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excommunicate_v suspend_v or_o deprive_v silence_v fifty_o godly_a painful_a minister_n in_o two_o year_n in_o norwiâ—h_n diocese_n for_o not_o read_v the_o book_n for_o sport_n on_o the_o lordsday_n for_o use_v conceive_v prayer_n before_o and_o after_o sermon_n for_o not_o read_v the_o service_n at_o the_o altar_n and_o such_o like_a expel_v three_o thousand_o person_n with_o their_o family_n into_o other_o land_n by_o such_o deal_n bishop_n pierce_v his_o practice_n in_o the_o like_a kind_n be_v not_o forget_v he_o put_v down_o minister_n and_o preach_v till_o he_o thank_v god_n that_o he_o have_v not_o a_o lecture_n in_o his_o diocese_n he_o suspend_v minister_n for_o preach_v on_o market-daye_n yea_o put_v the_o minister_n to_o penance_n that_o do_v but_o explain_v the_o church_n catechism_n etc._n etc._n see_v mr._n baxter_n on_o these_o thing_n in_o his_o defence_n of_o the_o worcestershire_n agreement_n pag._n 51._o 2_o reason_n reason_n resutat_fw-la libel_n de_fw-fr regim_n 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