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already_o as_o when_o a_o couple_n have_v mutual_o give_v their_o consent_n the_o conjugal_a relation_n arise_v from_o thence_o before_o god_n and_o if_o they_o be_v marry_v after_o both_o by_o the_o magistrate_n and_o minister_n it_o be_v but_o the_o same_o thing_n new_o declare_v and_o that_o be_v all_o and_o thus_o i_o remember_v among_o the_o argument_n voetius_fw-la use_n to_o prove_v that_o ordinatio_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la ministerii_fw-la he_o produce_v this_o for_o one_o conjugii_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la est_fw-la mutuus_fw-la consensus_fw-la non_fw-la vero_fw-la externa_fw-la solemnizatio_fw-la which_o he_o confirm_v out_o of_o the_o lawyer_n to_o his_o four_o between_o see_v ant_n p._n 90._o to_o his_o six_o christ_n i_o conceive_v exert_v not_o any_o act_n in_o ordination_n as_o to_o collation_n of_o power_n whatever_o he_o do_v as_o to_o his_o grace_n or_o spirit_n but_o the_o charter_n of_o his_o gospel_n only_o or_o institution_n be_v his_o stand_a 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