was common and did continue in the old Churches Besides this inconvenience saith he caused Princes and Bishops so much to intermeddle in this matter Frow whence it necessarily againe followeth that by the holy Scriptures and law of God Princes and Bishops did not entermeddle with that matter atal For had it been simply lawfull for them to have dealt in those causes by the word of God then aswell before schisme discord and dissention as afterward yea rather much more before than afterward For then by their owne right might Princes and Bishops have prevented Bishops nâ—eddle not with election of Pastors by the holy Scriptures all occasion of schism and contention and have so preserved the Church that no tumult or disorder should once have beene raised or begun therein Againe if by the law of God Princes and Bishops had medled in these matters and had not intermedled by humane device then lawfully by their authoritie alone might they have chosen Pastors Elders and Deacons in the old Churches which thing in this place by necessary inference he denieth For schisme saith he caused them to intermeddle So as by his confession they were but intermedlers and entercommoners by reason of schisme and not commoners and medlers by vertue of Gods word And yet now a dayes our reverend Bishops in this case are no more intercommoners with Princes and with the people they ate no more entermedlers as in old times they were but they have now so far incroached upon the prerogatives of the prince and privileges of the people that neither prince nor people have any commons in the election of Pastors Elders and Deacons with them at all Besides if schism and contention among the people Bishops â—n croach upon the â—ighâ— oâ— pâ—â—â—ce and people were the reason why Bishops first entermedled in the choice of Pastours we now having no schisme nor contention about the choice of Pastours by the people and so the cause of ceasing why should not the effect likewise cease But this effect is therefore still to bee continued because otherwise the cause would a new sprout out and spring up againe Nay rather inasmuch as for these many yeares we have had schism discord and dissention because the bishops wholly and altogether have medled in the choise of pastours and have thrust upon the people whatsoever pastours please not the people but pleased themselves and have not suffered the people to meddle no not so much as once to intermeddle in these matters in as much I say as these things be so it seemeth most expedient requisite and necessary for the appeasing and pacifying of this discord and the taking away of this schism to have the manner of election which was in the old Churches restored to the people and this wherein the bishops have intermedled without authoritie from the word to be abolished that so againe the cause of scbism and strife which is now among us ceasing the effect might likewise cease After I had ended this tract in this manner touching this point there came into mine hands a booke intituled The perpetuall government of Christs Church written by Thomas Bilson Warden of Winchester Colledge in the fifteenth chapter of which booke is handled this question viz. to whom the election of Bishops and Presbyters doth rightly belong and whetherby Gods law the people must elect their pastours or no. In which chapter also the matter of schism strife and contention is handled The finall scope and conclusion whereof is as the proposition importeth twofold First concerning Bishops then concerning Pastours The quarrell taken against Bishops doth not so much touch saith hee the office and functions of Bishops as it doth the Princes prerogative When you rather thinke the Prince may not name her Bishops without the consent and election of the people you impugne not us but directly call the Princes fact and her lawes in question As touching this point of the proposition because the people by any law or custome never challenged any right or interest in the choise of the Kings bishops wee have nothing The King only hath power without the people to nominate his Kingly Bb. to meddle or to make about the choise of any of the Kings Bishops Nay we confesse as his highnesse progenitors Kings of England have beene the Soveraigne Donours Founders Lords and Avowes of all the Bishopricks in England without aid of the people that so likewise it is a right and interest invested into his Imperiall crowne that he only his heires and successors without consent of the people ought to have the free nomination appointment collation investiture confirmation of all the Bishops from time to time to be planted in any of those Bishoprickes yea and wee say further that the King alone hath not power onely to nominate collate and confirm but also to translate yea and if it please him to depose all his Kingly Bishops without any consent of his people at all For say we ejus est destruere cujus est construere ejus est tollere cujus est condere Neither will we dislike but rather content our selves that our late Queens Bishops if they shall finde favour in the Kings eyes should be also the Kings Bishops conditionally they submit themselves to the lawes and prerogatives of the Kings Crowne content themselves with the only name of Kingly and Princely Bishops and not challenge any more unto themselves the sole titles of Godly and Christian Bishops as though without injurie to the law of â—od and Gospell of our Saviour Christ they could not bee dispossessed of their Lordly Bishopricks And therefore our most humble prayer to the King is that his Majestie would bee pleased that such his Kingly Bishops may not henceforth over crow and justle out Gods Bishops nor have any primacie over Gods Bishops And withall that the King himselfe would vouchsafe to hearken to the doctrine of such as are indeed Gods Bishops rather than to the Counsell of those who lately were the Queenes bishops As touching the second part viz. whether the people by Gods M. Bilson confirmeth the peoples election of their pastor p. 339. law must elect their Pastours or no Master Bilson by reasons and proofes brought for the first use of it rather confirmeth than impugneth the same For saith hee Well may the peoples interest stand upon the grounds of reason and nature and bee derived from the rules of Christian equitie and societie That each Church and people stand free by Gods law to admit maintaine or obey no maâ— as their Pastour without their liking unlesse by law custome or consent they have restrained themselves Then the people had as much right to choose their 360 Pastour as the Clergie that had more skill to judge that the Apostles left elections indifferent to the people and Clergie at Jerusalem That the Apostles in the Acts when they willed the Church at Jerusalem to choose the seven did not make any remembrance or
nor only the probate of Wills and granting of administrations but also the cognisance of Ecclesiasticall crimes with power to use the Ecclesiasticall censures Yea and this authority of the execution of Ecclesiasticall censures have those Deanes either long since by some papall priviledges obtained or else by long use prescribed against the Bishops Whereby againe it is cleerely convinced that Episcopall excommunication used in the Church of England is not of divine Institution but only by by humane tradition For were it of divine right then could the same no more bee prescribed or by papall immunity bee possessed than could these Deanes prescribe power or be enfranchised to preach the word or to administer the Sacraments These things have we thus at large and more fully intreaâ—ed of to the end that the Kings Highnesse and His Parliament and all sorts of people might well understand how it is not altogether an unusuall and unaccustomed thing in the Church of England that private and inferiour ministers as they call them in their owne right and in their owne parochiall Parishes without any authority from the Bishop should exercise even the highest censure of the Church And that in sundry places of the Realme there is no preeminence in the matter of the execution of the censures attributed to a Bishop above a Minister Nay which is more than is attributed to a Bishop No more prcheminence given to a B than to a Minister or to a lay man in some places for the use of excommunication above a Lay man yea than to such a lay man who is authorized onely by a lay man to his office Which is evident by Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction and censures exercised a long time by Lay men in the peculiar jurisdictions of Newton Gronbie Anstie Soke of Rothely Evington and other parishes and Hamlectes in the Countie Leycester The Officers of all which places for their spirituall authority having not had any other warrant than such only as hath beene signed sometimes under the hand and seale of the right Honourable the Earle of Huntingdon deceased sometimes of the Honourable Sir Henry Grey Knight sometimes of Henry Skipwith Esquire and sometimes of others For the avoyding therefore of sundry intolerable inconveniences which hetherto hath ensued for want of that authority which the Law setled doth enable every Minister with It is most expedient that all humane authority in the execution of spirituall censures bee utterly taken away and that the divine and Evangelicall censures of Christ bee ministred in every Congregation where learned and godly Pastors with discreet Elders may bee had as from the minde of the Lord they were executed in the Apostolicall and Primitive Church I had almost forgotten to speake of one common and usuall kinde of jurisdiction spirituall in the use of the censures of the Church by the Archbishops which in cases of their Prerogative they have prescribed against the Bishops over the Presbyters and people of every Bishops Diocesse and Archdeacons jurisdiction within their provinces of one other common and usuall kinde of pretensed spirituall jurisdiction and use of the censures which the Archbishop and sometimes the Deane and Chapter sede Archiepiscopali or sede Episcopali vacante exercise and lastly of that spirituall kinde of jurisdiction and censures so called of the Church which Suffraganes and Archdeacons have and doe use As touching which supposed spirituall power both of the Archbishops and Archdeacons because the same their power doth not only belong unto them jure consuetudinario non scripto by unwritten and not by written Law I must conclude against the jurisdiction of the Archbishops Prerogative and against the Archdeacons jurisdiction in all cases as out of St. Cprian King Henry the eighâ— concluded against the Pope viz That their authorities can not bee from Christ Because Christ said ego sum via veritas vita He never said ego sum consuetudo Touching the jurisdiction of the Deane and Chapter the papall Law being abrogated how the same may lawfully now bee used otherwise than by sufferance and consent of the King and Realme I know not But of all spirituall authority exercised at this day in the Church of England the same seemeth to draw most neare to the semblance of the government practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church And might be approved in many points if so be the Deane â—nd Chapter being as it were a Senate of preaching Elders did no more commit the execution of their Ecclesiasticall juridiction to the wisdome of one Vicar generall or principall officiall than they doe put over the leassing of their Lands or dividents of their rents to the only discretion of one of their Bayliffes or Stewardes As for Bishops Suffraganes in England and in Wales how many there may be and what Cities and Townes are to be taken and accepted for their Seas it is at large expressed in a statute made for the nomination of Suffraganes By which statute also wee are given to understand that it remaineth onely in the disposition and liberty of every Archbiâ—hop and Bishop within this Realme c. to name and elect two honest and discreete spirituall persons being learned and of good conversation and them to present unto the King by their writing under their Seales making humble request to give to one such of the said two persons as shall please His Majesty such title name stile and dignity of Bishop of such Seas specified in the said act as the Kings Highnesse shall thinke most convenient for the same so it bee within the same Province whereof the Bishop that doth name him is Besides after such title stile and name given by the King it is said that the King shall preseâ—t every such person by his Letters Patents under his great Seale to the Archbishop of the same Province wherein the Towne whereof he hath his title name stile and dignity of Bishop and that the Archbishop shall give him all such consecrations benedictions and ceremonies as to the degree and office of a Bishops Suffragane shall be requinte It is further enacted and provided that every person nominated elected presented and consecrated according to that act shall be taken accepted and reputed in al degrees and places according to the stile title name and dignity that he shall be presented unto and have such capacity power and authority honour preeminence and reputation in as large and ample manner in and concerning the execution of such Commission as by any of the said Archbishops or Bishops within their Diocesse shall bee given unto the said Suffragane as to Suffraganes of this Realme heretofore hath beene used and accustomed And that no Suffragane made and consecrated by vertue of this act shall take or receive any manner of profits of the places and Seas whereof they shall be named nor use have or execute any jurisdiction or Episcopall power or authority within their said Seâ—s c. but onely such profits jurisdiction and authority as shall
than to plant the things required to be planted And alas what a resolution was that among pillars and Fathers for so they will bee counted of the Church Especially when as the things required to be redressed were required to bee redressed at the hands of the whole state of governement that is at the hands of the Queene the Lords Spirituall and Temporall and Commons in open Parliament assembled And could any dammage I pray you have ensued to the state of Government to the state of the Queene to the state of our Countrey People Common weale and Lawes or to the state of the Gospell if things amisse in the Church had beene redressed and things wanting in the Church had beene planted by so high and supreme a power I trow not Nay seeing our Countrey People and Commmon weale not only once and twice and thrice but many times have humbly and earnestly prayed and solicited in open Parliament a redresse of things amisse in the Church is it not most evident that things were not considered aright but amisse by these Fathers of the Church And that the considerers by keeping things unplanted rather aymed at their owne profit honour and dignitie than that our Countrey People and Common weale should fare the better by having things amisse to bee redressed The considerers then being them selves parties yea and such parties as by whom things were carried amisse in the Church and whose defects only were required to be redressed no marvell I say if they used all kinde of artificiall advisement and consideration to keepe things still unplanted by the planting whereof their owne unfatherly miscariages must have beene reformed On the other side if things required to be planted might indeed be once planted howsoever happily our former Church officers might bee somewhat male-contented and discouraged to have their superfluities pared and the edge of their swords abated yet is there no least cause at all for our Countrey people and Common weale to feare any trouble or hurly burly among us For if the hand of God be in Judah so that he give the people one heart to doe the commandement 2 Chron. 30 12. of the King and of the Rulers according to the word of the Lord and if the King the Nobles and Commons shall condescend and agree in one and if their voices shall be all but as the voice of one man to allow and approve that which doth touch and concerne them all then shall neither the Nobles have any occasion to disdaine the Commons nor the Commons any reason to envie the Nobles Much lesse can the Nobles be at variance with the Nobles nor the Commons be at defiance with the Commons For they bee all of them so prudent and so provident as that they will not bite one another lest they should be devoured one of the other And in deed why should any of our Clergie-Masters be so void of judgement as to deny the Nobles and Commons after foure and forty yeares experience of a most prosperous peace waiting upon the Gospell to be now growne so uncircumspect and simple witted as that a reformation of disorders to be made by their consents in others should bring forth a confusion in themselves What will they bicker one with the other will they beate and buffet one another when there is no cause of disagreement or variance betweene them For they shall be sure to lose neither libertie nor dignitie they shall endanger neither honour nor profit Our Nobles shall be tres-noble still they shall be Princes and Captaines over our people They shall be Deputies and Presidents in our publike Weale They shall be Peeres and Ancients of the Kingdome their Priviledges Prerogatives Preeminences stiles ensignes and titles of prowesle and honour shall not be raced defaced or diminished But they shall as they may and ought remaine and continue whole and inviolable both to them and their posterities throughout their generations Our Judges Justices and Lawyers shall have and enjoy their authorities credits and reputations as in ancient times They shall be recorders of our Cities Townes and Boroughs They shall be Stewards of Kings Leets and Lawdayes Our Knights Esquires and Gentlemen shall still bee Burgesses in Parliaments and Conservators of the Kings peace they shall bee Assistants to examine and represse thefts rapines murders robberies riots routs and such like insolencies yea they shall be our Spokes-men and our Dayes-men to arbitrate and compose striffes and debates betweene neighbour and neighbour Our common people they without disturbance shall quietly and peacably retaine and injoy as in former ages their immunities franchises and liberties as well abroad as at home as well in their houses as in their fields They shall possesse their tenancies without ejection they shall bee inheritors without expulsion as well to the lawes liberties and customes as to the lands and possessions of their Ancestors They shall not bee compelled to goe to warfare upon their owne costs they shall not be tryed arraigned or condemned by forraign power or by forraigne Lawes There shall no husbandry no clothing no handicraft no mariner no marchandise no lawes of the Land no manner of good learning whatsoever in Schoole Colledge or Vniversitie be decreased or laid aside Wherefore the Admonitor toying neversomuch howsoever hee hath made his flourish and cast about with his May bees his I feare his pray God his yfes and his andes howsoever I say it pleased him to trifle with these gew gawes yet shall none ever be able to prove by any proofes drawne from the holy Scripture or humane reason that any hinderance indignitie or incumbrance can ever betide our Nobles our Commons the state of our Countrey People Lawes or Common-Weale if the state of Church-governement were translated from Archbishops Bishops Archdeacons Chancellours Commissaries and Officials which are officers in the house of God only according to the commandements and traditions of men unto the government practised by the Apostles and primitive Church which they cannot deny but must confesse to have been according to the holy pleasure of God Nay our Nobles and our Commons are most assured to bee so farr from being endammaged or dosing ought hereby as hereby they shall purchase that unto themselves which never yet any oppugner of so good and holy a cause could attaine unto Namely they shall seale up unto their owne soules infallible testimones of good and sincere consciences testimonies I say of their fidelities unto God testimonies of their allegiance unto him by whom they have beene redeemed and testimonies of love and compassion unto the whole Church of God Nay further our Commons shall be so farre from bringing a-dammage upon themselves as they shall marvellously benefit the mselves First by purchasing unto themselves a large immunitie from many foule and great grievances and exactions of money imposed and levied upon them by Officers and Deputies of Arehbishops Bishops Archdeacons c. Secondly by having the Lord Christ whose cause
politike c. were at the first appropried only by the discretion of the Diocesans Predecessors to the reverend Bishops that now are unto Abbots Priors Nuns Friars c. and because the successors of those Diocesans be bound in the same band of iniquitie with their predecessors unlesse by all good meanes they labour that things may be brought to their first and pristinate state it seemeth equall and just that this commutation should likewise proceed and be drawne from the Diocesans and great Churches before specified The reasons whereof may be such as follow The Lands and possessions given by the Kings progenitors the Earls Barons and other great men of the Realme to Bishoprickes were not given as Master Bilson affirmeth to unburden the people Perpetuall power pag. 367. 25 Ed. 3. statutes for provisours Bishopricks founded to some sumptuous uses of the support and charges of their Bishops but they were given as the Law of our Land teacheth us first to informe the people in the Law of God in those Churches Secondly to keepe Hospitalities almes and other workes of charitie And thirdly for the soules of the founders their heires and of all Christians Now then if some of these conditions be such as for the impietie thereof ought not to be performed and if other some also being good and godly be not performed and so the things are to returne to their first nature as in the same statute is alledged then is it reason that the King and Nobles who are the just inheritours and successors to those who were first Donours and founders of those Churches should have as free a disposition and donation of those lands and possessions now as his and their progenitors and ancesters ever had And seeing it is maniâ—est that the lands and possessions of Archbishops Bishops Deanes and Chapters doe not for the most part now a dayes serve for those good uses for the which they were first granted namely to informe the people in the Law of God to keepe hospitalities almes and other workes of charitie but partly for the use of chaunting and singing in the quires and partly to vaine idle superfluous and pompous uses the king can not doe a better and more charitable deed than to convert a parcell of the same lands and possessions thus by defect of the conditions not performed returning to their first nature to and for the necessarie and perpetuall provision of learned able and preaching Ministers to be planted in parochiall Churches now destitute of sufficient pastors for want of sufficient maintenance nay sithence Archbishoprickes Bishoprikes and other prelacies by the very expresse letter of the statute are said to be founded to superstitious uses viz. for the soules of the founders their heires and of all â—hristian the same reason led King Henry the eight his Nobles and Parliaments to dissolve Abbeys and Monasteries and the same reason also which moved King Edward the sixth with his Nobles and Parliament to dissolve Colledges free Chappels and Chauntries the same reason may be a sufficient reason to perswade our Soveraigne Lord King IAMES that now is with his Nobles and Parliament to dissolve Archbishoprickes Bishoprickes Deanries c. First to the end these Prelacies and Dignities may never in any succeeding ages serve to any such superstitious uses as whereunto they were first erected Secondly that the King having them all in his owne hands and free disposition may be the only founder and donor of so many new Bishoprickes as might please him to erect and endow with such liberall and convenable endowments as might serve for learned Evangelicall Bishops to enforme the people in the holy Evangell of Christ to keepe hospitalities almes and to doe other workes of charitie rather than to bee expended as now for a great part they are upon the keeping of great horses caroches and troupes of serving idlers The commutation then whereof we speake and which wee most humbly commend to the consideration of the King is viz. That parcell of the temporall Lands and possessions of Archbishops and Bishops together with all the lands and possessions serving to the maintenance of idle Ministers and idle Songsters in Cathedrall and Collegiate Churches the Collegiate Churches of Eaton and Winchester and the Cathedrall and Collegiate Churches in Oxford and Cambridge excepted by an equall and reasonable proportion may be made with such impropriations as belong to the King the Nobles Commons Colledges Hospitals Schooles c. Provided as before hath beene said that there may be a liberall and convenable endowment for the learned Bishops or Pastors to be continued and placed in all the chiefe and principall towns and cities of the Realm And that the impropriations of Parochiall Churches may for ever be livings for the Ministers of the same Churches And therefore in the just defence of the innocencie of all such as require a godly and religious reâ—ormation we say that they ought not to have beene traduced before the king as robbers and ransackers of the Church And that some of the plotters for the Prelacie more honestly might have imploied both their Latine and their labour than lately they did When by drawing Letters as they pretended congratulatorie to the King only in the name of Preaching Ministers they procured notwithstanding ignorant and unpreaching Ministers to joyne in the action and to affixe their hands and names That such letters have beene made and signed is sufficiently to be proved but whether they have beene presented to the Kings hands is not yet knowne Only if they shall hereafter come then may they be knowne by these words Nos Concionatores c ab omni domestica capacitate eorum qui praetextu religionis ecclesiae insidiantur My Lord the King is wise 2 Sam. 14. 24. according to the wisedome of an Angell of God to understand all things whereof he is informed The third means to reduce impropriations unto the possession of Publike redemption of impropriations the Ministerie is by way of publike redemption or purchase For the accomplishment whereof it is necessarie that not only a common treasure be provided but also that the price of improptiations by a publike consent be valued at a reasonable rate to make which rate will bee a matter of small weight whether they bee valued to bee bought and sold at their old and ancient or at their new and improved rents To provide a common treasure though to some it may seeme a matter intricate and troublesome yet seeing the same possibly and conveniently may be done there is no cause that men should faint before thy fight or be at an end before they begin It is written that the cause when king Solomon raised the tribute to wit was to build the house of the Lord his own house and Millo and the wall of Ierusalem After 1 Kin. 9. 15 that wicked Athaliah and her children had broken up the house of God and had bestowed all the things that were dedicate for
and contained in the Scriptures that infants must bee baptized neither is it expressed and contained in the Scriptures that the bishop of Lichfield must have but one wife Yet because it is contained in the Scriptures that God in the beginning brought but one woman unto one man and gave to one woman but one husband I assure my selfe it will not be denyed but that the bishop must and doth content himselfe with one wife and that every Christian ought to bring their children to be baptized Besides if Master Bilson distinguisheth bishops in England from pastours in England and Archbishops in England and Pastors in England two severall orders and degrees of Ministers in the Church of England then I grant that it is neither expressed nor contained in the Scriptures that the people must choose their bishops in England And why but because the Scriptures having put no difference betweene bishops and pastours know no such bishops as we have in England And therefore bishops Bishops in England are only Bb. by the Kings grace and not by divine institution in England being bishops only by the Kings grace and not by divine institution and ordination as pastours in England be hence is it that the Kings of England by their prerogative Royall and not the people by the rule of Scriptures have chosen their bishops in England And for this cause also was it that K. Hen. 8. with advice of the Parliament did resume the nomination appointment investiture and confirmation of his Kingly bishops from the pope As for the nomination of pastours having cure of soules in parishes otherwise than all patrons by right of patronage doe give presentments their choise institution translation oâ— deprivation the Kings of England by their Pastours in parochiall Churches were never placed by the King as Bb. are in their Bishopricks regall power never yet hetherto tooke the same upon them And if the Kings of England by any fact or by any law did never take away the right interest and freedome from the people in choosing their pastours what right other than by usurpation can the bishops have to impose or thrust upon the people pastours without their liking But by custome and consent the people have restrained themselves Hereunto if it were not alreadie sufficiently answered that the people could not lawfully restraine themselves yet Master Bilson himselfe answereth That the late bishops of Rome never left cursing The people lost their consent by cursing and fighting of the Popes and fighting till they had excluded both prince and people and reduced the election wholly to the Clergie By cursing and fighting then have the people beene overruled and excluded and not by custome or consent have they restrained themselves Yea and by vertue of this cursed fight only doe the Bishops of England at this day exclude both Prince and people from medling in the choise of pastours For by authoritie of the canon law made by those late cursing and fighting Bishops of Rome the bishops of England have the sole ordination and placing of pastours over the people And from hence also it is plaine that the peoples right was not by their default or abuse relinquished and forfeited For then the late Bishops of Rome needed not to have cursed and fought for it And now whether it be not meet that the Lord Bishops professing themselves to be Christian bishops should still retaine in their hands and not restore unto Christian people the possession of their Christian equitie and freedome extoâ—ted from them by the cursings and fightings of antichristian Bishops I leave it to the consideration of the reverend bishops themselves Touching the mischiefes and inconveniences of schismes troubles strifes and contentions so often inculcated and so much urged and excepted against the election of the people there is no man able as I thinke to produce any one pregnant proofe out of any ancient or late historie that any king or Soveraigne power hath interposed any supreme authoritie to appease any discord or dissention ensuing or raised upon the bare choise made of any meere parochiall pastour by any faithfull and christian people The schismes strifes and factions that were raised in the old churches sprang out and slowed onely Schismes and contentions spring from schismaticall and proud clergie masters from the heads and fountaines of those schismes strifes and factions and namely from proud ambitious and hereticall bishops and great clergie masters For they being infected and poisoned with the contagion of schisme and heresie and having sowred the mindes of their Disciples with the leaven of their hereticall doctrines no marvaile if the people became followers of the evill manners of their teachers and no marvaile if they verified the proverbe Like master like man like Priest like people Eustatius Bishop of Antioch being a Sabellian heretike was deposed by the Councell of Antioch after whose deposition a fierie flame of sedition was kindled in Antioch Socr. 1. c. â—â— because one sort of the common people sought to translate Eusebius Pamphilus from Caesarea to Antioch some other would bring againe Eustatius Eusebius bishop of Nicomedia and Theognis bishop of Nice being both Arians with their confederates raised skirmishes and tumults against Athanasius after the death of Alexander bishop Socr. l. 2. c. 2 of Constantinople about the election of a bishop there was greater stirre than ever before time and the Church was more grievously turmoyled The people were devided into two parts the one egerly set with the heresie of Arius clave to Macedonius the other cleaved very constantly to the decrees of the Nieene Councell and choose Socr. l. 2. c. 4 Paulus to be their Bishop The cause of division among the Citizens of Emisa about the election of Eusebius Emisenus was for that he was charged with the studie of the Mathematickes and accused of Socr. l. 2. c. 6 the heresie of Sabellius After the death of Eusebius when the people of Constantinople had brought againe Paulus to be their bishop the Arians chose Macedonius The authors and chiefe doers in that stirre were certaine Arian bishops who before aided Eusebius that turned up side downe the whole state of the Church These Socr. l. c. 9 and sundry such like sturres discords factions and dissentions are found to have beene raised and pursued by schismaticall and hereticall bishops their favourites and followers in the old Churches but that these or the like mischieves and inconveniences can be proved to have fallen out by the election of Parochiall pastours in the old Churches we deny And why then should not the interest and freedome of faithfull and Christian people wrested from them by cursings and fightings of faithlesse and antichristian Popes be restored to them againe And the cause ceasing why should not the effect likewise cease And therefore we humbly intreat the Lords bishops that against the grounds of reason and nature against Christian equitie A â—equest to the â—everend
trouble and expence yea and with greater priviledge than he did before Thus therefore touching the office and person of the King the duetie of the Presbyterie and people the right of the Patron and the person of the Minister to be ordained thus and thus we say and thus and thus as we think may our sayings well stand with lawes setled By an act primo Eliz. c. 1. the King hath full power and authoritie by Letters Patents under the Great Seale of England when and as often as need shall require as he shall thinke meete and convenient and for such and so long time as shall please his Highnesse to assigne name and authorize such person or persons being naturall borne subjects as his Majestie shall thinke meet to exercise use occupie and execute under his Highnesse all manner of jurisdictions priviledges and preheminences in any wise touching or concerning any Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction within this Realme of England Againe by the booke of ordeyning Bishops Priests and Deacons it is prescribed that the Bishops with their The Bb. and Priests must lay on their hands Priests shall lay their hands severally upon the heads of every one that receiveth Orders that every one to be made a Minister must be of vertuous conversation and without crime sufficiently instructed in the holy Scriptures a man meet to exercise his ministerie duely that he must be called tried and examined that he must be presented by the Archdeacon and be made openly in the face of the Church with prayer to God and exhortation to the people And in a statute made 21. of King Hen. 8. it is affirmed That a Bishop The Bishops must use six Chapleins at giving of orders must have sixe Chaplaines at giving of orders Besides by an ancient and lowable custome the Parishes and Parish Churches within every Archdeaconrie remaine unto this day distributed into certaine Deanries the Parson or Vicar of the auncientest Church commonly called the Mother Church of the Deanrie unlesse by Every Archdeacon divided into Deanries consent some other be chosen by the Ministers themselves hath the first place and is the chiefe director and moderator of whatsoever things are propounded in their Synodall meeting which Minister also is called Archipresbyter or Decanus curalis according to the appellation of the chief Minister of the mother or chief Church of that Diocesse who is called Archipresbiter or Decanus cathedralis so that unto this day these Ministers meeting at the Archdeacons visitations once in a yeere at the least there remaineth in the in the Church of England a certaine image or shadow of the true ancient and Apostolicall conference and meetings Wherefore from these lawes and from this ancient manner of the meetings of Ministers and of having one principal and chief Moderator amongst them according to the Apostolicall practice and usage of the primitive Church thus already setled in the Church of England wee humbly leave it to be considered by the Kings Majestie First whether it were not meet and convenient for his Highnes by his letters patentes under the great Seale of England to assigne A Minister to be ordained by the Bishops and a â—ompany of Ministeâ—s at the Kings commandement name and authorize the Bishops and six or moe Ministers within every Deanerie continually resiant upon their benefices and diligently teaching in their charge to use and execute all manner of jurisdiction priviledge and preheminence concerning any spirituall ordination election or institution of Ministers to be placed in the Parochiall Churches or other places with cure of soules within Secondly when any Parish Church or other place with cure of soules shall be voide whether it were not meet and convenient that the auncients and chiefe Fathers of that place within a time to be limited for that purpose should intimate the same vacancie unto Vacancie of a benefice to be intimated tâ— the Kingâ— office the office of the Kings civill Officer appointed for that Shire or Diocesse to the end the same Officer by authoritie from the King might command in the Kings name the Bishop and other Ministers to elect and ordaine and the people of the same place to approve and allow of some able and godly person to succeede in the Church Thirdly the Patrone if the same be a common and lay person A Lay patrone insteed of varying his Clerk may present two Clerks at one time having now libertie to vary his Clerk if he be â—ound unable whether it were not meet and convenient to avoide all manner of varying that within the time perâ—â—xed hee should nominate at one time two Clerks to bee taken out of the Uniâ—ersities or other Schooles and Nurseries of the Prophets and that the same nomination be made unto the Bishop and the said sixe Ministers to the end that both the Clerkes being tried and examined by them the abler of the two might be preferred to that charge And of this manner of presenting two Clerkes by the Patrone we have a president not much unlike in the statute for nomination of Suffraganes By which act every Archbishop and Bishop desiring to have a Suffragane hath libertie to name and present unto the King two honest and discreet Spirituall Persons c. that the King may give to one such of the said two Spirituall Persons as shall please his Majestie the title name stile and dignitie of a Suffragane Fourthly the Bishops and Presbyters having thus upon triall and A Minister found able for gifâ—s is to be sent to the parish that his life may be examined and to have the consent of the people examination found one of the Patrones Clerks to be a fit and able man to take upon him the executioÌ„ of the Ministery in that Church whether it were not then meet and convenient that by them he should forthwith be sent to the same Church as well to acquaint the people with their judgement and approbation of his gifts and abilitie to teach as also that for a time he should converse and abide amongst them to the end his life manners and behaviour might be seen into and enquired after by their carefull endeavours Fiftly the people within a time to be perfixed not making and proving before the Magistrate any just exception against his life A man allowed for gifts and Conversation is to be ordained with prayer fasting and laying on of hands A Minister to be inducted into thâ— Church bâ— the Kinâ—â— Writ manners and conversations whether it were not then meete and convenient that the Bishop with sixe â—ther Ministers or moe of the same Deanrie authorized by the King as aforesaid under some paine and within a certaine time should be bound in the presence of the Elders and people and in the same Church with fasting prayer and laying on of hands to ordaine and dedicate him to the Ministerie and Pastorall charge of that Church Lastly these things being thus finished whether it were not
then meet and convenient that the Bishops with the other Ministers and some of the chiefe of the people should give the partie ordained a testimoniall under their hands or under some authenticall seale to certifie the Kings Officer of the execution of his writt and that the Patron also should present the same person to the Kings officer humbly praying the same officer by authoritie to be derived from the King to cause him by some other writt to be confirmed and really inducted into the possession of the same Church and into the Mansion-house glebe-land and other profits Ecclesiasticall to the same appertaining Oh! but this were a strange kinde of innovation and a dangerous To execute the premisses no dangerous atâ—eÌ„pt attempt to alter lawes setled especially in a setled estate of the Church Well well let my Lords of the Clergie sing this song and pipe this melodie at their pleasure How be it forasmuch as this platforme in some part thereof hath already been agreed upon by divers CoÌ„mittees in Parliament in other some part thereof by laws already setled ought to have been practised and that in other some part therof is an advancemeÌ„t of the Kings authoritie which last part also is lively pourtracted out unto us by presidents from the Archb. B. themselves we shall through the grace of God and favor of the King be able well enough quite and cleane to wipe away all the spots of this calumniation And first touching the intimation and supplication to be made unto the King that his Highnes would Petition and intimatioÌ„â—o the King agreeable to lawes setled be pleased to command every Minister to be presented by the Patrone ordained by the Bishop and Ministers and elected by the people and that the King being certified by them of the execution of his writt should upon their Testimoniall by another publike writt cause the Clerke ordained to be confirmed admitted and inducted to the reall possession of the temporalities of the benifice This manner I say of intimation petition testimoniall and admittance in substance and effect differeth but little from the forme of the petition â—â— H. 8. c. nomination election investiture confirmation and consecration of the Archbishops and Bishops of this Realme For whensoever the Church of Canterburie Winton or other Bishops Sea becommeth destitute of a Pastor doth not the Deane and Chapiter of the same Sea intimate unto the King their want of a Bishop and doth not the same Deane and Chapiter humbly supplicate his Majesties favour and licence to elect another and doth not the King upon their supplication by Letters Patents under his great Seale favourably grant their petition willing them ut talem eligant in Episcopum Pastorem qui Deo devotus Ecclesia suae necessarius nobisque regno nostro utilis fidelis existat And with the same Letters Patents doth not the King send a letter missive containing the name and commendation of the person to be elected After the election finished doth not the Deane and Chapiter intimate the same also unto the King and humbly againe pray the King to yeeld his Royall assent to the Lord elected Whereupon doth not the King againe direct his Letters Patents of warrant to the Archbishop or some other whom the King shall appoint to performe all things which accustomably are to be done appertaining to his confirmation and consecration according to the lawes and statutes of his Realme of England Lastly the consecration and confirmation being finished and the Bishop having done his homage and sworne fealtie is not the Kings writt out of the Chancery directed to the Escheator to restore unto him the temporalities of the same Bishopricke Yea and may not the Bishop also if it please him procure another writt out of the Chancery directed to his Tenants commanding them to atturne and to take him for their Lord Now then in this platforme whereof mention hath been made touching the placing of a Parochiall Pastor any Parochiall Church with cure of soules being void when it is craved that the people of the same parish might intimate their want unto the Kings officer and that the same officer might command the Patron to present the Ministers to ordaine and the people according to the Kings lawes to assent unto and approve the Clerk what other intent or meaning have wee then that the King hath as ample and as lawfull a power The King hath as large a power to command a Minister to be elected and ordained as a Bishop to be chosen and consecrated to command a Minister to be presented ordained and elected to be a Pastor in a parochiall Church as he hath to command a Bishop to be elected confirmed and consecrated to an Episcopall sea And are we not then merveilously giddy-headed new fangled and strange innovators Againe when wee desire that the King at the humble suite of the Ministers the Patron and the people would be pleased to confirme and admit the Patrones Clerke in and to the temporalities of a Benefice what other thing is required but that the possession of no Church should be delivered unto any Minister without the Kings publike writt And would not this breed a perillous sturre garboyle discord and contention when the Archdeacons pretie signet as Dagon falling downe before the Arke should give place bow downe and doe reverence unto the Kings of England seale at armes The Prophets ought to be tried by the prophets Oh! but in this platforme there be other dangerous innovations and alterations not to be attempted Yea And what then be they The Admonitor himselfe in his admonition holdeth Yea Master Bilson and all other supporters of the Hierarchie defended That the Clergie ought to judge of the Clergie and that the Prophets ought to be tryed examined ordained only by the Prophets and that the â—piâ—its of the Prophets are subject to the spirits of the Prophets Wherein the coÌ„sisteth the disagreemeÌ„t variance between us them touching the ordination of a Prophet by Prophets or a Minister by Ministers certes to my understaÌ„ding there is no other matter of dissonancie in this case but even alonely this viz. That he by these words the Spirits of the Prophets are subject to the Prophets intendeth Corinth that the Spirits of many Prophets touching their triall examination and ordination are subject to the spirit of one Prophet and that therefore one Prophet by his owne spirit may trie examine and ordaine many Prophets Whereas on the other side we affirme that one Prophet according to this rule of our holy faith Whether the spirits of many Prophets subject to one or of one â—o many is to speake and the other Prophets are to judge and that no one Prophet may tâ—ie examine or ordaine many Prophets Because from this place we gather that the spirits of many Prophets in the ordinary course of the ministerie of the Word were never subjected in this case to the
company of him so excommunicated And for that cause also should excommunicate them as is here supposed lawfull to bee done were it not a cleare case that the body of that Church must now bee taken to consist only in the person of the Ordinarie and one member to become the whole body For if all under his jurisdiction were once excommunicated how could then any be in communion with him And if they all were once excommunicated must not the Ordinarie then alone be the common union and so make a communitie And what a deformed kind of excommunication then is that kinde of excommunication whereby it may fall out that to be one is to be many and that to be a Church a companie a societie and a fellowship is to be one of which nature and of which kind that manner of excommunication which by Pastours and Elders is to bee executed cannot be as hath already beene proved If then excommunication now used bee a deformed kind of discipline and therefore as we say to be no more tolerated and if excommunication by Pastours and Elders be a kinde of discipline for the inconvenience thereof as he saith not to be planted what manner of discipline by excommunication The Admonitor would have no excommunication at all would he have in these dayes trow we would hee have none at all verily I suppose none at all For so doe his words plainly insinuate by two reasons following First saith he the loosenesse of these dayes require discipline of sharper lawes by punishment of bodie and danger of goods which they do and will more feare than they will excommunication Secondly wee have saith he a good manner of discipline by the Ecclesiasticall commission which doth much good and would do more if it were more common But why did he not speake plainly and why did hee not affirme devoutly that discipline by excommunication was good where the Church was in persecution and that it is not necessarie nor so convenient under a Christian Magistrate as it may be otherwise For if Pastors and Elders were appointed joynt officers only for times of persecution and not to be under Christian Princes it followeth these joynt officers ceasing that all accessories appendices and consequences of their joynt offices must also cease unlesse it can be proved out of the holy Scriptures that the offices of Pastours ought still to continue and that the Offices of Elders ought not to continue because the offices of Elders with all their appendices have beene translated by our Saviour Christ unto Archbishops Bishops Archdeacons their Chancellours Commissaries and Officials For unlesse these Officers be Christs Officers the discipline which they use cannot bind the consciences of the people of God And for this cause is it very probable that he so commendeth discipline of sharper lawes and discipline by the Ecclesiasticall commission For if these officers by their discipline have not to do with the consciences of men then is it no marvaile that men feare not their discipline And therefore if they will be still officers it is requisite that they call for such a discipline as might cause men to stand in awe of their authoritie But were they indeed the officers of God and had they indeed the authoritie from God to execute discipline by excommunication as Pastours and Elders did in the Primitive Church then were the loosenesse of this age never so great yet that the children of God in England would more fear the losse of goods lands bodies or lives than the censure of Gods officers is one of the Admonitors paradoxes And here I appeale the consciences of all the reverend Bishops and Prelates in the land and let them answer me hardly if they judge themselves to bee the children of God and had seven times seven thousand lives whether they had not rather seven thousand times be committed to the Goaler of Winchester than once be delivered over to the Goaler of Hell And are not all the children of God in England their brethren And are they not all led by one and the selfe same spirit And how then can they lesse feare excommunication which is a deliverie of the soule to Sathan than the punishment of body and danger of goods And yet touching this point of Excommunication hee seemeth to be against himselfe for in the 137. page he telleth us that happily it may be a fault yea and a great fault that is found with the bishops in these dayes that they doe not excommunicate the Prince and Rulers and so constraine them to doe that which by perswasion they will not doe If then excommunication bee so terrible to Princes and Rulers how should it be of so light account with subjects And if it be so powerfull as it can constraine Princes and Rulers to doe their duties how much more fearefull would it bee to compell inferiours and men of low estate to live soberly in their vocations I will not here debate the matter touching rhe excommunication of Princes and Rulers much lesse touching the excommunication of the Prince and Rulers of our land But I would gladly be informed what they were or who they be that found great fault with the Bishops in these dayes for not endeavouring to excommunicate the Prince and Governours The Papists they thinke it sufficient that the Prince and Governours be excommunicated by the Pope and his Clergie The Ministers and people professing the Gospell and seeking for reformation of excommunication deny the Bishops to have any divine power granted by the Word of God to excommunicate a private man much lesse doe they thinke it lawfull for them to excommunicate the Prince and Rulers Who then I say find fault with the Bishopâ— that they do not excommunicate the Prince and Governours and so constraine them to do that which by perswasion they will not doe For my part I cannot ghesse whom he should meane unlesse he meant to give us to understand that some Prelatists have consulted about the excommunicating both Prince and Governors for not making sharper Lawes against such as whom the Prelates and their favourites have falsly slandered to be pestilent fellowes movers of sedition enemies to Caesar troublers and subverters of the state Act. 24. 5. Act. 1. 16. 20. 17. 6. Puritans and I wot not what chiefe maintainers of the sect of the disciplinarians unlesse I say he should mind some such Prelatists I can not ghesse any subjects within the land to bee so undutifull as to find fault with the Bishops for not attempting to bring our Late Soveraigne Lady the Queene deceased to their excommunication And therefore to enforme the people of an Author and not to bring him forth it argueth and breadeth great suspicion that Excommunication toucheth them onely which make profession to be of the Church the enformer was the Author himselfe Touching the loosenesse of some or of all in these dayes that are without the Church if hee intend that they require Discipline of sharper
Lawes by punishment of body and losse of goods than excommunication and that they will more feare that manner of punishment I hold and affirme therein as he holdeth and affirmeth and yet I say that to the matter in question hee hath fitted no other answer than as if hee had answered a poke full of plummes or a Buchet full of Peares for the controversie is not concerning those that are without but concerning those that are within not touching those that are not of the house-hold but touching them that are of the house-hold of faith and of God As for the first sort of which people the Reverend Bishops with good leave may procure what sharp punishment they can devise for by the Church excommunicated they should never bee For how should any be thrust from the communion of the Church who never were in the communion with the Church But it is to bee feared that this sharpnesse of punishment is not urged so much to be inflicted upon them that are without as upon them that are within the bosome of the Church For though such as bee without did a long time scorne and set naught by the sword of excommunication which was not onely drawne out by the Chancelours Commissaries and Officials for every crust of bread and for every piece of Bacon but also which was againe put up for every cracked grote and for every IRISH harper the Reverend Bishops whose freehold by such contempt was not touched were pacified and contented themselves well enough by inflcting and releasing that manner of punishment but now for so much as they perceive the Children within the Church to begin seriously and religiously to stand against the use of Lordly and humane censures for the Crown and Scepter of our Saviour Christ and that the statelinesse of Prelacy must be taken one hole lower if the simplicity of the holy ministery bee exalted a degree higher they pretend Discipline by excommunication which is the sword of the Son and heire of God to be too bluntly pointed and too badly edged to foyne or to strike withall Touching that very good manner of Discipline by the Ecclesiasticall commission which hee saith hath done and doth daily much good and would doe more if it were more common the people whom hee admonisheth have just cause of being desirous to understand what manner of Discipline it is which is so highly commended Not one manner of Discipline used by the Ecclesiasticall Commissioners For all men know that the Ecclesiasticall Commissioners use not in all places and at all times one and the selfe same manner of Discipline For the same Commissioners for the same kind of offences sometimes suspend sometimes deprive sometimes degrade sometimes excommunicate sometimes fine sometimes imprâ—son sometimes command this penance and sometimes that Nay sometimes having convented before them grave Learned and godly Ministers for crimes supposed to be Ecclesiasticall and for the same pretensed Ecclesiasticall offences having detained them some yeares in durance This Discipline was practised against Master Cart-Wright Fenner Whight L. Snape and others for refusall of the oath ex officio in the end not having any other supposed just cause of inflicting any punishment upon them by Ecclesiasticall authority have been forced for a shew to maintaine their own credits to cause accusations to be framed against them by the Queenes Atturney in the High Court of Star Chamber as against violators of the dignities of the Royall Crowne whose innocencies by the very witnesses produced by their meanes on the behalfe of the Queene have notwithstanding beene fully cleared from the faults objected and the Ministers discharged without any ordinary Ecclesiasticall Discipline used by the high Commissioners against M. Vdall punishment usually inflicted by that Court upon malefactors Nay further when the Ecclesiasticall Commissioners had committed Master Vdall to prison where he remained halfe a yeare for refusall of the oath ex officio touching his knowledge of the Author of a Book entituled The Demonstration in the end he was delivered over as a fel on for making of the same booke and for the which he was arraigned and convicted and so died in prison notwithstanding our Soveraigne Lord King Iames then King of Scotland had Gratiously written for his deliverance And how then would the Admonitor have the people contented with such a moderation of Ecclesiasticall discipline as the Ecclesiasticall Commissioners maâ—y times use For did he thinke that every manner of discipline used by the High Commissioners can not bee but a very good An oath tendered by the Ecclesiasticall Commission unto M. V. dall in case of Fellony moderatâ—on Why then let some of the Commissioners tell the people whether the Ecclesiasticall Commissioners used a very good moderation and manner of Discipline Ecclesiasticall against the same Master Vdall when they tendered unto him a corporall oath to have appeached himselfe upon a matter which was adjudged to be Felony or let them declare what a very good manner of discipline Ecclesiasticall certaine Ecclesiasticall Commissioners used when having a Gentleman before them wearing long haire they constrained the same Gentleman by force and strong hand to have his head notted in their presence The wearing of long haire by our Lawes being not reputed an Ecclesiasticall crime no although the same be worne by attendants upon the Reverend Bishops waiting on their Trenchers Or let them signifie unto us what a good manner of discipline and moderation it was for a Bishop and his associates to make an act in the High Commission Court repugnant to the Institution of our Saviour Christ and contrary to the order The Minister authorized to put sacramental bread into the mouth of a Communicant appointed by the Book of Common Prayer that the Minister should put the Sacramentall bread inro the mouth of a superstitious communicant and not deliver it into his haâ—ds After our hearty commendations saith the Bishop and his associates whereas I. V. one of your charge hath beene often convented before us Her Majesties Commissioners in causes Ecclesiasticall for not receiving the holy Communion it seemeth unto us that he hath not of any contemptuous minde refrained fâ—om the same but is willing to receive it and so hath bound himselfe saving that hee hath a scruple in his minde by reason of a fond vow or promise hee made long agoe whereof he is sorry never to receive the Sacrament into his hand but to put it into his mouth by the Minister And therefore wee pray you to beare a time with his weakenesse and permit him to receive it in that sort untill by your good counsell and perswasion he may be reduced from that fond scruple And so we bid you heartily farewell Your loving friends c. And seeing the Admonitor hath opposed a very good manner of Discipline by the Ecclesiasticall commission against excommunication it seemeth that excommunication in his judgement is no Master Excommunicated by the High Commissioners most
they joyntly should not execute the discipline of Christ viz. excommunication and other censures of the Church in every parish within his kingdome If it bee answered that in this case the Presbyter alone doth excommunicate is it not as if one should say that the executioner doth give judgement when at the commandement of the Judge he smiteth off the head or casteth downe the ladder or may not as much be said for the execution whereof we speak that the Pastor only should excommunicate when by vertue of his office with the consent and not by the prescript of the elders associated unto him he should declare and pronounce the partie to be excommunicated but let it be granted that Rowland Allen denounceth the lesson which is written in the paper for him to read yet it is cleare by the precept that the same must bee done by the prescript of Doctor Hone Besides Doctor Hone he citeth he precognizateth the parties and they being absent hee pronounceth them contumaciter absentes and in poenam contumaciarum suarum hujusmodi decreeth them to bee excommunicate and are not all these necessarie parts incident to the execution of discipline by excommunication And how then can the Minister bee said to excommunicate alone when Doctor Hone of necessitie must play three parts of the foure without all or without any one of which parts the excommunication by reason of a nullitie is meerely voide Againe the Act being done as it were uno puncto ac uno halitu and Rowland Allen and Doctor Hone having their commission from the Archdeacon in solidum how can their judgement be divided Furthermore to say that Rowland Allen doth excommunicate by the authoritie of Doctor Hone were to overthrow the intendment of the article Because by the scope of the article it is plaine that the presbyter to be associated to the officiall must only derive his authoritie from one who hath taken Ecclesiasticall orders But those orders Doctor Hone never tooke otherwise Rowland Allens presence had been unnecessarie and superfluous And therefore if the excommunication bee of any validitie then is discipline by excommunication in the Church of England exercised partly by our lay-Elder as they call him and partly by one Ecclesiasticall Elder wherein againe it is worthy the observation for the matter we have in hand that D. Hone a meere lay and temporall man hath authoritie from the Archdeacon to call and associate unto him and to prescribe R. Allen a Presbyter and an other mans hireling Curate in Southwarke to excommunicate not only the Parochians of an other Pastors charge but any other Pastour whatsoever subject to the Archdeacons jurisdiction And hath not the Kings highnesse then as good right as great a priviledge and as high a Prerogative to command Master Doctor Andros or Master Doctor King and lay Elders by a lawfull election to be associated unto either of them to excommunicate either of their owne parishioners for publike drunkennesse or other notorious sinnes committed in their owne parish For if it be lawfull at the voice of a lay stranger that an hireling and stipendarie Curate should chase an other mans sheep out of his owne fold how much more is it it lawfull that a true shepheaâ—d should disciplinate his owne sheepe feeding and couchant within his own pasture and within his owne fold Furthermore touching the admittance of governing Elders or lay Elders as they call them unto the Minister of every congregation according to the former pattern of one lay Elder that the same is not a matter so strange for lay men to bee joyned in this charge Lay men appointed by the Queenes injunctions to execute some part of discipline of ecclesiasticall government as the opposites beare us in hand to bee it shall not be amisse to call unto their remembrances one of our late Soveraigne the Queenes injunctions whereby certaine lay persons called overseers were commanded to be chosen by the ordinaries in every parish for the better retaining of the people in obedience unto divine service In every parish saith the Injunction three or foure discreet men which tender Gods glory and his true religion shall bee appointed by the Ordinaries diligently to see that all the parishioners duely resort unto their Church upon all Sundayes and holydayes and there to continue the whole time of the Godly Service And all such as shall be negligent in resorting to the Church having no great or urgent cause of absence they shall straightly call upon them and after due admonition if they amend not they shall denounce them to the Ordinarie Thus farre the injunction Which that it is not meant of the Church wardens appeareth by the very next article for unto them as is assigned an other name so also another office That sidemen also are not these kinde of overseers is plaine in that they be neither so many in number as are here required neither chosen by the Ordinaries neither yet doe they admonish and denounce according to this article Wherefore because it is meet that the effect of this injunction being religious should be put in due execution it seemeth a thing very reasonable and much tending to the honour of the King that his Highnesse under his letters patents would bee pleased to appoint three foure or more discreet and faithfull persons in every Parish not only to performe the effect of this article but also generally to oversee the life and manners of the people that without great and urgent causes they resort not unto Typling-houses or houses of evill note and suspected fame and that upon the Sabbaths they use no heathenish dancing about their disguised May-poles And after due admonition if they amend not to denounce them to the Pastor of the place For then might the Pastor Book of the form of ordeining Priests be encouraged to give his faithfull diligence as at the time of his ordination he solemnly promiseth unto the Bishop alwaies to Minister the Doctrine and Sacraments and Discipline of Christ as the Lord hath commanded by which words inserted it the booke there is a plaine and open confession made by all estates in Parliament that Christ hath not only established discipline but a certaine forme of discipline in his Church and that the pastour to whom Every Minister ought to minister the discipline of Christ in his owne cure by consent of Parliament the care and charge is committed to teach the people ought to minister the same discipline For it had beene a very absurd part for the Parliament to appoint the Bishop to receive a promise from the Ministers to minister the discipline of Christ if Christ had not instituted a discipline or that the same discipline which he instituted had not in their judgements belonged unto the Minister And therefore this very letter of the booke convinceth the whole answer made unto the abstract touching this point to be very erroneous frivolous and impertinent to the point in question For
be licensed and limited unto them to take doe and execute by any Archbishop or Bishop within their Diocesse to whom they shall be Suffraganes under their seales And that no such Suffragane shall use any jurisdiction ordinary or Episcopall power otherwise nor longer time than shall bee limited by such Commission to him given upon paine c. From which Act touching the use and exercise of Episcopall power and censures by the Suffragane wee may againe safely conclude that the EPISCOPALL power granted by the Bishops to be used by the Suffragane is not of divine right and institution but onely from humane device and ordinance For the Suffragan could not exercise any power called spirituall or Episcopall unlesse by the Bishop hee were nominated by the King elected and presented by the Archbishop consecrated and by commission under the Bishops seale authorized in what manner and for what time he should exercise the same Custom then being not from heaven but from the earth and again the Bishops Commission limiting the Suffraganes delegated power being of man and not of God it followeth necessarily that that Episcopall power which the Bishops use and exercise in England can not be divine but humane Because Episcopall authority which is divine being conveyed from the Royall and Soveraigne authority of our Saviour Christ the giver of all power unto every officer within his Ceurch cannot bee transferred to any other person by the same Bishop by the King by the body of the state or by custome For the Kings Person and body of the state nor being made capable by the holy Scriptures to use and exercise that Episcopall power which is of divine Institution can never transferre the same to others whereof they bee themselves uncapable And to defend that custome or any municipall Law should transfer divine Episcopall power from a divine B. to any human officer is more erroneous And from hence if the now L. Bish of London judge his Episcopall power to belong unto him by divine and that by the same right he have power as well to ordaine depose suspend and excommunicate Presbyters as to confirme boyes girles young men and maidens there seemeth to bee good reason that the same B. should make it apparently knowne unto the King and Realme by what power or commission descended from heaven hee may delegate under his Seale the same his divine authority of ordination deposition suspension excommunication and confirmation unto Doctor Sterne his now Suffragane of Colchester For if from the holy Scriptures hee can produce no warrant for the making of a delegation of any part of that Episcopall power which hee holdeth to bee committed unto him from our Saviour Christ then well may we conclude against the oâ—dination deposition suspension excommunication and confirmation made by the same his Suffragame that the same his Suffraganes ordination deposition c. is not divine For how can an ordination a deposition c. made by a Suffragane be divine when as the Commission granted by the Bishop is meerely humane Wherefore seeing the Bishop himselfe hath plucked certaine of his principall feathers from his own spirituall wings if so be his own wings may be spirituall and imped them with an untwysted thread of humane policy to the humane trayne of his Suffragane and seeing also his Archbishops grace of Canterbury in cases of his metropoliticall prerogative the Archdeacons London Midlesex Essex Hertford the Deane of Pauls and certaine Prebendaries in Pauls the Deane of Westminster the Master of the Savoy and diverse other Persons have by Papall priviledges or by ancient custome prescribed almost all other parts of his Episcopall power there seemeth good reason that the Bishop should againe declare whether the Churches within the said Diocesse after the decease or translation of his Lordship shall stand in need of any Lordly Successor to sit in the same Sea for any other profitable use or purpose than only for wearing of a white rochet walking with a pastorall staffe keeping seven yeares Sabboth from preaching in his Parish Church at Fulham consecrating of Chappels hallowing of Fontes Christening as they call it of Belles whiting of Walles painting of Tombes garnishing of Sepulchers preserving of superstitious Monuments in glasse Windowes repairing and gilding rotten and outworne Crosses confirming Leases of Benefices with cure of soules upon small rents improprying Churches or such like For if the great things of the Episcopall power may bee transferred either by expresse or by secret consent either by commission or custome and that as well to an inferiour as to a superior as well to a Suffragrane a Deane an Archdeacon and a Prebendary as to an Archb. then it seemeth reasonable that the smaller things before spoken of may well be performed without any Lordly authority When I had thus finished according to our line that which I first undertooke against the Admonitors pre ensed dangerous alterations innovations and inconveniences and was also purposed to have added that which in mine opinion seemeth to prove that which the Admonitor by his opinion denyeth viz. that the externall government of the Church should alwayes and in all places be one when I say I had thus purposed by reason of some other present and for the time more necessary occasion I was driven to alter my minde and to shew the same in a place somewhat more convenient And yet in the meane while it shall not be amisse but a thing very necessary in this place so to cleare the state of the question betweene the Admonitor and me as the same being rightly before hand understood there might no prejudicate opinion be conceived against the truth The Admonitor against the not having one forme of externall policy in all ages and states of the Chutch of Christ alleadgeth that in Denmarke they have Bishops both in name and in office that in Saxony thâ—y have Arcbishops and Bishops iâ— office but not in name that in Tigure they have no Senate of Elders nor the discipline by excommunication which they more mislike that in Geneva in Scotland and in other places they have a government not much unlike that platforme which is desired to be among us that in Saxony and Basil they kneele at the Lords Supper all Tigure they sit and it is brought unto them and that in other places they goe and receive it for the more expedition as they passe And that he doubteth not but that the learned men whom God sent to instruct those Churches in which the Gospell in those dayes was first received have bin directed by the spirit of God to retaine this liberty that in externall government and other outward orders they might choose such as they thought in wisdome and godlinesse to be most convenient for the state of their Countrey and disposition of the people Vnto all which wee answer briefly viz. that Bishops both in name and in office being of divine institution ought as well to be in the Church of England as of Denmarke
AN ASSERTION FOR True and Christian CHURCH-POLICIE Wherein Certain Politike Objections made against the planting of PASTOURS and Elders in every Congregation are sufficiently ANSWERED And Wherein also sundry projects are set downe how the Discipline by Pastors and Elders may be planted without any derogation to the Kings Royall Prerogative any indignity to the three Estates in Parliament or any greater alteration of the laudable Lawes Statutes or Customes of the Realme than may well bee made without damage to the people IN DOMINO CONFIDO London Printed 1642. To the Right Honourable the LORDS and COMMONS Assembled in High COURT of Parliament Right HONOURABLE c. THe Ensuing Treatise which I am bold to present to Your wisedomes view containes principall politicall reasons grounded upon the Lawes of this Kingdom for the removing of the present Hierarchie and planting of a Governement by Pastors and Elders The appellation of Lay Elders hath beene very displeasing to many whereas the Elder intended to be planted is not lay but in regard of the service wherein hee is to bee imployed Ecclesiasticall The Author was an elaborate Student in the civill Law and a professor of it He was esteemed learned by the best of that profession as also by Divines and common Lawyers learned Sir Edward Cook late Chiefe Justice of the Kings Bench Sir Christopher Yelverton late Judge of the Common Pleas Sir Henry Finch late the Kings Serjeant at Law and others have given testimony of him The Treatise is an answer to diverse passages in a Book written by D. Whitgift late Archb. of Canterbury intituled An admonition to the Parliament The Author as I doubt not but will appeare to your Wisedomes hath written with the spirit of meekenesse and humility submitting all to the judgement of an High Court of Parliament hee disputes with the Great Bishop in a Scholasticall way without one syllable of reviling or bitter language which he ever detested Hee discovers the foundation of the Hierarchie to be totally illegall and to bee abolished by the abolition of the Papall Canon Law which appeares to be abolished by the statute of 25. of Henry 8. cap. 9. The truth whereof being discovered by the Authors means to the said learned Judge Sir Edward Cooke hee did most ingenuously acknowledge and did avow he never understood the statute so well before yet affirmed he thought he had read the said statute an hundred times May it please you in your wisedomes to commend the Treatise to bee viewed by the learned Gent. of the long Robe whose awfull judgments I shall ever honour Most true it is I dare averre there is little written in this Kingdome tending to the removall of the Episcopacie from Legall and Politicall arguments but the Author hath the arrowes in his quiver I say not that others have borrowed light from his Candle Right Honourable and Right worthy I shall humbly take further boldnes humbly presuming upon your Honourable favours if this poore model find acceptance in your sight to present you with a new impression of an abstract written in time of famous Queene Elizabeth a Book well knowne to learned King Iames by the same Author whose memory I am bound by nature to Honour Give mee leave onely now to make knowne unto you the Title and severall Treatises contained in it It is intituled An abstract of certaine Laws Canons and Constitutions Synodall and Provinciall in force within the Queenes dominions and for the most part unknowne to the subject It containeth these principall Treatises 1. That a learned Ministery is commanded by Law 2. That Pluralities are forbidden by Law 3. That it is unlawfull to make a Minister without a title 4. That it is unlawfull for a Clerk to have civill authority This abstract was seemingly answered by the rayling stile of a then Doctor Cozens but by a further incounter and the counterpoyson yet extant written by the same Author he departed the Field with Honour such was the opinion of many learned among others of the foresaid Reverend Judge Sir Henry Yelverton This treatise was never questioned nor quarreld for ought I ever heard Yet was the Author well knowne to many of the Bishops You may happily in your Wisdomes conceive some things might have beene omitted as not wholly incident to the time and some abbreviated in regard of the shortnesse of your time and of the high affaires now in hand But may it please you being about so to doe I found the light must have bin much Eclipsed and the truth obscured I am over bold most humbly to commend the defence of what he writes grounded upon the laws of the Kingdome to your most Honourable protection It shall be enough for me to attend among the meanest of your servants having heretofore had the happinesse to have bin a member though unworthy of the Honourable House of Commons Presenting your honours and your grave wisdomes with my heartiest prayers and humblest service In most humble manner I intreate your pardon of and for The Contents THe defenders of the Hierarchy confesse their government is not apostolicall pag. 2. The bringing in of the discipline desired causeth no alteration of temporall laws nor the officers of a kingdom 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 No feare that prophane men will overthrow the Gospell if the forme of Church government be altered 10. The description of lukewarme professors that will be of that religion the King will be of 11. The Puritan protestants can never overthrow the Gospell 13. Neither can the Papist because he is overthrown by the Gospel 13 The planting of an Apostolicall government will draw no alteration of the Lawes of the Realme 14. The whole Papal Law is totally abolished by the statute of the 25 of Henry 8. c. 19. of the submission of the Clergie as appeares by the body of the statute and the proviso from the 15. to the 20. Canon and civill Lawes no part of the Lawes of the Realme but by sufferance 15 An imbasement for Civillians to have preferment by the offices of the Canon Law that ought not to be used 17 18 19. Whence it followeth that the papall Canon Law being abolished the papall offices and functions of Archbishops and Bishops are also abolished being grounded upon the same Law 20 Power properly and improperly called spirituall 20 21 Bishops remaine ordinary by custome provinciall Canons and statute Law though papall lawes be abolished 21 The King though Supreame governour of the Church cannot give Archbishops and Bishops spirituall power properly called spirituall that power must be derived from the Scripture 20. The Bishops did use a plenary power devised and promulged new Canons without the Queenes assent 23 All the Bishops together can make no new Law and yet every Bishop doth make many lawes 24 All temporall officers do draw their power from the King one way or other 25 The Charter of England confirmeth not the power of Archbishops or Bishops because their power appeares not by the
Scripture to be given them by God and therefore the King and Parliament may be pleased to abolish both them and their power as King Hen. 8. did abolish Monkes and Friars 26. 40. and 28 The challeng for Lordly primacy out of the great charter answered 28 The study of the civill Law and the professors of it may florish more than now they doe 28 Fees for probate of testaments let to farme 29 Fees dew for execution of functions of the Canon Law disproportionable for a Dâ—ctor of the Civill Law 30 An Act of Parliament for the advancement of the Civill Law is set downe and a forme laid for all proceedings in the Courts in which the Civill Lawyers should be Iudges 32 33 It will advance the honour of the King and the good of his subjects to have matters of tithes and testaments and matrimony reduced by act of Parliament to bee tried by the Iudges of the Common Law 37 Matters of tithes and other causes of light nature pertaine to civill justice 37 The temporall law may easily bee applyed to causes now reputed Ecclesiasticall 39 How legacies may be recovered at the Common Law 42 Matters of marriages more fit to bee decided by the Kings officers than by the Bishops 43 Much adâ—e in the Bishops Courts about Accipio and Accipiam 44 The common Law preferred by the Bishops above the Law of God and the civill Law 45 Causes of Adulteries Slander Heresie which by sufferance only have bin exempted from the Cognizance of the King may be arbitrated by the Iudges of the common Law 47 Hierarchy may be judged felony if it please the King 49 The cognizance of all crimes as well as of some by the Law of God belong to the King 50 No impeachment and impropriations in lay mens hands the stat of 15. Rich. 2. and the 4. Hen. 4. being observed for a Vicar endowes yet if it please the King Parliament a law may be made for reducing of impropriations which may bee done First by restitution Secondly by commutation Thirdly by redemption Fourthly by contribution 52 Parochiall Churches to what use they were founded 56 First restitution of many may and ought to be which are now accounted the temporall revenues of Archbishops and Bishops which were given to severall Churches are now spoyled of them by Archbishops and Bishops 55 56 57 58. Secondly commutations may be made of many of the Bishops lands given to superstitious uses for many impropriations in the Kings hand and the hands of many of the Nobility 56 58 59 Thirdly there may bee a redemption made of the same land or buying in of many impropriations by a common purse or treasury which will increase 1. When the people shall be discharged of the burden of Ecclesiasticall Courts 2. The treasure will increase by the dissolution of Chapels of ease and uniting two Parishes into one and especially in great Cities and Towns where often are but small Livings 61 Dissolution of Chapels no new thing Ibid. Chapels the Seminaries of hirelings 62 3. By sequestration of the Livings of non residents 4. By the forfeiture of penall Lawes due to the King 60 61 62 63 Sequestration of the Churches of pluralists may further the treasure for redemption of impropriations 63 By what contributions Impropriations may bee brought to the use of the ministery 63 Fourthly the fourth meanes viz by contribution wherby Impropriations may be reduced to the ministery 63 64 65 How and by what means impropriations may be reduced into the ministery 65 66 None of the three estates in Parliament is lost by removall of the Hierarchy as appeares by severall statutes viz. 25. E. 3. c. 24. 31. Ed. 3. Stat. of Herrings 3. R. 2. c. 3. 7. R. 2. c. 12. 1. E. c. 2. 68 69 70 71 72 73 The state of Prelacy founded by the Grandfather of K. E. 3. 69 The K. having the assent of the Nobles and Commons may repeale statutes without the assent of the Prelates 70 The argument answered in which it is said that it hath been alwayes dangerous to pick quarrels against laws setled 74 75 Lesse danger to reforme the Church by new lawes than to continue corruption by old lawes 74 That argument answered in which it is said that there must of necessity be in every Parish one Pastor a company of Seniors and Deacon or two at the least and all those to be found of the Parish 75 76 77 78 What kind of men ought to be chosen Seniors and Deacons 76 The judgment of the Commissioners of Ed. 6. touching Elders and Deacons 77 The election of Pastors by the people stands upon the ground of reason and nature rules of Christian equity and the law of God therefore by no Law or custome can justly be taken away though actually it was by the Pope 79 to 87 Dangerous to innovate unlesse there be evident utility in innovation 80 The common manner of election in the old Churches was by the people 81 The King without the people hath power to nominate the Kingly Bishop 82 M. Bilson confirmes the peoples election of their Pastor 83 A great difference betwixt the choice of Bishops in England and Pastors 86 No Schisme hapned by choice of Pastors by the people ancient schimes were ever from the election of Bishops 87 88 therefore a Stat. is desired for the giving of election of their Pastors 86 Election of publike officers in Cities and Boroughs is by the principall men of these places 90 91. therefore Ministers may bee elected the officers of Cities and Townes Corporate chosen without contention therefore Pastors may be also chosen 90 The people would be more carefull of their Election than Bishops have been the people could make no choice of insufficient Ministers unles the Bishops did make insufficient Ministers 93 94 The common people accused of backwardnesse in Religion the reason of that must needs be from their ill guides 95 Men of excellent gifts and men of no gifts are unequally matched in the ministery of the Gospell 96 The people may know a man to be a fit Minister though he be not brought up among them 98 What knowledge of a Minister is required in the people before they choose him No partiall suits can follow the election of Ministers by the people 100 The means to take away all symony for places in the Ministry 100 The inconveniences of Bishops ordination set downe 102 As many suits betweene the Bish and the Clerke 2. suits between the Clerke and the Archdeacon 3. suits betweene the B. and the Archdeacon 4. Riots and breaches of the Kings peace 5. unlawfull Fees for Letters of institution 6. unlawfull Fees for letters of sequestration 105. 7. Perjury by the Clerk and robbery by the Patron 8. Chopping of benefices and dispensations 106. A supplication to the Parliament to consider these inconveniences and likewise a briefe way is set downe of the redresse of them 107 Diverse things set down concerning ordination of Ministers
108 How a Minister ought to be called to a place of his examination and approbation by Ministers and the Parish and of his ordination and actuall calling to a place 108 This way laid down before is no such innovation as is pretended it being agreeable to the ancient Lawes of the Land 100 The spirit of the Prophets are subject to the Prophets how to be 112 What is to be done if suit fall out betwixt two Patrons 113 Patrons not so strictly curbed is pretended 114 Prophets to be taken from the Schooles of the Prophets upon difference in judgment of the abilities of men what then to be done 114 Concerning refusall upon non abilitie 116 The benefits insuing the platforme of ordination and required 117 118 What perfection is required in a Minister 120 Prelacy and a learned Ministery cannot stand together 120 That objection answered that the reward of learning being taken away learning it selfe must needs fall to the ground 121 Prelacy the bane of learned Ministers 122 That argument answered concerning the drawing of Schollers out of the Vniversities before they are fit 123 124 The argument concerning excommunication answered by whom excommunication ought to be performed 125 126 127 what it is 128 The inconvenience of the Bishops excommunication 129 It hath many deformities 130 By the Bishops excommunication one may be a communite 130 Excommunication toucheth them only who professe themselves members of the Church 133 The different manner of discipline exercised by Ecclesiasticall Commissioners severall instances in diverse persons set down 134 135 136 The Articles objected by her Majesties High Commissioners for causes Ecclesiasticall against G. B. of B. and F. B. of B. in the County of L. with observations on the Bishops proceedings 1637. 138 139 140 141. with a Copy of the Arch-bishops Letter and answer from the Bishop to that Letter The Argument concerning the bringing in of Aristocracy into the Church answered 143 Prelacy either oligarchie or tyrannīe 144 It is to be feared lest by the examples of the Prelates Oligarchie be brought into the Common-Wealth and therefore a caution is put in against it 145 The government of the Church by Prelates is not Monarchicall 145 If it be so then the government by Pastors may be so too 145 No cause for the Monarch to feare Aristocracy in Church government 147 Pastors disclaime to meddle in civill matters 147 The people of England are rather possessed with the sense of Democracy and Aristocracy 148 The manner of Policy by Pastors and Elders in the Church is agreeable to the government in the Common-wealth but the government by Prelacy is disagreeable 149 The answer of an Italian Bishop being asked vis ne Episcopari And the answer of an English Bishop having obtained his Congedelier 149 150 The manner of administration of justice spirituall in the Church by Prelacy 150 The administration of Iustice spirituall by Pastors and Elders agreeable to the execution of civill justice in the Common-weale 151 No matters of justice civil administred by one alone in the Common-wealth 150 152. Severall ordinances set downe in severall Courts how they proceed 152 153 154. The Government of the Church ought not to bee by one alone 155 156. Severall ordinances thereof in the same pages No exception to bee taken against Lay Elders to be authorized by the King in every Parish since the King authorizeth Lay Elders in Ecclesiasticall commission 157 Discipline of excommunication exercised by one Lay Elder and one Ecclesiasticall Elder an instance of this discipline set downe 157 158 The King hath as good right to command excommunication to be exercised by a Pastor and Elders as the Bishops have to commit the same to a Curate and one Lay Elder 159 Lay men appointed by the Queenes injunctions to execute some part of discipline 160 Every Minister ought to minister the discipline of Christ in his owne cure by consent of Parliament 161 The Minister by promise bindeth himselfe to minister the discipline of Christ 162 The not disposing in particularity all rites and ceremonies of discipline doth not hinder the exercise of discipline by the Minister 163 To what persons the discipline of Christ by Scripture is committed and whether the persons be arbitrable or no 164 165 A Bishop Pastor and Elder and our L. Bishop differ 165. and what a L. Bishop is No Lord Bishop called L. Pastor Pastorall authority of a L. Bishop and of other Pastours is equall 166 Whether a L. Bishop minister the doctrine Sacraments and Discipline of Christ by vertue of his Lordly Episcopall or Pastorall office 166 Lordly Episcopality authorized only by the Realme 167 If the L. Bishop have power to minister Discipline by divine right then no more can hee commit that his power to an other than hee can commit the power which he hath of preaching to another 168 Whether L. Bishops by Pastorall Authority may excommunicate a Pastour 169. Pastors over small Flocks are as truly Pastors as Pastors over great Flocks 169. As great parity between Pastors and Pastors as between Apostles and Apostles 169 Not onely Kings of great kingdomes but also Kings of small kingdomes bee true Kings 170. Rurall Deanes in Cheshire c. use some part of Episcopall power 171 Episcopall power to excommunicate granted by papall priviledges or prescribed Vse 171. Power to excommunicate if it be of divine right may not bee prescribed 171. No more preheminence given to a Bishop than to a Minister or to a Lay-man in some places for the use of Excommunication 172 AN ASSERTION FOR True and Christian Church-Policie Wherein certaine politike Objections made against the planting of Pastors and Elders in every Congregation are sufficiently answered And wherein also sundry projects are set downe how the Discipline by Pastours and Elders may be planted without any derogation to the KINGS Royall Prerogative c. ADMONITION THE reason that moveth us not to like of this Pag. 79. platform of Government is that when we on the one part consider the things that are required to be redressed and on the other the state of our Countrey People and Common weale we see evidently that to plant those things in this Church will draw with it so many and so great alterations of the state of Government and of the Lawes as the attempting thereof might bring rather the overthrow of the Gospell among us than the end that is desired ASSERTION THe benefit of all exceptions and advantages to the invaliditie uncertaintie imperfections and insufficiency of this admonitory bill and matters therein contained alwayes saved for answere to so much as concerneth this clause and every other clause and article of the bill hereafter following and without that that there is any matter or thing in the same bill of admonition materiall to be answered unto and not herein or hereby sufficiently answered confessed and avoided traversed and deemed is true in such manner and forme as in the same is set forth and declared
the defendant is ready to aver maintaine and prove his answer as shall please the King to award and to command And therefore he most humbly beseecheth the King if it please the King and that hee have found favour in his sight that his exceptions may be admitted and read and that his counsell learned in the law may be heard and suffered to speake This platforme of government intended by the admonitor not to be liked of in this place is that platforme of Church government Booke of Com. Pray tit Commination Homil. 2. part of the right use of the Church Admo pag. Whitgift p. 654. M. Nowell in his Cate. M. Calvin M. Iunius Looke Peti to her excellent Majestie p. 11. by Pastours and Elders which the Booke of Common Prayer the Doctrine of the Church of England doe highly command and which he himselfe Master D. Whitgift now Lord Archbishop of Canterbury and very many other c reverend Divines of our age doe publikely confesse in their writings to have beene practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church From whence it followeth that the government of the Church by Archbishops Bishops Suffraganes Archdeacons Deacons Chancellours Commissaries and Officialls now already planted and liked of was not practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church And therefore for my part I cannot but marvell that a disciple of the Apostles Doctrine and a successor in the Apostles Chaire should be drawne to humane reasons not to like of the Apostles government nor to tread in the steps of the Primitive Church For seeing the same is acknowledged by himself to be the first ways to be the old and ancient way as being the Apostles way why Ier. 6. 16. should we not walke therein as in the only good and perfect way The reverend Bishops will not deny that the Apostles and Primitive Church for their manner of governement had the mind of Christ and that we should follow the Apostles as having them for examples because they were the followers of Christ Againe they cannot but grant that the manner of governement practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church is written within the booke of the covenants of grace All which notwithstanding we see in this place that from the new Testament from the Articles of grace from the law from the testimonie from the example of the Apostles and from the mind of Christ we are addressed and turned over to our state of government to our countrey to our people to our Common weale and to our Lawes But this turning of devises shall it not bee esteemed as the Potters clay Isa 29. 16. But saith he to plant those things in this Church which are required to be redressed might bring rather the overthrow of the Gospell than the end that is desired Indeed say I if this might be as soone proved as it was soone said the case might have gone well with him But this parable is so darke that unlesse it be opened there is no light at all to be seene in it For he well knew that in stead of the government practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church the jurisdiction of Archbishops Bishops Suffragans Deacons Archdeacons Chancellors Commissaries and Officials is already planted in this Church And he was not ignorant also that the same jurisdiction only and none other is required to be redressed Now then if request be made that this manner of governement be redressed how can it evidently bee seene that to plant that manner of government might bring rather the overthrow of the Gospell than the end that is desired But it may be that he meant more lightsomely than he spake Yea let it be that he intended thus viz. to unplant that which is now planted and to plant those things which are yet unplanted by reason of many and great alterations might bring rather an overthrow of the Gospell than the end that is desired well I say be it so that he thus meant How is this thing evidently seene or how can it evidently be proved The best sight that the servant of Christ can have is faith For Faith is an evidence of things which are not seene This overthrow Heb. 11. then of the Gospell not being seene with his bodily eyes must needs be intended to have beene seene with the eyes of his faith But where is the word of Christ whereupon the eyes of his faith were fixed If then he hold no word of faith then of necessitie was his evident sight but an evident fancy And in deed what else could it be For what other thing is there desired to bee planted in this Church but only the Apostolicall government of Christ And what other Gospell could hee evidently see that might bee overthrowne by holding forth this scepter but only the Apostolicall doctrine of Christ A marvellous strange and unkinde sight I trow to be seene that the Apostolicall Governement could no sooner bee planted but that the Apostolicall doctrine must needs be rooted up That Christ by his owne scepter were not able to maintaine his owne grace by his owne order should weaken his owne oath or by his owne sword should cut from the people of God his owne Word But seeing it was his purpose to perswade the people unto a dislike of the Apostolicall government by arguments and reasons drawne from humane policie rather than to confirme them in a good opinion of the Prelaticall Government by proofes taken from the authoritie of holy Scripture we will follow him in this his veine Yea and by the help of God we will try of what efficacy such his politike and humane reasons may be as wherewith he did assay to disswade the people from consenting unto any other manner of Church Government than is already setled among us The generall effect of all which both here and else where spoken of by him briefly gathered is this Such things may not be planâ—ed in the Church of England as by attempting the planting whereof there is an evident sight that the Gospell among us may be overthrowne But there is an evident sight that the Gospell among us may be overthrown by attempting to plant that Government in the Church of England which was practised by the Apostles and the Primitive Church Therefore that manner of Governement may not be planted The assumption of which sillogisme hee endeavoureth to confirme thus whatsoever will draw with it many and great alterations of the state of Government and of the lawes the same may bring rather the overthrow of the Gospell than the end that is desired but the planting of the Governement practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church will draw with it many and great alterations of the state of Government and of the lawes Therefore the planting of this manner of government may rather bring an overthrow of the Gospell c. If any shall object that by thus gathering his argument I had in this place falsified his argument by adding more than is here
regall Crown nay because the contradictorie hereof is affirmed and this denyed and because we learn by law as he saith that matters in fact are not intended to be done till they be proved so we must still put the upholders and executioners of this law to their proofe and in the meane while tell them that the forraigne and Papall Law is but a pretended necessary and disused law that it is not inspired with the life of Law and that it is fathered by them to be such a Law as is an headlesse a fetherlesse and a nocklesse arrow which is not fit to be drawne or shot against any subject of the King And from this voidance abolition and nullitie of forraigne and papall Canon Law because sublato principali tolluntur accessoria it followeth that all offices and functions of papall Archbishops papall Bishops papall Suffraganes papall Archdeacons papall Deanes and Chapters papall Priests papall Deacons papall Subdeacons papall Chancellors papall Vicars generall papall Commissaries and papall Officials meerely depending upon the authoritie and drawne from the rules and grounds of that Law are likewise adnihilated and of no value Howbeit for so much as by the opinion of some learned Civilians By the opinion of the Civilians the papall Canon law seemeth to be in force there seemeth unto them a necessary continuance of the same forraigne and papall Law by reason that Archbishops and Bishops doe now lawfully as they say use ordinarie Archiepiscopall and Episcopall jurisdiction which they could not as they thinke doe if the same common law were utterly abolished and for so much also as some learned in the Canon lawes do maintaine that since the statute Apology of certain proceedings in Courts Ecclesiastical of 1 Eliz. c. 1. the Archbishop and Bishop cannot lawfully claim any ordinarie spirituall jurisdiction at all but that the spirituall jurisdiction to be exercised by them ought to bee delegated unto them from the King by a Commission under the great Seale Forasmuch I say as there are these differences of opinions it seemeth expedient to be considered by what law and by what authoritie Archbishops and Bishops exercise Archiepiscopall and Episcopall power in the Church And to the end this question may fully bee knowne and no scruple nor ambiguitie be left what power spirituall may be intended Power properly and improperly called spirituall Queens Injunct and execut of justice to be exercised by them We distinguish spirituall power into a power properly called spirituall and into a power improperly or abusively called spirituall Ther power properly called spirituall is that spirituall power which consisteth and is conversant in preaching the Word administring the Sacraments ordaining and deposing Ministers excommunicating or absolving and if there bee any other spirituall power of the like property and nature Now that this power properly called Power properly called spirituall was never in the Queenes person spirituall could have beene drawne from the person of our late Soveraigne Lady the Queene unto Archbishops and Bishops we deny For the Queenes Royall person being never capable of any part of this spirituall power how could the same bee derived from her person unto them Nemo potest plus juris in alium transferre quam ipse habet Archiepiscopall and Episcopall power therefore exercised in and about these mysteries of our holy Religion ordinarily and necessarily must belong unto the Archbishop and Bishop by the canon of the holy Scriptures otherwise they have no power properly called Power improperly called spirituall is indeed but a temporall power spirituall touching these things at all The power which improperly is called spirituall is such a power as respecteth not the exercise of any pastorall or ministeriall Church to the internall begetting of faith or reforming of manners in the soule of man but is such a power as wherby publike peace equitie and justice is preserved and maintained in externall things peculiarly appropried and appertaining unto the persons or affaires of the Church which power indeed is properly a temporall or civill power and is to bee exercised onely by the authoritie of Temporall and Civill Magistrates Now then to returne to the state of the point in Question touching this later power improperly called spirituall by what law or by what authoritie the Archbishops and Bishops doe exercise this kinde of power in the Church I answer that they cannot have the same from any forraigne Canon Law because the same Law with all the powers and dependences thereof is adnulled And therefore that this their power must and ought to be derived unto them from Bb. where From whence then is their power derived Hereunto we answer that before the making of that act spirituall jurisdiction did appertaine unto Bishops and that Bishops were ordinaries aswell by custome of the Realme canons constitutions and ordinances provincial and synodall as by forraigne canon law And that therefore these canons constitutions and ordinances provinciall or synodall according to Bishops remaine ordinaries by custome provinciall Canons statute law though papall Canon law be abolished 25. h. 8. c 20. 25. h 8. c â—6 the true intent of that act could not still have been used and executed as they were before if the Bishops had not still remained ordinaries Moreover it is cleare by two statutes that the Archbishops and Bishops ought to be obeyed in all manner of things according to the name title degree and dignitie that they shall be chosen or presented unto and that they may doe and execute minister use and exercise all and every thing and things touching or pertaining to the office or order of an Archbishop or Bishop with all ensignes tokens and ceremonies thereunto lawfully belonging as any Archbishop or Bishop might at any time heretofore do without offending of the prerogative royall of the Crown and the laws and customes of this Realm Let it be then that by custome canons provinciall and statute law Bishops be and do remaine ordinaries yet aswell upon those words of the statute 25. H 8. without offending of the prerogative Royall as upon the statute of 1. Eliz. cap. 1 there remaineth a scruple and ambiguitie whether it be not hurtfull or derogatorie unto the Kings Prerogative Royall that Ordinaries should use and exercise their ordinarie power improperly called spirituall without a commission under the great Seale or that such their power should be as immoderate and excessive now as in times past it was by the Papall Canon law Concerning the first by the Statute of 1 Eliz. c. 1. and by the Statute of 8 Eliz. c. 1. the Queene was recognized to be in effect the Ordinarie of Ordinaries The Queen was supreme ordinary of ordination that is the chief supreme and soveraign Ordinary over all persons in all causes aswell Ecclesiasticall as Temporall Where it seemeth to follow that all the branches and streams aswell of that power which improperly is called spiritual as of that power which properly is called
immediately from your highnesse by and under your Highnesse letters patents And whereas also by a statute made in the first yeare of King Edward the sixth entituled an Act what seales and stile Bishops or other spirituall persons shall use it was ordained that all and singular Archbishops and Bishops and others exercising Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction should in their processe use the Kings name and stile and not their owne and also that their Seales should be graved with the Kings arms And forasmuch also as it must be highly derogatorie to the imperiall Crowne of this your Highnesse Realme that any cause whatsoever Ecclesiasticall or temporall within these your Highnesse Dominions should bee heard or adjudged without warrant or commission from your Highnesse your heires and successors or not in the name stile and dignity of your Highnesse your heires and successors or that any seals should be annexed to any promise but onely your Kingly seale and armes May it therefore please the King at the humble supplication of his Commons to have it enacted That the foresaid branch of the foresaid Act made in the first yeare of Queene Elizabeth her raigne and every part thereof may still remaine and for ever bee in force And to theend the true intent and meaning of the said statute made in the first year of K. Edw. the sixth may be declared and revived that likewise by the authoritie aforesaid it may be ordained and enacted that all and singular Ecclesiasticall Courts and Consistories belonging to any Archbishops Bishops Suffraganes College Deane and Chapter Prebendarie or to any Ecclesiasticall person or persons whatsoever and which have heretofore beene commonly called reputed taken or knowne to be Courts or Consistories for causes of instance or wherein any suite complaint or action betweene partie and partie for any matter or cause wherein judgement of law civill or Canon hath beene or is required shall and may for ever hereafter be reputed taken and adjudged to be Courts and judgement seates meerely Civill secular and temporall and not henceforth Ecclesiasticall or Spirituall and as of right belonging and appertaining to the Royall Crowne and dignitie of our Soveraigne Lord King James that now is his heires and successors for ever And that all causes of instance and controversies betweene partie and partie at this day determinable in any of the said Courts heretofore taken and reputed Ecclesiasticall shall for ever hereafter bee taken reputed and adjudged to be causes meerly Civill secular and temporall as in truth they ought to bee and of right are belonging and appertaining to the jurisdiction of the Imperiall crown of this Realme And further that your Highnesse Leige people may bee the better kept in awe by some authorized to bee your Highnesse Officers and Ministers to execute justice in your Highnes name and under your Highnesse stile and title of King of England Scotland France and Ireland defender of the Faith c. in the said Courts and Consistories and in the said causes and controversies Be it therefore enacted by the authorities aforesaid That all the right title and interest of in and to the said Courts and Consistories and in and to the causes and controversies aforesaid by any power jurisdiction or authoritie heretofore reputed Ecclesiasticall but by this Act adjudged civill secular and temporall shall for ever hereafter actually and really be invested and appropried in and to the Royall person of our Soveraigne Lord the King that now is his heires and successors Kings and Queenes of this Realme And that it shall and may be lawfull to and for our said Soveraigne Lord and King his heires and successors in all and every Shire and Shires Diocesse and Diocesses within his Highnesse Dominions and Countries by his and their letters patents under the great Seale of England from time to time and at all times to nominate and appoint one or moe able and sufficient Doctor or Doctors learned in the Civill Law to bee his and their civill secular and temporall Officer and Officers Minister and Ministers of justice in the same civill secular and temporall Courts and Consistories which in and over his and their royall name stile and dignitie shall as Judge and Judges doe performe and execute all and every such act and acts thing and things whatsoever in and about the execution of justice and equitie in those Courts according to the course and order of the civill Law or the Ecclesiasticall canons and constitutions of the Realme as heretofore hath beene used and accustomed to bee done by for or in the name of any Archbishops Bishops Colledge Cathedrall Church Deane Archdeacon Prebendary or any other Ecclesiasticall person or persons whatsoever And that all and every such civill secular and temporall Officer and Officers Minister and Ministers Judge and Judges in his and their processe shall use one manner of Seal only and none other having graved decently therin your Kingly armes with certaine characters for the knowledge of the Diocesse or Shire And further be it enacted c. That it shall and may be lawfull by the authoritie aforesaid for our said Soveraigne Lord the King his heires and successors from time to time and at all times to nominate and appoint by his and their Highnesse Letters Patents under the great Seale of England for every Shire and Shires Diocesse and Diocesses within his or their highnesse Dominions one or more able and sufficient persons learned in the Civill Law to be his and their Notarie and Notaries Register and Registers by him and themselves or by his or their lawfull Deputie or Deputies to doe performe and execute all and every such act and acts thing and things as heretofore â—â— the Courts and Consistories Ecclesiasticall aforesaid hath beene and â—ow are incident and appertaining to the office of any Register or Notarie And further at the humble suit of the Commons c. it may please the King to have it enacted that all and singular matters of Wills and Testaments with all and every their appendices that all and singular matters of Spousals and Marriages with their accessories that all and singular matters of defamation heretofore determinable in the Ecclesiasticall Courts and if there bee any other causes of the like meere civill nature shall bee heard examined and determined by the said civill and secular Officers and Iudges in the said civill and secular Courts according to the due course of the civill Law or statutes of the Realme in that behalfe provided And that all matters of Tythes Dilapidations repayre of Churches and if there bee any other of like nature with their accessories and appendices shall be heard examined and determined by the said civill and secular Officers and Judges in the said Civill and Secular Courts according to the Kings Ecclesiasticall Lawes Statutes and customes of the Realme in that behalfe heretofore used or hereafter by the King and Parliament to be established And at the humble suite of the Commons may it please the King to
have it further enacted That all manner of fees heretofore lawfull or hereafter by the King and Parliament to be made lawfull for or concerning the probat of Wills administration of the goods of the intestat letters of tuition receiving or making of accompts inductions to Archbishoprickes Bishoprickes Deanries Parochiall-Churches or other spirituall promotions and all other fees whatsoever heretofore lawfull or hereafter to be made lawfull for any travaile or paine to bee taken in or about the expedition or execution of any of these causes shall for ever hereafter be fees and allowances appropriated to the Judges and principall Registers of the said Courts equally to bee devided betweene them as heretofore hath beene accustomed and that the said Judges and Ministers within their severall charges shall be Collectors of the Kings tenths and subsidies granted and due by the Clergie taking for their travaile and paine in and about the same collection such fees as heretofore have beene accustomed Provided alwayes that none of the said civill and temporall Officers and Ministers nor any of them for any offence contempt or abuse to be committed by any person or persons in any wise incident to any of the said Courts and Consistories suspend excommunicate or interdict any person or persons but shall and lawfully may by authority of this present Act proceed against every offender and offenders by such ordinarie processe out of the said Register or Notaries office as is used upon a sub-paena out of the high Court of Chancerie and there upon default or contempt to proceed to attachment proclamation of rebellion and imprisonment of the partie offending as in the said high Court of Chancery is used Provided also that all appeales hereafter to bee made from all and every Court and Courts in the Shires and Diocesses of the Countrey shall bee made to the higher Courts as heretofore hath beene accustomed only with an alteration and addition of the names stiles and dignities of Archbishops Bishops and other Ordinaries unto the name stile and dignitie of our Soveraigne Lord the King his heires and successors And that upon the appeales so to be made it shall and may be lawfull for the Judges and Ministers of Justice of and in the said higher Courts to make out all manner of processe and processes and to do and execute all and every act and acts thing and things for the furtherance of Justice in the causes aforesaid as to them shalby the law seem equal right meet and convenient any law statute priviledg dispensation prescription use or custom heretofore to the contrarie in any wise notwithstanding Provided also that all and everie such Judge and Minister that shall execute any thing by vertue of this act shall from time to time obey the Kings writ and writs of prohibition of attachment upon prohibition and indicavit and not to proceed contrary to the tenour of such writ or writs in such and the same manner and form and condition as they have or ought to have done be ore the making of this act any thing in this act to the contrary notwithstanding Provided also that this act or any thing therein contained shall not extend or be interpreted to give any authoritie to the said Judges and Officers or any of them to put in execution any civill or Ecclesiasticall law repugnant or contrariant to the lawes statutes or customes of the Realme or hurtfull to the Kings Prerogative Royall And thus it may seeme to be but a small labour a little cost and an easie matter for the King his Nobles and Wisemen of the Realme to devise formes of judgement and manner of processe and proceedings without any offices or functions of the Canon law whereby the use and studie of the Civill Law and the reward and maintenance for Civilians might be furthered and increased and not utterly overthrown and taken away as the Admonitor uncivily beareth us in hand As for the alteration of the censure of excommunication for contumacy mentioned in this project we have the consent of the reverend Bishops in this admonition that the same may be altered For the Admonitor their Prolocutor speaketh on this wise viz. As for the excommunication Pag. 138. Excommunication for contumacie by the Admonitors judgement may be taken away without offence and with the good liking of the Bishops practised in our Ecclesiasticall Courts for contumacie in not appearing or not satisfying the judgement of the Court if it had pleased the Prince c. to have altered the same at the beginning and set some other order of processe in place thereof I am perswaded saith he that the Bishops and Clergie of the Realme would have beene very well contented therewith And speaking of a certain manner of civill discomoning used in the Church of Tigure he further addeth viz. Which or the like good order devised by some godly persons if it might be by authoritie placed in this Church c. I think it would be gladly received to shun the offence that is taken at the other ADMONITION And matters of Tythes Testaments and Matrimonie matters also of adulterie slander c. are in these mens judgements meere temporall c. therfore to be dealt in by the temporall Magistrate only which as yet have either none at all or very few laws touching those things therefore the common law of the Realme must by that occasion receive also a very great alteration For it will be no small matter to apply these things to the temporall law and to appoint Courts Officers and manner of processe and proceedings in judgement for the same ASSERTION Indeed we hold that all these matters wherof mention is here made Matters of tythes and other causes of like nature pertain to civill justice and all others of the like nature are merely civill and temporall and by the temporall Magistrate alone to be dealt in and to bee discussed if we consider the administration of externall and civil justice And this we thinke will be granted of all and not to be denyed of any unlesse they be too too popishly addicted In regard whereof we have drawn as before is mentioned a project how Courts and manner of processe and proceedings in judgement by Doctors of the Civill Law may be appointed by the King and his high Court of Parliament without that that the common Law of the Realme by the occasion of any such courts offices or manner of processe and proceedings must receive any alteration at all much lesse a very great alteration Howbeit if it should not please the King and that the Civilians could not finde favour in his sight by courts offices and manner of processe and proceedings in judgement before specified or by the like to have the studie of the civill Law advanced yet we thinke it convenient once again How matters of tyths c. may be dealt in by â—he Kings Iudges to be examined how these matters may be dealt in according to the rules and grounds
presently the parish Church of Hadenham only excepted was adjudged to be void and utterly repealed and adnulled for ever And therefore I leave it to the inquisition of our Soveraigne Lord the King whether the impropriation of the parish Church of Belgrave in the Countie of Leicâ—ster whereunto two Chappels are annexed and other Churches appropried to the Bishop of Liecester since the statutes of Richard the second and Henry the fourth bee the lawfull or unlawfull possession and heritage of the same Bishop yea or no And if it bee lawfully appropried and so a lawfull possession and heritage then I leave it againe to the inquisition of the King what summe of money out of the fruits of the same Church ought yearely to bee distributed to the poore parochians what the endowment of a Uicar canonically to be instituted and inducted in the same Church should bee what house is appointed for the same Vicar to keepe his hospitalitie in and whether any Vicar for the space of these many yeares passed hath beene canonically instituted and inducted in the same Church to possesse that endowment to inhabit that same house and to inform that people For if by the appropriation it self or by the abuse thereof the poore parochians have beene defrauded of their yearely distribution or if no Vicars have beene Canonically instituted and inducted in the same or if being inducted they have their endowments so small or so covetously kept back from them as that they cannot sufficiently maintaine themselves much lesse keepe hospitalitie then as the Admonitor confesseth there must needs be a lamentable abuse of impropriations and that therefore it is greatly to be wished that by some good statute it might be remedied And as those Churches which are unlawfully appropried are not the lawfull possession and heritage of the proprietaries so on the other side we affirme that those impropriations which were made and reformed according to the statutes of Ric. 2. and Hen. 4. may well stand as mens lawfull possessions and heritages even with those things which are required to be planted and brought into the Church whatsoever the Admonitor hath written to the contrary For we doe not hold that maintenance must only and necessarily be provided for every Minister by the paiment of tyths oblations and other ecclesiastical profits belonging to Churches appropried or disappropried For there being no direct proof to be made out of the law of God that Ministers of the Gospell must only live upon tythes the King and parliament may well and competently enough appoint convenable endowments for every Minister without disapproprying of any Church appropried And therefore little cause had the Admonitor to insinuate the ruine of impropriations upon the bringing in the discipline of our Saviour Christ because the same may be well planted and yet to other not unplanted But what need we to argue against his insinuation considerâ—ng hee himselfe before he came to the end of this page by his owne idisclaime contradicted his insinuation For if the forme of finding Ministers by tythes must with the canon law as he saith be abolished and if there must be some other order for this devised because this may seeme papisticall and antichristian what should any man feare the taking away of those lawes whereby impropriations do stand For if such as heretofore have spoken or written against them because as he insinuateth the forme of finding Ministers by tythes seemed to be unlawfully taken away and as he would also insinuate by their judgement ought againe to bee restored and not to stand any longer as mens lawfull possessions and heritages How I say doth it follow that they which desire impropriations to be restored to their pristinate state should withall enquire to have the finding of Ministers by Tythes to bee abolished It seemeth therefore that the Admonitor so hee might bee talking passed but a little what hee talked For what a double talke is here or to what purpose was this talke Was it because some men doe thinke that the Ministers ought not to receive tythes for their reliefe and paines in the Ministerie Why then let all men know that we disclaime such some mens opinions For we account all things pertaining to this life directly or by consequence not commanded nor prohibited by the holy and sacred Scriptures to be things indifferent and that therefore we may use them or not use them as the commoditie or incommoditie of the Church shall require And therefore as we doe not affirme that the maintenance of the Ministers must onely and necessarily bee levied out of tythes oblations and such like so also wee doe not deny but that the tenth part of the increase of all our goods by the authoritie of the King and his lawes may be alloted for their possession and heritage especially in our countrey the same manner of payment being so ancient and so agreeable to the manners usages and disposition of our state and people Nay since the payment of tythes for service accomplished in the spirituall Sanctuarie is correspendent in the nature thereof to the equitie of the Law of Moses for the Levites attendance about the earthly Tabernacle and since also wee bee bound by the commandement of the Apostle to make him that teacheth us in the word to be partaker of all our goods I see not so Jewish and popish ceremonie and superstition be avoided but that this duetie may as Christianly be performed by the payment of the tenth part of the increase of our corne hay wooll lambe c. as by the eight twelfth twentieth or any other part of our money and coine By payment also of which tithes the Ministers at every season with every kinde of necessarie provision towards hospitalitie might throughly be furnished which many times they shall want by reason of mens backwardnesse when collections of monie are to be made But to speake no more of this matter of tithes we will return to the objection made against the Apostolicall government drawn from taking away impropriations And herein we will not handle whether the lawes whereby impropriations do stand as mens lawfull possession and heritage must as hee saith bee taken away but whether impropriations now divided from the Ministerie and dispersed into many severall mens hands and imployed to many uses in the Common weal may not in tract of time by some wholesome law be reduced either wholly or in part to be the only lawfull possessions and inheritances for the Ministers of the Gospell yea and that without any prejudice or dammage unto Prince or people It is evident in the eyes of all that the Churches now appropried doe stand and remaine as the lawfull possessions and inheritances either of the King or of the Nobles or of the Knights Equires Gentlemen and other temporall persons or of Archbishops Bishops Archdeacons Deanes Prebendaries and other Ecclesiasticall persons or of the Vniversities of the Colledges in the Vniversities of Collegiate and Cathedrall Churches of Schools Hospitals
Fraternities and other bodies Politike and Corporate Wherefore to the end our meaning may the better be understood and that we may proceed orderly we thinke it good to examine first by how many severall wayes some oâ— these impropriations may be wholly and thoroughly reduced secondly by how many severall meanes other some in part may be brought to the use of the Ministerie To reduce some of them wholly may bee done by restitution commutation redemption and contribution And first Impropriations may be reduced to the ministery by 4 meanes that I prejudice not the Lords spirituall and Churchmen of their ancient priviledges from being placed in the first ranke reason is that they teaching the people not to possesse other mens goods wrongfully we speake first oâ— restitution to be made by them In declaration whereof we thinke it not fit in this place to shew to what end the state of the Clergie was first founded into a state of prelacie by the King Earles Barons and other great men because the same commeth afterward to be handled more at large but it shall suffice at this â—arochiall Churches to what use they were founded present for the purpose whereof we now intreat to let the reverend Bishops understand that the small Parochiall Churches were founded and endowed with glebe lands tythes and other fruits by the Lords of Manors to the end that the Lords Tenants within the same Manors should be informed of the Law of God and that hospitalities might be kept and the poore of the same parishes be relieved And besides the reverend Bishops we hope will grant that the great Cathedrall This may be proved by 15. R. 2. and 4. h. 4. c. 2. and is confessed by M Bilson in his perpet government pag. 365. 366. and Collegiate Churches were not founded by the Kings progenitors Nobles and great men of the Realme to the end that those great Churches as great Hawkes prey upon little foules with their great steeples should eat and devoure the little steeples or that with their great Quiers they should overthrow and justle downe the small pulpits And therefore we most humbly pray aide from the king for the casting of new claps to bee erected in the little pulpits that hee would be pleased to grant restitutiones in integrum to all the little Churches and that all impropriations of all Parochiall Churches and benefices now by spoliation parcell of the revenues of Archbishops Bishops Deanes Archdeacons Prebendaries and other Ecclesiasticall persons restants within those great Churches may bee wholly restored to their ancient and originall use according to the mindes and intents of the first Donors and Patrons of the same parochiall and little Churches For if as Master Bilson saith it bee true that the Lords of Villages having erected Churches and allotted out portions for divine service either by Gods or mans law by their later grants could not have the former rights unto their patronages overthrowne and if the allowance given at the first to the Minister of each Parish by the Lord of the soyle were matter enough in the judgement of Christs Church to establish the rights of patrons that they alone should present Clerkes because they alone provided for them if I say this be true then have the Ministers of those Villages and of that soyle just cause to require at the Diocesans hands a restitution of such allowances as were first given and provided for them by the patrons Especially the Diocesans by their owne act now enjoying and converting the same allowances to their own use If it be answered that this can not well and conveniently be brought to passe because the same impropriations by the Archbishops Bishops and other Ecclesiasticall persons for diverse summes of money are now lawfully demised to farme for many yeares yet to come hereunto we answer that these leases should hinder nothing at all the restitution of the right and interest in reversion or remainder of those impropriations Only if the impropriations have beene made according to the lawes of the Realm and the leases duly granted these leases for a time may hinder the incumbent Ministers from the present possession of the Tithes Fruits and glebe Land belonging to the said impropriations And yet may not the incumbent Ministers bee hindered in the meane while from receiving the rents reserved upon such Leases and which by the same Leases are now payable to the Archbishops Bishops and other Ecclesiasticall persons Neither after the determination of the same leases should the incumbent Ministers be any more letted to enjoy and receive the whole profits in right of their Churches than other Ministers be now letted to enjoy theirs If any shall say that many of these impropriations are annexed and appropried as Prebends for the provision of some of the Prebendaries of the same great Churches and that the same Prebendaries in the right of their Prebends bee the lawfull Rectors of the Churches appropried and have curam animarum in the same Parishes then we must instantly againe pray the King that those Prebendaries by some wholesome law may be constrained to reside and to incumb upon their said Prebends and Parochiall Churches and that by continuall preaching of wholesome doctrine they may endeavour to cure the soules of the people over whom by the order of those great Churches they be set and over whom they have taken charge And withall that they may no more be suffered to ly and to live idely in their Cloysters in their caves and in their dens sometimes at Worcester sometimes at Hereford sometimes a Gloucester sometimes at Salisburie sometimes at Westminster sometimes at Southwell sometimes at Windsore sometimes at Pauls sometimes at Oxford and sometimes at Cambridge When in the meane while both seldome and very slenderly they feed other sheep whose fleeces they take in and about London Winchester Tukesbury Reading and other places of the Countrey Besides wee pray that these prebends after the determination of Leases now in being may never any more bee let to farme so that the fruits thereof may serve for those Prebendaries or other succeeding Ministers to make Hospitalities Almes and other works of Charitie If it be alledged that the king now having first fruits Tenths and Subsidies out of the impropriations of those great Churches as being all comprised under a grosse summe of the Tenths payable for the whole revenues of the same Churches should lose the first fruits Tenths and Subsidies of the same impropriations if hereafter they become either donative or presentative to this the answer is readily made viz that Tenths first fruits and subsidies might as well be paid then as now And that the King might then aswell have right to the donation of the benefice disappropried as the Bishop now hath the gift of the prebend appropried In the next ranke cometh commutation to be spoken of Wherein because the impropriations of Parochiall Churches appertaining now to the King Nobles Commons Colledges Schooles Bodies
against us that we which urge the same holy law for the bringing in of the discipline by pastors and elders should notwithstanding contrary to the same law intend the leaving out or altering any one of the three estates But which of the three estates was it that he meant should bee left out I trow there is none of the state of prelacie so ill advised as to take upon him the proof of this position viz. That the Lords spiritual The state of the prelacie is not one of the three estates in parliament by themselves alone doe make one of the three estates or that the statutes of England to this day have stood by their authorities as by the authoritie of those who alone by themselvs are to be accompted one of the three estates For if that were so how much more then might the great Peeres Nobles and temporall Lords challenge to make by themselvs an other estate And without contradiction to this day the commons summoned by the kings writ have ever been reckoned a third estate Now then if statutes have hitherto stood by authoritie of the Lords spirituall as of the first estate by the authoritie of the Lords temporall as of the second estate and by authoritie of the commons as of the third estate I would gladly be resolved what accompt the Admonitor made of the Kings estate It had not beene liegnes nor loyaltie I am sure howsoever hee spake much of the Lords spiritualls dutie and fidelitie in the execution of our late Queenes lawes to have set her Royall person authoritie and state behind the lobbie at the Parliament doore Either the kings Royall person then as not comprised within the compasse and circumcription of the three estates by his meaning which had beene but a very bad meaning must be thought to have beene hitherto secluded from authorizing the statute lawes made in Parliament Or els it is a most cleare case that the Lords spirituall themselves alone do not make any one of the three estates And what matter then of more weight may it happily seeme to be to alter the authoritie of the Lords spirituall and to leave them out of the Parliament when as notwithstanding they being left out the statutes of England may remaine and continue by authoritie of the three estates And it were not amisse for the Lords spirituall to consider that the bodie and state of the weale publike both now is and ever hath beene a perfect entire and complete bodie and State without the bodie and state of Prelacie and that the King and Nobles and Commons of the Realme without Prelates Bishops or Clerkes doe make up all the members and parts of the bodie and of the state and may therefore ordaine promulg and execute all manner of lawes without any consent Anno 36. h. 8. fo 51. h Anno m. j. fo 93. â— approbation or authoritie yeelded unto the same by the Bishops spirituall or any of the Clergie And thus much our Divines Histories and Lawes do justifie Sir Iames Dier Lord chiefe Justice of the Common pleas in his reports telleth us that the state and bodie of a Parliament in England consisteth first of the King as of the head and chiefe part of the bodie secondly of the Lords as principall members and lastly of the Commons as inferiour members of that bodie By a statute of provisoes it appeareth That the holy Church of 25. Ed. 3. holy church founded in the state of prelacie by the King England was founded into the state of prelacie within the Realm of England by the grand father of King Edward the third and his progenitors and the Earles Barons and other Nobles of the Realme and their Ancestors for them to informe the people of the law of God and to make hospitalities and almes and other workes of charitie in These uses are changed to the keeping of great horses great troopes of idlers wiâ—h long haire and great chaines of gold 6 Eliz. c. 1. The King bound to do lawes made without assent of prelates to bee kept as lawes of the realmes the places where the Churches were founded From whence it followeth First that the Archbishops and Bishops only and alone doe not make of themselves any state of prelacie but that the whole holy Church of England was founded into a state of Prelacie Secondly it is plaine that the Kings of England before they and the Earles Barons and other Nobles and great men had founded the holy Church of England into a state of Prelacie ought and were bounden by the accord of their people in their Parliaments to reforme and correct whatsoever was offencive to the lawes and rights of the crowne and to make remedie and law in avoiding the mischiefes dammages oppressions and grievances of their people yea and that the Kings were bound by their oathes to doe the same lawes so made to bee kept as lawes of the Realm though that thorough sufferance and negligence any thing should at any time be attempted to the contrary For whereas before the statute of Caerlile the Bishop of Rome had usurped the Seignories of such possessions and benefices as whereof the Kings of the Realme Earles Barons and other Nobles as Lords and Avowes ought to have the custodie presentments and collations King Edward the first by assent of the Earles Barons and other Nobles and of all the communaltie at their instances and requests und without mention of any assent of the state of prelacie in the said Parliament holden at Caerlile ordained that the oppressions grievances and dammage sustained by the Bishop of Romes usurpation should not from thenceforth be suffered in any manner And forasmuch as the grievances and mischiefes mentioned in the said Act of Caerlile did afterward in the time of King Edward the third daily abound to greater dammage and destruction of the Realm more than ever before and that by procurement of Clerks and purchasers of grace from Rome 31 Ed. 5 sta of â—â—ering the said King Edward the third by assent and accord of all the great men and commons of this Realme and without mention of any assent of Prelates or Lords spirituall having regard of the said Act of Caerlile and to the causes conteyned in the same to the honour of God and profit of the Church of England and of all this Realme ordained and established that the free elections of Archbishops Bishops and all other dignities and benefices elective in England should hould from thenceforth in the manner as they were granted by the Kings progenitors and founded by the ancestors of other Lords And in divers other statutes made by King Edward the third it is said that our soveraigne Lord the King by the assent of the great men and all the Commons hath ordained remedie c. That it was accorded by our Soveraigne Lord the King the great men and all the commons 36 Ed. 3. c. 6 8 Ed. 3. 3. statute of provisours
lawes doe uphold the state and authoritie of the Convocation house for the examination of all causes Matters of religion not concluded in parliament before the same bee consulted of in convocation of Religion surely it cannot be truly averred that it is necessarie for Evangelicall Bishops to be members of the Parliamenthouse lest controversie of Religion should bee handled and discussed without them For how should any matter of religion bee concluded without them in Parliament when first of all the same is to be argued among themselves in convocation Or let them hardly if they can shew any one instance of any change or alteration either from religion to superstition or from superstition to religion to have beene made in Parliament unlesse the same freely and at large have beene first agreed upon in their Synodes and Convocations And what booteth it then to have a double or treble consultation and consent of Archbishops and Bishops in parliament Is the holy cause of God any whit bettered by their Bishops riding from Pauls to Westminster Or can it receive any more strength by their walking from Westminster Church to Westminster palace Nay it hath beene often times so farre from being promoted by their bishops as not only in their convocations but also in the Queenes parliaments the same thing hath beene shamefully intreated and taken the foyle as may witnesle the bill for the better observation of the Sabboth 27. Eliz. which being passed by both houses of parliament was notwithstanding gainesaid and withstood by none so much as by certaine Evangelicall bishops and which as there all men generally conceived was only stayed from being made a law by the Queene upon their counsell and perswasion ADMONITION Pag. â—8 It hath beene alwayes daugerous to picke quarrels against lawes setled ASSERTION And is it not morbus haereditarius in Prelates to pick quarrels against reformation of errours For even this did Stephen Gardener Stephen Gardeners argument and the adâ—onitors argument in effect one reason against the Lord Protector That in no case saith Stephen Gardener is to be attempted of the Lord Protector which may bring both danger to him and trouble to the whole Realme But innovation of Religion from that state wherein K. Henry left it may be and is like to be dangerous to the Lord Protector and to baeed troubles to the whole Realme Therefore innovation of Religion from the state that K. Henry left it is in no wise to be attempted And even of this stamp and of this streyne is the argument of pickking quarrels against laws setled for thus in effect he argueth That Discipline in no case is to bee brought into the Church by the King and Parliament which may be dangerous to lawes setled But to bring into the Church the Apostolicall discipline may be dangerous to lawes setled Therefore the Apostolicall Discipline in no case is to be brought into the Church by the King and Parliament But forasmuch as that noble and religious Lord Protector notwithstanding Stephen Gardeners sophistry continued constant and couragious in the abolishment of popery and superstition which king Henry left and did without dangerous alteration of laws then setled innovate religion How much more now may the Kings Majestie the Lords and Commons in Parliament attempt with effect an innovation of that state of Ecclesiasticall government wherein the Queene left the Church And if it cannot be denyed but it had beene far more dangerous for the Realm and for the Lord Protector not to have setled the holy doctrine of the everlasting Gospell by Lesse danger to reforme the Church â—y nâ—w lawes than to câ—ntinue corruption by old laws new lawes than to have maintained and continued antichristianitie by old lawes how should it be lesse danger for the king in these dayes to continue corruptions in the Church by toleration of old lawes than to have the same corruptions reformed by establishment of new lawes But unto whom or unto what hath it beene dangerous to pick quarrells against lawes setled Wha hath it beene dangerous to lawes setled No. For how should lawes setled be indangered by quarrelers sithence quarrellers are evermore in danger of lawes setled Or hath it beene alwayes dangerous for a king for a State for a people or for a Countrey to pick quarrels against lawes setled No. For what man is he or what face carrieth he that dare upbraid a countrey a people a State or a King minding to unsettle evill lawes and evill customes to be quarrellers against lawes setled Let it then only be dangerous for private persons upon private male-contentment to pick quarrels against good lawes well and rightly setled and let it not be hurtfull or dangerous for supreme Kings powers and principalities by publike edicts to alter evill lawes evilly setled For to what other end should evill lawes evilly setled be continued but to continue evill And what a thing were that This argument then for lawes setled being the sophisme of that Fox Stephen Gardener is but a quarrelsome and wrangling argument ADMONITION If this government whereof they speake be as they say necessary Pag. 78. in all places then must they have of necessitie in every particular parish one Pastor a company of Seniors and a Deacon or two at the least and all those to be found of the parish because they must leave their occupations to attend upon the matters of the Church But there are a number of Parishes in England not able to finde one tolerable Minister much lesse to finde such a company ASSERTION This argument seemeth to be drawne from kitchin profit and is but a bugbegger to scarre covetous men from submitting their necks unto the yoke of that holy discipline which our Saviour Christ hath prescribed and which the Admonitor himselfe confesseth to have beene practised by the Apostles and primitive Church And yet because this argument seemeth to lay a very heavie burden on mens shoulders such as is impossible to be borne it is an argument worthy That seniours and Deacons should bee found at the charge of the Parish is absurd to be examined though in it self the same be very untrue and absurd For who did ever fancy that a Pastor a company of Seniours and a Deacon or two at the least should be men of occupations or that they should be all found of the parish because they must leave their occupations to attend upon the matters of the Church Why there be many hundreds of parishes in England wherein there dwelleth not one man of an occupation And what reason then or what likelyhood of reason was there to father such an absurd necessitie upon the Church As for the necessitie of having one Pastour in every partilar parish and of his finding by the parish because it is his duety to attend upon reading exhortation and doctrine although he bee no man of occupation this I say is agreeable and consonant to the government of the Church practised by
the bishops And therefore in the finding and having of one pastour in every parish they and wee differ not But that men of occupations only should be chosen Seniors and Deacons in every parish or if Seniours and Deacons were men of occupations in any parish that they should be all found of the parish we utterly disclaime as an absurditie of absurdities And yet wee deny not but in Cities and great townes wherein for the most part men of trade doe inhabit that Seniours and Deacons must of necessitie be men of occupations Vnlesse then an occupation must of necessitie hinder men from being faithfull religious and godly men there is no reason to inforce that men of occupations in cities and What kind of men ought to be chosen seniours and Deacons great towns should not be chosen Seniours and Deacons And as for Countrey parishes wherein very few or no men of occupations doe reside this objection is altogether idle In which parishes also we affirm that men of greatest gravitie integrity wisedome faith and godlinesse ought to be chosen Seniours and Deacons And wee doubt not but all such men as whom we intend ought to bee chosen Seniours and Deacons whether dwelling in Cities and Townes or in the Countrey would be as ready as willing and as watchfull prudently to imploy themselves hereafter in matters of the Church as now either themselves or their equals are busied in matters of their corporations or common weal without any manner of contribution to be yeelded towards their finding When the people of Israel were commanded to pay their tythes first fruites and other oblations unto the Priests and Levites for their attendance and service in the Sanctuary we do not read in the whole book of God that they were injoyned to be helpers and contributers to the reliefe and sustentation of the Captaines over thousands of the Captaines over hundreds nor of the Elders and governours placed citie by citie for the affaires of the King And therefore sithence wee have neither precept nor president that all the officers of the Church should be found at the costs of the Church and sithence also as well in Countrey parishes as in Cities and townes to the praise and glory of God be it spoken wee have many able wealthy and substantiall persons who have given their names unto Christ what necessitie is there that any such Seniours and Deacons should bee elected as have need to be relieved and supported by a common purse And Church-wardens and sidemen are not found at the charges of the parishes had the Admonitor well and advisedly pondered that our Church-wardens and Sidemen who carry a semblance of governing Seniours that our Collectors also for the poore who justle out the Deacons being all of them men of occupations poore husbandmen or day labourers and being not â—ound of the parish are notwithstanding ofâ—entimes in the yeare troubled and turmoyled from one end of the Diocesse unto the other and that which is more from attendance upon their day labour husbandry and occupations to wait and to attend not upon matters of the Church but upon money matters pertaining to the officers of the Bishops consistorie Had he I say wisely and sincerely considered these things he would certainly not once have mentioned this so silly and simple a suggestion But quite and cleane to cut off at one blow all the skirts of the coate of this silly bulbegger that the very buttocks of it may be bare and that the Church may see there is no such burthensome Charge to be laid upon her as is fained the grave and godly judgement and policie of King Edward The judgment of K. Ed. 6. commissioners touching Elders and Deacons the sixth his Commissioners authorized to compile a booke for the reformation of lawes Ecclesiasticall according to an act of Parliament in that behalfe provided shall rise up for us and plead the truth and equitie of this our sayings The commissioners names were these viz. The most reverend Father Thomas Cranmer Archbishop of Canterbury Thomas Bishop of Ely Richard Cox the Kings Almoner Peter Martyr professor of Divinitie William May Rowland Taylor Doctor of the Law Sir Iohn Cheeke Iohn Lucas Richard Godericke M. Hadon and others All which reverend learned Titul de divinis officiis c. 10. f. 45. and religious men as with one voice and accord speake one thing so thus and thus they speake Evening prayer being finished wherunto all shall be attendant after sermon in their owne Chuâ—ches the chiefe Minister whom they call parochies and the Deacon if happily they shall be present or they being absent let the Ministers Vicars and Elders so the Archbishop of Canterbury afterwards a godly Martyr and Bishops can skil of the name of Deacon and Elders with the people confer about the money put apart to godly uses how the same may be best imployed And let the Dâ—scipline lo these sage Counsellers were all Disciplinarians be reserved untill that time For they whose frowardnes hath been publike and tending to the common offence of the Church let such be recalled to the acknowledgement of their faults and let them publikely for the same bee censured that the Church by their wholesom coertion may be brought in good frame Afterward let the Minister going a part with some of the Elders take counsell how the others whose manners are said to be lewd and whose life is said to be full of mischiese may first according to the commandement of Christ in the Gospell come together and be communed with by sober and discreet men and with a certaine kinde of brotherly love By whose admonition if they shall reforme themselves thankes are diligently to bee given unto God But if they shall proceed forth in their wickednesse they are to bee bound with that sharpe paine which by the Gospell wee know to bee prepared for contumacie And when the force and vehemency of excommunication shall bee shaken first let the Bishop be sought unto who if hee shall consent and oppose his authoritie let the forme of excommunication bee dispatched before the whole Church that we may bring in as much as may be the ancient Discipline Thus much have these most Christian Disciplinarians and renewers of the ancient Discipline by Pastours Elders and Deacons both written and spoken And yet have they founded never a word to the finding of Elders and Deacons by the Parish nor by having men of occupations to leave their businesse to attend upon matters of the Church For men thus meeting together once only in the week and that upon the Lords day and that only within their own parishes and without payment of any fees may very wel notwithstanding these attendances give themselves wholly all the weeke following to their ordinary vocations And therefore against his not able to finde one tolerable Minister much lesse to finde a Companie c. I conclude thus No Parish in England shall be burdened to find so much as one
Seniour or Deacon Therefore much lesse shall every Parish be burdened to find a company of Seniours c Where the Admonitor complaineth that many parishes are not Tolerable and intolerable Ministers able to finde one tolerable Minister we would gladly learne by what brand tolerable Ministers are knowne from intolerable Ministers according as the Lords spirituall judge or judge not of tolerable and untolerable Ministers For if all reading Ministers as needes with them they must bee or else why doe they tolerate them bee tolerable Ministers what a vaine and idle distinction hath hee coyned touching the scarcitie of maintenance for tolerable Ministers Considering all Ministers by intendment of law bee able to reade and considering also a very small maintenance is esteemed to bee a tolerable maintenance for reading Ministers For else why doe the great Bishops in their great Churches of Commendams and the rich Doctors in their rich Churches of non residencies make so small allowances to their reading and stipendarie Curates And where then is that parish in England that is not able to maintaine a tolerable Minister ADMONITION The next Argument that the people might not choose their Pastours Pag. 78. Elders and Deacons as is required is drawne partly from a feare that the same will be a matter of schisme discord and dâ—ssenâ—ion in many places partly from affection and want of right judgement of the people partly from the unrulinesse of the Parishes and partly from the broyle and trouble which may follow ASSERTION Vnto this objection if I should answer nothing at all but only should The objection of feare c. answered deny that any feare or any other inconvenience at all pretended in this place is to be feared to ensue my simple negation were more to be tolerated than his simple affirmation for by the canon Law non inficienti sed ponenti incumbit onus probandi And yet because Doct. in â—si cui de prebâ—â—â— the Lord hath spoken unto Iosua and in him unto us all that wee should not feare nor be discouraged to observe and to doe all that is written in the law for then sâ—ith the Lord shalt thou make thy way prosperous and then shalt thou have good successe therefore in the word of the Lord I say that none of all this feare broyle trouble or turmoyle is to be feared at all Nay that it is most assuredly and without all doubt to be hoped and looked for that he would so blesse the attempt of putting this order in execution as that the peoples approbation and allowance of their Ministers should be a matter of all peace quietnesse unitie concord good successe and prosperitie to the whole Church of God in England For what an heathenish incredulitie were it for us to reply upon the erroneous conceit of a timorous and suspicious fancy that feare and I wot not what unrulinesse and unquietnesse shall follow when wee receiving the lawes of peace from the Prince of peace have his most stable truth that his peace shall rest upon us and that all feare and evill successe shall cease and vanish away No busie headed body therefore shall be able to leade any man away to disquiet either Church or common wealth otherwise than as the Church in all ages by the malice of Satan and his instruments hath evermore beene disquieted if once the holy law of the Gospell touching this point were observed and put in ure And if it be feared that the choice to be made by the people of God and which is allowed unto them by the holy laws of God would prove to be a matter of schisme discord and dissention how much more reason have we to feare that the fiâ—e of schisme discord and dissention being blowen already should not breake out and fame among us if still one man alone be suffered to thrust upon the people of God not tolerable Ministers according to Gods heart but intolerable Ministers according to mans tradition The Admonitor hath insinuated unto us often in his Admonition that it is dangerous to innovate And so I say too unlesse there be evident â—â—de constitu prim L. 2. utilitie of innovation For saith the Emperour in rebus novis constituendis evidens esse utilitas debet ut ab eo jure recedatur quod diu aequum visum est But is it not as perillous yea sometimes much more perillous not to innovate for proof whereof it shall suffice to take witnesse of our owne times and of our owne experiences It seemed equall a long time and for many yeares that the Sacrifice of the Masse with all the pelf and trumperie thereof should not once be Dangerous to innovate unlesse ther be evident utilitiâ— of innovation spoken against But we all know that the abandoning thereof hath not yet brought any perillous subversion upon any nation that purely and soundly in place thereof hath embraced the holy sacrament of the Lords Supper It seemeth also to be equall for many ages past that the Bishop of Rome might have supreme and absolute power over all persons states and causes not onely in Rome Italy Spaine Germany and other forraigne kingdomes but also in England and Scotland But as yet to the view of all the world it hath not proved perillous for the King and Queene of England and Scotland to establish new laws for the alteration of that ancient abuse And why hath it not been dangerous so to do Why forsooth because there was evident utility in doing of it But how could an evident utilitie appeare before it was done How Forsooth because the holy law of God had warranted an alteration For faith having eyes to see the wisedome the power and the truth of God in his word discerned a far off that the institution of the Lords Supper was long before the sacrifice of the masse And therefore our Kings by abandoning poperie out of the Realme did not institute any new religion but onely they restored the old Now then if a same holy law of God do condemn the choice and thrusting of the pastour upon the people by one man alone and again it the same Law doe impugne the primacie of one pastour over all Pastours as well in a Diocesse or Province as in the whole West part of Christendome what danger can it be not to disfranchise the one sithence without any manner of danger we have abolished the other or what perill can it be not to countenance the sonnes sithence without perill we have discountenanced the father Especially seeing in this place of the admonition wee have a plaine confession that the common manner of election of Pastors Elders and Deacons in the old Churches was made by the people For if the examples of schism discord and contention did commonly appeare in the old Churches while that manner of election did continue then by his owne mouth Common manner of elections in the old churches was by the people that manner of election
bishops and societie against the right and freedome of the law of God against the principles of humane fellowships against that which was in the begining and against that which the Apostles left in the Churches by colour of lawes brought into the Church by the cursings and fightings of the late Romane Bishops they would not henceforth barre and seclude the Kings Christian and faithfull people from giving their consents unto their pastours Yea and we further beseech their Lordships that are schollers unto the Apostles and as servants unto the old way of reason of nature of the law of God of the equitie of Christ and of humane societie they would hereafter imbrace that way which was from the beginning which is the old way and the best way and not any longer persist in a cursed and quarrelling way which is the new way and the worst way But if the Lords spirituall of their own accord shal not readily vouclsafe to yeeld unto us this our right at our intreatie then for my part I will briefly shew mine opinion what were expedient for the A supplieation to the king by the Lords and commons for the restitution of their right in the choice of their pastors Lords and commons in open parliament dutifully to pray and to supplicate at the Kings Majesties hand Namely At the humble petitions and supplications of all his Lords temporall and commons in Parliament assembled his majestie would bee well pleased to give his Royall assent to an act to be intituled An act for the restitution of the ancient right and freedome which the people of God in the old Churches had and which the people of England ought to have in to or about the election of their Pastours and abolishing all papal power repugnant to the same For if as it is plainly confessed the people of all Churches have right and freedome by the law of God by the equitie of Christ by the grounds of reason and nature by the principles of humane fellowships and by that which was from the beginning to elect their pastours and if also the same right and freedome being left to the old Churches and especially to the Church at Ierusalem by the Apostles have beene taken away by the cursings and fightings of the late Bishops of Rome then cannot the people without violation of those lawes rules and grounds by any Episcopall power be any more excluded from their said right and freedome than could or might the ancient jurisdiction of the Crowne of England have beene still usurped by the pope from the Kings of England ADMONITION But alas the common people of England thorough affection and want of right judgement are more easily wrought by ambitious persons to give their consâ—nt to unworthy men as may appeare in all those officâ—s of gaine or dignitie that at this day remaine in the choise of the multitude ASSERTION The Admonitor in one place of his admonition telleth us that he must not put all that he thinketh in writing and yet he writeth in this place that thing which might far better have been utterly unthought than once written for could he thinke to win the common people of England to a continuall good liking of high and stately prelacie by upbraiding and charging them to their faces in a book dedicated unto them with affection and wanting of right judgement Was this the way to procure grace favour and benevolence at their hands And albeit this slander deserved rather to have beene censured by the Commons in Parliament than by confutation to have beene answered yet for the better clearing of the right judgement of the common people giving their consents to most worthy men in all offices of gaine or dignitie remaining in their hands I thinke it necessarie to shew the indignitie of this contumelie There be I confesse in London Yorke Lincoln Bristow Exceter Norwich Coventry and other principall Cities and townes corporate Majors Sheriffes Stewards Recorders Bailiffes Chamberlains Bridge-masters Clerkes Swordbearers Knights Burgesses and such like offices some of dignitie some of gaine but that the officers of these or any other places whether of dignitie or gaine be chosen by the multitude of those places is utterly untrue for onely according to their ancient customes priviledges and Charters by the chief Citizens Townsmen and Borough-masters are those officers chosen The number also of which Electors in all places is not alike In London the Aldermen choose the Lord Major In other Cities and Townes sometimes eight and forty sometimes fourteene sometimes twelve sometimes only such as have borne office as Majors Sheriffes and Bailiffs in the same places nominate and elect their new Major Sheriffs and Bailiffes But that the Aldermen principall Towns-men Borough-masters and men having born chief offices in those cities towns and boroughs have easily been wrought by ambitious persons to give their consents unto unworthy men though it have pleased the Ll. Bb. with seene and allowed to have spred and published this saying yet that the same saying is wholly unworthy of any credit to bee given unto it or to bee regarded of any wise and indifferent man let the sober and peaceable elections made of the worthies of the land hereafter mentioned be witnesses The officers in Cities and townes corporate chosen with out contention and ambitious working of unworthy men And to leave to speake of the election of the Lord Major of the Citie of London Sheriffs Aldermen Wardens of companies Chamberlains bridge-masters and other annuall officers of honour and dignitie let us consider whether the Citizens of London have beene wrought by ambitious persons to choose M. Wilbraham M. Onslie M. Bromley to be their Recorders â—ll three afterward the Queenes solicitors and M. Bromly Lord Chancellor of England and let us consider whether the same Citizens as men of affection and want of right judgement did elect to be Recorders of the same Citie M. Serjeant Fleetwood Master Serjeant Flemming Master Serjeant Drue and how Master Crooke a man wise learned and religious and a Counseller and justicer within the principâ—litie of Wales The Recorder of the towne of Bedford is the right honourable the Lord S. Iohns of Bletsoe The Recorder of Bristoll was a long time Master Poppam now Lord chief Justice of England The Recorder of Northampton before he came to be Judge in the Kings bench was Master Serjeant Yelverton a favouter of the truth and an upright Justicer The Recorder of Warnick was Master Serjeant Puckering afterward Lord keeper of the great seale And of the same towne the Recorder now is a worthy Knight descended from a noble house Sir Foulke Grevile The Recorder of Coventrie is Sir Iohn Harrington Knight a man zealous for the true feare of God The Recorder of Chichester was M. Serjeant Lewkner now chiefe Justice in the principalitâ—e of Wales The Recorder of Norwich was Master Cooke the Kings Atturney generall And who soever shall enquire after the names and after the manner of election
desire by an irrevocable law according to the manner of the Medes and Persians to have it enacted That as well every procurer and labourer for a voice as also No occasion of partiall suits about election between parishioners every suitor and sollicitor for a place of Ministery be adjudged ipso facto incapable for ever of the same place For the second touching partiall suits to arise betweene the Parishioners about the election of their Pastor these suits for ought I yet conceive wherin I grant I may erre and conceive too little may easilier be dispatched than be once begun Parishioners ordinarily in the Countrey sue not ne molest one the other for pleasure but for profit they are not so lavish of their purses nor so careles of their thrifts as to jangle in vain when before hand they know there is no hope of gaine And indeed what advantage or what pleasure should Ancients divided against Ancients and chiefe men distracted against chiefe men in a parish about the election of a Minister reape by such â— division and distraction Besides by our daily experience we have learned that very rarely or not at all about elections made by the people of any Officers either in the Countrey or in Cities and Townes any variance or partiall suites have beene stirred betweene the electors For though some times perhaps they varie in their judgements one from another yet rest they more wise and provident than to impaire their owne estate to advance an other mans reputation And if in former times there have no occasion of partiall suites touching publike officers in the common weale fallen out betweene the people when out of a multitude they have chosen one much lesse can there be any occasion of No partiall suites can be among parishioners when one only is propounded to bee chosen by them partiall suites if only there remaine but one to bee chosen to bee a Church officer For if all the ancients agree to choose that one then is all the suit about him ended and if the greater part disagree yet this their disagreement can bee no occasion to breed and nourish suit and contention And why first because no other cause by the greater part ought to be alledged to withdraw their consent but only such a cause as the law should precisely allow in the same case to bee a just cause Secondly because this just cause before the day of election ought to be made knowne unto the Magistrate and by him to be approved so that if the greater part upon the day of election shall dissent not having before hand alleaged and provided a just cause of their dislike the voices of the lesser part as being supposed the better part shall prevaile confirm and make good the election Oh! here is much said my Lords spoken of a choice and election to be made by the Ministers and people by proofes to bee made before the Magistrate but here is not any one word spoken or any mention made of the Patron of the Bishop or of the Archdeacon of presentation institution or induction And what an alteration and innovation would that be and what a dangerous attempt were it to alter lawes setled and that Patrons should bee curbed and that Bishops and Archdeacons should not meddle in these â—usinesses any more Well then to wipe away as much as in me lyeth this cavillous reproach and obloquie from the servants of God who are challenged to be new fangled giddie headed and fanaticall spirits strange innovators and desirers of perillous alterations to wipe away I say this slander If it may please the King with his Princely wisedome to confirme the forme of policie now in use and practice touching ordinations presentations The forme of Church policie now in practice by the Bishops and the platforme of Church policie desired to bee planted by pastours compared together institutions and inductions by Bishops Patrons and Archdeacons with the manner of that platforme of Discipline concerning the substance of these things which is propounded And if the propounders preferre but the commandement of God before the traditions of men but the Kings Crowne before the Bishops Myters but a feast of fat things yea of fat things full of marrow before leane spits and emptie platters but a feast of wines yea of wines fined and purified before sower and untoothsome whey I hope his Majestie will graciously vouchsafe so to protect the propounders being his faithfull loving and obedient subjects as that hereafter they shall not bee charged with any more so unjust and scandalous imputations The practice and policie then now in use is after this and this manner The Bishop oftentimes at his pleasure beside the law nay rather Inconveniences of bishoply ordination are these pestering of the churches with unlearned ministers Vnlawfuâ—l gaine for â—etters or orders the breach of many good lawes against the expresse letter of the Law and publike Canons of the Church not only ordaineth Ministers alone without assistants of such number of Ministers as is required but he also ordaineth them for the most part when there is no place of Ministration void Now the buds which to the griefe of many godly men and to the obloquie of the Professors of the Gospell have sprung from this manner of ordination have beene these viz. The publike breach of many good lawes the pestering of the Church with multitude of unable Ministers together with much unlawfull gaine by immeasurable exaction of money for letters of orders For it cannot be denyed but the Bishops Secretary Gentleman-usher grome of his chamber Butler Pantler Porter and other the Bishops menials besides his owne and his Registers fees and his Clerke for expedition doe usually all or most of them challenge and receive fees some more some lesse before the poore Minister with his box of orders can bee suffered to passe by the porters lodge these are the fruites of the Bishops Suits betweene the patron and the â—ishop sole ordination The suites which have growen and daily do grow by the Patrons presentation to the Bishops have been and are these Sometime contention and suite in law betweene the Patron and Bishop for disallowing the Patrons Clerke for non-abilitie or as being criminous Sometimes if two Patrons pretend right of patronage Suits betweene Clerke and Clerk if one of their Clerkes be instituted and the other rejected as necessarily it must come to passe for one wife can have but one husband then followeth suit at law betweene the Clerk refused and the Clerke admitted wherein also the Bishop is made a partie by a writ of quare impedit sometime suit falleth out betweene the Clerke presented and the Bishops when the Clerke calleth the Bishops Suites between the Bishop and the Clerke by a double quarrell before the Archbishop for not granting institution and sometime also likewise debate is moved and law attempted between the Clerke instituted and the Archdeacon who Suites between the
Clerke and archdeacon knowing the Church not to be vacant refuseth to execute the Bishops inductorie mandat For many times upon pretence that the Church standeth void being indeed full the Patron upon suggestion granteth a presentation and the Bishops also institution which if the Archdeacon refuse to execute then besides the discord between the Bishops and the Archdeacon for contempt of the Suites between the Bishop and the Archdeacon Bishops mandat he who pretendeth title by vacancie thinking to have right though a reall incumbent be in possession bringeth their two titles to be tried in the Ecclesiasticall Court but before the matter can be finally sentenced by that Court many foule riots â—â—ots and breaches of the Kings Peace breaches of the Kings peace and unlawfull assemblies upon entries and keeping possessions doe ensue as was well enough lately knowne in the case between Rogers and Baker for the title to the Paâ—sonage of Barby in the Countie of Northampton Howbeit let it be supposed that none of these variances in law fâ—ll out between the Bishops and the Patron between the Bishops and the Clerke between the Bishop and the Archdeacon between the Clerk and the Archdeacon and between Clerke and Clerke the exaâ—tion notwithstanding of unlawfull gaine for fees of letters of institution and fees usually payable to the Bishop his Officers as aforesaid for fees of the Archdeacons induction his Rester his Clerke and his Apparrators fees the unconscionable exaction Vnlawfull feâ—s for letters of institution c. I say of these unreasonable fees may seeme to be a conscionable motive to cause better things than these without danger to be attempted and innovated And yet these are not all the bad events that happen and fall out upon the presentation institution and induction now used But by the interest whereby the Bishop challengeth to be custos Ecclesiarum there happen as bad if not worse than these For there is no sooner a Church void but a post is sent in all haste with letters of sequestration to sequester the Vnlawfull fees foâ— letters of sequestation fruits to the use of the next incumbent Which next incumbent for the great care taken to preserve the fruits to his use before he can obtain to be put in reall possession must pay Ten Shillings or a marke or more for those letters of sequestration which as much more also for letters so called of relaxation besides Two pence Three pence or Foure pence a mile for portage to the Somner And from hence is the Patrone as I take it very much injuried For he being as it appeareth by the Statute of 25. of King Ed. 3. Lord and Avower of the benefice ought to have the custodie and possession thereof during the vacancie Besides many times wilfull Perjurie by the Clerke and robberie by the patrone perjuries are committed by the Clerke and many times sacrilegious robberies are perpetrated by the Patrone The Clerke when he sweareth that neither directly nor indirectly any compact promise bande or agreement hath been made or passed by him for him or in his name to the Patron many times forsweareth himselfe And if the Clerke be presented to a Vicarage then the Bishop Every Vicar sweareth or ought to sweare to be resident if he be faithfull to the law sweareth him to be resident upon the same Church Which oath notwithstanding is afterwards broken when as the same Vicar accepting another benefice and retaining withall the former by purchase of a dispensation betaketh himselfe to be resident upon his second Benefice and so by non-residence from his first Vicarage committeth perjurie Touching the Patrons robbery thus it is and thus many times hath it fallen Patrones robberie out The Patron when at the hands of two three or moe such perjured Clerkes he hath time out of minde possessed the mansion house or gleebe-land of the Parsonage finally in time spoiled the Church both of the house and gleebe-land the gleebe-land being often intermingled with his owne inclosed grounds he possesseth them as his owne inheritance and in steed of the Parsonage house either he buildeth another new or else hireth some cottage or farme house for the Parson and his successors to inhabite in These abuses we see are many and yet besides these continuing at this day in the goverment established there remaineth others as foule and as grosse as any of the rest which is the too too inordinate and licentious chopping and changing of Churches from Minister to Chopping of benefices despensations c. Minister for dispensations commendames perinde valeas res pluralities and Non-residencies wherein not the people to be taught but their own backs and bellies to be cloathed and fedd is wholly respected Now then that this manner of goverment wherein the afore specified the like discoÌ„modities daily fall out under colour of not diminishing the Kings Prerogative of not altering laws setled of not attempting dangerous innovations and of the preserving of the right of Patrones Bishops and Archdeacons should still be continued without any mention or Remembrance to be once had of their discontinuance especially in the time of Peace and under a Christian Magistrate and in a state as he saith reformed we humbly leave to the wise and mature deliberation of our most Christian King and State in Parliament And we most humbly beseech the King and State that indifferently freely and largely it may be argued heard and examined whether it be possible Supplication to the King and State in parliam that the tenth part of these or any other the like disorders corruptions and grievances can possibly fall out in the Church by that platforme of Discipline which is required to be planted And to the end that the Kings Majestie and the State might rightly and perfectlie be informed and resolved of those points whereof we now speake viz. of the petition ordination election prefentation and admittance of every Parochiall Pastour to any Church with cure of soules how the same may stand and not be disagreeable to Petition ordination c. of Misters or Pastors how the same may be made without Bishops or Archdeacons not disagreeable to divers lawes already setled divers lawes already setled and in force it is requisite that the substance of these things in this place be intreated of wherein against the base office and meane person of the Archdeacon we oppose the Royall office and most excellent person of the King against the immoderate office and stately person of one Lordly Bishop wee oppose the meek and temperate cariage of a Senate or Presbyterie of many wise learned and grave Ministers together with a Reverend assemblie of the Ancients and chiefe Fathers of every Church destitute of a Pastor As for the Patrons right we are so farre from diminishing any jott of the true right which by laws setled he ought to have as that he shall quietly possesse his interest and that with lesse
As for stipendarie Curats it is expresly against the policie of our Church that any should be ordained a Minister to serve only as an hireling From which Decrees and Canons already setled as I said before it followeth for the most part that the patrons Clerks to be ordained of necessitie must be called from the Vniversities or other places of learning For if every place of ministration be full and none must be made a Minister untill some place be void then albeit some patrons upon good causes to be allowed by publike discipline might be permitted to nominate some Clerkes already placed in administrations Yet in the end as well the patrons of those Churches from whence these are to beremoved as other patrons also many benefices at one time being void must of necessitie seek out men to be ordained which never were ordained to the ministerie before And where are these to be sought if not only at the Vniversities or other Schooles and nurseries of learning For that prophets in the ordinarie time of prophesying should bee taken from the feet of the Apothecaries Taylors Drapers Milners Mercers or Prophets in the ordinary time of prophecying to be taken out of the schooles of prophets from the butry pantry kitchen celler or stable of any Bishop Peere Knight or Gentleman and not from the feet of the prophets is a thing abominable and odious unto God and man Wherein then doth this platforme in this point of fetching Ministers only from the Vniversities or other places of learning differ from the intendment of lawes setled Or wherein can the patrons receive any detriment by such a practice Nay they are so far from receiving any prejudice hereby as indeed both they and their Clerks shall reape great commoditie by it Wherein I grant some discrepance to consist betweene the Bb. practice and this platforme For the Bb. at The difference betweene the platforme and the bishops practice one time allow a Clerk for abilitie and at another time disallow the same Clerk for nonabilitie And him whom they have ordained and adjudged to day worthy of an office they many times disordaine him tomorrow and refuse him as a person unworthy to possesse a benefice Whereas on the contrary part wee think it very absurd and unreasonable to barre any man from a benefice whom the Governours of the Church shall judge worthy to beare an office So that the patrone by this platforme shaâ—l be sure if at any time hee nominate a Clerke alreadie ordained that the same Clerke unlesse it were for Crime or some defect after happening should never be refused And if such be the lawes and liberties of the Ordinaries what alteration of the law or prejudice to the patron could it be if by a new law the King provided new meanes to put his old lawe in due execution It upon difference of judgment any variance should arise between Vpon difference of judgment about the abilitie of a Clerk what may bee done the Ministers appointed to elect and ordaine which of the patrons Clerkes were most worthy the same diversitie wee assure our selves can breed no greater inconvenience nor further danger than doth now daily fall out in the election of Schollers fellowes and heads of houses in the Vniversitiâ—s or of other Officers in Colledges Cathedrall Churches and bodies politike or corporate As those controversies therefore have beene and are appeased by the good orders and laws of those places even so might these also And therfore some good law might be made to this effect viz. If any foure of the seven did agree together upon any one â—lerke nominated by the patron that the same foure should strike the stroke and make the election good against the other three Neither doe we think it to stand with reason that the Archipresbyter or any other Minister among the seven should necessarily be of the quâ—rum For if any one of the seven should necessarily be of the quorum then having as it were a negative voice against all the rest if he should be wayward and apt A Clerk refused for nonabilitie to whom the nomination may devolve to contention he might then alwayes frustrate the election either by opposing himself to all the rest or by inclining to the lesser and worser part as lately came to passe about the election of a Scholler among great Doctors If both the Patrons Clerks should bee disabled by those unto whom the judgement of their nonabilitie did appertain we leave it to be consideâ—ed whether the right to nâ—minate elect and ordain for that time only might not hereafter devolve unto the presbyterie as in like case it hath done heretofore unto the Bishops And from that Presbyterie if the same should make default that the beâ—efice should be then in lapse unto the king Lastly touching the nonabilitie of a Clerke iâ— the Clerke whom A Clerke wronged by a refusal for nonabilitie how he may be relieved the presbyterie should refuse come from one of the Vniversities then as a Clerke before time refused for nonabilitie by the Bishops was to be tried by the Archbishop and by him to be allowâ—d or disallowed so in this case we leave it to be consideâ—ed whether it were not meet that this Clerke so refused and complaining himselfe unto the Magistrate to be wronged should have his abilitie to be again tried by that next Synod of Ministers to be congregated within that Deanry And if upon tryall made and bringing a testimoniall under some authentike seale from the Synod of his abilitie whether the Presbyterie upon a good paine within a time to be prefixed should A Clerk refused for crime to whom the nomination may devolvâ— not be constrained to ordaine and dedicate the same Clerke to the Ministerie of the same Church And as for the refusall of a Clerke by the Presbyterie upon objection of crime if the crime be so hainous as for which by the Canons of the Church hee might not bee promoted to the Ministerie then is it to be considered whether the pâ—esbyterie in this case also as in the former of nonabilitie might not nominate elect and ordaine the Clerke to that place for that time only and upon the presbyters default the lease also to be unto the king And thus have we compared the manner of Church government The benefits ensuing the platform of ordination c. required now in use touching these points with thâ—â—â—orme of Discipline which is desired to bee planted By which comparison the Kings Highnesse may very easily discerâ—e the differences betweene them to be such as whereby the Kings dignity and prerogative shall highly be advanced the Kings poore subjects both Ministers and people diverse wayes eased and unburdened and the Lawes better observed to the unspeakeable peace and tranquillity both of Church and Common-Weale The Prophets tryall of the Prophets the peoples approbation of their Pastours the Ministers entrance into their Ministery according to the Apostolicall
practice of the Primitive Church would be a meanes utterly to extinguish that schisme that remaineth yet among us that we have no Christian Ministers no Christian Sacraments no Christian Church in England Besides the Ministers for Letters of Orders Letters of Institution Letters of Inductions for Licences to serve within the Diocesse for Licences to serve in such a cure for Licences to serve two cures in one day for Licences to preach for Licences of resignation for testimonials of subscription for Letters of sequestration for Letters of relaxatâ—on for the Chancellours Registers and Somners dinners for Archidiaconall annuall and for Episcopall trienniall procurations the Ministers I say to be nominated elected ordayned approved confirmed and admitted by the Patron by the Presbytery by the People and by the King should be disburdened from all fees for these things and from all these and such and such like grievances Onely for the Kings writts and for the traveile and paines of His Highnesse Officers taken in and about the execution of the same wrâ—tts some reasonable fees as it shall please the King may be taxed and set downe The people also in soules in bodies and in their goods could not be much comforted relieved and benefited They should not henceforth to the perill of their soules have unlearned unable and undiscreete Ministers thrust upon them and set over them Neither should they bee compelled upon light occasions to take many frivolous oaths in vaine They should not bee summoned from one end of the Diocesse unto the other nor be posted from Court to Court and from visitation to visitation The Church-Wardens and Side-men of every Parish should not upon paine of excommunication be constrained once or twise in the yeare to pay six or eight pence for a sheet of threehalfepeny articles They shall not any longer out of the common treasury reserved for the poore beare the charge of their Parishes for making bills visitation and diverse other expenses There should be no more suits at Law between Clerke and Clerke about the Patrons Title no more suites of double quarrell betweene the Clerke and the Bishop no more debate betweene the Bishop and the Arch-deacon and lastly there should bee no occasion of any riots and unlawfull assemblies to bee made upon entries and possessions by vertue and colour of two presentations two institutions and two inductions into one benefice at one time The Patrons as being Lords and avowers of the Churches might have the custody of the Churches during their vacancies and their ancient right in this behalfe restored All swearing of Canonicall obedience unto the Bishops by the Ministers all 31. Eliz. c. 6. swearing and forswearing of Clerkes for any symoniacall bands promises or agreements betweene them and their Patrons and all robberies and spoyling of the Churches by the Patrons should determine and cease Especially if it might please the King and Parliament to have one clause of a Statute against abuses in election of Schollers and presentation to benefices enlarged For although every corrupt cause and consideration by reward gift profit or benefit to present be inhibited by that act yet notwithstanding by experience in many places we finde that the Patrons for small rents and for many yeeres are in possession some of the mansion houses some of the glebe lands and some of the tythes of such benefices as since the publishing of that act have beene bestowed upon Clerkes which breedeth great suspicion and jealousie in the mindes of men that the Clerke and Patron at the beginning directly or indirectly did conspire to frustrate and delude the intendement of the statute And therefore wee leave it to bee considered by the Kings Majesty and Parliament If any Clerke after confirmation A means to restrain patrons from corruption and possession to any benefice hereafter to bee made and given unto him shall willingly and wittingly suffer the Patron of the same benefice or any other person in his name or to his use directly or indirectly mediatly or immediatly to use occupy or enjoy the mansion house glebe land or other ecclesiasticall commodities or any part thereof belonging to the same Benefice In this case I say we leave it to be considered whether it were not meete and convenient that every such willing and witting sufferance by the Clerke and every such willing and witting possession use or occupation by the Patron should not bee adjudged to bee a just cause to determine the presentation to have beene first made upon corrupt respect and consideration And that therefore the Clerke ipso facto to â—ose the benefice and the Patron ipso facto to forfeite his right of Patronage to the King for the two next turnes following And these being the principall reasons and grounds of our desires wee are humbly to pray the Lords spirituall either to convince them of indignitie insufficiency and incongruitie or else to joyne with us unto the Kings Majestie for the restitution of that manner of Government which they themselves confesse to have beene practised at the beginning by the Apostles and Primitive Church but the Admonitor hath yet moe reasons unanswered against this platforme ADMONITION That every Parish in ENGLAND may have a Learned and discreet Minister howsoever they dreame of perfection no man is able in these dayes to devise how to bring it to passe and especially when by this change of the Clergie the great rewards of Learning shall bee taken away and men thereby discouraged to bring up their Children in the study of good Letters ASSERTION In some part to justifie this opinion I grant that no man is able in these dayes to devise to bring it to passe that every Parish should have a Learned and discreet Minister And why because in these dayes not any one Bishop hath afforded to ordaine one Learned and discreet Minister for five Parishes secondly because where some of the Reverend Fathers have ordained and placed in many Parishes many Learned and discreet Ministers some others of the same Fathers have againe disregarded and displaced those learned and discreet Ministers and in their roomes have placed many unlearned and undiscreet Ministers Now then if these dayes wherein so few learned and discreet Ministers and so many unlearned and undiscreet Ministers be ordained and wherein also so many learned and dâ—screet Ministers are disgraced and so many undiscreet and unlearned Ministers graced If these dayes I say were ended then albeit no perfection whereof never any one of us dreamed could be attained unto and albeit no one man were able to devise how to bring it to passe that every Parish should have a learned Minister Yet neverthelesse all good and holy meanes being used to ayme and to shoot after perfection and all good and holy men laying to their heads and applying their hearts to further this enterprise and service unto God we know that the Lord might call and make and fill with the Spirit of God in wisdome and in understanding and
most men contemned and that it will be of small force to bring to effect any good amendment of life ASSERTION But who taught him to father or to fasten this untruth upon us only then this might suffice for answer that hee did never yet heare any one of our part so much as call much lesse to cry for discipline No discipline by excommunication only called for Discipline by excommunication onely no more to bee suffered by excommunication only For wee say cleane otherwise viz that the Discipline of the Church ought not to be executed as now for the most part it is by excommunication only This manner of discipline therefore by excommunication only is one of the disorders in the Church used by the reverend Bishops and which wee so much desire to bee reformed And for this cause we intreat their Lordships to forbeare the practice of that which as it seemeth they would so faine have others to mislike But happily this was not the marke whereat the Admonitor shot for Bishoply and Archdeaconly excommunication being daily used it is like that he bent his bow and aimed at that excommunication only which is pastorall and Elderly Against which forme and manner of excommunication let be so that some learned men of this age have at large declared in their workes set forth to the world that the same will be of most men contemned and that it will be of small force to bring to effect any good amendment of The writings of som learned men not sufficient to condemâ—eâ— excommunication by pastours and Elders life let this I say be granted what of all this must the Church of England therefore dislike and reject the same God forbid The whole doctrine of Faith and Sacraments we know to bee of most men contemned and to be of small force to bring most men from superstitious and popish idolatrie And how then is it possible but that the sword of this doctrine should have as little entertainement amongst most men as the doctrine He that casteth away the kernell will much more despise the shale And hee that setteth light by the sword will set lesse by the scabberd It sufficeth then that the children of the Church in England striving to enter in at the narrow gate and embracing the doctrine of the Gospell it is sufficient I say that they submit and subject their necks unto the yoke of the Gospell for what have we to doe with them that are without Doth the law of England endight condemn and judge a Spaniard resiant in Spaine The Admonitor himselfe affirmeth at the time when our Saviour Christ said dic Ecclesiae that there were many presidents as it page 134 were and governours of the Church together with the chiefe Ministers page 135 The Bb. confesseth that the Minister and Elders did governe in the primitive Church of every congregation nay further hee saith thaâ— he will not deny that the Apostles afterward and the primitive Church did practise the same These some learned men then eâ—ther must shew and prove unto us the children of God in England that this forme of governing the Church and excommunicating by many presidents and go vernours together with the chiefe Minister of every congregation was given to the Churches in the time of Christ and his Apostles but only for that time and that therefore that form is now at an end and ceased or els it must be confirmed unto us that God hath in these dayes altered and changed his mind touching England and that hee hath by some new vision or revelation commanded the Reverend Bishops in these dayes to teach the Church of England that he will not have the same manner of Government used in the Church of England because it would be of most of his Children in England The opinion of some Learned men not sufficient for the Church of England to depart from the word contemned and of small force to bring to effect any good amendment of life in them for albeit all the Learned men in the world had declared as much in their workes set forth to the world as is here spoken of what were that to the children of God in England unlesse the same Learned men had taught unto us true learning from the mouth of God How much lesse are we bound to regard what only some Learned men of this age have declared unto us the same some Learned men having no warrant out of the holy Booke of God for such their Learning For if the declaration of some Learned men of this age in their workes set forth to the world may be a sufficient warrant to draw men from the way of truth then hardly let the declaration of Doctor Harding against the true use of the Lords Supper and then let the declaration of Osorius against justification by faith and the declarations of Bellarmine against diverse Articles of our Religion and the declaration of Doctor Allen against the execution of Justice in England and the declaration of Doctor Saunders a rebellious fugitive in the defence of the Popes Bull and the declaration of G. T. for the pretended Catholikes and lastly let the declaration of the Pope and his whole Clergy excommunicating our late Soveraigne Lady the Queen deceased bee received and listned unto For who can deny but that these men were some men and that these some men were also some learned men and who then seeth not the loosenesse the vanity the trifling and the toying of this argument The Argument following which the Admonitor would seeme Page 81. to let passe drawne from experience is of like quality For though experience as hee saith teach that men of stubbornnesse will not By excommunication of Pastors and Elders moe can not bee out of communion than in communion shun the company of such as bee excommunicated and though such men of stubbornnesse must be also as he saith excommunicated for keeping of company with them yet to affirme that by meanes of Pastourly and Elderly excommunication moe will bee excommunicated as being men of stubbornesse than in communion is a very grosse and palpable errour For we hold as the truth is that the greater part of the Church cannot be excommunicated by the lesser nor that many should be excommunicated by a few nor that a few should bee excommunicated by one of the Church And if the common union must necessarily consist of all or of the most part of the faithfull then is the lesser part alwayes out of this common union For what else is excommunication but extra communionem ejectio a casting forth of one or of moe persons from the common fellowship society and company of the faithfull The greatest part whereof and not the least are accompted to be the Church and to be in communion unlesse then the whole Church or the greater part of the Church having once cast out from among them one or moe adulterers blasphemers extortioners or such like
wherof were lay men good or moderate discipline to be used by the Ecclesiasticall Commissioners And then were it fit that the people were resolved what a very good manner of Discipline Master D. W. and other Ecclesiasticall Commissioners used against Master E. whom by vertue of the Ecclesiasticall commission they excommunicated The tenor of which excommunication taken out of the Register at L. followeth In Dei nomine Amen Nos I. W. Sacrae Theologiae Doctor c. Cancellarius ecclesiae c. M. A. M. Armigeri M. H. civis civitatis c. Commissarij rite legitime procedentes I. E. de B. L. Dioceses ad hos diem locum legitime peremptorie citatum praecognizatum diuque expectatum nullo modo comparentem pronunciavimus contumacem in poenam contumaciae suae hujusmodi cum excommunicavimus in hijs scriptis Concordat cum Regio T Moreover it seemeth not an unmeet thing that some Ecclesiasticall Authority committed to Pursevants by the Ecclesiasticall commissioners If the Queen had specially commanded this search it is credible that her privy Counssellors shold have set to their hands rather than the High Commissioners Commissioners did make knowne unto the people whether banishment be an Ecclesiasticall Discipline and what moderate discipline Ecclesiasticall the Commissioners used when they banished religious Master Fullerton the Scot from dwelling at Warwicke or within certaine Miles thereof Or lâ—t them iâ—foâ—me the Realme what a very good moderation was used when by the Ecclesiasticall Commission for suppressing of Martines Books and other books of argument against the Hierarchy they authorized drunken and swearing Pursevants to search mens houses and to break up their chests c. the Copie of which their Letters is this viz. Whereas the bearer is say they by the Queenes Majesty especially appointed to make search and to apprehend certaine suspected persons according to such particular directions as he hath in that behalfe received these shall be to will and require and in her Majesties Name strairly to charge and command you and every of you to whom these shall appertaine to be by all good and possible meanes ayding and assisting to the bearer in the execution of this service by entring into all such houses as he shall think meete and hold suspected as well within liberty as without and that in them and every of them to make due and diligent search And to search all manner of writings letters papers bookes and all other things carrying note of suspicion sparing no studies chests cubbares lockes or walles as also to apprehend examine and bring before us such persons as by Her Majesties said direction therein appointed and wherein if he shall any way require your further assistance you may not faile to yeeld him the same with all diligence and dexterity according to the trust reposed in you as you will answer for your default for the contrary at your uttermost perill Directed unto all Mayors Sheriffes Justices of Peace and quorum Baylifes Constables Hedboroughes Tything-men and to all other Her Majesties Officers and Subjects c. But be it that all these manners of Disciplines were moderate and good Ecclesiasticall Disciplines and more to be used yet there may a scruple remaine which were fit to be discussed what a very good moderation and manner of Discipline within our remembrances was used betweene an Archbishop and a Bishop both high Commissioners against certaine Gentlemen and one of their Wives about these Articles following Articles objected by her Majesties High Commissioners for causes Ecclesiasticall against G. B. of B. and F. B. of B in the Countie of L. IN primis VVe object unto you G. B. and L. your wife that you have within these seven yeares and so at this present doe keepe company and use conference with diverse persons disobedient to her Majesties lawes and such as be suspected to resort and frequent unlawfull Conventicles Item wee object unto you to the end you might the better insinuate your selves into their companies you Quere whether this convention were lawfull for this cause Quere against what law this entertainment was and whether the Bishop of L. conversing with Popish Priests and traytors did not more offend have tabled and boorded vvith the same parties and that you or one of you have beene heretofore convented for the causes aforesaid before the novv Lord Archbishop his grace for entertaining into your house a person which stood then and yet standed suspended and deprived for disliking the Booke of Common Prayer and other godly orders established by Her Majesties authority in this Realme Item VVee object unto you the said G. B. and L. your Wife that you have not frequented divine service celebrated vvithin your Parish Church of Bothese vi 5. 4. 3. 2. or one yeares last nor doe not at this present at least every Sunday nor have received the holy Communion within your said Parish Church during the said yeares Item that you the said G. B. and L. your Wife vvithin the time aforesaid have not Christened nor baptized Quere whether the Bishop did not more offend the law of God by preferring these artioles than the Gentleman did by procuring his children to be Baptised by a preaching Minister having none at home your Children vvithin your Parish Church but contrary to the forme and order of Her Majesties Lavves in that case provided have either christened them at home privately in your ovvn house or have carried or caused them to bee carried to other Churches And let them declare what Church and vvhat Minister did baptise them and where and vvhether the same Minister did at the same baptisme signe the child vvith the signe of the Crosse and let them declare the cause vvhy they did baptize their children out of the Parish Item that the Ministers pevv or seate in the Church of B. aforesaid by the direction of the L. Reverend Father Note that the bishop of L. was not bishop of the Diocesse in God the Bishop of London that novv is being at the same Church as also by the consent of the Minister and Church-Wardens there vvas placed in a very convenient place of the Church to the end the Parishioners there might the better heare and understand the Minister at the time of reading the divine service Item We object unto you that you the said F. B. vvithin these vi or 3. moneths last past have vvithout any sufficient vvarrant or commandement from the Father in God the Lord Bishop of London or his Clancelour or other having authority therein very disorderly and contemptuously removed the same seat to the great offence of the Parishioners and bad example of others Item We object unto you that you knovv beleeve or have heard say that Za. G. is a Preacher of the VVord of God and a man of good life and conversation and lawfull Parson of B. aforesaid Item VVe object unto you that the premisses notwithstanding you the said F.
his confident asseveration that William Sommers with divers others in Lancashire were possessed and that Master Dorrell was not an impostor The occasion of the Admonitors great commendation of a very good manner of ecclesiasticall discipline used by the high Commissioners hath necessarily drawn me to shew the differences of the disciplines used by the same To the intent the Kings Highnesse might be pleased with the advice of his Parliament to consult whether it were not more agreeable to the good lawes statutes and customes of the Realme and more convenient for the good government of the Church to have one certaine forme and rule of Ecclesiasticall discipline to be established and to be used by the high Commissioners rather than thus at randome to suffer their onely discretion to be the Mistresse of all Ecclesiasticall discipline especially sithence without any manner of appeale or supplication to be made from them unto the King they use what manner of discipline soever seemeth good in their owne eyes whether moderate or immoderate Civill or Ecclesiasticall without check or controlement Than the which there cannot seeme any thing more prejudicâ—all and burthensome unto the people ADMONITION Page 8â— Further more theâ—r whole drift as it may seeme is to bring the government of the Church to a Democracie or Aristocracie the principles and reasons whereof if they be made once by experience familiar in the minds of the common people and that they have the sense and feeling of them it is greatly to be feared that they will very easily transferre the same to the government of the common weale For by the same reasons they shall be induced to thinke that they have injurie if they have not as much to doe in civill matters as they have in matters of the Church seeing they also touch their commoditie and benefit temporally as the other doth spiritually and what hereof may follow I leave to the judgement of other ASSERTION Let it be granted that their whole drift is to bring the government Book of common prayer title communation and confirmed by 5 and 6 Ed. 6. c 1. prim Eliz. c. 2 8 Eliz c 1 Aristocracie in the Church not hurtfull to the coÌ„mon wealth of the Church to that manner of government which the learned call Aristocracie what incommoditie should the Church or common weale receive by such a government when as the same government is not only authorised by the holy law of God but also commended unto us by the desires and wishes of sundry acts of Parliaments For saith the booke of Common prayer the Discipline of the Primitive Church is greatly to bee wished Aristocracie therefore and the discipline of the Primitive Church differing but in name and not in nature it cannot be hurtfull to the common weale that the principles and reasons thereof should by experience be made familiar in the minds of the common people nay it cannot but bee beneficiall unto the common weale when the same shall understand that the best observers of the law of God and the best friends unto God and his people are to be the Officers in the house of God Neither is their whole drift to be disliked but to bee commended that labour to bring the government of the Church from a Papall Prelacie to a Christian Aristocracie the one viz. Aristocracie according to the interpritation of the name Aristocracie in the Church optimatum Praelacia pessimatum potestas thereof being optimatum potestas a power of the best observers of the law the other viz. Prelacie according to their practice being pessimatum potestas a power of the worst observers of the law the first derived from the law of God and practice of Gods people the other reduced from the lawes and customes of the Gentiles and idolatrous Priests And this of necessitie in defence of the truth the Admonitors argument forceth me to speake for by an implication of the dislike of bringing the government of the Churches by Pastours and Elders to a Democracie or Aristocracy he hath by consequence disclaimed and disavowed the government of the Church by Prelacie to be any of those two And what other government then should we thinke Prelacie to be but either Oligarchie or Tyrannie For neither Monarchie may it be neither Prelacie either Oligarchie or tyrannie Policie or politicall estate can it be and other kinde of government besides these there is not any For my part I more charitably judge of the government of the Church by prelacie than to match it with Tyrannie And although the Admonitor and the perusers and allowers of his booke were men in their generation wise yet had they well weighed the nature of the government of Oligarchie they would rather in this argument have beene silent than upon disclaime of Democracie and Aristocracie governments both of them commendable in their kind have cast the commendation of their owne government of the Church by Prelacie to so desperate an estate as is the estate of Oligarchie Wherein if any doe glory because not many of the best but some few of the wealthiest and richest sort doe governe then let him hearken and consider what long since was preached before Pope Vrban the fifth by one Nicholas Orem a man singularly commended for learning in his time Amongst all the regiments of the Gentiles Act. Mo. Nich. Orem his opinion of Oligarchie none saith he is more to be found wherein is to be seene so great and exceeding ods than in the policie of Priests Amongst whom one is drunken another is sterved amongst whom some bee so high that they exceed all Nobles and Princes of the earth some againe be so abased that they are under all rascals and such a common wealth saith he may well be called Oligarchie But Thomas Aquinas hee seemeth to set the diâ—commodities of Oligarchie a pinne higher for saith he as a Kingdome hath in it the commodities Tho. Aquin. what hee thinketh of Oligarchie Aristocracie a good regiment of all other good regiments of Aristocracie that the Noblest and chiâ—fest persons among the people be taken to Councell of policie or politicall estate where an assemblie of all estates is had and when the very best of all sorts are chosen to consult and deliberate of the publike wealâ— so doth Tyrannie containe and hath in it all incommodities and vices of all naughâ—inesse and corrupt regiments of Oligarchie it borroweth that the most wicked and corruptest men be Counsellours and that as it were a rout of Tyrants doe governe The reasons and pillars of which Oligarchie are immoderatenesse Oligarchie a corrupt regiment excessivenesse disparitie and inequalitie passing and beyond all meane and measure Now if our reverend Bishops shall shew themselvea to be male contented with mee as though out of the opinions of these learned men I woud gather that the government of the Church by Prelacie is one of he corruptest governments I am to desire them to have patience
untill hey shall plainly demonstrate unto us that the same is not Oligarchy For if hereafter they shall revoke their former disgracefull judgements against the discipline by Pastours and Elders containing in it the very nature of true Aristocracie and wiâ—hall instruct â—s better of the true nature of their owne government of the Church by Prelacie they shall find us filyable to their opinion so that it be grounded upon the principles and reasons of truth In the meane season after the fashion of the Admonitors manner of admonishing the people wee most humbly beseech the King and Parliament to be enformed that it is greatly to bee feared if Prelacy bee Oligarchie that the Prelates It is to bee feared least by the example of Prelates Oligarchie be brought in the common-weale will endeavour to transferre that manner of government from the Church unto the Common-Weale And that the Common-Weale shall as miserably be rent and torne with factions and uproares as now the Church is disquieted by schismes and divisions For if onely a few of the richest and welthiest sort shall get an head and beare all the sway in the Common-Weale they shall think by the Principles and reasons of Oligarchie that they have injuâ—y if they have not as much to doe in civill mattes as the Prelates have to doe in the matters of the Church And what hereof may follow as the Admonitor leaveth so doe I also leave it to the judgment of other Only if the way hereof already hath beene troden A caveat against Oligarchie out unto them by some who have not written nor spoken but yet practised the principles and reasons of Oligarchie in the Common-Weale onely then this I say and adde as a Caveat that the danger to come is more heedfully to be prevented For like as in good harmony to make the Musicke perfect is required a moderate and proportionate inequality of voices which if it too much exceed taketh away all the sweet melody so by too much immoderate inequality or disparitie of Citizens the Common-Weale falleth to ruine But why may not the Government of the Church by Prelacie The government of the Church by Prelacy is not Monarchicall be a Princely and a Royall Government Indeed this question if it should bee resolved by the Rules and Principles of the Canon Law I could hardly disprove that government to be Princelike for as hath been said before quilibet Ordinarius in Diocoesi est major quolibet Principe Yea and every Bishop by the same Law hath as absolute a spirituall power within his Diocesse as a King hath a temporall power within his Kingdome But because that Law with the rules and principles thereof is or ought to be discarded out of this Kingdome we will not wade in it Only wee say that the government of the Church by Prelacy cannot bee any kinde of Royall and Monarchiall government because Prelates have not like power spirituall as Kings and Monarchs have power temporall For there was never yet lex regia de Praelatorum spiâ—ituali imperio lata qua Praelatis in eos omne imperium suum potestatem aut Deus aut Institut de jure natur gent ci § Sed quod populus Dei contulerit And therefore where the people have made the fore said regall Law as there it is justly said quodcunque Imperator per Epistolam constituit vel cognoscens decrevit vel edicto praecepit legem esse constat and quod Principi placuit legis habet vigorem So likewise where there is no such regall Law made in the Church there it is justly affirmed quod Praelato placuit legis non habet vigorem quodcunque Praelatus per Epistolam constituit cognoscens decrevit vel canone praecepit legem non esse constat And then how can every Prelate or why doth every Prelate by his sole authoritie injoyne Canons Articles Injunctions and orders to bee observed as Lawes in all the Churches of his jurisdiction If the Admonitor supposed the government of the Church by Prelacy to bee Monarchiall because the Queene was a Monarch and that If the government of the Church by Prelacy be Monarchicall theÌ„ may the government by pastors beâ— so to the Reverend Bishop governed under a Monarch then what did he else but put a weapon into the hands of Pastors and Elders to prove their government also to be Princely and Monarchiall Because Pastors and Elders desire not to have that manner of government to bee brought into the Church otherwise than by the Royall assent Soveraigne authoritie and expresse commandement of Our most Gratious King and Monarch Besides if any government may bee therefore said to be a Monarchy because the same is derived from an earthly Monarch how much more than may the government of the Churches by Pastors and Elders bee adjudged Monarchicall by reason the same is deduced from our heavenly and everlasting Monarch For the Reverend Bishops by their publike M. Horne bishop of Winch. M. â—ewell bishop of Sali M. Bilson bishop of Winch. preachings and apologeticall writings testifie that power and authoritie to ordaine and depose Ministers to excommunicate and to absolve to devise and to establish rites and Ceremonies in the Church to define what is truth to pronounce what is falsehood to determine what is schisme and to condemn what is heresie our Reverend Bishops I say confesse this power to be originally decided unto the true Bishops and Pastors of the Church from the Kingly and Soveraigne power of our Saviour Christ By what name therefore soever the government of Pastours and Elders in the Churches be called there is no manner of cause to dislike of the planting of that government in a Monarchy because the same is instituted by No cause for a Monarch to feare that his Christian subjects should have the sense of Aristocracy in Church government the Monarch of Monarches who is able and ready to uphold the state of all Monarchies in Common-Weales together with the state of Aristocracie in his Church Neither is there any cause for any Monarch in the world to feare the making of Christian common people by familiar expâ—rience to have the sense and feeling of the principles and reasons of Aristocracy For if a people have once submitted their neckes to the yoke of Christ they can live a peaceable â—nd godly life under all kindes of powers because they know all kind of powers to be the ordinance of God But especially there is not neither ever was neither ever can there be any cause for any King or Monarch of England greatly as the Admonitor insinuateth to feare that the common people will very easily transferre the principles and reasons Aristocracie to the government of the Common-Weale and thereupon be induced to thinke that they have injury if they have not as much to doe in civill matters as they have in matters of the Church seeing they also touch their commoditie and benefit
the Realm of Ireland of the K. highnesse most honourable privie Councell chosen by him for the assistance of his Royal person in matters appertaining to his Kingly estate and lastly of the supreme and grand Councell of the three estates in Parliament for matters concerning the Church the King and the common weale For whether respect be had unto the secret affaires of the Kings estate consulted upon in his Highnesse Councell Chamber by his privie Councellers or whether we regard the publike tractation of matters in Parliament there can be no man so simple as not to know both these privie and open negotiations to be carried by most voices of those persons who by the K. are called to those honourable assemblies And what a vaine jangling then doth the Admonitor keepe and how idely and wranglingly doth he dispute when against the government of the Church by Pastours and Elders hee objecteth that the same will interrupt the lawes of the Realme that it will bee great occasion of partiall and affectionate dealing that some will incline to one part and that the residue will be wrought to favour the other and that thereby it will be a matter of strife discord schisme and heresies Howbeit if never any of these extremities and dangers have fallen out in the common weale by any partiall ot affectionate dealing of the Kings Deputies Presidents Judges Justicers and other Officers and Ministers associated unto them for the administration of Justice or equitie in any of the Kings civill Courts how much lesse cause have we to feare any partialitie affection working inclination favour strife debate schismaticall or hereticall opinions if once Pastours and Elders in every Congregation and not throughout a Diocesse one Bishop alone had the spirituall administration of the Church cause Can many temporall Officers Justicers and Judges rightly and indifferently administer the Law and execute jâ—stice and judgement without that that some doe incline to one part and without that the residue be wrought to favour the other part And cannot spirituall Officers dispatch spirituall affaires without that that they be partially and affectionally disposed What is it so easie a matter that the Ancients of God and the Ministers of Christ can the one part incline to righteousnesse and the residue be wrought to favour wickednesse can some incline to God and unto Christ and can other some be wrought to follow Satan and Antichrist For what other controversie is requâ—red to be decided by Pastours and Elders than the controversie of sin between the soule of man and his God And is there any Christian Pastour or Elder that will be wrought rather to favour the sinne of a mortall man than the glory of his immortall God But to leave the state of the kingdome and common weale and the good usages and customes of the same let us come to the state of the Church it selfe and to the lawfull government thereof established even amongst us at this The government of the Church ought not to be by one alone day For whatsoever our Reverend Bishops practise to the contrary yet-touching ordination and deposition of Ministers touching excommunication and absolution touching the order and rule of Colleges Cathedral Churches and the Vniversities the Ecclesiastical law doth not commit the administration of these things and regiment of these places to any one person alone The Vniversities admit not the government of the Chancellour being present nor of his Vicechancellour The government in the Vniversities not by one alone The government in Colledges not by one alone himselfe being absent as of one alone the Doctors Procurators Regents and non-Regents have all voices and by most oâ— their voices the Vniversitie causes take successe The businesses of Colledges by the statutes of their founders are commended to the industrie and fidelitie of the President Viceprovost and Fellowes unto the Provost and Viceprovost and Fellowes unto the Warden Sub-warden and fellowes unto the Master and fellowes and unto such like Officers and fellowes The Cathedrall The government of Cathedrall Churches not by one alone Churches their livings and their lands their revenues and their dividents their Chapiters and their coâ—ferences depend upon the will and disposition of the Deane and Chapiter and not of the Bishop alone Neither can the Bishop alone by any ancient canon law pretended to be in force place or displace excommunicate or absolve any Ecclesiasticall person without the judgement of the Chapiter Ex de exces Prela c. 2. Exc. de hiis quaes cons cap c novit And aswell by a statute 21. H. 8. c. 13. as also by the booke of consecrating Archbishops c. the presence of divers Ministers and the people is required at the ordiâ—ation of every Minister As for the deposition or degradation of Ministers under the correction of the reverend Whether the degradation of a Minister be warrantable Monsieur de â— Iesis 164. in the 2 book of the Masse Bb. be it spoken I think they have not so much as any colour of any law for it The form of the degradation of a popish and sacrificing Priest by the Canon law can be no pretext to degrade a Minister of the Gospell because a Minister of the Gospell is not set into his charge per calicem patinam with a cup full of wine and dish full of hostes neither receiveth hee any character at all of a shaveling priest And because a Minister of the Gospell is ordained only after that manner which the statute law hath appointed how should the ordination made by so high an authoritie be undone by any other power unto the former manners of the administration of the causes of the Vniversities Colledges and Cathedrall Churches may be added the execution of Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction committed The ecclesiasticall Commission exercised by many commissioners and not by one heretofore by the Queen unto the Ecclesiastical Commissioners For althought by the words of the statute her Highnesse had full power and authoritie by her letters patents to assign name and authorize any one person a naturall borne subject to execute spiâ—ituall jurisdiction yet neverthelesse according to the laudable usages and customes of her Kingdome and courts temporall she evermore authorised not one alone but divers and sundry aswell temporall as Ecclesiasticall persons for the execution thereof Which manner of The ecclesiasticall commission commanded by the Bishops if it please the King may be enlarged unto all parishes wherin are godly preaching Ministers commission because the reverend Bb. commend the same and avow that it would do more good if it were more common it cannot but seem to be a most gratefull thing unto all good men especially unto those reverend Fathers if humbly wee beseech the king that his highnesse would be pleased to make it more common And therfore in the behalfe aswell of the reverend Bb. as of all the learned and grave Doctors and Pastours of every Church we most instantly
Bishop to demand of the Minister only this and no more viz. whether will you give all faiâ—hfull diligence to minister the Doctrine and Sacraments of Christ There is therefore some other kinde of Discipline of Christ intended by the Parliament to The Parliament intendeth some other disciplinâ—â—â—han of declaring by doctrine be attributed unto every Minister and wherewith also the law of the Realme doth enable every Minister than is this manner of discipline oâ— declaring by doctrine and teaching the people And this discipline also must needs be understood to be of the spirituall censures of the Church because Christ never instituted any other discipline And therefore because our opposites agree with us in a generalitie that the doctrine Sacraments and discipline of Christ are to be ministred as the Lord hath commanded only and none otherwise and yet neverthelesse doe dissent from us touching the persons Answer to the abstract 55 60 by whome this discipline is to be ministred because say they every particular ceremonie rite or circumstance of externall policie are not set downe in Scripture because of this their answer I say it is to be considered First unto what persons the function of the ministration of the discipline of Christ by the holy Scriptures is committed Secondly whether the same persons with their functions bee arbitrable ceremonious â—â—â—rituall or circumstantiall To what persons the discâ—pline of Christ by the Scriptures is committed and whether the persons be arbitrable or no Phil. 1. 1. Tit. 9 5 7 to bee altered and changed by authoritie of the Church as things indifferent yea or no. To the first seeing to one and the selfe same person the holy Scriptures attribute these two names Bishop and Pastor thereby signifying what are the two duties which belong to the same one person and seeing also no one person by Gods word is called a Bishop or Pastour in regard of his fellow brethren the other Bishops or Pastours but in regard of his owne flocke which hee overseeth and seeing also in well ordered Churches by the Ordinance of God certaine men of approved godlinesse 1 Tim 3 1 called according to the common name of the Hebrewes by the common name of Elders whom partly calleth Governors 1 Cor. 12 28. were joyned as Ecclesiasticall Magistrates to the Bishop Pastor or teaching Elder by whose common direction and authority Ecclesiasticall discipline was practised seeing I say these things are so we affirme that the persons to whom the ministration of the discipline of Christ rightly belongeth are the persons onely above specified and none other And further we say if any spirituall Discipline or The Discipline of Christ pâ—ophaned if the same be ministred by other persons than the holy Scriptures do appoint power which directly be longeth unto the Conscience be ministred in the Church by any other persons than by those persons onely that the same Discipline is not to bee called the Discipline but a meere prophanation of the Discipline of Christ For as it is unlawfull for any person to usurpe any part of the Bishops or Pastors office which consisteth in spirituall teaching the word and administring the Sacraments so is it also unlawfull for any person to usurpe any part of a Bishops Pastors or Elders office which consisteth in spirituall rule and government Whereupon it secondly followeth that the same persons with their functions are not arbitrable ceremoniall rituall and circumstantiall as things indifferent to bee altered by the authority of the Church but perpetuall substantiall essentiall and as it were the very maine and fundamentall pillers to uphold and stay the House of God from all spirituall sliding and falling downe And therefore from the execution of the Discipline of Christ we seclude the persons of all humane Archbishops humane Bishops Suffrafanes Arch-deacons Chancellors Commissaries Officials and all Rowland Allens because their persons together with their functions are arbitrable ceremonious rituall traditionall or circumstantiall yea and removeable at the pleasure of the King and State Neither doth this disagree from that which was erst said of a A Bishop Pastor and Elder and our Lord â— diffr Bishop or Pastor that they be all one in respect of their function For it is not said that an humane Bishop and Pastor but that a Bishop and Pastor are all one For a Bishop simply so called is not a Bishop and Pastor in respect of his fellow brethren but only in regard of his flocke which he over-seeth feedeth and ruleth But a What a Lord â— is humane Bishop is hee that is promoted unto this dignitie by man and who by mans authority taketh upon him superiority and preheminence over them which are equall unto him touching their function that intangleth himselfe with civill government and worldly affaires and whose Bishoply office consisteth not so much in the dispensation of Gods Word and Sacraments as in Lordly and Bishoply apparell Crossing with the signe of the Crosse confirmation of Children sole imposition of hands sole excommunication sole enjoyning of Articles upon the people and Clergie of his Diocesse consecration of Oratories delegation of his Episcopall authority to his Suffragane Vigar generall and principall officiall and other such humane and Bishoply functions All which are after the customes precepts and traditions of men And albeit D. O. by vertue of the Queenes congedelier were chosen by the Deane and Chapter of Lichfield in Episcopum Pastorem Ecclesiae Lichfieldensis The Lord Bishop of Lichfield is never honored with the title of being Lord Pastor Pastorall authority of a Lord Bishop and of other Pastours is equall yet is hee never intituled with the dignity of being the Lord Pastor but onely with the honour of being the Lord Bishop of Lichfield so that one and the selfe same person being a Bishop and a Pastor may bee a Lord Bishop over Pastors but not a Pastor over Pastors Whereupon it followeth that the Pastorâ—ll authority which he hath in common with his brethren the other Pastors of his Diocesse is of superiority or proheminence above theirs and that touching the function both of his and their Pastorall cure and charge there is a paritie betweene him and them by reason whereof hee can have no power over them because par in parem non habet imperium But why is it that he can not be called Pastor Pastorum Ecclesiae Lichfieldensis Lord Pastor of the Pastors of the Church of Lichfield and yet may be called Dominus Episcopus Pastorum Ecclesiae Lichfieldensis Lord Bishop of the Pastors of the Church of Lichfield Why but only for that there is custome tradition and the Law of man for his Episcopall jurisdiction and for that his pastorall function if he have any belongeth unto hâ—m in common with his brethren the other Pastors jure divino The Whether a lord Bishop minister the doctrin Sacrament discipline of Christ by vertue of his lorldly episcopall or pastorall office
Bishop then having these two severall and distinct offices imposed upon his person the one by divine the other by humane Law the one humane and Episcopall the other without pomp and pastorall there ariseth from thence this question by which of those two functions hee may lawfully I meane according to Gods Law minister the Doctrine Sacraments and censures of Christ If it bee answered that it is lawfull for him by vertue of his Pastorall office to minister the doctrine and Sacraments and by force of his humane Episcopall office to minister the censures of Christ then is not the answer fitted to the question the same being made à bene conjunctis ad male divisa For the censures of Christ as well as the doctrine of Christ being simply of divine ordinance it must follow if his Episcopall power be onely of humane right and pastorall power be onely of divine institution that the censures may bee ministred by authority derived onely from man but the doctrine and Sacraments by power derived onely from God Which commixion of divine and humane right in the execution of the ordinances of God can no manner of wayes be sound pure and sincere and therefore also can not be pleasing unto God For no more can the censures of Christ to the pleasure of God be lawfully administred by the authoritie of any one whose function is of man and not of God than could the sacrifice of God bee offered by one who was a priest of man and not of God Now that humane Episcopality or Bâ—shoppisme in the Church of England is authorized and deduced from Lordly Episcopality authorized only by the Law of the Realme the power and Law of man viz. of the King and Realme alone is evident as well by the donation and endowment of the Bishoprickes founded by the Kingly Prerogatives of the Kings of this Realme as by the erection and establishment of the new Bishopricks of Chester Gloucester Bristoll Peter borough and Oxford with their Cathedrall Churches Seas Cities meeres and bounds of those humane Bishops for the exercise of their Episcopall administration according to act of Parliament authorizing the Kings Highnesse to make Bishops by His Letters Patents Nay further that humane Episcopall Note that King Henry the eight by letters Patents made Bish therefore c. 31. H. 8. c. 9 jurisdiction within the meres and bounds of every Diocesse within England is meerely of humane and not of divine institution appeareth by that power and authority which the King hath in translating and dissolving of Bishopricks in conserving Episcopall jurisdiction sometimes to such persons as be no Bishops as did William the Conqueror when hee gave Episcopall power to the Abbot of Battaile and lastly by the very manner and forme of the nomination licence of Election and authority of investiture confirmation and consecration of Archbishops and Bishops established by the more positive Law of the Realme But if it bee answered 25. H. 8. c. 20 that the Bishop by his humane Episcopall power doth minister the Doctrine Sacraments and discipline of Christ then is the case worse with him than it was before because then not onely the Discipline of Christ but also the doctrine and Sacraments of Christ should bee ministred by that authority which is of humane institution Besides the answer should be untrue because the Bishop at the time of his consecration doth not receive any authority to preach the Word and minister the Sacraments for that authority was then committed unto him when first he was ordained to be a Presbyter But the authority which hee receiveth at the time of his consecration is to correct and punish such as bee unquiet disobedient and criminous within his Diocesse Whereby once againe is that confirmed which was erst said viz. That Episcopall power in England is not of divine but of humane institution Especially for that by the Scriptures it can not be proved that there bee two severall and distinct formes of ordinations the one called consecration proper to a Lord Bishop for the exercise of Discipline the other called ordination peculiar to a Pastor or teaching Elder for the ministration of the Word and Sacraments Whereunto lastly may bee added another maine reason that Episcopall power in If the Lord Bish have power to minister disâ—ipline by divine right then no more can he commit that his power to an other than he can commit the power which hee hath of preaching to another England to minister the Discipline can not therefore bee of divine institution because if it were of divine institution the Bishop could no more surrogate the same his Episcopall power to his Suffragane to his Vicar generall or Rouland Allen to minister the censures of Christ in his owne name than hee can depute them or any of them to minister the doctrine and Sacraments in his own name But how doth it appeare that the Vicar generall Rowland Allen or any other Presbyter did ever excommunicate by the power or in the name of the Bishop For the proofe hereof we shall not need to search any other authenticall record then the precept and the practice before intreated of For it is not said in the precept that the Presbyter being armed with authority from Christ but it is said that the Presbyter being armed with authority from the Bishop or Archdeacon shall denounce the sentence of excommunication the practice also of Doctor Hone every way confirmeth as much For therein Doctor Hone doth not challenge to be an Officer unto Christ but he saith that he is the officiall of the venerable Archdeacon of Surrey and that Master Rowland Allen Presbyter by vertue of his office doth excommunicate the parties who obeyed not his mandates who made not their appearances before him c. If it be answered that Rowland Allen though he be not an immediate officer from Christ that yet neverthelesse he is a mediate officer depuâ—ed to his office by an immediate officer unto Christ viz. the Lord Bishop or Archdeacon then wee reply and say First that the Lord Bishop and Archdeacon be neither immediate or mediâ—te Officers appointed by Christ to bee ministers of his discipline Secondly if they were immediate officers from Christ that yet they have no authority by the Law of Christ to transfer their right or any part thereof to an other person in their name or by their authoritie to excommunicate As for these words viz. In Dei nomine Amen nos Iohannes Hone or nos Roulandus Allen c. sometimes used in their scedule of excommunication it is but a prophaning of the holy name of God whereby they make themselves guilty of the taking of the glorious name of God in vaine And thus much touching both the question and answer whether the discipline of Christ may be ministred by the Bishops humane Episcopall power yea or no. But now on the other side because no divine censure can lawfully be executed in the Church by that authority
which is of humane institution if it be answered that the Bishop by reason Whether L. Bishopâ— by pastorall authority may excommunicate a Pastor of his pastorall power which he is said to have over all the Pastors and people of his Diocesse may lawfully not onely minister the Word and Sacraments but also the Discipline of Christ unto them all then it followeth that by a Pastorall power one Pastour may bee a Pastour of Pastors which is against the Scriptures and contrary to the brotherly and fellow-like authority which is common to all Pastors under the Sunne and betweene whom touching their Pastorall functions there is to this day by the Scriptures as little superiority and as great a paritie as ever there was betweene Apostles and Apostles betweene Prophets and Prophets or betweene Evangelists and Evangelists and as at this day there is betweene Bishops and Bishops betweene Archbiâ—hops and Archbishops or betweene Patriarkes and Patriarkes yea and as is between Earles and Earles Dukes and Dukes Kings and Kings Emperours and Emperours For no greater superiority or preheminence hath any one Pastor over the person or function oâ— an other Pastour touching the administration of any thing properly belonging to either of their pastorall functions than hath one Pastors over small flockes are as truly pastors as pastors over great flocks As great paritie betweene pastors pastor as between Apostles and Apostles Emperor over the person or function of an other Emperor or one King over the person or function of an other King or one Lord Biâ—hop over the person or function of an other Lord Biâ—hop or one Archbiâ—hop over the person or function of an other Archbishop or than had one Apostle over the person or function of an other Apostle Nay then hath one eye over an other eye one hand over an other hand one arme over an other arme or one foot over another foote And therefore if touching the functions which Pastors either among themselves have in common one with the other or which they have over their flockes there be no disparity but that the Pastors to whom small flockes are committed doe as really and as truly participate of the nature of true Pastors as those great Pastors doe upon whose great shoulders great burthens are imposed it behoveth great Pastors to prove unto us by the holy Scriptures that by the institution of their great pastorall function they have their power so enlarged as that thereby they may preach the Word minister the Sacraments and excommunicate and that on the other side the little Pastours have their power by the institution of their petie pastorall offices so streitned as whereby they may only preach the Word and administer the Sacraments but not excommunicate it behoveth I say great Pastors to bee able sufficiently to shew unto us these things out of the holy Scriptures or else it seemeth to stand with reason and equity deduced from the same Scriptures that a Pastor over a few should have like power to teach and to governe a few as a great Pastor over many hath to instruct and to rule many Marry if they thinke that onely great Pastors bee true Pastors and that great powers spirituall bee onely true powers spirituall then let them also conclude that onely great Knights be true Knights that onely great Dukes be true Dukes that onely great Kings be true Kings and that onely great principalities temporall bee true principalities temporall Which conclusion if they shall judge to be conclusionlesse because King Rehoboam had Not only Kings of great kingdomes but also Kings of small kingdomes bee true Kings as large a Patent to feede and to commmand two Tribes as King Salomon his Father had to command and to feede twelve or as the Archbishop of Yorke may suppose himselfe to have over nine or tenne Counties as the Archbishop of Canterbury can have over nine and thirtie or fortie then me thinketh it a matter very reasonably of them to be confessed that all true Pastors whether they be great Pastors or little Pastors may lawfully exercise all manner of such true power spirituall as unto true spirituall Pastors by the holy Scriptures doth appertaine For if Bishops being great Pastors may therefore preach and minister the Sacraments because they be as they say true Pastors then also may little Pastors therefore excommunicate because they bee as the Scripture saith true Bishops Wherefore if the Lord Bishop of London by vertue of his Pastorall office as he thinketh which with his brethren the other Pastors of his Diocesse he hath in common deriveth unto him immediately from the Word of God may lawfully excommunicate then the Pastorall office which Master Doctor Andrews hath over the people of his Parish of Saint Giles without Creeplegate and the Pastorall function which Master Doctor White hath over the people of Saint Dunstones within Temple-barre being as absolutely and as immediately deduced unto them out of the same word what proofe can bee made out of the word that the Bishop being not Lord Pastour of the Pastours of his Diocesse may lawfully by the word excommunicate all manner of offenders both Pastors and people within his Diocesse and yet neverthelesse that neither Master Doctor Andrewes and Master Doctor White by the same word may excommunicate any one of their Parishioners at all Nay further what reason can there bee afforded from the Law of God that Master Doctor Abbot Deane of Winchester that Master Browne Master Barlow and diverse other Prebendaries in the Church of Winchester having certaine parochiall and Pastorall Churches annexed to his and their Deanry and Prebendes and Master D. Grey in his Parish by their pastorall functions should have absolute authority unlesse it bee during the time of the L. Bishops trienniall visitation to exercise the discipline of Christ within their severall and peculiar Churches and yet notwithstanding that neither Master Richman nor Master Burden being both of them grave godly and learned Pastors should have at any time any pastorall authority to exercise any censure at all And as it is in the Churth of Winchester so is it in the Church of Pauls in the Church of Salisbury and in well nigh all the Cathedrall and Collegiall Churches throughout the Realme The Deane Prebendaries and Canons having certaine parochiall Churches exempted from the Bishop within their exempt and peculiar jurisdictions by meere Pastorall authority for Episcopall authority by the Lawes of the Church have they none may exercise all manner of spirituall censures and that as well by their substitutes as by themselves Nay Rurall Deanes in Cheshire c. use some part of Episcopall power Episcopall power to excommunicate granted by papall priviledges or prescribed use Power to excommunicate if it be of divine right may not be prescribed which is more in Cheshire Lancashire Yorkeshire Richmondshire and other Northern parts there be many whole Deanries exempted from the Bishops jurisdiction wherein the Deanes and their substitutes have
that it is an errour by their leave in the Church of Saxony not to have Arch. and Bb. in name if so be they hold it lawfull to have Archb. and Bishops in office For what should a necessary officer doe without a convenient name And touching the Church of Tigure it is not materiall what the same Church doth thinke not tolerable or doth more mislike but what she ought not to mislike or what it ought not to think tolerable And then what a poore proofe is there here made trow we for the confirmation of the corruptions in the Church of England by producing of two witnesses two errours in the Church of Tygure For not to like a Senate of Elders and more to mislike excommunication is more and more to slide out of the right way And sithence we have the whole Christian Kingdome of Scotland the most famous and renowned Church of Geneva and sundry Churches by his confession in other places to be lights unto us and to agree with us in a government not much unlike to that which we desire wee have not onely great cause to rejoyce in this our desires but also to be much comforted and encouraged by these examples by all holy meanes to labour the full accomplishment thereof For by this testimony and by these instances given and produced by himselfe the Admonitor hath quite and cleane weakened and disabled his owne generall position opinion and thoughts of the unnecessaries and inconvenientnesse of having the Apostolicall and Primitive government in the time of Peace under a Christian Magistrate For hath not the free Kingdome of Scotland the free Citie of Geneva and other Soveraigne and free Princes Potentates and powers not being under Tyrants and persecution received the same as being the best the fittest the convenientest and most necessary government yea even in the time of peace and under their Christian Magistracy for the state of their Countrye and disposition of their people And as touching rites and ceremonies we affirme not that every rite ceremony or circumstance to be used in the externall execution of Church governement is precisely set downe in the holy Scriptures but touching the substance of government thus we say and thus we hold viz. that the Officers and Governours appointed by our Saviour Christ to be over the Churches in every Countrey observing the generall rules of decency comelinesse and edification have liberty with the consent of their Christian King or other supreame Magistrate to choose what rites and ceremonies they in wisdome and godlinesse shall thinke most convenient And therefore we grant that the officers of Christ in the use and dispensation of their functions are no more exactly tyed by any direct commandement in the holy Scriptures to use at all times and in all places one only manner of rites and ceremonies than were the Priests of the Law to use all one manner of knives to kill their sacrifices or the siâ—gers to sing all songs after one manner of tune or upon one kind of instrument or then are Kings and Princes in all Countries commanded to use all kind of circumstances in the outward execution of civill justice in their Common-Weales As then as it was lawfull for the Priests to have knives and trumpets of diverse fashions and for the Levites to have their Musicall instruments of diverse formes Nay as sundry Justices of Peace in sundry Shires of the Kingdome are not bound to keep their quarter Sessions all in one day to begin and to breake their Sessions at one instant to stand to sit and to walke whensoever they speake to weare all one fashion hats caps cloakes or gownes and such like so likewise is it with the Bishops Pastors and Elders of the Church In the ministration of Baptisme there is no direct commandement that the vessell to hold the water for the Childes Baptisme should bee of stone of pewter of brasse or of silver whether the Minister should descend to the lower end or the child ascend to the upper end of the Church Whether the child should have a great handfull or a little sponefull of water powred upon his head In the celebration of the Lords Supper it is directly commanded that the people shall stand fit or passe whether it should be celebrated every first or second Sabboth of the moneth whether in the morning at noone or at night In the ordination of Ministers there is no just proofe to be made that any certaine number of Ministers are to lay on their hands that the day of ordination should bee alwayes one that the Minister should bee of such an age or that the prayers should be of this or that length and forme of words And therefore touching these and such like things of indifferency wee agree with the Admonitor and Reverend Bishop that one ferme of externall orders rites and ceremonies is not of necessity to bee in every Church because there is no such order witnessed by the holy Scriptures to be of necessity But touching the joynt and severall functions of Bishops Pastours and Elders that they or any of them should in any age or state of the Church of Christ bee wanting or that such offices as by warrant of the Scripture are coupled together should bee appointed to execute any functions in the Church then such persons onely as for their functions have warant from the holy Scriptures wee cannot in any sort thereunto agree And why forsooth because all both offices and Officers in the Church must only and alonely bee derived from our Saviour Christ as from the only fountaine and bestower of all officers and offices in the House of God And therefore albeit wee should grant as the Admonitor hath said that the outward order used in the Primitive Church touching rites and Ceremonies by Bishops Pastors and Elders is neither necessary nor so convenient as it may be otherwise in the time of peace and under a Christian Magistrate yet we may not hereupon imply as his negative implyeth viz. that Bishops Pastors and Elders or any of them are neither necessary nor so convenient officers or governours as other officers of mans invention might be For which our opinion by the help of God we shall assay as before hath beene mentioned in an other place to lay downe out of the Word of God some just proofes according to the Admonitors request that there ought to be in all ages and states of the Church this outward order and forme of government viz. that Bishops Pastors and Elders ought evermore to be spirituall governours and that evermore they and none other ought to use that essentiall kinde of spirituall government and none other which was practised by the Bishops Pastors and Elders in the Apostolicall and Primitive Church Alwayes leaving the outward rites and ceremonies of their spirituall kinde of governement to bee indifferent as erst hath beene said FINIS Speeches used in the Parliament by Sir Francis Knoles and written to my LORD Treasurer Sir William
that the King chiefly desiring to sustaine the people in tranquillitie and peace and to governe according to the lawes usages and franchises of his land by the assent and expresse will and accord of the Dukes Earles Barons and the Commons of his Realme and of all other whome these things touched ordained that all they c. By which desire of the King and words of the Act wee learne that our soveraigne Lord King Iames may sustaine his people The king with the assent of the nobles and commous may repeale statutes without consent of prelates 25 Ed 3. in tranquillitie and peace and governe according to the lawes usages and franchises of his kingdome though the assent and accord of Prelates bee never required to the enacting of any statute in Parliament Nay such hath beene and yet is the power of the King that with the assent and accord of the Nobles and Commons he hath authoritie to adnull and make voide even those Acts which in favour of Prelacie and assent of Prelates have beene enacted in Parliament As by an Act made in the time of King Edward the third is plainly to be seene For whereas the King by assent of the Prelates Earles c had willed and granted for him and for his heires certaine articles firmly to be kept and holden for ever namely that the Ministers of holy Church for money taken for redemption of corporall penance nor for proofe and accompt of Testaments nor for solemnitie of Mariage c. should not be impeached c. before the Kings Justices neverthelesse the same king in the same yeare with assent of the Earls Barons and other wise men of the Realme and without assent of Prelates revoked and adnulied the same articles againe Again king Richard the second hearing the complaints of his faithfull leige people and by their clamour in divers parliaments of divers abuses crept in against the solemne and devout ordinations of Churches c at the request and complaint of the commons by the advice 3 R. 2 c. 3. 7 R. 2 c. 12. and commonassent of the Lords temporall without mention of any Lords spiritual is said to have ordained That none of the kings liege people c. should take or receive within the Realm of England any procuracie c. And in the eleventh yeare of the same kings raign it is especially provided that the appeals pursuits c. made and given in the same parliament be approved affirmed and established as a thing Act. Mo. R. 2. duely made for the weale and profit of the king and of all the realm notwithstanding that the Lords spirituall and their procurators did by protestation absent them out of the Parliament at the time of the said judgement given And the like protestation being made by the Prelates and Clergie at a Parliament holden the third yeare of the same king it was replyed for the king that neither for their said protesttation The king bound by his oath to do his laws to be made though prelates protest against him or other words in that behalfe the king would not stay to grant to his Justices in that case and all other cases as was used to be done in times past and as he was bound by vertue of his oath at his coronation By all which premises it is as cleare as the Sun shining at noon day that the Lords spirituall be so farre from making any one of the three Estates as that if it please the king they may not bee so much as any member or part of any of the three Estates at all If in the time of king Henry the eight the Lords spirituall being then more in number than the Lords temporall had beene but such principall members of the high estate of Parliament as without whom neither law could The Lords spiritual no principall members of the parliaâ—ent otherwise than as the King pleaseth have beene made Monasterie nor Priorie might have beene dissolved what could the king have done as head and the Commons have done as feet and the Nobles have done as the heart the Liver and the Longs to the dislording and discloystering of the Abbots and Priors the Monkes and the Friers of those dayes In case the Prelates with their armes and with their shoulders with their hands and with their hornes had heaved and shoved and pushed and thrusted to the contrary But to come nearer unto our owne times and remembrances if it cannot be proved that above one Lord spirituall was present in parliament and gave any assent to the enacting of statutes made in the first yeare of the Queenes Majesties raigne deceased but that it bee a No Lords spirituall present in parliament 1 Eâ— cleare case that the ancient jurisdiction preeminences rights and priviledges of the kings Crowne were restored that poperie and superstition was banished and the doctrine of the holy Gospell harboured only by the Queene the Lords temporall and commons what more plaine evidence or better prooâ—e can there be that the Lords spirituall by any necessitie be neither principalls nor accessaries neither branches nor buds nor any essentiall member of the house of Parliament And of this opinion are the soundest Historians and sincerest Divines of our age In the fifteenth yeare of King Edward the third saith Master Fox divers petitions being put up in Parliament against provisions comming Act. Mâ— fol. 320. from Rome the Kings answer and agreement was made in form following viz. It is agreed by the Kings Earles Barons Justices and other wise men of the Realme That the petitions aforesaid bee made in sufficient forme of law Where it is to be noted saith hee that at the grant hereof the consent of the Bishops is neither named nor expressed with the Lords of Parliament and yet the Parliament standeth in his full force notwithstanding At an other Parliament Act. Mo. 525. saith he William Wicham Bishop of Winchester for a slanderous report savouring of a contumelious lye and proceeding of a subtile zeale meaning falshood was so by the Duke of Lancaster pursued that by act of Parliament he was condemned and deprived of all his temporall goods And this seemeth to have beene done saith Master Fox without assent and against the wills of the Lords spirituall for afterward at an other Parliament great suite was made by the Clergie for deliverance of the said Bishop and being asked a subsidie in the Kings behalfe with great lamentation they complained for lacke of their fellow and brother of Winchester and denyed to joyne themselves in any tractation of any such matter And in another Parliament holden at Yorke in the sixth yeare of King Edward the third all such Act. Mo. 519. lawes as then passed and were concluded by the King Barons and Commons were good notwithstanding the absence or malice of the Lords Spirituall For it is recorded saith he that onely the Archbishop of Yorke the Bishop of Lincolne and the Abbots
of Yorke and Silby were there present In a booke intituled the burning of Pauls Church in London 1561. and in the fift question moved by a papist it is said that this manner of ministration of Sacraments set forth in the booke of Common prayers was never allowed nor agreed upon c. no not by the Clergie of England at the last Parliament but only it was agreed upon by the Laitie which had nothing a doe with spirituall matters or causes of religion Whereunto the reverend Father Master Pilkington Bishop of M. Pilkington Bishop of Durisme Duresme answering was there not saith he a disputation for Religion appointed by the Queenes Majestie wherein your Clergie was affraid to utter their foolishnesse in defending their superstition lest they had taken more shame in answering than they did in holding their peace I thinke the Vniversities with so many places of this Realme receiving religion and these other disputing for it may bee counted to be some part of the clergie of the Realme And so it was not received without consent of the Clergie But these were not of the Parliament What then But as Ioash Josaphat Ezechias and Iosias did not make a new Religion but restored that which was defaced and had long lyen buried so our Parliament did not set forth a new religion but restore that which was godly begun before the good K. Edward confirmed by the Parliament and Clergie then c. But nothing can bee concluded as a law by Parliament say they without consent of the Clergie there present But this having not their consent cannot be counted a law as they think I had rather saith M. Pilkington leave this to be answered by the Lawyers than otherwise Yet that the world may see that something may be said in it we grant him not this to be true that no law at all can be made without consent of Bishops Look your old statutes of Parliament when Bishops were highest afore Edward the third and ye shall read that they passed by consent of the Lords temporall and commons without any mention of the Lords spirituall which statutes many of them stand in strength at this day Then it may well be gathered that the consent of the Clergie was not alwayes so necessarie as they thinke it The Lawyers Judges and Justicers put in practice and execute these lawes therefore their doings may be a sufficient reason to lead the unlearned what opinion they have of this statutes For Religion except Justice Rastall first executing that and afterward running away may condemne the rest which I trust he may not I thinke they would not execute them except they had the strength and nature of lawes If they doe contrary to their knowledge and opinion they cannot be able to answer their doings but I think no wise men are of this opinion Only these corner creepers that dare not shew their face and would deceive the people go about to deface all good and godly order that displeases them In the dayes of K. Edward they had the like fond opinion that the king could not make lawes in his minoritie untill he came unto full age and to make the people to disobey their Prince Hitherto M. Pilkington L. Bishop of Durisme with whom the most worthy and learned M. Jewell late Bishop of M. Iewel B. of Salisburie Salisburie agreeth in every point The wise and learned faith hee could have told you that in the Parliaments of England matters have evermore used to passe not of necessitie by the speciall consent of the Archbishops and Bishops as if without them no statute might lawfully be enacted but only by the more part of voyces yea although the Archbishops and Bishops were never so earnestly bent against it And statutes so passing in Parliaments onely by the voyces of the Lords temporall without the consent and agreement of the Lords spirituall have neverthelesse beene alwayes confirmed and ratified by the Royall assent of the Prince and have beene enacted and published under the names of the Lords spirituall and temporall Reade saith hee the statutes of King Edward the first there shall ye find that in a Parliament holden at S. Edmundsbury the Archb. and Bishops were quite shut forth and yet the Parliament held on and good and profitable lawes were there enacted the departing or absence or malice of the Bishops spirituall notwithstanding In the Records thereof it is written thus Habito Rex cum suis Baronibus Parliamento Clero excluso statutum est The King keeping a Parliament with his Barons the Clergie that is to say the Archbishops and Bishops being shut forth it was enacted c. In provisione de matrona in the time of K. Edward the third whereas matter was moved of bastardie touching the legitimation of bastards borne before mariage the statute passed wholly with the Lords temporall whether the Lords spirituall would or no. and that contrary to the expresse decrees and canons of the Church of Rome And thus much the most reverend and godly Father M. Iewell Bishop of Salisbury Wherefore to conlude this point against the Admonitors position I dispute thus All those persons who by any necessitie are none of the three estates aâ—d by whose authorities the statutes of England to this day have not stood to leave out the same persons may happily seem a matter of lesse weight than all men do judge it But the Archbishops and Bishops are such persons as by nâ—cessitie are none of the three estates and by whose consents the statutes of England to this day have not stood Therefore to leave out the Archbishops and Bishops may happily seem a matter of lesse weight than all men doe judge it If our Evangelicall Bishops be of that opinion of which the Popish Bishops were viz. that the house of Parliament is an unfit and an unmeet place to have the holy cause of the religion of God debated and concluded upon and that the Laitie without the clergie ought not to conclude any thing in Religion and that in respect hereof their presences their voices and their assents are necessary in the â—arliament If our Evangelicall Prelates I say make this objection then besides that hereby they unseemely unmannerly and unchristianly accuse the whole land of ignorance and blindnesse in religion supposing neither King nor Nobles nor Commons to be able to discern betweene night and day besides this I say so shamefull an abuse of a whole Christian nation I would pray them to remember what the most reverend Fathers Master Pilkington and Master Iewell have answered to such cavillous slanders For what else intended they by many examples and proofes brought for the Parliaments of England consisting of the King the Nobles and the Commons to be lawfull Parliaments and to have right to establish religion but to justifie against Popish scoffers that religion might be conceived and established in Parliament notwithstanding the absence or exclusion of the Clergie Besides since our
spirit of one Prophet But in this platforme there is no mention made of the King if hee be patrone neither is there any institution spoken of and then how can any action of quare impedit be brought to try the right if two Patrons pretend title to the Patronage bâ—sides the Patron by this platforme must fetch his Clerks only from the Universities Schooles of learning and Nurseries of the Ministerie whereas now hee hath libertie to present any Clerke wheresoever or howsoever ordained Againe strife and contention may arise in the Presbyter between the Bishops and the Ministers themselves appointed to be examiners and ordainers which of the two Clerks nominated by the Patron is most worthy to be preferred If both the Patrons Clerks for non-abilities or criminousnes be refused who shal then nominate and to whom shall the election devolve And lastly what if the B. Presbyter shall disallow one for unabilite which indeed is notwithstanding of abilitie to teach to all these difficulties thus we answer If the Kings Majestie be Patrone to any benefice with cure of soules because we judge and confesse him to be a King endowed Touching the Kings patronage with a rare and singular spirit of zeal for the glory of our God with an excellent spirit of love for the salvation oâ— the soules of his subjects to be the Nehemiah of our age sent unto us from above for the building of the walls reedifying of the ports of the House of God which were broken down devoured we for our parts doubt nothing at all nay rather we most certainly perswade our selves his Highnesse having once beene pleaseâ— to prescribe all wholesome and commendable Lawes unto his peopâ—e will also vouchsâ—fâ— much more to prescribe lawes yea and to be a Law uâ—to himselfe And that his Majestie will set this businesse of the Lords house so neare unto his Kingly and Christian heart by the planting of able Ministers in H. de ley fidei 3 l. ex imperfecto all the Churches of his Highnes Patronage a that all other Patrons by his godly example will be excited reaâ—â—ily to walke in the Kings path to weare the Kings colours and to become the Kiâ—gs chief favourers in this so holy a worke And therefore touching the Kings Patronages cum Magistas imperatoria lâ—gibu essesâ—luta videatur we commend them wholly to the Kings most Christian care providence and fiâ—elitie The Bishops institution and writ of Quare impedit wee grant The Bb. institution may cease must cease but in place of institution the election and ordination by the Presbiterie succeedeth and the Clerke nominated by the Patron elected and ordained by the Presbyterie shall have idem jus ad Ecclesiam in Ecclesia which in former times the Clerk presented by the Patron and instituted by the bishop was wont to have If any suit in law happen for the right of Patronage between two or moe Patrons pretending title to the gift of one benefice It seemeth If suit fall out between two patrons what then may bee done that this gift might have far easier and more speedy way of triall by some other writ than â—y the writ of quare impedit for upon this writ many times by negligence or unskilfulnesse of the Atturnies it falleth out that one of the parties is driven sometimes to sit down by great losse and not to have his title tryed at all only for wanâ— of some ceremoniall form noâ— observed in the pleadings of the cause And therefore both Patrons within the time to be limited by the kings writ having nominated their Clerks to the Presbytere as hertofore they presented to the B. we leave it to be considered whether it were not meet and convenient that the Presbyterie should wholly defend â—he election and ordination of either their Clerks untill the right of patronage were finally adjuâ—geâ— before the K. Justices at the common Law upon which judgement passed they might then without scruple or impediment proceed to the full election ordination of that patrons Clerk for whom the judgment was given By which manner of tryall if the action might bee brought in the name of patron against patron the Clerkes should not only bee freed from much obloquie whereunto they are now subject by prosecution of suits at law one Clerke against another but also they should be exempted from all expence labour and turmoile with which heretofore they have incumbred themselves to the hinderance of their studies and decay of their estates by pursuing the Patrons title at their owne charge Neither might the occasion of suit about the right of patronage be any let or hinderance that the Church in the meane time should be left as a Widow destitute of an husband For any one of the Clerkes nominated by either of the patrons might be appointed by the presbyterie to preach the Word and publikely to pray untill the controversie were ended And out of the fruits also of the same Church remaining in the custodie of one of the patrons or sequestred by the king to the use of the next incumbent he might have such allowance as were requisite for the time of his continuance in that place And for the Sacraments if any were of necessitie to bee administred some other Minister neare adjoyning might be provided to administer the same as in many places it hath been and is now daily used in like cases of vacancie That the Patron should be curbed with too hard a bridle as being barred to fetch his Clerks from any other place than from the The curbing of a patron with too hard a bridle answered Vniversities or other Schools and nurceries of learning is a matter if it be well weighed of lesse importance than the Admonitor would insinuate the same to be First it is not of necessitie required that all patrons should at all times fetch all their Clerkes from those places and not from elsewhere For many times it may happen upon just cause for the benefit of the Church that a Clerk already ordained and placed in one Church may be removed from the same to another But only the meaning is according to the Lawes and canons alreadie setled that the greatest part of the patrons Clerks must of necessitie be called thence because they can not elsewhere be had Now then whereas the law intendeth every Church to be a wife and to have an husband to be a bodie and to have an head the law as a parent unto the Church hath provided untill she be widow indeed that no husband be provided for her And therefore by sundry â—â— de prebend c. tuis l. 6. de prebend fi Episcopus as well ancient Decrees as by Canons of Discipline made and published by the Bishops 1571. it is decreed and confirmed That the Bishop shall lay his hands on none or at any other time but when it shall chance some place of ministration is voide in the same Dioces