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A28901 A light from Christ leading unto Christ by the star of his word, or, The rich jewel of Christian divinity practically explained in the principles enlightening the children of God how to meet Christ in his ordinances and by strength from Christ to walk comfortably with Christ in the whole course of their lives ... by way of catechism or dialogue, not to answer verbatim or by wrote ... but each one according to his own sence and understanding of the question / by Immanuel Bourn of Ashover in the county of Derby, now preacher of the Gospel to the congregation in Sepulchres C.L. Bourne, Immanuel, 1590-1672. 1646 (1646) Wing B3855; ESTC R35779 307,398 743

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any_o think_v you_o that_o love_v the_o lord_n jesus_n that_o will_v not_o love_v and_o honour_v his_o faithful_a minister_n and_o willing_o give_v they_o all_o respect_n due_a to_o they_o by_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n ans_fw-fr certain_o all_o man_n have_v not_o faith_n and_o some_o be_v unreasonable_a and_o wicked_a man_n 3.2_o 2_o thess_n 3.2_o who_o love_v not_o christ_n nor_o his_o minister_n i_o have_v hear_v divers_a minister_n complain_v 17._o gens_n 47.22.26_o 2_o chron._n 36.16_o 17._o that_o in_o some_o part_n they_o have_v be_v use_v far_o worse_o than_o the_o egyptian_n use_v their_o priest_n they_o find_v no_o favour_n but_o have_v be_v subject_a to_o divers_a abuse_n which_o be_v a_o fearful_a sin_n that_o once_o bring_v a_o foreign_a enemy_n upon_o god_n own_o people_n but_o now_o we_o hope_v better_a thing_n that_o as_o the_o lord_n have_v honour_v those_o who_o be_v in_o high_a place_n so_o he_o will_v honour_v they_o with_o one_o grace_n more_o to_o take_v care_n that_o there_o may_v be_v faithful_a and_o honourable_a minister_n place_v in_o every_o congregation_n in_o the_o kingdom_n 5.71_o 1_o tim._n 5.71_o and_o that_o they_o may_v have_v a_o honourable_a maintenance_n due_o pay_v they_o according_a to_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n 9.14_o 1_o cor._n 9.14_o quest_n 36._o i_o have_v receive_v good_a satisfaction_n for_o the_o duty_n of_o minister_n pastor_n and_o teacher_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o people_n duty_n unto_o they_o both_o in_o respect_n of_o reverence_n and_o maintenance_n but_o what_o be_v your_o judgement_n i_o pray_v you_o have_v christ_n appoint_v no_o government_n in_o his_o church_n and_o so_o no_o governor_n who_o as_o father_n be_v to_o be_v honour_v and_o who_o be_v to_o be_v as_o ruler_n in_o the_o church_n for_o right_a order_n of_o christ_n discipline_n for_o god_n glory_n and_o the_o good_a of_o his_o church_n what_o light_n from_o christ_n to_o direct_v in_o this_o ans_fw-fr yes_o 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ensample_n to_o the_o flock_n as_o st._n seter_n hold_v forth_o the_o light_n of_o christ_n unto_o the_o church_n quest_n 38._o be_v there_o no_o other_o elder_n or_o rule_v officer_n in_o the_o church_n but_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n and_o such_o as_o labour_v public_o in_o preach_v and_o so_o in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n ans_fw-fr divers_a learned_a man_n do_v affirm_v from_o that_o place_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o timothy_n england_n aretius_n pisc●tor_fw-la beza_n in_o 1_o tim._n 5.17_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1_o cor._n 12.28_o heb._n 13.17_o 24._o the_o church_n of_o g●neva_n the_o chu_n ch_z of_o scotland_n and_o holland_n fr●nce_n n●w_v england_n and_o n●w_o england_n the_o elder_n that_o rule_v well_o be_v worthy_a of_o double_a honour_n especial_o those_o that_o labour_n in_o word_n and_o
he_o have_v once_o a_o year_n with_o his_o neighbour_n at_o easter_n receive_v the_o sacrament_n for_o many_o year_n together_o example_n 2_o the_o like_a ignorance_n i_o find_v in_o a_o manner_n in_o one_o w._n d._n a_o ancient_a man_n also_o and_o one_o that_o have_v think_v himself_o worldly_a wise_a i_o ask_v he_o who_o die_v for_o he_o and_o that_o in_o a_o love_a familiar_a way_n as_o willing_a to_o instruct_v he_o he_o answer_v i_o the_o son_n of_o god_n die_v for_o he_o i_o be_v glad_a to_o hear_v his_o answer_n but_o demand_v of_o he_o again_o if_o he_o do_v know_v what_o this_o son_n of_o god_n be_v that_o die_v for_o he_o he_o point_v his_o hand_n towards_o the_o sun_n then_o shine_v in_o the_o firmament_n it_o be_v about_o two_o a_o clock_n in_o the_o afternoon_n and_o say_v look_v yonder_o in_o the_o son_n of_o god_n that_o die_v for_o i_o bless_a might_n he_o be_v it_o grieve_v i_o then_o to_o see_v his_o lamentable_a ignorance_n which_o by_o that_o answer_n and_o 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desire_v they_o be_v baptise_a first_o thus_o be_v the_o eunuch_n 8.37_o act_n 8.37_o act_v 8._o second_o thus_o be_v cornelius_n and_o his_o company_n after_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v give_v a_o public_a evidence_n of_o their_o conversion_n and_o true_a faith_n in_o christ_n admit_v to_o baptism_n etc._n act_n 10.44_o 45._o 46_o etc._n etc._n act_v 8.18_o 19_o 20._o 21_o etc._n etc._n 1_o tim._n 1.19_o 20._o 3_o joh._n 9.10_o 1_o cor._n 5._o phil._n 3.17_o 18_o 19_o heb._n 6.4_o 4_o 6_o etc._n etc._n heb._n 10.24_o 25_o 26_o etc._n etc._n three_o some_o be_v convert_v only_o to_o a_o outward_a profession_n of_o the_o faith_n among_o who_o be_v many_o hypocrite_n baptise_a at_o the_o first_o and_o these_o it_o may_v be_v be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n until_o they_o be_v discern_v but_o so_o soon_o as_o they_o be_v discern_v and_o know_v notice_n be_v take_v of_o they_o as_o such_o who_o be_v fit_a to_o be_v cast_v out_o and_o their_o communion_n avoid_v for_o their_o 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