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A81501 The Discipline and order of particular churches, no novelty. Proved from Scripture, reason, autiquity, and the most eminent modern divines. Or, A discourse of the church, in a scripture notion, with her extent, power and practice, tending to moderate the minds of men, toward dissenters in matters ecclesiastical, and to acquit such from the charge of innovation, faction, separation, schism, and breach of union and peace in the church, who cannot conform in many things to the rules, canons, and practices of others. / By a Lover of truth, peace, unity, and order. Lover of truth, peace, unity, and order. 1675 (1675) Wing D1558A; ESTC R174652 61,995 98

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this_o practice_n of_o the_o particular_a church_n and_o their_o right_n thereto_o the_o father_n give_v in_o their_o testimony_n also_o a_o touch_n of_o they_o therefore_o tertul._n in_o his_o apol._n to_o the_o gent._n cap._n 39_o p._n 137._o english_a translation_n say_v that_o in_o these_o assembly_n there_o be_v bishop_n that_o preside_v they_o be_v approve_v of_o by_o the_o suffrage_n of_o they_o who_o they_o ought_v to_o conduct_v so_o say_v many_o other_o 95._o possidon_n in_o vita_fw-la aug._n cap._n 4._o leo._n 1._o epist_n 95._o quote_v by_o the_o magdeburg_n divine_v cent._n 2._o cap._n 7._o col_fw-fr 134_o 135._o cent._n 1._o lib._n 1._o cap._n 4._o col_fw-fr 179._o cent._n 3._o cap._n 6._o col_fw-fr 146_o 147._o the_o roman_a presbyter_n in_o their_o epistle_n to_o cyrian_a affirm_v that_o every_o church_n have_v a_o like_a power_n of_o choose_v call_v and_o ordain_v minister_n and_o for_o just_a cause_n again_o to_o depose_v they_o 68_o cyprian_a lib._n 1._o epist_n 4._o aug._n epist_n 100_o cyprian_a epist_n 68_o and_o cyprian_n himself_o say_v that_o the_o right_n of_o choose_v such_o as_o be_v fit_a and_o refuse_v the_o unworthy_a belong_v to_o the_o people_n and_o whole_a church_n and_o that_o by_o divine_a authority_n and_o that_o the_o officer_n and_o people_n do_v consult_v about_o it_o with_o common_a consent_n and_o for_o these_o thing_n he_o be_v quote_v by_o the_o magdeburg_n writer_n cent._n 3._o cap._n 7._o col_fw-fr 153.173_o 174_o 175._o cap._n 6._o col_fw-fr 135_o 136.146_o and_o also_o that_o the_o people_n do_v consider_v the_o life_n and_o manner_n of_o the_o person_n to_o be_v choose_v and_o judge_v and_o much_o more_o to_o this_o purpose_n in_o those_o place_n before_o 11._o john_n ferus_fw-la a_o friar_n in_o his_o comment_n upon_o act._n 11._o and_o magdeburg_n cent._n 5._o cap._n 6._o col_fw-fr 178_o 179_o 180._o now_o we_o shall_v add_v a_o few_o testimony_n and_o judgement_n of_o latter_a age_n and_o of_o man_n otherwise_o differ_v the_o papist_n themselves_o at_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n acknowledge_v that_o this_o be_v the_o usual_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n for_o 800_o year_n together_o after_o christ_n for_o the_o particular_a church_n to_o choose_v their_o own_o minister_n and_o they_o then_o affirm_v that_o there_o be_v remain_v at_o that_o day_n the_o record_n thereof_o at_o rome_n and_o they_o then_o and_o there_o desire_v that_o those_o record_n may_v be_v destroy_v lest_o luther_n who_o maintain_v this_o right_n to_o the_o people_n shall_v make_v use_n of_o they_o to_o bring_v in_o the_o custom_n into_o the_o church_n again_o and_o they_o there_o also_o acknowledge_v that_o this_o be_v take_v from_o the_o church_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o council_n only_o who_o make_v a_o decree_n against_o it_o ●76_n see_v the_o conference_n of_o rayno'd_n &_o hart_n c._n 6._o p._n 223._o hart_n say_v out_o of_o genebrard_n that_o clemens_n take_v not_o the_o bishopric_n by_o the_o council_n of_o the_o lord_n lest_o the_o example_n of_o take_v it_o by_o nomination_n of_o peter_n shall_v pass_v to_o posterity_n and_o derogate_v from_o the_o free_a providence_n of_o the_o church_n in_o choose_v of_o her_o own_o bishop_n geneb●ard_n chronolg_n l._n 3._o in_o lin._n see_v more_o l._n 4._o seculo_fw-la 11._o cite_v in_o the_o same_o confer_v cap._n 7._o l_o ●76_n council_n trident._n in_o english_a lib_n 7._o p._n 590_o 591.598_o see_v more_o of_o the_o same_o council_n lib._n 8._o p._n 725._o and_o he_o that_o write_v this_o history_n complain_v against_o rome_n about_o this_o in_o these_o word_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n grant_v not_o the_o people_n the_o election_n of_o their_o minister_n which_o certain_o say_v he_o be_v a_o apostolical_a institution_n continue_v more_o than_o 800_o year_n council_n trident._n lib._n 2._o p._n 163._o bishop_n jewel_n in_o his_o reply_n to_o mr._n harding_n p._n 230._o say_v out_o of_o cyprian_a lib._n 1._o epist_n 4._o that_o the_o bishopric_n be_v bestow_v upon_o sabinus_n by_o the_o consent_n and_o voice_n of_o the_o whole_a brotherhood_n of_o that_o church_n to_o which_o he_o be_v to_o be_v bishop_n he_o there_o say_v that_o honorius_n the_o emperor_n write_v to_o boneface_v do_v agree_v he_o to_o be_v bishop_n who_o some_o of_o the_o clergy_n and_o whole_a brotherhood_n shall_v choose_v and_o the_o bishop_n himself_o then_o there_o affirm_v from_o hence_o that_o every_o particular_a church_n be_v call_v the_o whole_a church_n and_o after_o in_o p._n 282._o the_o bishop_n affirm_v that_o cyprian_a in_o the_o same_o place_n say_v that_o the_o people_n be_v obedient_a to_o god_n law_n have_v power_n especial_o to_o choose_v worthy_a or_o refuse_v unworthy_a priest_n mr._n stillingfleet_n in_o his_o irenicum_fw-la p._n 306._o quote_v tertul._n exhort_v castil_v c._n 7._o for_o these_o word_n that_o all_o the_o difference_n between_o the_o minister_n and_o people_n come_v from_o the_o church_n authority_n and_o again_o p._n 416._o himself_n say_v that_o episcopal_a man_n will_v hardly_o find_v any_o evidence_n in_o scripture_n or_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o church_n consist_v of_o many_o fix_a congregation_n for_o worship_n under_o the_o charge_n of_o one_o man_n nor_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n for_o the_o ordination_n of_o bishop_n without_o the_o precede_a election_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o at_o least_o consent_n and_o approbation_n of_o the_o people_n so_o much_o he_o allow_v there_o and_o something_o more_o in_o p._n 339._o where_o he_o use_v these_o word_n speak_v of_o elder_n now_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o people_n which_o be_v use_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n be_v grow_v out_o of_o use_n etc._n etc._n by_o which_o he_o confess_v it_o to_o be_v the_o primitive_a practice_n but_o mr._n stillingfleet_n have_v as_o he_o say_v be_v at_o the_o pain_n to_o transcribe_v some_o of_o bishop_n cranmer_n word_n they_o will_v serve_v well_o here_o and_o we_o shall_v again_o transcribe_v so_o much_o of_o they_o as_o speak_v to_o this_o particular_a see_v they_o in_o the_o same_o irenicum_fw-la p._n 391_o 392._o they_o be_v these_o that_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n when_o there_o be_v no_o christian_a prince_n by_o who_o authority_n minister_n of_o god_n word_n may_v be_v appoint_v nor_o sin_n be_v correct_v by_o the_o sword_n there_o be_v no_o remedy_n then_o for_o correction_n of_o vice_n or_o appointment_n of_o minister_n but_o only_o the_o consent_n of_o christian_a multitude_n among_o themselves_o by_o a_o uniform_a consent_n to_o follow_v the_o advice_n and_o persuasion_n of_o such_o person_n who_o god_n have_v most_o endue_v with_o the_o spirit_n of_o wisdom_n and_o council_n etc._n etc._n sometime_o the_o apostle_n and_o other_o unto_o who_o god_n have_v give_v abundance_n of_o his_o spirit_n send_v or_o appoint_v minister_n of_o god_n
word_n sometime_o the_o people_n do_v choose_v such_o as_o they_o think_v meet_v thereunto_o and_o when_o any_o be_v send_v by_o the_o apostle_n or_o other_o the_o people_n of_o their_o own_o voluntary_a will_n with_o thanks_o do_v accept_v of_o they_o not_o for_o the_o supremacy_n imperial_a dominion_n that_o the_o apostle_n have_v over_o they_o to_o command_v as_o their_o prince_n or_o master_n but_o as_o good_a people_n ready_a to_o obey_v the_o good_a councillor_n and_o to_o accept_v any_o thing_n necessary_a for_o their_o edification_n and_o benefit_n and_o again_o that_o the_o people_n before_o christian_a prince_n be_v common_o do_v elect_a their_o bishop_n and_o priest_n thus_o far_o of_o bishop_n cranmer_n which_o word_n of_o his_o as_o mr._n stillingfleet_n there_o affirm_v he_o put_v his_o own_o hand_n to_o and_o give_v it_o in_o in_o answer_n to_o certain_a question_n put_v to_o he_o in_o king_n edward_n the_o sixths_n time_n and_o now_o remain_v upon_o record_n bishop_n 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it_o be_v do_v choose_v minister_n for_o themselves_o or_o to_o itself_o neither_o do_v the_o apostle_n themselves_o say_v he_o ordain_v any_o one_o for_o ecclesiastical_a charge_n only_o by_o their_o own_o authority_n but_o always_o by_o the_o church_n consent_v and_o approve_v act_v 6.2_o etc._n etc._n and_o 14.23_o second_o because_o by_o this_o mean_v the_o church_n own_o liberty_n which_o christ_n have_v give_v to_o it_o be_v keep_v for_o a_o pastor_n or_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v not_o to_o be_v obtrude_v upon_o the_o church_n of_o god_n against_o his_o will_n can._n null_a invit_fw-la distinc_fw-la 61._o three_o because_o it_o serve_v to_o this_o that_o even_o the_o minister_n may_v with_o a_o good_a conscience_n rule_v the_o lord_n flock_v by_o who_o he_o be_v elect_v and_o the_o flock_n of_o the_o lord_n may_v in_o like_a manner_n yield_v themselves_o the_o more_o easy_a to_o he_o to_o be_v instruct_v and_o feed_v than_o to_o he_o who_o beside_o or_o 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