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251._o they_o do_v not_o say_v that_o be_v under_o one_o ciuâ—ll_a government_n do_v constitute_v a_o nationall_n church_n for_o if_o so_o say_v he_o its_o form_n and_o unity_n as_o such_o must_v be_v give_v it_o by_o the_o civil_a government_n for_o the_o unity_n thereof_o consist_v still_o in_o the_o agreement_n in_o the_o same_o doctrine_n and_o worship_n and_o not_o in_o the_o model_n of_o civil_a government_n of_o what_o kind_n soever_o 250._o p._n 250._o and_o if_o he_o allow_v as_o he_o do_v a_o association_n of_o the_o delegate_n from_o several_a church_n to_o meet_v for_o matter_n of_o common_a concernment_n by_o the_o same_o reason_n whether_o it_o be_v by_o institution_n or_o prudence_n he_o must_v allow_v those_o subordinate_a assembly_n for_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n teach_v the_o necessity_n of_o appeal_v in_o male-administrations_a for_o end_v of_o trouble_n and_o decision_n of_o difference_n in_o particular_a congregation_n as_o be_v instance_a in_o the_o
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and_o his_o party_n be_v not_o a_o little_a guilty_a as_o will_v appear_v before_o we_o have_v do_v §_o 16_o whether_o schismatic_n be_v church_n member_n or_o no_o be_v a_o question_n of_o no_o great_a concernment_n the_o doctor_n be_v peremptory_a it_o be_v impossible_a a_o man_n shall_v be_v a_o schismatic_a 51._o p._n 51._o unless_o he_o be_v a_o church_n member_n if_o he_o mean_v it_o of_o a_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n it_o be_v grant_v for_o a_o heathen_a can_v be_v a_o schismatic_a but_o if_o he_o mean_v as_o i_o believe_v he_o do_v no_o man_n can_v be_v such_o unless_o he_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n it_o be_v make_v appear_v to_o the_o contrary_a above_o and_o shall_v be_v more_o hereafter_o for_o the_o present_a i_o only_o say_v suppose_v a_o schismatic_a of_o himself_o depart_v from_o the_o church_n or_o be_v eject_v by_o the_o church_n yet_o still_o persist_v to_o maintain_v the_o difference_n by_o he_o raise_v in_o that_o church_n i_o 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for_o as_o i_o believe_v a_o schism_n may_v be_v make_v in_o a_o particular_a church_n by_o one_o that_o be_v no_o member_n thereof_o seducer_n use_v to_o creep_v into_o house_n and_o church_n and_o raise_v difference_n so_o i_o think_v a_o particular_a church_n or_o some_o member_n of_o it_o may_v make_v a_o schism_n in_o &_o from_o the_o catholic_n church_n or_o other_o particular_a church_n which_o shall_v be_v capable_a of_o those_o aggravation_n by_o he_o give_v look_v as_o in_o the_o body_n natural_a there_o may_v be_v suppose_v a_o schism_n among_o the_o finger_n of_o either_o hand_n whereof_o they_o be_v the_o more_o immediate_a member_n which_o yet_o may_v true_o be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o schism_n in_o relation_n to_o the_o whole_a body_n which_o have_v influence_n into_o and_o interest_n in_o those_o member_n and_o shall_v suffer_v not_o a_o little_a by_o their_o division_n so_o it_o be_v in_o the_o body_n mystical_a though_o the_o division_n immediate_o disturb_v the_o 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of_o this_o in_o hypothesi_fw-la when_o he_o come_v to_o apply_v it_o to_o themselves_o §_o 18_o whether_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v a_o church_n of_o christ_n or_o no_o 56._o pag._n 56._o and_o how_o they_o be_v schismatical_a i_o listen_v not_o to_o be_v their_o advocate_n they_o be_v old_a enough_o to_o answer_v his_o charge_n themselves_o i_o think_v he_o have_v say_v enough_o if_o not_o too_o much_o to_o vindicate_v the_o protestant_a church_n from_o schism_n in_o their_o separation_n from_o rome_n but_o his_o principle_n will_v carry_v he_o further_o not_o only_o to_o unchurch_n rome_n but_o also_o all_o protestant_a church_n at_o home_o and_o abroad_o for_o want_v as_o he_o think_v of_o a_o right_a constitution_n by_o jesus_n christ_n as_o well_o as_o to_o free_v himself_o and_o he_o from_o the_o crime_n of_o schism_n as_o will_v present_o appear_v only_o i_o observe_v that_o he_o do_v not_o charge_n rome_n itself_o to_o be_v schismatical_a but_o upon_o supposition_n that_o it_o be_v a_o church_n which_o he_o deny_v below_o then_o indeed_o by_o her_o intestine_a division_n she_o be_v the_o most_o schismatical_a church_n in_o the_o world_n but_o if_o no_o church_n not_o schismatical_a whereas_o our_o divine_n have_v prove_v her_o schismatical_a not_o only_o by_o her_o intestine_a difference_n but_o chief_o by_o her_o schismatical_a principle_n as_o those_o above_o mention_v that_o she_o be_v the_o catholic_n church_n and_o none_o out_o of_o her_o communion_n be_v any_o better_a than_o heretic_n they_o our_o conventicle_n be_v no_o church_n but_o sty_n of_o beast_n p._n 63._o say_v they_o or_o heathen_n that_o ordination_n be_v void_a except_o do_v by_o her_o bishop_n and_o also_o and_o especial_o by_o her_o abominable_a corruption_n doctrine_n and_o worship_n depart_v therein_o from_o the_o scripture_n and_o example_n of_o the_o apostolical_a church_n now_o his_o chief_n if_o not_o only_a principle_n to_o conclude_v himself_o not_o schismatical_a in_o separate_v from_o rome_n be_v this_o that_o there_o be_v never_o any_o such_o thing_n 60._o pag._n 60._o as_o that_o which_o be_v call_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n institute_v in_o reference_n to_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n by_o jesus_n christ_n which_o he_o hereafter_o affirm_v also_o of_o national_a and_o presbyterian_a church_n as_o he_o thereby_o free_v himself_o from_o schism_n in_o separate_v from_o all_o church_n in_o the_o world_n so_o he_o therewith_o unchurch_v all_o our_o church_n as_o well_o as_o rome_n §_o 19_o for_o so_o he_o say_v upon_o the_o same_o principle_n a_o plea_n 64._o pag._n 64._o for_o freedom_n from_o the_o charge_n of_o any_o church_n real_o or_o pretend_v as_o national_a may_v be_v found_v and_o confirm_v that_o principle_n be_v the_o definition_n of_o schism_n before_o give_v schism_n be_v a_o evil_n among_o the_o member_n of_o a_o church_n and_o hence_o he_o infer_v against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n if_o our_o own_o congregation_n be_v not_o 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in_o achaia_n f_o see_v he_o p._n 37._o f_o some_o scatter_a saint_n there_o may_v be_v but_o few_o church_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v charge_v only_o for_o their_o division_n and_o separation_n in_o or_o from_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n according_a to_o the_o several_a minister_n which_o they_o set_v up_o as_o be_v most_o probable_a as_o in_o the_o like_a case_n 32._o p._n 32._o by_o he_o instance_a in_o the_o time_n of_o clement_a some_o few_o unquiet_a person_n at_o corinth_n draw_v the_o whole_a society_n into_o division_n and_o a_o opposition_n to_o their_o elder_n a_o few_o man_n act_v by_o pride_n and_o madness_n yet_o such_o power_n have_v those_o person_n in_o the_o congregation_n that_o they_o prevail_v to_o depose_v the_o elder_n and_o cast_v they_o out_o of_o office_n be_v it_o not_o reasonable_a to_o think_v they_o set_v up_o new_a elder_n and_o new_a congregation_n and_o most_o unreasonable_a to_o think_v that_o the_o whole_a church_n run_v into_o this_o madness_n 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same_o church_n be_v not_o division_n in_o the_o church_n meet_v together_o to_o worship_n god_n but_o out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o cause_v separation_n from_o the_o elder_n and_o so_o from_o the_o church_n break_v of_o it_o into_o fraction_n which_o yet_o he_o call_v their_o schism_n as_o for_o his_o notion_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o clement_n to_o signify_v then_o 34._o p._n 34._o not_o a_o province_n as_o some_o but_o a_o city_n church_n consist_v of_o many_o congregation_n the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &c_n &c_n i_o be_o apt_a to_o believe_v his_o conjecture_n to_o be_v true_a the_o church_n inhabit_v rome_n or_o the_o church_n at_o rome_n which_o at_o that_o time_n have_v no_o such_o large_a territory_n as_o a_o church_n provincial_a