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A40082 Libertas evangelica, or, A discourse of Christian liberty being a farther pursuance of the argument of the design of Christianity / by Edward Fowler ... Fowler, Edward, 1632-1714. 1680 (1680) Wing F1709; ESTC R15452 145,080 382

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in Controversie by when the truth of this Text is questionable upon the same grounds that the truth of the Scriptures in general is Again When they say that the Testimony of the Church is the Ground of this our Faith they tell us that by the Church they mean the Church of Rome and that She onely is the True Church We reply that there are a many Societies of Christians in the World that hold no Communion with the Church of Rome and Each of these calls it self a True Church and therefore how shall we know that they are none of them so but that the Church of Rome alone is They tell us that this Church alone hath the Notes and Characters of the True Church We ask again how it doth appear that those Notes and Characters they give are true and genuine and if they are that their Church onely hath them Here they are forced to fly again to the Scriptures and produce us some which they would have us believe are very pertinent to the purpose though none but those who see by their Light are able to discern any such matter But whether they be to the purpose or no is no part now of our Enquiry but this is that which we shew from hence how still they are intangled in their own Net and Run round in a Circle Yet once again these People would perswade us that there is no knowing the Scriptures to be of Divine Authority but by the Testimony of their Church whenas 't is impossible to know that there is any such thing in being as a Church but by the Scriptures And thus you see what prime Christians these Romanists are what Worthy Catholicks If there were no better Champions than these for the Authority of the Scriptures or the Truth of Christianity Atheists and Infidels long since would have filled all Places As it is well known how they abound in the Popish Countries and most of all in Italy and of all Italy most in Rome And but for Old Mother Ignorance whom they have a marvellous Fondness for as well they may their Holy Mother the Church would by this time have had but a very small number of Children or Friends But I would this had been the worst on 't as alas it is not For Multitudes among them being well aware that they are merely imposed on and being Acquainted with no better than an Implicit Faith and thinking that no more is to be said for Christianity than they learn from them shake off both their Popish and Christian Faith together But we must not let that forementioned Text wholly pass on which is laid such mighty Stress for the proving of the Infallibility of the Roman Church which gives her such a plausible Pretence for the Enslaving of Mens Minds and Understandings The whole Verse runs thus with the Verse foregoing Th●●e things write I unto thee hoping to come unto thee shortly But if I tarry long that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thy self in the House of God which is the Church of the living God the Pillar and Ground of Truth According to Episcopius his reading of these latter words it is not the Church that is here called the Pillar and Ground of Truth but God manifested in the flesh justified in the Spirit c. in the next Verse For he makes that 15. Verse to conclude with living God Verses and Pointings being arbitrary and The Pillar and Ground of Truth to begin the next Verse thus The Pillar and Ground of Truth and without controversie the great Mystery of Godliness is God manifested in the flesh c. But there is no need of using any artifice to make these words unserviceable to the design of proving the Infallibility of the Church of Rome for all that can be gathered from them is no more than this That the Church is the support of that Truth which is necessary to Salvation viz. the Doctrine of the Gospel That which preserveth it in the world is the Churches constant profession of it and standing up for it That is this is the External and Visible means whereby this Truth is kept from perishing and being lost Or according to Grotius The Church doth uphold and lift up the Truth it causeth it not to slip out of mens minds and also to be beheld far and near For the Testimony of many good men who all say that they received these Doctrines and Precepts from the Apostles must needs have great force and efficacy upon those who are not obstinate and contumacious So that First This Great man seems to understand by the Church in this place onely that which was most Ancient But Secondly There is no reason at all to understand by the Church here onely the Church Representative but the whole Body of Christians must necessarily be meant It being called the House of God but the Apostles Bishops and Pastors are called the Builders of the House and Governours never the House it self And besides the Church which is here called the Pillar and Ground of Truth is that over part of which Timothy presided That thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thy self in the House of God c. that is as a Bishop and Pastor in it Thirdly If it should be understood of the Church Representative 't is however intolerable impudence to make it onely the Roman But Fourthly This Text makes nothing to the purpose of Infallibility in the Church of Rome's sence understand by the Church of the living God which Church you please especially if you do not limit it to the First Age As is plain from what hath been said and it needs no more words to make it plainer Now how can we have greater assurance that the Church of Rome is an Arrant Impostor than this one thing gives us viz. That She will not allow us the Liberty of judging for our selves The Great Apostle S. Paul allowed this Liberty to the Corinthians in those words I speak as unto wise men judge ●e what I say 1 Cor. 10. 15. And dare they say that he overshot himself in that saying or passed a mere Complement upon the Corinthians 'T will not be at all strange if they do considering how many worse things several of them have said of this Apostle But I say this Church will not permit us to see with our own Eyes but we must take the whole of our Religion upon trust that is upon her bare word pin our whole Faith upon her Sleeve and receive the most Fundamental Articles upon her Warrant and Authority Nay though she would seem to give us leave to use our Reason in the choice of our Church yet neither doth she this really but what she gives with one hand takes away again with the other in that she will not suffer us to judge of the sence of Scripture and consequently not of those Texts whereby she pretends to prove her self the onely true Church For if we be
but a very small number compared with those for whom he did not die and those for whom he died shall be undoubtedly saved and those for whom he died not shall be undoubtedly damned then I cannot see how the wisest man on Earth can answer this Plea of a wicked man for persisting impenitently in his wickedness viz. If Christ died for me I shall be saved and he will most assuredly at his own time which to be sure is the best bring me over to the obedience of his Precepts by his Omnipotent grace if that be necessary in order to my Salvation But if he died not for me then let me do what I can it will signifie nothing my state is unalterable So that I run no hazard in being careless and neglectful of the concerns of my Soul on supposition of my having an interest in the death of Christ nor is my case one jot the better for my diligence in using the means of Salvation according to my power on supposition of the contrary Now how can we think that the Gospel doth contain such mighty Arguments to perswade us to work out our own Salvation whilest it leaves us utterly unable to answer this Plea that Careless People may and do many of them make for their Carelesness And therefore it highly concerns us to beware of that Doctrine which makes Christ to die but for some Certain Persons as not only most false but as very dangerous The truth is this Doctrine could never gain any considerable Credit in any Church in the World for the first fifteen hundred years 'T was broached with the other concomitant Doctrines by one Lucidus a Presbyter in France about the year of our Lord 500 of which the Pelagian Heresie was the occasion but quickly condemned by two Councils one at Arles the other at Lions About 300 years after it was with the other revived by Godscalcus a person of ill Fame but condemned again by a Council at Mentz But the Doctrine we are defending was Asserted as a Point never doubted of by the Fathers of the first 300 years And is as expresly Asserted in the most Ancient Confessions of the Reformed Churches beyond Sea and also in the Articles Homilies and Catechism of our own Church And those three Holy Martyrs Arch-Bishop Cranmer Bishop Latimer and Bishop Hooper who will be acknowledged by our Adversaries in this Point to be most Orthodox men have as plainly and fully given their testimony thereunto as we can desire Arch-Bishop Cranmer in the Preface to his Book against Gardiner hath these words that Christ made a Sacrifice and Oblation of his body upon the Cross which was a full Redemption Satisfaction and Propitiation for the Sins of the whole World Bishop Latimer in his Sermon on the first Sunday after the Epiphany tells us that Iesus is an Hebrew word which signifieth in our English Tongue a Saviour and Redeemer of all Mankind born into the World And he hath this passage in his Sermon on the Gospel for the twenty first Sunday after Trinity P. 2. of Fol. 208. which would be horribly offensive to many now adays viz. That Christ shed as much bloud for Judas as he did for Peter Peter believed it and therefore was saved Judas would not believe and therefore he was condemned the fault being in him only and in no body else Bishop Hooper in his Preface to his Exposition of the Ten Commandments saith That as the Sin of Adam without priviledge or exemption extended and appertained unto all and every of Adams Posterity so did this promise of Grace generally appertain as well to every and singular of Adams posterity as to Adam As it is more plainly expressed where God promiseth to bless in the seed of Abraham all the people of the World And that these Good men did not hold Contradictions but as they undoubtedly believed that Christ died for all so they also rejected that Doctrine of the Divine Decrees which is inconsistent therewith is plain from the following passages Bishop Latimer saith in his Fourth Sermon on the Third Sunday after the Epiphany That if the most part be damned the fault is not in God but in themselves for Deus vult omnes homines salvos fieri God would that all men should be saved but they themselves procure their own damnation and despise the Passion of Christ by their own wicked and inordinate living Here we may learn to keep us from all curious and dangerous Questions when we hear that some be chosen and some be damned Let us have good hope that we shall be among the chosen and live after this hope c. Think that God hath chosen those that believe in Christ and that Christ is the Book of life c. So we need not to go about to trouble our selves with curious questions of the Predestination of God But let us rather endeavour our selves that we may be in Christ for when we be in him then are we well and then we may be sure that we are ordained to everlasting life But you will say how shall I know that I am in the Book of life How shall I try my self to be elect of God to everlasting life I answer First we may know that we may one time be in the book and another time come out again as it appeareth by David See more that follows to the same purpose Fol. 310. Again in his Sermon on Septuag Fol. 214. saith he God's Salvation is sufficient to save all Mankind But we are so wicked of our selves that we refuse the same and we will not take it when 't is offered to us and therefore he saith Pauci verò electi Few are chosen that is few have pleasure and delight in it for the most part are weary of it cannot abide it for there are some that hear it but they will abide no danger c. Such men are cause of their own Damnation for God would have them saved but they refuse it like Judas the Traitor whom Christ would have had to be saved but he refused his Salvation he refused to follow the Doctrine of his Master Christ. And Bishop Hooper is very full and particular to this purpose in his forecited Preface Saith he Cain was no more excluded from the promise of Christ till he excluded himself than Abel Saul than David Judas than Peter Esau than Jacob Concerning which two Brethren in the sentence of God given to Rebecca there was no mention at all that Esau should be disinherited of Eternal Life but that he should be inferior to his Brother Jacob in this world which Prophecy was fulfilled in their Posterity and not the Persons themselves God is said by the Prophet to have hated Esau not because he was disinherited of Eternal Life but in laying his mountains and his heritage waste for the Dragons of the Wilderness Mal. 1. 3. That Threatning of God against Esau if he had not of wilful malice excluded himself from the Promise
offend any I shall be sorry for it but must withal take leave to tell the offended that it is an Evidence of exceeding great Weakness not to say worse to be Angry with those who endeavour in the Spirit of Meekness to convince us of our Dangerous Mistakes But such is the Fate of Conscientious opposing Popular and Prevailing Errors that it seldom meeteth with better success than kindling the Passions and sharpening the Tongues and Pens too of those who are most obliged to be thankful for it But Wisdom is justified of her Children But however it be taken it was never more seasonable nor ever scarcely so Necessary to do our utmost towards the rectifying of Peoples Apprehensions about matters of this nature when our Contentions and Animosities about little things mostly things very little in themselves and so great a Defection from our Church merely upon the account of such things as are no where condemned by the Law of God nor are opposed by any express or plain Text but by exceedingly laboured and far fetch'd Consequences have given our Adversaries such Advantage against us and do them far greater service than all their open Attempts or secret wicked Plots and Conspiracies through the infinite Goodness of God to us have hitherto done God Almighty grant that that saying be not to be applied to us ere long which was used of our Predecessors the Britains when their intestine Quarrels had occasioned their being Vanquish'd by the Romans viz. Dum singuli pugnant Vniversi vincuntur While they severally contend and quarrel with one another they are all overcome by a Common Enemy I must confess when I consider what Excellent Treatises have of late been published fraught with Unanswerable and the most convincing and affecting Arguments to perswade our Brethren of the Separation to ease us in a great measure of our Fears of Popery or Confusion by Returning to the Communion of that Church wherein most of them were Baptized and when withal I observe what little Success those Treatises have had I have as faint hopes as can be that so small an endeavour as this should do any Service But however it is some satisfaction to my Mind to express my Good Will But we are told by some that we may thank the Church of England if ever the Pope be again our Master and particularly that Principle of Hers we have been now defending viz. that Imposing of Indifferent things in the Worship of God is no Violation of Christian Liberty And that this Principle will open a door to Popish Conformity if we should be once more so unhappy as to be brought into Subjection to the Roman Yoke To these I Reply in the First place That 't is unconceiveable how any thing but Malice or the thickest Ignorance can charge the Church of England with serving the Interest of the Popish Religion For is any thing more Notorious than that almost all the opposition that hath either heretofore or of late been made against Popery hath been by the Bishops and the other Clergy of this Church To say nothing of what the Separating Party have done though not upon that Design to promote Popery which would be as large as unpleasant a Theme to insist on what have they done in defence of the Reformed Religion against Popery Have they all of them put together done the half quarter part of that Service in this kind that One Excellent Dean of our Church hath done Truly I much doubt it And I think I may adventure to say that all the Reformed Churches together can hardly shew of their own so many Learned and Judicious Treatises against the Body and the several Parts of Popery as our single Church can shew of Hers. Again Is any thing better known than that the Priests and Jesuits and Popish Faction do at this time spit all their Venome and bend all their Force against the Church of England and indeed always have done This sheweth that they are well aware though so many among our selves will not acknowledge it but would have the World think the directly contrary that our Church is the most Formidable of all their Adversaries In short Who needs Arguments to convince him that the Church of England is at present our onely Bulwark against Popery As ever since the Reformation she hath been acknowledged by our Brethren beyond Sea to be the strongest and most impregnable upon several accounts But Secondly as to this Principle of our Church that Imposing of Indifferent things in the Worship of God is no Violation of Christian Liberty it is a most weak and ignorant furmise that it should in the least befriend Popery Those little understand what Popery means that think thus For First There is nothing more plainly demonstrable than that many of those things which are imposed by the Roman Church are far from being Indifferent in their own nature but the grossest Corruptions as contrary to the Doctrine and Practice of the first Ages of the Church and which is far more as contrary to the Laws of God and our Saviour Christ as is Darkness to Light I have given a Catalogue in the Design of Christianity of the chief of these with Remarks upon them and thither I refer the Reader that needs satisfaction Secondly Other of Her Impositions which are Indifferent in themselves are made to change their Nature by the Notion under which they are enjoyned by her That Church enjoyns no Indifferent things as such as ours doth all she imposeth as appears by her 34 th Article but as made necessary by Divine Authority She pretending to the Infallible Guidance of the Holy Ghost in all Her Decrees and Constitutions And therefore expects your Receiving them as you do the Holy Scriptures with a Divine Faith and the self-same awful Regard and Reverence I might add too that several of her Rites and Ceremonies are imposed under a most Superstitious notion either as Sacraments conveying Grace or as having some special Virtue in them to atone the Divine Majesty or to scare away the Devil c. Thirdly It is my opinion too that though their Ceremonies were never so innocent in themselves yet the Multitude of them doth make them in the lump to cease to be Indifferent My reason is because it is unconceiveable to me but that so great a Number must needs so employ the Mind in the Worship of God as that it is not possible to be intent thereupon and consequently must frustrate at least in a great measure the Design of Worship But this is no Reason to a Papist who cannot be thoroughly so and acknowledge the necessity of exercising the Mind in Divine Worship For his Holy Mother hath taught him this mad and impious Doctrine That the Sacraments confer Grace ex opere operato from the work Done and so are differenced from those of the Old Testament they conferring Grace ex opere operantis from the work of the Doer as also that a mere general