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A84069	The great earthquake, Revel. 16. 18. or, Fall of all the churches. Discovering the apostasie of purest churches, not yet sensible of their spiritual whoredoms, EZek. 43.9, 10. Or, The great whore made bare and naked before she be judged, and her flesh burnt with fire, Rev. 27. 16. Proving, that none indeed deny the ordinances of Christ, but present churches not being in a Gospel-order. By William Erbery.	Erbery, William, 1604-1654.; J. W.	1654 (1654)	Wing E3227; Thomason E806_7; ESTC R207174	48,514	64

state of a Gospel Church to be instituted the Apostles and Disciples were to waite for the Baptisme of the Spirit before they should sit downe in Church-fellowship or performe any Gospel Ordinances Act. 1.4 Act. 2.47 yet their abiding or waiting then was not many dayes hence But the Church being since fallen away and lying under the Apostacy having lost that Gospel glory and manifestation of the spirit in manifold gifts not appearing The saints are called upon to abide for God many dayes to wait with patience for the second coming of Christ and appearance of the Great God that was the Lord their God and David their King ver 5. For the children of Israel shall abide many dayes 400 yeers saith Junius without a King and without a Prince and without a sacrifice c. that is all the days that men finde themselves in the Apostacie they must abide for God without any Ordinance or sacrifice without any Church-Officer or King Yea but the discoveries of God in the Saints in the later dayes that 's the anoynting shall take off the yoke from off their neck and the burden from off their shoulders that Saints shall be no more embondaged to fleshly forms nor burdened with carnal Ordinances nor yoked to Church-fellowship any more What some Saints scoff at others and others say of themselves that they are above Ordinances I cannot judge nor condemn but for my part I do not profess my self above Ordinances but far below them in mine own feeling though I may be above in the favour and knowledg of God yet as far as I know I am below any Gospel Ordinance having not that manifestation of the spirit that was alwaies with them in the Churches nor that presence and power of the spirit appearing in me as was in them to carry me up from living in Ordinances to live in God alone nor yet that testimony of the spirit to tell me that in the use of Ordinances as they are I may be preserved pure from that uncleanness which sticks upon them through the Apostacy for if every thing in the Church is counted unclean by God which is not wholly according to his word the Independant purest Churches are not clean not being conformed to the first Churches of Christ in any Gospel-Ordinance nor Order but meer forms and confusion in all therefore it is that I am thus a non-conformist still and separate my self from the Churches and their Ordinances as unclean Common prayers and the prayers of Churchs are both alike to me the Prelates weekly Friday-Fasts and the Presbyters monthly Wednesday-Fasts yea the Independant Feastings and daies of thanksgiving are but as the holy daies of Bishops so is their Order Ordination and every Ordinance or work of their hands saith the Prophet it is unclean as we shall shew anon from Haggai 2.14 Truly 't was this that called upon me Depart depart touch no unclean thing For that life and peace which once I found in Ordinances is departed from me and my self dead unto them as I believe many others are though some Saints have still satisfaction and sweetness in them and God seems to accept their prayers yet this is no more then was before when in our ignorance we used common Prayers and mixt Communions c. How sweet and satisfactory was God then unto us though the use of those carnal Ordinances was as unclean as the high places were of old to the people of God God appeared to Solomon in Gibeon though that great high place was never appointed by God for his people to worship in but was contrary to his revealed will yet he appeared to Solomon as well in Gibeon as in the house of the Lord 1 King 9 2. Thus the Lord God and Father of mercies who is free in his grace abundant in goodness and truth being not bound up to means might appear for a time even comfortably to his people even in Gibeon in corruptest forms and fellowship not that he aprroves them but that in his good pleasure he may manifest his everlasting love the more to his people whose life is in their bloud as well as when they are washed and who look as beautifull before God when they are black as when white and ruddy yea the love of God is the same to the Saints however they are 't is not their best performances that please him but he is pleased and rests in his love yea that love may appear more to his people in lowest performances then in highest attainments And surely though God may bear awhile with this singing of Psalmes yet the time is come that he will say T●ke away from me the noise of thy songs Mark it 't is but a noise that their singing makes and 't is the noise of Babel confusion of tongue in all their Psalms but God who hath silenced that Prelatick Pricksong and is now silencing Presbyterian plain-song will also cause the songs of Independant Churches to cease now indeed they have a jolly time of it here Fasts are turned into Feasts their tears into triumphs 't will be quite contrary when their songs shall be turned to lamentation their mirth to mourning their fulness to famin and their forms to fire to be consumed by the Spirit Now these are Babylons last Plagues Death Mourning Famin and Fire which all the people of God abiding in Babylon shall partake of and as death is the spirits absence from all their fellowships So the spirits presence at the second appearing of Christ shall torment their flesh and burn up all their forms as with fire but mourning and famin comes before First mourning when the joy of the holy Spirit unspeakable and full of glory shall not be heard in their habitations but a fleshly carnal joy built upon creaturely and worldly contents and complyances with worldly powers all which falling the Kings and Merchants of the earth shall cry alas alas that is the principal men and Ministers of Churches shall cry and mourn because Babylon the great City is fallen Again Famin shall follow their Feastings and daies of thanksgiving for these are the Whores delicacies Daies of Fasting was a courser fare fit for their times of persecution but now the Churches having rest and rejoycing together the Lord comes and disquiets the inhabitants of Babylon turning their joy into mourning their fatness into famin For this all the Prophets point at even an extream Famin to come upon all the Churches That 's the extremity of Famin when there is such a want of food that men will eat the flesh one of another Both these shall come to pass upon the Churches First they shall be in want of food that is the means of grace as thep call it shall not be any more their meat not give them any sustenance at all indeed they may as the Prophet saith feed on the wind and follow the Eastwind that is the most hurtfull wind for cotn they may as men in a dream think they

12.12 John 14.19 though a Saint may be so called also Christ being in every one and every one in Christ so Antichrist appears most visibly in particular Churches or in Saints joyned in that fleshly fellowship where the Spirit of Christ or Manifestation of the Spirit not appearing the Church must now be called Antichrist the Man of sinn the great Whore How the Church came to be thus Apostate and when the Apostacy began I have not time at present to declare this secret depending much on what the mind of the Spirit shall make out in the Saints and what may be learnt by Ecclesiastick History by both it is manifest that the manifestation of the Spirit in manifold gifts given to the Church ceasing with the Apostles was the first beginning of Apostasie the Apostle John lived about one hundred years after Christ and the seven Churches of Asia types of the apostate Churches stood up a little longer but before the two hundred years compleat the wisdom and power of man so prevailed in the Church the inventions and traditions of Men were so many superstitious and childish ceremonies in Churches that of the British in Wales being the first Christian Church in the world long before the Papall Church in Rome I say the Apostasie of those Churches was so visible the pride of their Ministers so vile Spelmanantiq Britanic the power of their Synods in Glamorgan and Monmouth-shire so prevailing over the Gentry and petty Kings of that Country the canons of their Clergy so potent yea the Churches there and then so carnall in all superstitious Ceremonies both Jewish and Heathenish as never was more gross in the midst of Popery afterward How this Apostasie prevailed and became so powerfull History will tell you that Antichrist never came to be great till Kingdoms began to be Christian and Christian Kingdoms because they were Christian would needs appear and act as Churches call Councels and Synods condemn Heresies Judg of the Truth and Mysteries of God by the gifts of Men. When Kingdoms came thus to be Churches then Churches began to be Kingdoms That is the mysterie of Antichrist and Man of sin was then also working when nothing but the Spirit nothing but the wisdom and power of God appeared in the Churches of Christ I say then the Mysterie of Man the Man of Sin did work then the Churches did begin to act as Kingdoms yea the very Apostles aspiring to a Prelacy would needs exercise authority as Kings and Rulers of the Nations Luk. 22.24 and the Elders not only to seek preheminence as Diotrophes but to Lord it over Gods heritage or Clergie for so the Church was called 1 Pet. 5.1 3. though afterward the Elders or Ministers appropriated that name to themselves for they indeed alone would be the Church as the Pope with his conclave Prelates in their Convocation and Presbyters in their classis call themselves the Church yea the Elders of Independent Churches also have all the power and doe Lord it over their Churches though the Churches carry the name But after that when He that did let was taken out of the way 2 Thess 2.7 that is when the Spirits presence and power from on high in manifold gifts then appearing which did let and hinder the wisdom and power of Man to be so prevalent in the Primitive Churches I say when that manifestation of the Spirit that which did then let was removed then the Man of sin was revealed then the wisdom and power of man appeared visibly in the Churches I will not mention now the Papall Churches where the Popes save raigned as Kings and Emperors yea were called Gods Neither will I mind the Episcopall Churches when Prelates domineered as Lords not only Lording it over Gods heritage but as spirituall Lords in the Civil State I pass by also the Presbytery their Sun being set at noon day their Directory of Worship Confession of Faith Classicall Government their large and little Catechism with all those great works being even at an end The Independent Churches are those my spirit hath been most carryed out against these two last years but could not come forth in a publique contest till now they are come to power carryed up in pomp and state and fleshly glory wherby they discover themselves by their delicacies to be indeed the Great whore deceiving a world of men their Forms being more refined and her flesh fairer for they are men of great Gifts and Grace too this being that purple and skarlet and precious stones Rev. 17.4 the golden Cup wherein they carry their abomination and cause the Kings of the Earth men of highest place and choicest parts to drink the wine of her fornication i. e. Their false worship and Forms of Doctrine which are the Fornications or flesh of the Whore I wil not repeat all that I have written but this with God I shall make good to the world that These are no true Churches of Christ not Zion but The whore though they seem and speak as the Spouse yet are they not like the Gospel-Churches neither in Spirit nor Form No Ordinance among them in the letter much lesse in spirit according to the Gospel For indeed the first Gospel-ordinance or that which constituted the Church in a Gospel Order was the baptism of the Spirit this being not the bare presence of the Spirit for so all the saints under the Law had the Spirit but the spirit in a Gospel-sense was not yet come or as it is in the Greek The Spirit was not yet John 7.39 til Jesus was glorified Again the abundance of the spirit was not this baptism of the spirit for the Prophets had thus the spirit of Christ and Christ breathed the holy spirit on his disciples after his Resurrection but the baptism of the spirit was not till after the Ascension 1 Pet. 1.11 Jhon 20.22 Act. 1.5 The Apostles with all the disciples 120 by name were assembled together yet were they not in a Church-state not constituted in the order of a Gospel-church till they were baptised with the holy spirit Act. 1.15 2 47. yea the Apostles themselves who had a call and a commission from Christ to teach all Nations and to baptize beleevers could not go forth to perform either till the baptism of the holy spirit was come upon them Act. 2.38 Therefore the baptised churches are very carnal in crying out to their ignorant disciples Oh you must obey the command of Christ and Christs command is that beleevers should be immediately baptized c. Act. 8.6 38. Act. 9.18 True if there were a Minister who had the manifestation of the spirit as all who baptized had But again the first command of Christ before baptism was this He commanded them that they should not depart out of Jerusalem till they were baptized with the holy spirit not many dayes hence Act. 1.5 If the saints could stay a while and wait for the spirit not

departing from Jerusalem Rev. 21.3 that is God dwelling with men if men could be content with God alone live in God onely behold God dwelling in them and they in God they had not run so fast into the Church nor the churches hastned to send forth their Ministers to baptize Isa 52.11 12. there being no Gospel order nor ordinance among them The Gospel-order was in these three things as the Temple had three parts the first is the manifestation of the spirit in manifold gifts 1 Cor. 12.7 Mark 16.18 James 5.14 Secondly A Ministry of the spirit with gifts given by the laying on of hands 1 Cor. 12.28 Ephes 4.11 1 Tim. 4.14 Thirdly The administration of the spirit in all the Ordinances of the Church which were not only Baptism and Breaking of bread but a Psalm a Doctrine a Tongue 1 Cor. 14.26 an Interpretation and Revelation all these also were the Ordinances of Christ for the edifying of the Church but the present Churches have not any one of these not some of them in name or shew therefore sure the edifice is fallen into a confusion into a Babel and the Churches must needs be in an Apostate condition The Apostacie foretold by the Apostle then began when the manifestation of the spirit ceased when the ministry of the spirit was cast down and when that administration of the spirit was trodden under foot and this is a sufficient notoriety or visible signe that all Church Ordinances were changed into a confusion or fleshly performances when the spirit did so visibly disappear and the Gospel-order to be found no more First The manifestation of the spirit in manifold gifts ceasing is spoken of by John Rev. 7.1 where the four winds are held in that it should not blow c. the four winds being nothing else but the fulnesse of the spirit rushing in as a mighty wind at first on the Primitive Church Act. 2.2 and remaining still in the Churches of Christ till the Church came in to spiritual Babylon Therefore the four winds begin to blow when the people of God are brought from thence Ezek. 37.9 Secondly The Ministry of the spirit cast down is also signified Rev. 9.1 where a star fell from heaven to earth ver 1. The falling star is the fall of the ministry of the spirit sent down from heaven now this fell on the earth when gifts of men succeeding those spirituall gifts of God humane Arts and Parts studied Tongues Interpretations and Commentaries became the key of the bottomlesse pit for when the Mysteries of God were opened by the gifts of men in stead of opening heaven they opened hell and a smoke came out of the bottomless pit darkening the Sun and air both Christ and all the means to communicate Christ were darkened thereby ver 2. Thirdly The administration of the spirit in all Gospel-Ordinances after this was trodden under foot Rev. 11. Here the Temple is to be measured c. that is saints though under this spirituall apostacy were still owned of God as those who worshipped him in spirit but as for outward worship and Church-ordinances which are the outward Court ver 2. that was to be given to the Gentiles that is not heathenish Gentiles but Christian Gentiles the most carnal Christians have by continuance in all ages enjoyed the Ordinances of the Church both Baptism breaking of bread for 't was given to them of God as sutable to their fleshly Spirits rather then to the Saints in truth who are the holy City whom these Gentiles and Christians in common have trodden under foot to this day yea not conforming to Ordinances and Doctrines of men not comming to Church has been the cause still of the treading down of the Saints in all Ages and in this also by the Churches themselves who trample on all not in fellowship with them who cannot conform to their forms of Doctrine and fleshly Ordinances for so they are at the best in their primitive and purest order even Gospel Ordinances were but legall things in truth and bodily exercises but now being defiled through the spirits absence they are not only far below Christian duties but the dues of Gentiles and heathenish exercises For so the Protestants have taught that all things in the service of God not according to the Scripture are not only superstitious but profane This I am now with God to prove that there is no Gospel-Ordinance in all the Churches neither in letter or forme much lesse in spirit and truth neither Baptisme nor breaking of Bread nor Prayers nor Preaching nor a Psalme c. First Their Baptizing of Children is so childish a tradition that both the Baptized Churches and some Presbyterian brethren have fully confuted their folly and yet these Churches also come farre short of the truth of Baptisme in the form and end thereof both these we shal prove hereafter that the outward forme of Baptisme was not by dipping but by washing the Disciples feet those that believed went down to the water as t were up to the ancles for the first rising of waters up to the ancles was but a type of that state of Gospel-Saints who should have the first fruits of the Spirit Ezek. 47.3 for the first Churches and Apostles had no more of the Spirit there-they thus were baptized But Secondly the end of Baptisme with water was not that it should abide for ever Joh. 14.16 that was onely the promise of the spirit the spirit or baptism of the spirit was to abide to continue and increase till the waters which were to the ankles should arise to a fulnesse Ezek. 47. to a floud that no man might passe over the baptism of water was to decrease and die in time he must increase saith John but I must decrease Job 3.30 but by the Apostacie the Baptism of Christ the Baptism of the spirit has decreased and the Baptism of water the Baptism of John hath increased and continued to this day Again the Baptism of water which was in the Apostles times was rather by permission then by command 1 Cor. 1.17 an indulgence to the Church that was for the most part carnall as circumcision and many things of Moses Act. 16.3 Act. 21.24 26. did continue for a time in the Gospel-churches so the Baptism of John the baptism of water was not to continue no longer Therefore the doctrine of Baptisms the first principle of Christ is not yet known by any of the Churches who like the whore sitting upon the waters content themselves with the Baptism of water and that in a false way the Presbyters baptise the whole Nation Independents children of beleevers only the baptised Churches dip beleevers indeed but do not baptise them in a true form nor right end not owning baptism of the Spirit at all For this indeed is the baptism of Christ the baptism of the spirit which is not a bare presence of the spirit in graces or in some gifts for

eat abundantly but when they awake their soul is hungry for indeed their best food is but ashes the fire of the spirit having consumed all that was substance strength and life in the means For behold the Lord the Lord of Hosts doth take away from Judah and from Jerusalem the Stay and the Staff the whole Staff of bread and the whole stay of water Esay 3.1 Judah and Jerusalem are all the Churches the purest of them bread and water are the least and lowest means of sustenance as breaking of bread and baptism of water hath been the best support of Churches the stay and the staff upholding their fellōwships and some food they have found formerly in those means though far short of their primitive institution but now the Lord even the Lord of Hosts God appearing in wrath as a man of war against them takes away all their provisions even the whole staff of bread and stay of water there shall be nothing in any means of grace to do them good or give them strength and not only the means but the men of strength men of parts and arts yea all the gods of the earth shall be famished the Lord takes away the mighty man and the man of war the Judge and the Prophet and the prudent and the Ancient and the Captain and the Counceller and the cunning Artificer and the eloquent Orator and the honourable all shall be so famished that neither gift nor grace shall appear nor gift to govern or rule others for they shall be babes and children in knowledg v. 4. nor grace to govern themselves for they shall be oppressers one of another v. 5. This is the extremity of Famin when men oppress and feed one upon anothers flesh when such want of food when mens gifts shall fail that they shall swear to be no Officers nor bear any rule nor take upon them ony place of preferment yea though they be sought unto yet shall they swear I will not be a healer make me not a ruler over his people for in mine house is neither bread nor cloathing 'T is much that men judged fit to rule and bear sway in the world should be so poor and naked as not to have bread nor cloathing This famin and scarcity may come in the letter upon those who are in highest places who are fullest fed and walk in Scarlet but sure 't will be in the spirit fulfilled on all the Churches and upon all their ruling Elders who knowing that all Authority and Power and Rule is going down at the coming of Christ yet contend still about Government the government of the Church is the onely controversie among the Churches not the great Mystery of Godliness God manifest in flesh no matters of Doctrine or worship are questioned by them but the Government of the Church whether the Church or Elders shall rule This the Independant Churches deny though their ruling and teaching Elders be as proud as Presbyters but sure the time is come that men who are so much for Government and Rule shall swear they will be no Rulers nor Ruling Elders any more for I have neither bread nor cloathing in mine house that is they shall confesse that they have scarce enough for themselves scarce so much knowledg and spiritual understanding as to satisfie and instruct themselves muchless to convince and teach others And as there is a famin on their gifts so in grace they are so famished that they fall to oppresse one another that is to eat each others flesh That 's the extremity of famin which comes upon the Churches as another Prophet phraseth it they shall eat every one the flesh of his brother Zaoh. 13. this is spoken of the whole Church and of all the Pastors or Shepherds v. who are called three Shepherds for that was the number of those that were eminent Teachers in the Jewish Church as Junius shews and these three the Prelatick Presbyterian and Independaut Ministers are the only men that have been Teachers in this Church and Kingdom now God will cut off all three in one moneth How By setting them one against another to oppresse and vex and eat the flesh one of another for as the Prelates have formerly eaten up the Priests and all that maintenance for the Popish Church which was in the Land so the Presbyters have eaten up all the livings and livelihoods of Prelates The Independant Ministry are now the third that feed on the flesh of Presbyters whose Preferment Places Priviledges and Parsonages is now become food for Independant Churches Yet the Famin is soarer for not only mothers eat the flesh of their tender babes but the Fathers eat their children and the children their parents Ezek. That the fathers eat the children is plain in the Churches for whereas the Apostle saith that the fathers ought to provide for their children as he himself would rather work and labour night and day with his hands then that the Gospel should be chargeable to the Saints especially the weak now not only the weak but the world must be at charge to provide for the Fathers of the Church for our Preachers of the Gospel But how the children can eat the flesh of their fathers is very strange seeing the flesh of elder men is wrinkled with age and watry humours and worse for food then the flesh of children But so it is though not in the Church yet in the Kingdom there are men counted children who eat up the flesh of fathers Divines Doctors Pastors Teachers and the flesh of Elders all their forms of Doctrine and worship with their professed holy walking is but food for babes and young beginners in the Lord to feed upon but to consume as fire which is fed with the fuel that it devours For indeed there is none whom the Lord feeds with understanding and knowledg there is scarce a knowing Christian this day that grows in knowledg though he be small simple yet he sees the vanity of Churches the emptinesse of their Ordinances then in the fall of their Officers their famin appears For as the Lord before takes away the whole staff of bread and stay of water so they eat their bread by weight and their water by measure This is much that water which is so common should be drank by measure and the measure so small but the sixh part of a hin a hin being no more then a pint Yea the Prophet himself the only Minister of the Church must eat his bread baked with mans dung which must needs make the bread unsavory and unclean v. 12 13. and though the Prophet complains of this to the Lord as a hard thing for him to undergoe to eat bread leavened with mans dung yet nothing is granted to him but this that instead of mans dung he might prepare and leaven his bread with the dung of a beast this was but little better All this shews thus much that the reprobate Churches eat their bread and drink their