_o thing_n sufficient_o clear_v by_o the_o practice_n of_o antiquity_n and_o pure_a time_n which_o on_o several_a occasion_n and_o that_o where_o no_o absolute_a necessity_n give_v it_o in_o one_o kind_n only_o believe_v our_o lord_n body_n and_o blood_n to_o be_v receive_v in_o any_o one_o species_n now_o where_o a_o divine_a precept_n oblige_v the_o contrary_a practice_n in_o no_o time_n will_v be_v lawful_a the_o eastern_a church_n also_o for_o the_o same_o reason_n as_o the_o west_n viz_o to_o prevent_v the_o many_o abuse_n and_o irreverence_n that_o have_v happen_v since_o christianity_n so_o exceed_o populous_a communicate_v the_o people_n not_o by_o their_o eat_v our_o lord_n body_n and_o drink_v his_o blood_n apart_o but_o by_o give_v they_o both_o these_o together_o take_v out_o of_o the_o chalice_n with_o a_o little_a spoon_n and_o so_o put_v it_o into_o their_o mouth_n and_o think_v herein_o they_o transgress_v no_o precept_n so_o jo._n 6.53_o be_v not_o understand_v as_o a_o precept_n extend_v to_o all_o for_o so_o it_o will_v to_o infant_n nor_o that_o jo._n 13.14_o or_o jam._n 5.14.15_o or_o matt._n 6.17_o 5.34_o and_o such_o like_a ib._n l._n 7._o but_o if_o any_o guide_n of_o a_o church_n pretend_v to_o a_o authority_n to_o evacuate_v the_o force_n of_o these_o the_o divine_a law_n &c._n &c._n evacuate_v i.e._n in_o the_o sense_n you_o take_v they_o in_o stand_v to_o no_o certain_a judge_n concern_v this_o sense_n ib._n l._n 15._o if_o they_o require_v thing_n contrary_a to_o a_o direct_a 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art_n 29_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n ib._n l._n 17._o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n it_o be_v account_v as_o much_o a_o mortal_a sin_n to_o disobey_v their_o guide_n in_o the_o most_o indifferent_a thing_n as_o to_o disobey_v god_n in_o the_o plain_a command_n of_o scripture_n as_o much_o no._n but_o as_o well_o for_o mortal_a sin_n admit_v degree_n and_o mandata_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la non_fw-la anteponi_fw-la sed_fw-la postponi_fw-la debere_fw-la dicimus_fw-la divinis_fw-la praceptis_fw-la 17._o praceptis_fw-la bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom._n pontif_n l._n 4._o c._n 17._o say_v the_o cardinal_n though_o all_o disobey_v our_o superior_n in_o lawful_a thing_n be_v also_o disobey_v god_n when_o he_o in_o such_o command_v obedience_n to_o they_o again_o as_o well_o a_o mortal_a sin_n in_o some_o disobedience_n of_o these_o governor_n but_o not_o in_o all_o not_o in_o thing_n of_o no_o great_a consequence_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o benefit_n or_o damage_n that_o be_v receive_v 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meanwhile_o n.o._n affirm_v some_o person_n can_v know_v all_o necessary_n without_o a_o judge_n pag._n 190._o l._n 12._o but_o do_v s._n peter_n say_v 2._o epist_n c._n 3.16_o that_o the_o scripture_n be_v so_o hard_a to_o be_v understand_v that_o sober_a and_o devout_a mind_n can_v learn_v therein_o what_o be_v necessary_a to_o their_o salvation_n yes_o if_o the_o sober_a and_o devout_a be_v unlearned_a as_o they_o may_v be_v can_v learn_v therein_o all_o that_o be_v necessary_a for_o sure_o where_o the_o err_a therein_o work_v their_o destruction_n the_o right_a sense_n be_v necessary_a for_o their_o salvation_n ib._n l._n 11_o which_o man_n that_o wanted-judgment_n be_v ready_a to_o pervert_v to_o their_o own_o mischief_n etc._n etc._n as_o some_o may_v want_v that_o be_v sober_a devout_a and_o diligent_a and_o which_o want_n of_o judgement_n as_o to_o some_o no_o care_n or_o diligence_n can_v remove_v ib._n l._n 9_o but_o if_o there_o be_v such_o difficulty_n in_fw-la s._n paul_n epistle_n be_v there_o nothing_o plain_a and_o easy_a yes_o many_o thing_n but_o if_o many_o thing_n plain_a and_o easy_a be_v there_o no_o such_o difficulty_n ib._n l._n 7_o if_o bad_a man_n may_v pervert_v they_o may_v not_o good_a man_n make_v a_o good_a use_n of_o they_o and_o if_o learned_a man_n make_v good_a use_n of_o they_o may_v not_o yet_o the_o unlearned_a mistake_v they_o or_o must_v all_o these_o get_fw-mi learning_n that_o they_o may_v not_o pag._n 191._o l._n 15._o if_o on_o so_o fair_a and_o just_a a_o occasion_n offer_v s._n peter_n himself_o who_o they_o believe_v to_o have_v be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n at_o that_o time_n and_o at_o rome_n at_o the_o write_n of_o this_o epistle_n do_v whole_o omit_v refer_v man_n in_o the_o sense_n of_o obscure_a place_n to_o infallible_a guide_n what_o can_v we_o else_o infer_v but_o that_o s._n peter_n think_v no_o such_o thing_n of_o necessity_n for_o his_o church_n a_o negative_a argument_n be_v often_o invalid_a every_o 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which_o be_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o scripture_n he_o shall_v say_v in_o necessary_n but_o then_o his_o follow_a answer_n will_v not_o suit_v with_o the_o question_n ib._n l._n 16._o the_o strength_n of_o this_o argument_n depend_v upon_o the_o supposition_n of_o the_o necessity_n of_o determine_v controversy_n add_v necessary_a to_o be_v determine_v because_o in_o necessary_n ib._n l._n 8_o the_o weakness_n of_o humane_a understanding_n the_o power_n of_o interest_n and_o passion_n and_o the_o ambiguity_n of_o word_n be_v as_o apt_a to_o beget_v dispute_n in_o religion_n as_o in_o any_o other_o thing_n more_o need_n still_o of_o decide_v some_o of_o these_o dispute_n since_o so_o many_o thing_n even_o in_o the_o most_o necessary_a credend_n beget_v they_o pag._n 193._o l._n 8._o this_o question_n be_v plain_o about_o a_o matter_n of_o fact_n i._n e_o whether_o christ_n have_v appoint_v such_o judge_n in_o all_o age_n who_o be_v to_o determine_v all_o emergent_a controversy_n about_o 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accede_v ad_fw-la sapientiorem_fw-la vade_v ad_fw-la doctorâ—â—_n coâ—â—unica_fw-la cum_fw-la his_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la scripta_fw-la sunt_fw-la give_v they_o the_o example_n of_o the_o ethiopian_a eunuch_n nay_o in_o this_o very_a place_n cite_v by_o the_o dr_n the_o father_n seem_v to_o explain_v himself_o chief_o of_o the_o clearness_n of_o scripture-story_n from_o whence_o they_o may_v learn_v instruction_n of_o manner_n in_o the_o word_n follow_v where_o reply_v to_o those_o who_o pretend_v obscurity_n in_o the_o scripture_n read_v to_o they_o quaenam_fw-la ea_fw-la obscuâ—itus_fw-la say_v he_o dic_fw-la quaeso_fw-la anon_o sunt_fw-la historiae_fw-la nostine_n i.e._n have_v you_o already_o sufficient_o learn_v those_o thing_n quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la clara_fw-la &_o dilucida_fw-la i.e._n that_o you_o can_v deny_v to_o be_v so_o ut_fw-la de_fw-la iis_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la obscura_fw-la perconteris_fw-la i.e._n afterward_o historiae_fw-la innumerabiles_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o scripture_n i.e._n very_a plain_n dic_fw-la mihi_fw-la unam_fw-la ex_fw-la illis_fw-la etc._n etc._n ib._n l._n ult_n and_o for_o the_o find_v out_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n without_o the_o help_n of_o infallibility_n i_o have_v produce_v more_o out_o of_o antiquity_n in_o this_o discourse_n he_o may_v also_o as_o true_o say_v or_o without_o the_o help_n of_o church-authority_n he_o proceed_v pag._n 278._o l._n 2._o than_o he_o or_o his_o whole_a party_n will_v be_v able_a to_o answer_v of_o this_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_n mean_a while_n let_v we_o remember_v the_o apostle_n advice_n phil._n 2.3_o nihil_fw-la per_fw-la inanem_fw-la gloriam_fw-la pag._n 279._o l._n 10._o i_o dare_v appeal_n to_o any_o person_n whether_o the_o bishop_n derive_v their_o authority_n from_o christ_n or_o from_o the_o pope_n be_v the_o better_a way_n of_o defend_v their_o power_n these_o two_o do_v well_o consist_v as_o also_o do_v a_o english_a bishop_n derive_v his_o authority_n from_o christ_n 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the_o just_a authority_n of_o bishop_n to_o this_o nothing_o to_o n._n oh_o consideration_n i_o say_v let_v he_o perform_v his_o duty_n to_o superior_a council_n and_o to_o the_o pope_n so_o far_o as_o he_o be_v oblige_v by_o the_o church-canon_n and_o concern_v any_o controversy_n of_o other_o usurp_a authority_n let_v he_o acquiesce_v as_o a_o regular_a son_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o council_n decision_n those_o as_o well_o of_o any_o of_o its_o latter_a council_n so_o lawful_a as_o of_o the_o former_a and_o all_o be_v well_o ib._n l._n 14._o n._n oh_o word_v which_o more_o comprehensive_a body_n in_o any_o dissent_n and_o division_n of_o the_o clergy_n according_a to_o the_o church_n canon_n ought_v to_o be_v obey_v it_o follow_v in_o n._n o._n and_o which_o have_v hitherto_o in_o her_o supreme_a and_o most_o general_o accept_v council_n in_o all_o age_n from_o the_o beginning_n require_v such_o submission_n under_o penalty_n of_o anathema_n which_o word_n express_v more_o plain_o what_o n._n o._n mean_n by_o the_o more_o comprehensive_a or_o universal_a body_n of_o the_o church_n hierarchy_n the_o dr_n omit_v here_o and_o it_o seem_v be_v willing_a to_o mistake_v his_o meaning_n by_o what_o he_o say_v below_o p._n 283._o that_o by_o the_o more_o universal_a church_n n._n o._n fair_o understand_v no_o more_o but_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n ib._n l._n 8_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o reform_v herself_o do_v not_o oppose_v any_o just_a authority_n then_o extant_a in_o the_o world_n yes_o the_o church_n of_o england_n then_o reform_v and_o change_v several_a matter_n of_o doctrine_n against_o the_o definition_n of_o many_o former_a superior_a council_n which_o be_v accept_v and_o unanimous_o obey_v by_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o other_o church_n viz._n by_o all_o those_o that_o be_v free_a from_o the_o mahometan_a yoke_n and_o among_o those_o by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n also_o till_o luther_n appearance_n to_o which_o 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england_n be_v and_o still_o be_v oblige_v as_o well_o as_o the_o rest_n and_o do_v also_o submit_v till_o the_o time_n of_o luther_n be_v the_o discession_n from_o the_o more_o comprehensive_a and_o universal_a authority_n and_o from_o the_o holy_a catholic_n apostolic_a church_n if_o any_o then_o extant_a which_o catholic_n charge_v upon_o they_o and_o perhaps_o it_o be_v the_o consciousness_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o discession_n that_o make_v this_o author_n in_o several_a place_n before_o maintain_v 242._o maintain_v p._n 242._o that_o the_o church_n he_o mean_v catholic_n in_o any_o one_o or_o more_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n may_v be_v deceive_v and_o 241._o and_o p._n 241._o that_o universality_n in_o any_o one_o age_n of_o the_o church_n be_v take_v without_o the_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n be_v no_o sufficient_a rule_n to_o interpret_v scripture_n by_o and_o that_o when_o he_o speak_v of_o stand_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n he_o decline_v that_o of_o the_o present_a catholic_n church_n unless_o join_v with_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n of_o all_o age_n pass_v till_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o constant_a doctrine_n of_o all_o which_o first_o prove_v to_o he_o he_o be_v content_a to_o yield_v see_v for_o this_o what_o he_o say_v by_o and_o by_o 282._o by_o p._n 282._o but_o the_o church_n think_v otherwise_o of_o they_o what_o church_n i_o pray_v the_o primitive_a and_o apostolical_a that_o we_o have_v always_o appeal_v to_o and_o offer_v to_o be_v try_v by_o the_o true_o catholic_n church_n of_o all_o age_n that_o we_o utter_o deny_v to_o have_v agree_v in_o any_o one_o thing_n against_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o before_o p._n 244._o let_v say_v he_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n &c_n &c_n be_v prove_v by_o as_o universal_a consent_n of_o antiquity_n as_o the_o article_n of_o the_o creed_n be_v and_o then_o let_v they_o charge_v we_o with_o heresy_n if_o we_o reject_v they_o and_o p._n 259._o let_v the_o same_o evidence_n be_v produce_v for_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o vniversul_n church_n from_o the_o apostolicat_a time_n in_o the_o matter_n in_o dispute_n between_o our_o church_n and_o that_o of_o rome_n and_o that_o controversy_n of_o infallibility_n may_v be_v lay_v aside_o where_o still_o a_o proof_n not_o of_o the_o decision_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o some_o latter_a age_n but_o of_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n from_o the_o apostolical_a time_n be_v demand_v for_o his_o yield_v a_o submission_n to_o it_o nor_o will_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o present_a church_n be_v current_n with_o he_o for_o decide_v what_o be_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o former_a the_o judgement_n of_o this_o he_o reserve_v to_o himself_o pag._n 281._o l._n 1._o the_o dispute_n be_v then_o concern_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n over_o our_o church_n the_o reform_a article_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n not_o only_o oppose_v this_o but_o many_o other_o definition_n of_o the_o former_a church_n but_o neither_o can_v they_o just_o reject_v this_o supremacy_n so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v by_o the_o canon_n of_o former_a superior_a council_n establish_v that_o only_o can_v be_v eject_v that_o be_v unjust_o usurp_v ib._n l._n 11._o which_o be_v sufficient_o know_v to_o have_v be_v the_o beginning_n of_o the_o breach_n between_o the_o two_o church_n the_o breach_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o the_o reformation_n be_v not_o only_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o roman_a concern_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n but_o of_o the_o gallican_n spanish_a and_o all_o the_o other_o occidental_a or_o oriental_a church_n in_o matter_n wherein_o they_o be_v unite_v in_o the_o resolution_n and_o decree_n of_o several_a former_a council_n where_o or_o at_o what_o point_n the_o breach_n begin_v matter_n not_o so_o much_o as_o where_o it_o end_v or_o the_o full_a charge_n that_o the_o whole_a breach_n contain_v ib._n l._n 15._o what_o shall_v hinder_v our_o church_n from_o proceed_v in_o the_o best_a way_n it_o can_v for_o the_o reformation_n of_o itself_o the_o canon_n and_o definition_n of_o former_a superior_a council_n shall_v hinder_v the_o church_n from_o reform_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o they_o as_o this_o church_n do_v it_o follow_v ib._n l._n 17._o for_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n be_v cast_v out_o as_o a_o usurpation_n our_o church_n be_v thereby_o declare_v to_o be_v a_o free_a church_n the_o pope_n supremacy_n establish_v by_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n in_o superior_a council_n cast_v off_o by_o who_o it_o can_v by_o none_o lawful_o unless_o by_o church-council_n of_o equal_a authority_n to_o those_o that_o allow_v it_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v thereby_o declare_v to_o be_v free_a free_a what_o from_o the_o authority_n of_o superior_a council_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o prime_a apostolic_a see_v preside_v in_o they_o by_o who_o so_o free_v 1_o by_o itself_o or_o by_o the_o governor_n of_o this_o particular_a church_n i.e._n by_o one_o member_n declare_v against_o the_o whole_a or_o 2_o by_o the_o secular_a magistrate_n abrogate_a church-canon_n and_o constitution_n and_o decision_n make_v in_o ecclesiastical_a and_o spiritual_a affair_n neither_o valid_a ib._n l._n 6_o authority_n to_o publish_v rule_n and_o article_n but_o not_o contrary_a to_o the_o rule_n and_o article_n of_o superior_a council_n pag._n 282._o l._n 3._o his_o unjust_a power_n be_v cast_v off_o and_o that_o first_o by_o bishop_n who_o in_o other_o thing_n adhere_v to_o the_o roman_a church_n their_o adhere_n in_o other_o thing_n justifyes_n not_o the_o catholic_n bishop_n for_o their_o breach_n in_o this_o this_o author_n well_o know_v the_o first_o cast_v off_o the_o pope_n power_n begin_v not_o at_o the_o bishop_n and_o he_o have_v hear_v i_o suppose_v of_o their_o great_a reluctance_n and_o cromwel_n negociation_n with_o
they_o terrify_v upon_o the_o charge_n of_o have_v general_o incur_v a_o praemunire_n and_o of_o their_o clause_n to_o have_v save_v themselves_o quartum_fw-la per_fw-la legem_fw-la christi_fw-la licet_fw-la ib._n l._n 17._o we_o reject_v nothing_o but_o innovation_n and_o reform_v nothing_o but_o abuse_n by_o innovation_n he_o mean_v innovation_n establish_v by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n from_o which_o he_o raif_v his_o objection_n and_o the_o same_o appear_v by_o these_o his_o word_n follow_v but_o the_o church_n i.e._n the_o universal_a church_n then_o extant_a at_o the_o reformation_n think_v otherwise_o of_o they_o those_o call_v innovation_n for_o if_o they_o do_v not_o why_o do_v the_o reformer_n depart_v from_o the_o former_a communion_n to_o which_o he_o answer_v thus_o what_o church_n i_o pray_v the_o primitive_a and_o apostolical_a that_o we_o have_v always_o appeal_v to_o and_o offer_v to_o be_v ary_z by_z the_o true_o catholic_n church_n of_o all_o age_n that_o we_o utter_o deny_v to_o have_v agree_v in_o any_o one_o thing_n against_o the_o church_n of_o england_n here_o then_o we_o see_v his_o appeal_n and_o retreat_n be_v from_o the_o present_a church_n universal_a or_o its_o council_n to_o the_o primitive_a and_o apostolical_a and_o to_o the_o true_o catholic_n church_n of_o all_o age_n well_o if_o we_o ask_v now_o the_o question_n who_o shall_v judge_v whether_o the_o point_n which_o the_o church_n of_o england_n reform_v be_v innovatition_n and_o abuse_n as_o these_o reformer_n say_v or_o tradition_n apostolical_a and_o of_o the_o primitive_a time_n as_o the_o present_a universal_a church_n say_v must_v not_o the_o present_a universal_a church_n judge_v of_o it_o as_o who_o shall_v judge_v between_o s._n austin_n and_o the_o donatist_n whether_o rebaptisation_n or_o non-rebaptization_a be_v tradition_n apostolical_a for_o tradition_n apostolical_a both_o willing_o admit_v but_o the_o than_o present_a universal_a church_n 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be_v against_o the_o church_n of_o england_n if_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o the_o reformation_n be_v only_o oppose_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o between_o these_o two_o be_v all_o the_o quarrel_n why_o decline_v he_o as_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v he_o do_v 8_o do_v see_v note_n on_o p._n 280._o l._n 8_o the_o then_o present_a universal_a church_n viz._n the_o other_o metropolitan_a church_n not_o only_o western_a but_o eastern_a distinct_a from_o the_o roman_a namely_o the_o metropolitan_a church_n of_o france_n spain_n germany_n &c_n &c_n and_o those_o of_o italy_n also_o that_o be_v under_o other_o state_n than_o the_o pope_n all_o these_o as_o well_o as_o the_o roman_a be_v against_o the_o tenant_n of_o the_o reformation_n and_o so_o the_o english_a church_n too_o till_o the_o time_n if_o a_o much_o major_a part_n of_o such_o metropolitan_a church_n consent_v in_o some_o doctrine_n can_v conclude_v herein_o one_o or_o two_o dissent_v from_o they_o how_o can_v the_o donatist-churche_n in_o africa_n be_v conclude_v by_o the_o rest_n or_o dioscorus_n the_o patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n and_o the_o egyptian_a church_n by_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n have_v not_o the_o donatist_n as_o fair_a a_o pretence_n to_o call_v all_o those_o that_o oppose_v they_o the_o roman_a church_n as_o this_o author_n have_v for_o all_o these_o that_o agree_v against_o they_o be_v unite_v under_o the_o presidency_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o with_o stephen_n bishop_n of_o rome_n at_o first_o be_v their_o main_n contest_v pag._n 283._o l._n 5._o but_o do_v he_o undertake_v to_o make_v this_o good_a etc._n etc._n see_v note_n on_o p._n 280._o l._n 8_o to_o avoid_v so_o frequent_a repetition_n ib._n l._n 12._o by_o the_o more_o universal_a church_n he_o fair_o understand_v no_o more_o but_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n this_o he_o will_v say_v whereas_o the_o word_n he_o leave_v out_o in_o his_o quotation_n of_o n.o._n name_n express_o 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you_o that_o another_o be_v faulty_a beside_o you_o ib._n l._n 6._o we_o be_v no_o enemy_n to_o the_o ancient_a patriarchal_a government_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n no_o enemy_n be_v not_o enough_o where_o we_o ought_v to_o be_v subject_n ib._n l._n 12._o and_o all_o christendom_n will_v consent_v to_o a_o true_o free_a and_o general_a council_n if_o such_o council_n be_v call_v will_v you_o submit_v your_o judgement_n to_o its_o definition_n i_o trow_v not_o let_v your_o obedience_n be_v show_v to_o former_a lawful_a superior_a council_n and_o it_o may_v be_v hope_v to_o the_o future_a he_o go_v on_o ib._n l._n 14._o which_o we_o look_v on_o as_o the_o best_a expedient_a on_o earth_n for_o compose_v the_o difference_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n if_o it_o may_v be_v have_v you_o look_v upon_o it_o as_o the_o best_a expedient_a but_o take_v care_n to_o clog_v it_o with_o such_o unpracticable_a condition_n to_o be_v a_o right_n and_o current_a general_n one_o as_o you_o will_v 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and_o doctor_n meet_v in_o ecumenical_a council_n in_o all_o age_n i_o will_v you_o can_v prove_v a_o true_o ecumenical_a council_n in_o any_o age_n he_o proceed_v ib._n l._n 17._o but_o we_o can_v endure_v to_o be_v abuse_v by_o mere_a name_n of_o titular_a prtriarch_n with_o combination_n of_o interest_v party_n instead_o of_o general_a council_n you_o do_v well_o in_o this_o but_o not_o so_o if_o you_o charge_v any_o such_o thing_n on_o those_o former_a council_n whereof_o the_o more_o universal_a judgement_n of_o other_o metropolitan_a church_n clear_v they_o in_o their_o accept_v they_o for_o lawful_a and_o oblige_a and_o conform_v in_o their_o belief_n and_o practice_n to_o their_o decree_n which_o general_a acknowledgement_n of_o they_o supply_v also_o any_o defect_n that_o may_v have_v be_v in_o the_o management_n of_o they_o ib._n l._n 3_o if_o we_o then_o oppose_v so_o general_a a_o consent_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n let_v they_o charge_v we_o with_o not_o submit_v 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