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A15512 A modest briefe discussion of some points taught by M. Doctour Kellison in his treatise of the ecclesiasticall hierarchy. By Nicholas Smyth Knott, Edward, 1582-1656. 1630 (1630) STC 25779; ESTC S102767 83,544 218

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that_o so_o precious_a aiewell_n for_o which_o we_o ought_v to_o give_v all_o that_o be_v ourselves_o because_o he_o give_v all_o to_o god_n who_o make_v a_o oblation_n of_o himself_o for_o the_o obtain_n of_o it_o be_v it_o not_o holy_a religious_a state_n wherein_o a_o man_n live_v more_o pure_o fall_v more_o rare_o rise_v more_o speedy_o walk_v more_o circumspect_o receive_v divine_a influence_n more_o frequent_o die_v more_o confident_o and_o be_v reward_v more_o abundant_o the_o sixth_z question_n whether_o religious_a as_o religious_a be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n 1_o nothing_o be_v more_o frequent_a then_o that_o some_o person_n who_o i_o dare_v say_v scarce_o ever_o red_a s._n dennys_n nor_o ever_o be_v much_o conversant_a in_o s._n thomas_n of_o aquin_n from_o who_o we_o have_v the_o best_a and_o almost_o only_a treatise_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n will_v be_v discourse_v of_o the_o secular_a clergy_n as_o if_o they_o only_o be_v of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a 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deacon_n etc._n etc._n shall_v not_o be_v of_o he_o hierarchy_n till_o they_o be_v
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than_o secular_a bishop_n even_o ordinary_n although_o no_o doubt_n in_o other_o respect_n bishop_n do_v far_o excel_v they_o 5_o that_o religious_a superior_n as_o such_o be_v of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n s._n bernard_n cite_v by_o m._n doctor_n chap._n 1._o n._n 17._o to_o another_o purpose_n do_v express_o teach_v while_o together_o which_o primate_fw-la patriarch_n archbishop_n bishop_n and_o priest_n he_o put_v abbot_n in_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n say_v as_o that_o there_o in_o heaven_n the_o ●er●ph●●s_n and_o cherubin_n caeteri_fw-la quoqu●●s●ue_fw-la ad_fw-la vangelo_n 4._o 〈…〉_o ca●_n 4._o &_o archangelos_fw-la and_o all_o the_o rest_n even_o to_o the_o angel_n &_o archangel_n which_o m._n doctor_n translate_v all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o angel_n and_o archangel_n as_o if_o seraphin_n and_o cherubin_n be_v angel_n and_o archangel_n strict_o understand_v and_o as_o they_o be_v of_o distinct_a order_n as_o s._n bernard_n here_o take_v they_o be_v order_v under_o one_o head_n god_n so_o here_o also_o upon_o earth_n under_o one_o chief_a bishop_n primate_fw-la or_o patriarch_n archbishop_n bishop_n priest_n or_o abbot_n and_o the_o rest_n in_o the_o same_o manner_n behold_v according_a to_o s._n bernard_n abbot_n as_o distinct_a from_o bishop_n and_o priest_n belong_v to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n yea_o he_o give_v the_o true_a reason_n thereof_o namely_o because_o all_o be_v order_v under_o one_o chief●_n bishop_n christ_n vicar_n and_o here_o i_o have_v reason_n to_o complain_v of_o m._n doctor_n deal_v in_o the_o say_a place_n for_o allege_v s._n bernard_n as_o if_o he_o say_v that_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n be_v perturb_v when_o abbot_n be_v subtract_v from_o the_o bishop_n jurisdiction_n whereas_o s._n bernard_n in_o the_o very_a same_o place_n which_o m._n doctor_n cite_v do_v in_o express_a word_n approve_v the_o exemption_n of_o abbot_n from_o bishop_n and_o only_o dislike_v exemption_n procure_v out_o of_o a_o spirit_n of_o disobedience_n pride_n and_o ambition_n his_o word_n be_v nonnulla_fw-la tamen_fw-la monasteria_fw-la sita_fw-la in_o diversis_fw-la episcopatibus_fw-la quòd_fw-la specialiùs_fw-la pertinuerint_fw-la ab_fw-la ipsa_fw-la sva_fw-la fundatione_fw-la ad_fw-la seden_n apostolicam_fw-la pro_fw-la volunt_fw-la be_v fundatorum_fw-la quis_fw-la nesciat_fw-la sed_fw-la aliud_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la largitur_fw-la devotio_fw-la aliud_fw-la quod_fw-la molitur_fw-la ambitio_fw-la impatiens_fw-la subicetionis_fw-la nevertheless_o who_o can_v be_v ignorant_a that_o some_o monastery_n seat_v i●_n diverse_a bishopric_n have_v from_o their_o very_a foundation_n particulary_a belong_v to_o the_o sea_n apostolic_a according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o the_o founder_n but_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n what_o devotion_n bestow_v and_o another_o what_o ambition_n not_o brook_v subjection_n do●h_v attempt_v but_o do_v m._n doctor_n indeed_o think_v that_o pope●_n perturb_v the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n by_o exempt_n religious_a man_n from_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o bishop_n or_o will_v he_o father_n on_o s._n bernard_n a_o thing_n which_o neither_o himself_o nor_o any_o good_a catholic_n will_v avow_v mauclerus_n also_o who_o m._n doctor_n in_o his_o 10._o chapter_n n._n 23._o style_v a_o learned_a doctor_n of_o sorbon_n 5._o mancler_n de_fw-fr monarchia_fw-la 1._o partis_fw-la l._n 5._o cap._n 5._o compare_v superior_n in_o religion_n to_o the_o principality_n secular_a pastor_n inferior_n to_o bishop_n to_o archangel_n and_o priest_n not_o curate_n to_o angeles_n so_o that_o this_o learned_a divine_a not_o only_o place_v religious_a superior_n in_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n but_o also_o prefer_v they_o before_o secular_a pastor_n &_o other_o priest_n not_o pastor_n as_o in_o the_o celestial_a hierarchy_n principality_n be_v a_o order_n above_o archangel_n &_o angel_n but_o let_v we_o now_o out_o of_o s._n deunys_n &_o s._n thomas_n prove_v that_o 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