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A83496 Speeches and passages of this great and happy Parliament: from the third of November, 1640, to this instant June, 1641. Collected into one volume, and according to the most perfect originalls, exactly published. England and Wales. Parliament.; Mervyn, Audley, Sir, d. 1675.; Pym, John, 1584-1643.; Strafford, Thomas Wentworth, Earl of, 1593-1641. 1641 (1641) Wing E2309; Thomason E159_1; ESTC R212697 305,420 563

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but of late and were first called so 16 Rich. 2. c. 1. in our Statutes By his spiritualties I mean those wherein he is more then a Presbyter and therein I consider his authority over Presbyters by the Oath of Canonicall Obedience by which he may command them to collect tenths granted in Convocation c. 20 Hen. 6.13 p. 25. Secondly his Office which is partly Judiciall and partly ministeriall Judiciall by which he is Judge in his Courts of all matters Ecclesiasticall and spirituall within his Diocesse Cok. Rep. 8. Trollops C. Secondly he is Judge of the fitnesse of such as are presented unto him to be instituted into Benefices Cok. rep 5. Specots cap. Ministeriall and thereby he is to Sacred places Dedicate to Divine Service 9. H. 6.17 pag. 8. Secondly he is to provide for the officiating of Cures in the avoydance of Churches on neglect of the Patrons presenting thereunto Thirdly he is to certifie loyall Matrimony generall bastardy and excommunication Fourthly to execute Judgements given in quare impedit upon the writ Ad admittendum Clericum and other c. Fiftly to attend upon tryals of life to report the sufficiency or insufficiency of such as demand Clergy Sixtly to ordaine Deacons and Presbyters All these I conceive to be Jure humano given to these Bishops and may upon cause be taken away from them Ob. Bishops have been in the Primitive Church and are Apostolicall and from the beginning Sol. To this I answer first that in the pure primitive times of the Church the History whereof is recorded in the Acts and Epistles of the Apostles in which the first and best patterns of Church government is expressed there is no mention of other Bishops then the Presbyters as appeares First the holy Scriptures declare the duties and office of Presbyters and Bishops to be one the same The Bishop is to teach and rule his Church or Congregation 1 Tim. 3.2.5 and the Presbyter is to teach and feed his flock and to oversee care for and rule them 1 Pet. 5.2.3 Secondly the Presbyters are in holy Scriptures said to be the Bishops of the holy Ghost Acts 20.28 Paul charges the Presbyters of Ephesus to take heed to the flock whereof the Holy Ghost had made them Bishops And other Bishops the Holy Ghost never made Thirdly Ephesians 4.11 God is said to have given to his Church for the perfecting of the Saints for the work of the Ministery and for the edifying of the body of Christ Apostles Prophets Evangelists Pastors and Teachers here is an expres enumeration of the officers God hath given whereof the first three are extraordinary and ceased and the last only remains and is to remain untill we all come to perfection as it is ver 13. and this perpetuall Officer is called Pastor in relation to his flock whom he is to govern in Spiritualibus and Teacher in respect of his duty to feed them with the word of truth and is the very same with the Presbyter as appeares above Argumentum à divisione est fortissimum The Bishop as he is any more then a Presbyter is none of these no Officer given by God and therefore ought not to be in the Church Christ the King of his Church was faithfull in his House not only as a servant as Moses was but as the Son in an excellency and eminency Heb. 3.5 and to his kingly Office it pertains to appoint the Officers he will use for the government of his Church in spiritualibus and it agrees not with his faithfulnesse to neglect or omit the appointment of them and leave his House his Church without such Officers He is only wise and therefore best knows what Officers are usefull for his Church and infinitly loving of his Church and therefore hath not left her without any Officer fit for her Ob. Titus in the end of Pauls Epistle unto him is said to be the first Bishop of Crete and Timothy in the end of the Epistles unto him to be the first Bishop of Ephesus Sol. Those additions are spurious and no part of the holy Scriptures Derk upon Gal. 6. infine For Tim. See 1 Cor. 4.17 16.10 Acts 17.13.15 19.22 20.4.5 1 Thes 3.1.6 Heb. 13.25 Colos 1.1 Phil. 1.1 2.19 For Titus See 2 Cor. 7.13 8.6.16.23 and 12.18 Gal 2.1 2 Tim. 4.10 Tim. 1.5 and ● 3.12 and as Beza observes are not in many greek ancient copies to be found and this is so evident as it is granted by most Divines 2. And as they be no part of the Scriptures of God so they be apparently contrary unto them for by them it appears that they namely Titus Timothy were Evangelists extraordinary officers associats and fellow-helpers of the Apostles in their generall and Universall function attendant upon them and sent by them as occasion required from one Church to another never keeping any fixed residence any where and if they had been Bishops of any place Paul would never have suffered much lesse forced them to be non-residents Saint John Revel 12.3 writing to the 7 Churches of Asia directs his speech to the Angel of each Church Ob. 2. and in each of those Churches there were then severall Congregations and Presbyters therefore the Angel was the Bishop over them To this I answer that as Angel is a name common to all Presbyters who are Christs Messengers and Ambassadors So it appears to be used here by the very context cap. 2. v. 10. Where speaking to the Angel of the Church of Smyrna the holy Ghost saith Feare none of the things thou shalt suffer the Devill shall cast some of you into prison but be thou faithfull c. Angel being nomen multitudinis is taken in these chapters collectively for all the Presbyters some of whom the adversaries should imprison and not for any one above or before the rest The same appears in the like manner ver 13.23 Seeing then the Episcopacy may be taken away in all wherein it exceeds the Presbyters office and that the office of the Presbyter is cleerly jure divino I conceive we are first to restore the Presbyter to his due and to him it belongs to teach and feed his flock and to oversee care for and rule them in spiritualibus Act. 20.17 1 Tim. 3.2.5 1. Pet. 5.2.3 So saith the holy Scripture And so saith our Law also He is to minister the Doctrine and the Sacraments and the discipline of Christ as the Lord hath commanded and as this Realme hath received the same according to the commandements of God See the book of Ordering of Priests in the 3. question And he is called in our Law Rector Ecclesiae and the words of his institution be Te●octorem Ecclesiae instituimus curamque regimen animarum parochianorum tibi●in Domino committimus The Bishops have taken by usurpation from the Presbyter divers rights first contrary to his Ordination and institution they will not suffer him to preach in his own Cure
without a license Secondly they restrain him from preaching some doctrines as of predestination and others that overthrow Arminian tenets when his faithfulnesse in his Office requires he should keep nothing back This is read to the Presbyter upon his Ordination and his charge then given him is remarkable See the booke of ordering Priests but to shew them all the counsell of God Acts 10.27 Thirdly they will not suffer him to intermeddle in the discipline These usurpations I conceive are to be taken away and the Presbyter to be left free from them Secondly for the Episcopacy I conceive that first their Baronies and the intermedling of the Clergy in Civill Councels affaires and imployments ought to be taken from them First I conceive such Bar● and intermedling is against the Law of God Christ refused to intermeddle in dividing inheritances though more able and fit for it then any Bishop Luke 12.13 and saith his Kingdome is not of the world John 18.36 and the Disciple is not above his Master Mat. 10.24 and Acts 6. The Apostles refuse to intermeddle in the Deacon or Churchwardens office though of all earthly imployments the neerest to the Church and the reason they give is remarkable for this purpose because they were to attend to Prayer and Administration of the word and therefore not meet for them to attend such secular matters and 2 Tim. 2.4 The Apostles laies down a rule in this case that nemo militans Deo se implicat negotiis hujus seculi and upon this ground even the Popes Canon-laws are against these things as inconsistent with the ministeriall function And the due execution of the commission Goe preach and baptize is of it selfe burthen and work enough for any man whatsoever his gifts and parts be and made Paul though of a more excellent and able spirit cry out under the sense of the waight of it Who is sufficient for these things 2 Cor. 2.16 Secondly it is against the fundamentall Laws of this Land whereby they that are within holy Orders Non est consonum quod ille qui salubri statui animarum piis operibus continue deservit ad insistendum in secularibus neg●tiis compellatur vide the writ that they may the better attend upon and discharge their duties are not to be intangled with temporall businesse and therefore if any such be chosen to any temporall office the Law hath ordained a writ to discharge them thereof Reg. 187.6 The King may command the service of men in orders and then it is to be given him by naturall allegiance This rule admits two exceptions and both are in this case first except the service from that person be against the Law of God as here it is and then it is better obey God then man in praesentia majoris cessat potestas minoris Secondly if the service concern the Common-wealth and the person of whom it is required be not sufficient for it nor brought up unto it the command is against Law and the service not to be done if the King grant the Office of the Clarke of the Crown to one not brought up to it it is void and the service not to be intermedled withall by him 9 Ed. 4.56 Winters case Secondly that part of the Bishops spirituall office by which he claimeth superiority over Presbyters ought to be taken as I conceive from them as being against the will of God The Apostles questioning among themselves which should be the Superior are sharply reproved by our Saviour for it and he tels them plainly it shall not be so among them Mark 10.42 Luke 22.25 and Diotrophes 3 Job 9. is branded for it that he sought prehominence in the Church The mystery of iniquity in the Popish Hierarchy in the Presbyters exalting themselves began to work in the purest primitive times as we see in Diotrophes and Peters cavear 1 Pet. 5.3 and never left till it came to the Pope 2 Thes 2.4.7 the highest degree and top thereof By which it seems to me evident that to leave the pattern of Church government set down in the word of God to follow the examples of after ages upon a false cry of primitive times is to forsake the pure fountain and wallow in the muddy and corrupted streams of antichristian ambition Thirdly that part of the spirituall office of the Bishop whereby he is to instruct the people committed to his charge with the holy Scriptures as upon the 2 question put unto him at his Consecration he undertakes to doe ought as I conceive to be reduced to a possibility for him to performe it It is impossible for him to doe it to a whole Diocesse therefore he should be limited to some particular Congregation unto which he might perform this trust which requires sufficiency attendance and diligence Fourthly Ordination in the scriptures is ever expressed to be by them in the Church that had authority and were officers in the Church as Apostles Evangelists and after by the Presbytery 1 Tim. 4.14 2 Tim. 1.6 And a shadow of this remains in our Law Acts 14.23 Titus 1.5 6 7. for the Bishop only is not to lay hands upon the party to be ordained but the Presbyters there attending are to joyn with the Bishop therein Books of orde ring Priests This I conceive is not fit to be in the hands of any one ordinary officer in the Church the discerning of the gifts abilities and faithfulnesse of persons to be ordained Presbyters requiring great judgement care and circumspection Plus vident oculi quam oculus The like I say of deprivation Fiftly Excommunication by the Scriptures ought to be only in case of enormous offences and obstinacy in them and onely in the Congregation whereof the party to be Excommunicate is a member 1 Cor. 5.4 Tell the Church cannot be meant of one man Mat. 18.17 Diotrophes is branded for taking upon him alone to cast any out of the Church This also abused as well as usurped by the Bishop is to be reformed Sixtly Institution and induction are usurped by the Bishops upon the fundamentall Laws of this Kingdome by which the Patron after his Clerk was ordained did without any more invest him into the Church See Selden of tithes 86. And a relick of this we retain still in Churches that be donatives Seventhly The jurisdiction of tithes causes matrimoniall and causes testamentary in the times of the increasing power of the Pope when the Bishops thereby grew more formidable were taken from the Civill Magistrate to whom originally they belonged upon pretence that the tithes were Jure divino the Churches patrimony and Mariage a Sacrament and that the disposing the goods of the dead most properly belonged to him for the good of the soule in Purgatory to redeem it thence to whom the cure of the Soule appertained in his life time vide 2 R. 3. Testaments 4.11 H. 7.12 B. Plowden 279. B. Foxes c. Cok. rep 9.37 B. Heustoes case Dames rep 97. B.
of Christ and his Apostles cannot but beare witnesse against their wordly pomp and dignities and so the fire of contention breaketh forth And truely Sir the state of the Clergy is very like to fire which whilst it keeps in the Chimney it is of excellent use to warme those that approach unto it but if it once breake out into the house and get upon the house top it sets all on fire so whilst the Clergy keepe themselves within the pulpit they are of great use to stirre up the zeale and devotion of Christians but if they once flye out into the house if they begin to meddle with Civill places and jurisdictions and especially if they once get up to the Counsell-table it is seldome seene but that at length they set all on fire and what is it that maketh the fire to breake out of the chimney but too much fuell if there be but a moderate proportion of fuell the fire keepes it selfe within its bounds but if you heape faggot upon faggot a whole Cart load together then it breaketh out So Sir if there bee a competent maintenance for the Ministery they will keep themselves within their bounds but if Living be heaped upon Living and Temporalities added to Spiritualities the flame will soone breake out and set the house on fire Sir I doe not envy the wealth or greatnesse of the Clergy but I am very confident if those were lesse they would be better and doe more service to Christ and his Church and I am very clear in mine owne heart that the livings of the Clergy being more equally distributed the service of God would be so farre from receiving any prejudice that it would bee much advanced and withall a good proportion of revenue might returne againe to the Crowne from whence it was first derived Sir Bishopricks Deanries and Chapiters are like to great wasters in a Wood they make no proofe themselves they cumber the ground whereon they stand and with their great Armes and Boughes streiched forth on every side partly by their shade and partly by their sowre droppings they hinder all the young wood under them from growing and thriving To speake plaine English these Bishops Deanes and Chapiters doe little good themselves by preaching or otherwise and if they were felled a great deale of good timber might be cut out of them for the uses of the Church and Kingdome at this time A fresh stoole of three or foure able Ministers might spring up in their stead to very good purpose in these great Townes which are Ordinarily the Seats of those Episcopall and Collegiate Churches and the private Congregations of divers Parochiall Churches might thrive and grow better which now have the Sunne of Gods Word I meane the cleare and spirituall preaching thereof kept from them and live in the dangerous shade of ignorance by reason that all the meanes is taken from them and appropriated unto Bishops or to Deanries and Chaptiers and other such Collegiate Churches Besides such as doe begin to grow and start up through the voluntary pains of some amongst them or by such preaching as they themselves have procured by their voluntary contributions should not still bee dropped on as they are from the armes and appendances of those great wasters and kept downe continually by their bitter persecutions That which remaines now is to shew how these great Revenues and Dignities become the seedes of superstition and that is this The Clergy in the maintenance of their greatnesse which they are neither willing to forgoe nor yet well able to maintaine upon the principles of the Reformed Religion finding that the popish principles whereon the Bishop of Rome built his greatnesse to suit well unto their ends that maketh them to side with that party and that must needs bring in superstition and as ambition allureth on the one side so the principles they goe by draw them on farther and farther and happily at length farther than they themselves at first intended Whether a reconciliation with Rome were imagined or no by some I leave it to every one to judge within himselfe But sure I am if an accommodation could have beene made in some fashion or other with the Church of Rome the Clergy might againe be capable of forraigne preferments and Cardinals Caps and this is no small temptation Now Sir I am at an end onely I shall draw out three conclusions which I conceive may clearely be collected out of what I have said First that civill jurisdiction in the persons of Clergy-men together with their great Revenues and high places of dignity is one great cause of the evills which we suffer in matter of Religion Secondly that the sole and arbitrary power of Bishops in the ordaining and detriving of Ministers and in Excommunication and absolution is another great cause of the evills we suffer in matter of Religion Thirdly the strict urging of Subscription and Conformity to the Ceremonies and Canons of the Church is another great cause of evill which wee suffer in matter of Religion And now my humble motion is that we should take a piece onely of this subject into our consideration but the whole matter and that not onely that part of the Ministers Remonstrance which hath beene read should be referred to the Committee which you are about to name but Londons Petition also and all other Petitions of the like nature so soone as they shall bee read in the house and that the Committee may collect out of them all such heads as are fit for the consideration of this house and surely that is fit to bee considered that happily will not be thought fit to be altered consideration is one thing and alteration another where there is a mixture of bad and good together the whole must bee considered that we may know how to sever the good from the bad and so retaine the one and reject the other which is all that I desire And if any thing have fallen from me more inconsiderate as in so long a discourse many things may have done I humbly crave the pardon of the house protesting that I have spoken nothing but with a minde which is ready to sacrifice the body it dwelleth in to the peace and safety of his Majesties Kingdomes and the safety and honour of his Majesty in the Government of them A Speech made before the Lords in the Upper House by Mr. Francis Rous Esquire March the 16th 1640. Against Dr. Cossens Dr. Maynwaring and Dr. Beale My LORDS I AM commanded by the House of Commons to present to your Lordships a Declaration and Impeachment against Dr. Cossens and others upon the complaint of Mr. Peter Smart which Mr. Smart was a Proto-Martyr or first Confessor of note in the late dayes of persecution The whole matter is a Tree whereof the branches and fruit are manifest in the Articles of this declaration which being read I shall with your Lordships favour discover and lay open the root The Declaration was
but shew you a way of remedie by shewing you my cleer intentions and some marke that may hinder this good worke I shall willingly and cheerfully concur with you for the Reformation of all Innovations both in Church and Common-wealth and consequently that all Courts of Justice may be reformed according to Law For my intentions is cleerly to reduce all things to the best and purest times as they were in the time of Queen Elizabeth Moreover whatsoever part of my Revenue shall be found illegall or heavy to my Subjects I shall be willing to lay down trusting in their affections Having thus cleerly and shortly set down my intentions I will shew you some rubs and must needs take notice of some very strange I know not what terme to give them Petitions given in the name of divers Counties against the established government of the Church and of the great threatnings against the Bishops that they will make them to be but a Cipher or at least taken away If some of them have incroached too much upon the Temporaltie if it be so I shall not be unwilling these things should be redressed and reformed as all other abuses according to the wisdome of former times so farre I shall go with you no farther If upon serious debate you shall shew that Bishops have some Temporall Authority not so necessary for the government of the Church and upholding Episcopall Jurisdiction I shall not be unwilling to desire them to lay it down but this must not be understood that I shall any way consent that their voice in Parliament should be taken away for in all the times of my Predecessors since the Conquest and before they have enjoyed it I am bound to maintain them in i as one of the fundamentall Institutions of this Kingdome There is one other Rock you are on not in substance but in service and the forme is so essentiall that unlesse it be reformed will split you on that Rock There is a Bill lately put in concerning Parliaments The thing I like well to have frequent Parliaments but for Sheriffes and Constables to use my Authoritie I can no wayes consent unto But to shew that I desire to give you content in substance as well as in shew that you shall have a Bill for doing thereof so that it do not trench neither against my Honor neither against the ancient Prerogatives of the Crowns concerning Parliaments Ingeniously confesse often Parliaments is the fittest means to keep correspondencie betweene Me and my People that I doe so much desire To conclude now all that I have shewen you the state of my Affairs My own cleere intentions and the Rocks I would have you shun To give you all contentment you shall likewise finde by these Ministers I have or shall have about me for the effecting of these my good intentions which shall redouble the peace of the Kingdome and content you all Concerning the conference you shall have a direct answer on Monday which shall give you satisfaction The Kings speech to both Houses of Parliament in the Lords House at the passing of the Bill for a Trieniall Parliament the 16th of November 1640. MY Lords and you the Knights Citizens and Burgesses of the House of Commons you may remember when both Houses were with Me at the Banquetting House at Whitehall I did declare unto you two Rocks I wished you to eschew this is the one of them and of that consequence that I thinke never Bill passed here in this House of more favour to the Subjects then this is and if the other Rocke be as happily passed over as this shall be at this time I do not know what you can aske for ought I can see at this time that I can make any question to yeeld unto Therefore I mention this to shew unto you the sence that I have of this Bill and obligation as I may say that you have to me for it for hitherto to speake freely I have had no great incouragement to doe it if I should looke to the outward face of your actions or proceedings and not looke to the inward intentions of your hearts I might make question of doing it Hitherto you have gone on in that which concernes your selves to amend and yet those things that meerly concernes the strength of this Kingdom neither for the State nor my own particular This I mention not to reproach you but to shew you the state of things as they are you have taken the Government almost in peeces and I may say it is almost off the hinges A skilfull Watchmaker to make cleane his Watch he will take it a sunder and when it is put together it will go the better so that he leave not forth then one pin in it Now as I have done all this on my part you know what to do on your parts and I hope you shall see cleerly that I have performed really what I expressed to you at the beginning of this Parliament of the great trust I have of your affections to me and this is the great expression of trust that before you do any thing for me that I do put such a confidence in you HIS MAJESTIES Letter to the Lords on the behalf of the Earle of Strafford sent by the PRINCE My Lords I Did yesterday satisfie the Justice of the Kingdome by passing of the Bill of Attainder against the Earle of Strafford but mercie being as inherent and inseparable to a King as Justice I desire at this time in some measure to shew that likewise by suffering that unfortunate man to fulfill the naturall course of his life in a close imprisonment yet so that if ever he make the least offer to escape or offer directly or indirectly to meddle in any sort of Publique businesse especially with me either by Message or Letter it shall cost him his life without further Processe This if it may be done without the discontentment of my People will be an unspeakable contentment to me To which end as in the first place I by this Letter do earnestly desire your approbation and to endeare it the more have chosen him to carry it that of all your House is most dear to me So I desire that by a conference you will endeavour to give the House of Commons contentment Likewise assuring you that the excuse of mercy is no more pleasing to me then to see both Houses of Parliament consent for my sake that I should moderate the severity of the Law in so important a case I will not say that your complying with me in this my intended mercie shall make me more willing but certainly t' will make me more cheerfull in granting your just grievances But if no lesse than his life can satisfie my People I must say fiat justitia Thus again recommending the consideration of my intentions to you I rest Whitehall the 11th of May 1641. Your unalterable and affetionate Friend CHARLES R. If he must dye it were charity to
Reprieve him till Satterday May 11th 1641. THis Letter all written with the Kings own hand the Peers this day received in Parliament delivered by the hand of the Prince It was twice read in the House and after serious and sad consideration the House resolved presently to send 12. of the Peers Messengers to the King humbly to signifie that neither of the two intentions expressed in the Letter could with duty in them or without danger to himselfe his dearest Consort the Queene and all the young Princes their Children possibly be advised With all which being done accordingly the reasons shewed to his Maiesty He suffered no more words to come from them but out of the fulnesse of his heart to the observance of Justice and for the contentment of his people told them that what he intended by his Letter was with an if if it may be done without discontentment of his People if that cannot be I say againe the same that I writ fiat justitia My other intention proceeding out of charity for a few dayes respite was upon certain information that his Estate was so distracted that it necessarily required some few dayes for setlement thereof Whereunto the Lords answered their purpose was to be Suitors to his Maiesty for favour to be shewed to his innocent Children and if himselfe had made any provision for them that the same might hold This was well liking to his Maiesty who thereupon departed from the Lords at his Maiesties parting they offered up into his hands the Letter it selfe which he had sent but He was pleased to say my Lords what I have written to you I shall content it be Registred by you in your House In it you see my minde I hope you will use it to my honor This upon returne of the Lords from the King was presently reported to the House by the Lord Privy Seal and ordered that these Lines should go out with the Kings Letter if any copy of the Letter were dispersed THAT BISHOPS ought not to have Votes in PARLIAMENT 1 BEcause it is a very great hinderance to the exercise of their Ministeriall Function 2 Because they doe vow and undertake at their Ordination when they enter into holy Orders that they will give themselves wholly to that Vocation 3. 4 Because Counsells and Canons in severall Ages do forbid them to meddle with secular affairs because 24 Bishops have dependancie on the two Archbishops and because of their Canonicall obedience to them 5 Because they are but for their lives and therefore are not fit to have legislative power over the honors inheritance persons and liberties of others 6 Because of Bishops dependancie and expecting translations to places of great profit 7 That severall Bishops have of late much incroached upon the consciēnces and liberties of the Subjects and they and their Successors will be much incouraged still to incroach and the Subjects will be much discouraged from complaining against such incouragements if 26 of that Order be to be Judges of those complaints the same reason extends to their legislative power in any Bill to passe for the regulation of their power upon any emergent inconveniencie by it 8 Because the whole number of them is interessed to maintaine the jurisdiction of Bishops which hath beene found so grievous to the three Kingdomes that Scotland hath utterly abolished it and multitudes in England and Ireland have petitioned against it 9 Because Bishops being Lords of Parliament it setteth too great a distance betweene them and the rest of their Brethren in the Ministry which occasioneth pride in them discontent in others and disquiet in the Church To their having Votes a long time Answ If inconvenient Time and usage are not to be considered with Law-makers some Abbots voted as anciently in Parliament as Bishops yet are taken away Therefore the Bishops Certificate to plenary of Benefice and loyalty of Marriage the Bill extends not to them For the secular Jurisdictions of the Deane of Westminster the Bishops of Durbam and Ely and the Archbishop of Yorke which they are to execute in their owne persons the former reasons shew the inconveniencies therein For their Temporall Courts and Jurisdictions which are executed by their Temporall Officers the Bill doth not concerne them The Lord Keepers Speech in the Upper House of Parliament Novemb. 3. 1640. My Lords ANd you the Knights Cittizens and Burgesses of the House of Commons you have been summoned by His Majesties Gracious Writ under the great Seal of England and you are here this day assembled for the holding of a Parliament The Writ tels you t is to treat and consult of the High Great and weighty affairs that concern the estate and safety of the Kingdom It tels you true that since the Conquest never was there a time that did more require and pray for the best advice and affection of the English people It is ill viewing of objects by viewing them in multiplying Glasse and it is almost as mischievous in the speech of such a broken Glasse which represents but to the half The onely and the perfect way is to look in a true Mirror I will not take upon me to be a good looker in it I will onely hold it to you to make use of it The Kingdom of England is this multiplying Glasse you may there see a State which hath flourished for divers hundred yeers famous for time of peace and warre glorious at home and ever considerable abroad A Nation to whom never yet any Conqueror gave new Laws nor abolished the old nor would this Nation ever suffer a Conqueror to meddle with their Laws no not the Romanes who yet when as they subdued all the people made it part of the Conquest to leave their Laws in triumph with them For the Saxons Danes and the Normans if this were a time to travell into such particulars it were an easie task to make it appear that it never changed the old established Lawes of England nor ever brought in any new so as you have the frame and constitution of a Common-wealth made glorious by antiquity And it is with States as with persons and families certainly an interrupted pedigree doth give lustre It is glorious in the whole frame wortth your looking upon long and your consideration in every part The King is the head of the Common-wealth the Fountain of Justice the life of the Law He is anima deliciae legis Behold Him in His glorious Ancestors that have so swayed the Scepter of the Kingdome Behold Him in the high attributes and the great prerogatives which so ancient and unalterable Laws have given and invested him with Behold Him in the happy times that we have so long lived under His Monarchiall government For His excellent Majesty that now is our most Gratious Soveraign you had need wipe the Glasse and wipe your eyes and then you shall truely behold him a King of exemplary Pietie and Justice and a King of rare endowments and
and there might bee good reason for it I have heard that there was brought a Petition to some privie Counsellours with a thousand hands to it and being brought onely with sixe men they were answered that they sixe might write those thousand hands if there were a thousand that joyned in the Petition why did they not come too And we heard it objected but the other day in this house against the Ministers Petition that there were indeed seven or eight hundred names to it but two hands onely Therefore it was not without cause that a considerable number should come with a Petition signed by so many but for any disorder in their carriage I saw none for upon an intimation in one word from this house they forthwith retired to their dwellings As for the subject matter of the Petition three exceptions are taken against it First that divers things are contemptible in it as that about Ovid de Amore set forth in English and other such things Secondly that in many things their discourse was altogether irrationall for that they argue from personall faults of Bishops against the office it selfe of Bishops and in other things argue from effects that proceed from it by accident as if they did flie out of it And in the last place that their prayer and conclusion is bold and presumptuous desiring so boldly an abolition of standing Lawes To the first I answer that some things may seeme contemptible in themselves which are not so in their causes nor in their effects as the suffering of such lascivious pamphlets to be printed and published when other profitable writings are suppressed doth discover a principle that loosenesse and prophanesse which will helpe to bring in superstition is more sutable to their hierarchy than the contrary which makes them connive at such things as are apt to produce loosenesse and lewdnesse and this is no contemptible effect nor doth it proceed from a contemptible cause In the next place for that which seemes irrationall in the way of their discovery divers things may seeme to bee personall faults which indeed are derived unto the persons from the office or from the circumstances thereof I meane their revenues and dignities on the one side and the ceremonies on the other side For most of the things complained of as silencing and thrusting out of godly and painfull Preachers bringing in Innovations in Doctrine and worship and the like although they may seeme personall and accidentall faults yet if wee follow them to their last resort wee shall find that their worldly wealth and dignities stirre them up to doe this that their sole and arbitrary power over the Clergy and in matter Ecclesiasticall enable them to effect it and the ceremonies both new and old serve as instruments and meanes whereby they effect it In the last place that their Prayer in the conclusion of their Petition is bold or presumptuous I doe not see there is any reason so to esteeme of it for if they had taken upon them to have altered any thing upon their owne authority or had imperiously required the Parliament to doe it then it might deserve such a stile but when they come as humble suppliants by way of Petition desiring the altering of Lawes that have been found burdensome unto them and that of the Parliament where and wherein onely old lawes may bee repealed and new Lawes may be made they come in the right manner to their right and proper place and therefore have done nothing boldly or presumptuously but orderly and regularly and therefore ought not to receive any check or discouragement in the way that they have taken Now Sir concerning the government of the Church by Arch-Bishops Bishops c. which also hath beene spoken unto whereas it is desired that the evills and inconveniences should be shewed which arise not from the persons but from the office it selfe of Bishops I shall apply my discourse particularly to that poynt But first I shall crave leave to say a word or two in answer to what hath beene alledged for the credit of the Government by Bishops First that it is as ancient as Christian Religion and that it hath continued ever since the time of Christ and his Apostles as for this I doe not pretend to have so much knowledge in antiquity as to confute this out of the Fathers and Ecclesiasticall Histories although there are that undertake that onely one sentence I have often heard cited out of Saint Ierome that in the Primitive times Omnia communi Clericorum Concilio regebantur and truely so farre as the Acts of the Apostles and the New Testament goeth which was the ancientest and most primitive time of Christianity I could never find there any distinction betweene a Bishop and a Presbyter but that they were one and the very same thing In the next place that which is alledged for the credit of Episcopacy is that our Reformers and Martyrs were many of them Bishops and practised many of those things now complai●ed of and that in other Reformed Churches wh●re Bishops are not they are desired For the Martyrs and Reformers of the Church that were Bishops I doe not understand that that was any part of their Reformation nor of their Martyrdome I have read that whereas Ridley and Hooper had some difference betweene them in their life time about these things when they came both to their martyrdome he that had formerly beene the Patron of this Hierarchy and Ceremonies told his brother that therein his foolishnesse had contended with his wisedome As for that which is said that other Reformed Churches where they have not Bishops yet they are desired I will not deny but some among them may desire Bishopricks I meane the Dignities and Revenues of Bishops but that they desire Bishops as thinking it the fittest and best Government of the Church I cannot beleeve for if they would have Bishops why doe they not make themselves Bishops I know not what hindreth why they might not have Bishops when they would In the last place for that which is alledged in relation to the government of this Kingdome that Bishops are so necessary as that the King cannot well let them goe with the safety of Monarchy and that if Bishops bee taken away Assemblies or something must come in the roome thereof And if Kings should bee subject thereunto and should happen to be excommunicated thereby that after they would bee little esteemed or obeyed as Kings for this if it shall be cleared as it is affirmed or if any thing therein doe strike at Monarchy I shall never give my vote nor consent thereunto as long as I live But to cleare that this is not so I offer to your consideration that by the Law of this Land not onely all Ecclesiasticall Jurisdiction but also all superiority and preheminence over the Ecclesiasticall state is annexed to the Imperiall Crowne of this Realme and may bee granted by Commission under the great seale to such persons
made but my Oath once being taken doth binde mee in all places and in all conditions so long as I live Thus much I thought good to speake concerning the power of imposing new Oathes as to the matter of this new Oath it is wholly illegall Jt is against the Law of this Land it is against the Law and light of Nature it is against the Law of God it is against the Lawes of this Kingdome and that no obscure Lawes nor concerning any meane or petty matters It is against the Law of the Kings Supremacy in that it maketh Arch-bishops Bishops Deanes Arch-Deacons c. to bee jure Divino whereas the Law of this Land hath annexed to the Imperiall Crowne of this Realme not onely all Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction but also all superioritie over the Ecclesiasticall State and it is to bee derived from him by C●mmission under the Great Seale and consequently it is Jure humano Again it is against the Oath of Supremacy established by Law poynt blanke for therein I am sworne not onely to consent unto but also to assist and to the uttermost of my power to defend all Iurisdictions Preheminences c. anne●ed to the Imperiall Crowne of this Realme of which this is one and that which immediately precedeth this Oath in the Statute and whereunto it doth especially relate That his Majesty may exercise any Iurisdictions or Ecclesiasticall Government by his Commission under the great Seale directed to such persons as he shall thin 〈◊〉 meet so that if he shall thinke other persons more meet then Arch-bishops Bishops c. I am sworne in the Oath of Supremacy not onely to assent thereunto but to assist and to the uttermost of my power to defend such an appoyntment of his Majesty and in this new Oath I shall swear never to consent unto such an alteration In the like manner it is against the Law and Light of Nature that a man should sweare to answer c. to he knowes not what It is against the Law and light of Nature that a man should sweare never to consent to alter a thing that in its owne nature is alterable and may prove inconvenient and fit to bee altered Lastly it is against the Law of God for whereas there are three rules prescribed to him that will sweare aright that he sweare in Iudgement in Truth and righteousnesse hee that shall take this new Oath must needs breake all these three Rules He cannot sweare in Iudgement because this Oath is so full of ambiguities that he cannot tell what he sweares unto not to speak of the unextricable ambiguity of the c. There is scarce one word that is not ambiguous in the principall parts of the Oath as first What is meant by the Church of England whether all the Christians in England or wherher the Clergie onely or onely the Arch-Bishop Bishops Deanes c. Or whether the Convocation or what In like manner it is as doubtfull what is meant by the Discipline and what by the Dotirine of the Church of England for what some call Superstitions Innovations if others affirme to be consonant to the Primitive and that the purest Reformation in the time of Edward the 6. and in the beginning of the Reigne of Queene Elizabeth and so for the Doctrine of the Church of England if all the Positions that of later yeares have beene challenged by some of Divines to bee Arminian and Popish and contrary to the Articles of our Religion and which on the other side have beene asserted and maintained as consonant to the Doctrine of our Church and if the Articles of Religion were gathered together they might make a pretty volume Nay Sancta Clara will maintaine it in despight of the Puritanes that the Doctrine of the Church of Rome is the Doctrine of the Church of England Truely it were very fit that wee knew what were the Doctrine and Discipline of the Church of England before we sweare to it and then Sir give me leave to say that I should be very loath to sweare to the Discipline or to the Doctrine and Tenents of the purest Church in the World as they are collected by them farther than they agree with the Holy Scriptures Lastly it is as doubtfull what is meant by the Doctrine and Discipline established and what by altering consenting to alter whether that is accompted or established which is estalished by a Act of Parliamēt or wether that also that is established by Canons Injunctions c. and whether it shall not extend to that which is published by our Divines with the allowance of authority so for consenting to alter whether it be only meant that a man shall not bee active in altering or whether it extend to any consent and so that a man shall not submit to it nor accept of it being altered by the State More ambiguities might be shewne but these are enough to make it cleare that hee that shall t●k this Oath cannot sweare in Iudgement Nor can he sweare in Truth for it is full of untruths It is not true that Discipline is necessary to salvation It is not true that Arch-Bishops Bishops Deanes Arch-Deacons c. are jure Divino as they must needs bee if the Law-mamakers ought of right to establish them as they are established for the Law-makers are not bound as of right to frame their Lawes to any other than the Lawes of God alone Now whether Bish●ps be jure Divino we know it is a dispute among the Papists and never did any Protestant hold it till of late yeares but that Arch-bishops Deanes Arch-Deacons c. should be jure Divino I doe not know that ever any Christian held it before and yet he that taketh this Oath must sweare it Lastly as hee that taketh this Oath cannot sweare in Iudgement nor in Truth so neither can hee sweare in Righteousnesse for it is full of unrighteousn●sse being indeed as hath beene well opened a Covenant in effect against the King and Kingdome for if the whole State should finde it necessary to alter the Government by Arch-Bishops Bishop c a great part of the Kingdome especially of the Gentry for not onely the Clergy but all that take Degrees in the Vniversities are bound to take it will be preingaged not to consent to it or admit of it Againe it is a great wrong to those that shall bee Parliament-men that their freedome shall be taken away being bound up by an Oath not to co●sent to the altering of a thing which it may befit and proper for a Parliament to alter And suppose that for the present it bee no hinderance to the service of God nor yet burdensome to the King and Kingdome yet if it should prove so hereafter for a man to bee bound by an Oath never to consent to alter it may bee a great wrong to God in his service and to the King and Kingdome in their peace and welfare and therefore this Oath cannot be taken in
The Lord Digby's Speech to the House of Commons concerning Bishops and the City petition the 9. of February 1640. Mr. Speaker I Know it is a tender subject I am to speake of wherein I beleeve some within these Walls are engaged with earnestnesse in contrary opinions to mine and therefore it will be necessary that in the first place I beseech the patience of this House that they will bee pleased to heare mee without interruption though somewhat I say should chance to be displeasing I hope there will be somewhat from mee ere I conclude that may be of Service to this House Sir if I thought there were no further designe in the desires of some that this London Petition should be committed then meerely to make use of it as an Index of grievance I should winke at the faults of it and not much oppose it There is no man within these wals more sensible of the heavy grievance of Church government then my Selfe nor whose affections are keene to the clipping of those wings of the Prelates whereby they have mounted to such insolencies nor whose zeale is more ardent to the searing them as that they may never spring againe But having reason to beleeve that some aime at a totall extirpation of Bishops which is against my heart and that the committing of this Petition may give countenance to that Designe I cannot restraine my selfe from labouring to divert it or at least to set such notes upon it as may make it ineffectuall to that end Truely Sir when this Petition was first brought into the House I considered it in its nature in the manner of the delivery in the present conjuncture of aff●●es both Ecclesiasticall and Civill to bee a thing of the highest Consequence that any Age hath presented to a Parliament and the same thoughts I have of it still I professe I looked upon it then with terrour as upon a Comet or blazing starre raysed and kindled out of the stench out of the poysonous exhalation of a corrupted Hierarchy Mee thought the Commet had a terrible Tayle with it Sir and poynted to the North the same feares dwell with mee still concerning it and I beseech God they may not prove Propheticall I feare all the Prudence all the Fore-cast all the Vertue of this House how unitedly soever collected how vigorously applyed will have a hard worke of it Yet to hinder this Meteor from causing such Distempers and Combustions by its Influence as it then portended by its appearance what ever the Event bee I shall discharge my Conscience concerning it freely and uprightly as unbyast by popularity as by any Court respects Sir I could never flatter the sense of this House which I Reverence so much as to suppresse a single No that my heart dictated though I knew the venting of it might cast prejudices upon mee had my Fortune plac●d mee neere a King I could not have flattered a King and I doe not intend now to flatter a multitude I shall desire those worthy Aldermen and the rest here of the City of London not to take any thing I shall say in the least way of disparagement or reflection on the City I looke not upon this Petition as a Petition from the City of London but from I know not what 15000. Londoners all that could be got to subscribe When this Petition was first presented there might bee more reason for the Commitment of it as being then the most comprehensive Catalogue wee had of Church grievance but now that the Ministers by their Remonstrance have given us so faire and full an Index of them without those mixtures of things contemptible irrationall and presumptuous wherewith this Petition abounds I do not know I professe to what good end it can be committed being full of contemptible things but first let me recall to your minde the manner of its delivery And I am confident there is no man of judgement that will thinke it fit for a Parliament under a Monarchy to give countenance to irregular and tumultuous assemblies of people be it for never so good an end Besides there is no man of the least insight into Nature or History but knowes the danger when eyther true or pretended stimulation of conscience hath once given a multitude agitation Contemptible things Sir swarme in the 8.13.14.15 16.17 Articles of this Petition Did ever any body thinke that the gaites of Ovid or Tom. Caryes muse should by 15000. have beene presented to a Parliament as a motive for the extirpation of Bishops the scandall of the Rochet the Lawne-sleeves the foure corner Cap the Cope the Surplesse the Tippet the Hood the Canonicall Coat c. may passe with arguments of the sune weight onely thus much let me observe upon it Mr. Speaker that one would sweare the penners of the Article had the pluming of some Bishops already they are so acquainted with every feather of them In a word I know not whether be more preposterous to inferre the extirpation of Bishops from such weake Arguments or to attribute as they doe to Church government all the civill grievance not a Patent not a Monopoly not the price of a commodity moditie raysed but these men make Bishops the cause of it For the irrationall part Mr. Speaker first they Petition us in a Method only allowable with those whose Iudgement or Iustice is suspected that is Iniquum petere ut aequum feras There is no Logick no reasoning in their demands It were want of Logick in mee to expect it from a multitude but I consider the multitude in this is led by implicite faith to that which hath beene digested and contrived but by a few and in them truely I cannot but wonder at the want of Reconciliation here A Petition Mr. Speaker ought in this to bee a kinde of Syllogisme that the Conclusion the Prayer ought to hold proportion with the premisses that is with the Allegations and Complaints and to beeasonably deduc't from them But what have we here a multitude of Allegations a multitude of instances of abuses and depravations of Church Government And what inferred from thence let the use be utterly abolisht for the abuses sake As if they should say that because Drunkennesse and Adultery are growne so epidemicall as is alledged in the Petition Let there be no more use of Wine nor of Women in the Land Christs Discipline hath beene adulterated 't is true the whole Church inebriated by the Prelates therefore infer our Petitioners let not so much as the chaste the sober use of them be suffered Give me leave to continue one of the Comparisons a little further should it be demonstrated unto us that Wine could not be made use of without Drunkennesse and withall some such Liquor presented as healthy and as nourishing from which no distemper could arise I should not blame any man for desiring to pluck up the Vine by the roots But for the moveable ills-sake to take away the solid good of a thing
the learnedst of the Reformed Churches abroad and lastly a government under which till these late yeares this Church hath so flourished so fructified that such a government such a function should at the fagge end of 1640. yeares bee found to have such a close Devill in it as no power can Exercise no Law Restraine appeares Sir to mee a thing very improbable I professe I am deceived Sir if Trienniall Parliaments will not be a Circle able to keep many a worse Devill in order For the second I know not the strength of other mens fancies but I will confesse unto you ingenuously the weaknesse of my faith in the poynt that I doe not beleeve there can any other government bee proposed but will in time bee subject to as great or greater inconveniences than Episcopacy I meane Episcopacy so ordered reduced and limitted as I suppose it may bee by firme and solid Boundaries T is true Sir we cannot so well judge before-hand of future inconveniences for the knowledge of the faults and mischiefes of Episcopall government resulting from fresh and bleeding experience And the insight into dangers of any new way that shall be proposed being to rise onely from speculation the apprehension of the one is likely to be much more operative than of the other though perh●ps in just reason it ought to bee the weaker with us it is hard in such cases for us to preserve an equall and unpropense judgement since being in things of this world so much too hard for faith and contemplation yet as Divine as our inspection is into things not experimented if wee hearken to those that would quite extirpate Episcopacy I am confident that in stead of every Bishops wee put downe in a Diocesse wee shall set up a Pope in every Pari●h Lastly Mr. Speaker whether the subversion of Episcopacy and the introducing of another kinde of Government be practiceable I leave it to those to judge who have considered the Connexion and Interweaving of the Church Government with the Common Law to those who heard the Kings Speech to us the other day or who have looked into reason of state For my part though no Statesman I will speake my minde freely in this I doe not thinke a King can put downe Bishops totally with safety to Monarchy not that there is any such allyance as men talk of 'twixt the Myter and the Crowne but from this reason that upon the putting downe of Bishops the Government of Assemblies is likely to succeed it That to bee effectuall must draw to it selfe the supremacy of Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction that consequently the power of Excommunicating Kings as well as any other brother in Christ and if a King chance to be delivered over to Sathan judge whether men are likely to care much what becomes of him next These things considered M. Speaker let us lay aside all thoughts of such dangerous such fundamentall such unaccomplished Alterations and all thought of countenancing those thoughts in others let us all resolve upon that course wherein with union wee may probably promise our selves successe happinesse and security that is in a through Reformation To that no mans vote shall be given with more zeale with more heartinesse than mine Let us not destroy Bishops but make Bishops such as they were in the Primitive times Doe their large Terriories their large Revenues offend let them be retrencht the good Bishops of Hippo had but a narrow Diocesse Doe their Courts and subordinates offend let them be brought to governe as in the Primitive times by Assemblies of their Clergy Doth their intermedling in secular affaires offend exclude them from the capacity it is no more than what Reason and all Antiquity hath interdicted them That all this may bee the better effected M. Speaker my mottion is that First we may appoynt a Committee to collect all grievances springing from the misgovernment of the Church to which the Ministers head of Government will bee sufficient without countenancing this Petition by a Commitment and to represent it to this house in a Body And in the next place that wee may if it stand with the order of Parliaments desire that there may bee a standing Committee of certain members of both Houses who with a number of such learned Ministers as the Houses shall nominate for Assistants may take into consideration all these grievances and advise of the best way to settle peace and satisfaction in the Government of the Church to the comfort of all good Christians and all good Common-wealths Men. The Accusation and Impeachment of John LORD Finch Baron of Fordwich Lord Keeper of the Great Seale of England by the House of COMMONS IMprimis That the said Iohn Lord Finch Baron of Fordwich Lord Keeper c. hath traiterously and wickedly endeavoured to subvert the fundamentall Lawes and established Government of the Realme of England and in stead thereof to introduce an arbitrary tyrann●call government against Law which hee hath declared by trayterous and wicked words counsells opinions judgements practices and actions II. That in pursuance of those his trayterous and wicked purposes hee did in the third and fourth yeare of his Majesties reigne or one of them being then Speaker of the Commons House of Parliament contrary to the commands of the House then assembled and sitting denyed and hindred the reading of some things which the said House of Commons required to bee read for the safety of the King and Kingdome preservation of the Religion of this Realme and did forbid all the members of the house to speake and said that if any did offer to speake he would rise and goe away and said nothing should bee then done in the house and did offer to rise and goe away and did thereby and otherwise in as much as in him lay endeavour to subvert the ancient and undeubted rights and course of Parliaments III. That he being of his Majesties Councell at the Iustice seate held for the County of Essex in the moneth of October in the tenth yeare of his now Majesties reigne at Strafford Langton in the same County being then of his Majesties Councell in that Service did practise by unlawfull meanes to enlarge the Forrest of that County many Miles beyond the knowne bounds thereof as they had beene enjoyed neere 300 yeares contrary to the Law and to the Charter of the liberties of the Forest and other Charters and divers Acts of Parliament and for effecting the same did unlawfully cause and procure undue returnes to be made of Iurors and great numbers of other persons who were unsworne to be joyned to them of the Iury and threatned and awed the sayd Iurors to give a Verdict for the King and by unlawfull means did surprise the County that they might not make Defence and did use severall menacing wicked Speeches and Actions to the Iury and others for obtayning his unjust purpose aforesaid and after a Verdict obtained for the King in the Moneth of April following at
their office then is to governe But in my opinion they governe worse than they Preach though they preach not at all for wee see to what passe their government hath brought us In conformity to themselves They silence others also though Hierom in one of his Epistles saith that even a Bishop let him be of never so blamelesse a life yet he doth more hurt by by his licence then he can doe good by his example Mr. Speaker It now behooves us to restraine the Bishops to the duties of their Function as they may never more hanker after heterogeneous extravagant employments Not be so absolute so single and solitary in actions of Moment as Excommunication Absolution Ordination and the like but to joyne some of the Ministry with them and further to regulate them according to the usage of Ancient Churches in the best times that by a well-temper'd Government they may not have power hereafter to corrupt the Church to undoe the Kingdome When they are thus circumscribed and the publique secur'd from their Eruptions then shall not I grudge them a liberall plentifull subsistence else I am sure they can nev●● be given to Hospitality Although the calling of the Clergie be all glorious within yet if they have not a large considerable outward support they cannot be freed from vulgar Contempt It will alwaies be fit that the flourishing of the Church should hold proportion with the flourishing of the Common-wealth wherein it is If we dwell in houses of Ceaar why should they dwell in skins And I hope I shall never see a good Bishop left worse than a Parson without a Gleab Certainly Sir this superintendencie of eminent men Bishops over divers Churches is the most Primitive the most spreading the most lasting Government of the Church Wherefore whilest we are earnest to take away Innovations let us beware wee bring not in the greatest Innovation that ever was in England I doe very well know what very many doe very servently desire But let us well bethinke our selves whether a popular Democraticall Government of the Church though fit for other places will be either sutable or acceptable to a Regall Monarchicall Government of the State Every man can say It is so common and knowne a Truth that suddaine and great changes both in naturall and Politick bodies have dangerous opperations and give mee leave to say that we cannot presently see to the end of such a consequence especially in so great a Kingdome as this and where Episcopacie is so wrap'd and involv'd in the Lawes of it Wherefore Mr. Speaker my humble Motion is that we may punish the present offenders reduce and preserve the Calling for better men hereafter Let us remember with fresh thankfulnesse to God those glorious Martyr-Bishops who were burn'd for our Religion in the times of Popery who by their learning zeale and constancy upheld and convey'd it downe to us We have some good Bishops still who doe Preach every Lords Day and are therefore worthy of double honour they have suffered enough already in the Disease I shall bee sorry we should make them suffer more in the Remedy 〈…〉 A message delivered from the Commons to the Lords of the Vpper House in Parliament by Mr. Pym Novemb. 11. 1640. My Lords THe Knights Citizens and Burgesses now assembled for the Commons in Parliament have received information of divers traiterous designes and practices of a great Peere of this House and by vertue of a command from them I doe here in the name of the Commons now assembled in Parliament and in the name of all the Commons of England accuse Thomas Earle of Strafford Lo. Lieutenant of Ireland of high Treason and they have commanded me further to desire your Lordships that he may be sequestred from Parliament and forthwith committed to prison They have further commanded mee to let you know that they will within a very few dayes resort to your Lordships with the particular Articles and grounds of this accusation And they doe further desire that your Lordships will thinke upon some convenient and fit way that the passage betwixt England and Ireland for his Majesties subjects of both Kingdomes may be free notwithstanding any restraint to the contrarie The Lord Lieutenant being required to withdraw and after a debate thereof called in kneeled at the Bar and after standing up the L. Keeper spake as followeth My Lord of Strafford THe House of Commons in their owne name and in the name of the whole Commons of England have this day accused your Lordship to the Lords of the Higher House of Parliament of high treason The articles they will within a very few dayes produce In the meane time they have desired of my Lords and may Lords have accordingly resolved that your Lordship shall be committed to safe custody to the Gentleman Vsher and be sequestred from the House till your Lordship shall cleare your selfe of the accusations that shall be laid against you Articles of the Commons assembled in Parliament against Thomas Earle of Strafford in maintenance of his accusation whereby he stands charged of High Treason 1. THat he the said Thomas Earle of Strafford hath traiterously endevoured to subvert the fundamentall Lawes and government of the Realmes of England and Ireland and in stead thereof to introduce on Arbitrary and Tyrannicall Government against Law which hee hath declared by traiterous words counsels and actions and by giving his Majestie advice by force of Armes to compell his loyall Subjects to submit thereunto 2. That hee hath traiterously assumed to himselfe Regall power over the lives liberties persons lands and goods of his Majesties Subject● in England and Ireland and hath exercised the same tyrannically to the subversion and undoing of many both of Peeres and others of his Majesties Liege people 3. That the better to enrich and enable himselfe to goe thorow with his traiterous designes hee hath detained a great part of his Majesties revenue without giving legall account and hath taken great summes out of the Exchequer converting them to his owne use when his Majestie was necessitated for his owne urgent occasions and his Army had beene a long time unpaid 4. That he hath traiterously abused the power and authoritie of his government to the encreasing countenancing and encouraging of Papists that so hee might settle a mutuall dependance and confidence betwixt himselfe and that partie and by their help prosecute and accomplish his malicious and tyrannicall designes 5. That hee hath maliciously endevoured to stir up enmitie and hostilitie between his Majesties subjects of England and those of Scotland 6. That he hath traiterously broken the great trust reposed in him by his Majestie of Lieutenant Generall of his Army by wilfully betraying divers of his Majesties Subjects to death his Army to a dishonourable defeat by the Scots at Newborn and the Towne of New-Castle into their hands to the end that by the effusion of bloud by dishonour and so great a losse of New-Castle his Majesties
seemes to be this particular case yet seeing that I am pressed by both Houses to give way to his because I will avoid the inconveniencie of giving so great discontent to my people as I conceive this Mercy may produce therefore I doe remit this particular Cause to both the Houses But I desire them to take into their consideration the inconveniencies as I conceive may upon this occasion fall upon my Subjects and other Protestants abroad especially since it may seeme to other States to be a severity which surprise having thus represented I think my selfe discharged from all ill consequence that may ensue upon the execution of this person FINIS To the Right Honourable the Commons House of Parliament The humble Petition of many of his Majesties Subjects in and about the Citie of London and severall Counties of the Kingdome THat wheras the government of Archbishops and lord-Lord-Bishops Deanes and Archdeacons c. with their Courts and ministrations in them hath proved prejudiciall and very dangerous both to the Church and Common-wealth they themselves having formerly held that they have their jurisdiction or authority of humane Authority till of these later times being further perused about the unlawfulnesse that they have claymed their calling immediatly from the Lord JESVS CHRIST which is against the Lawes of this Kingdome and Derogatory to his Majestie and his State Royall And whereas the said government is found by wofull experience to be a maine cause and occasion of many foule evils pressures and grievance of a very high nature unto his Majesties Subjects in their owne Consciences liberties and ●st tes as in a Shedule of particulars hereunto annexed may in part appeare We therefore most humbly pray and beseech this Honourable Assembly the premisses considered that the said government with all its depend●nces roots and branches may be abolished and all lawes in their behalfe made voyd and the government according to Gods word may be rightly placed among us and we your humble Supplyants as in duty we are bound will daily pray for his Majesties long and happy raigne over us and for the prosperous successe of this High and Honourable Court of Parliament c. A Particular of the manifold Evils Pressures and Grievances caused practized and occasioned by the Prelates and their Dependants I. FIrst the subjecting and enclining all Ministers under them and their Authority and so by degrees exempting of them from the Temporall power whence followes II. The faint-heartednesse of Ministers to preach the truth of God lest they should displease the Prelates as namely the Doctrine of Predestination of Free-grace of Perseverance of Originall sinne remaining after Baptisme of the Sabbath the Doctrine against universall Grace Election for Faith fore-seene Free-will against Antichrist non-Residents humane Inventions of Gods worship all which are generally with-held from the peoples knowledge because not relishing to the Bishops III. The encouragement of Ministers to despise the temporall Magistracie the Nobles and Gentry of the Land to abuse the Subjects live contentiously with their neighbours knowing that they being the Bishops creatures they shall be supported IV. The restraint of many godly and able men from the Ministry and thrusting out of many Congregations their faithfull diligent and powerfull Ministers who lived peaceably with them and did them good onely because they cannot in Conscience submit unto and maintaine the Bishops needlesse devices nay sometimes for no other cause but for their zeale in Preaching or great Auditories V. The suppressing of that godly Designe set on foot by certaine Sects and sugred with many great gifts by sundry well-affected persons for the buying of Impropriations and placing of able Ministers in them maintaining of Lectures and founding of Free Schooles which the Prelates could not endure lest it should darken their glories and draw the Ministers from their dependance upon them VI. The great encrease of idle lewd and dissolute ignorant and erroneous men in the Ministry which swarme like the Locusts of Egypt over the whole Kingdome and will they but weare a Canonicall Coat a Surplisse a Hood bow at the name of JESVS and be zealous of Superstitious Ceremonies they may live as they list confront whom they please preach and vent what errours they will and neglect preaching at their pleasures without controule VII The discouragement of many from bringing up their Children in learning the many Schismes errors and strange opinions which are in the Church great Corruptions which are in the Universities the grosse and lamentable ignorance almost every where among the people the want of preaching Ministers in very many places both of England Wales the loathing of the Ministry and the generall defection to all manner of prophanenesse VIII The swarming of lascivious idle and unprofitable Books and Pamphlets Play-books and Ballads as namely Ovids fits of Love the Parliament of Women came out at the dissolving of the last Parliament Barnes Poems Parkers Ballads in disgrace of Religion to the encrease of all vice and withdrawing of people from reading studying and hearing the word of God and other good Books IX The hindring of godly Books to be Printed the blotting out or perverting those which they suffer all or most of that which strikes either at Poperie or Arminianisme the adding of what or where pleaseth them and the restraints of reprinting Books formerly lycensed without relycensing X. The publishing and venting of Popish Arminian and other dangerous Books and Tenets as namely that the Church of Rome is a true Church and in the worst times never erred in Fundamentals that the Subjects have no propriety in their Estates but that the King may take from them what hee pleaseth that all is the Kings and that he is bound by no Law and many other from the former whereof hath sprang XI The growth of Popery and encrease of Papists Priests and Jesuits in sundry places but especially about London since the Reformation the frequent venting of Crucifixes and Pop sh Pictures both engraven and printed and the placing of such in Bibles XII The multitude of Monopolies and Pattents drawing with them innumerable Perjuries the large encrease of Customes and Impositions upon Commodities the Ship-monies and many other great burthens upon the Common-wealth under which all groane XIII Moreover the Offices and Jurisdictions of Arch-bishop● lord-Lord-Bishops Deanes Arch-Deacons being the same way of Church Government which is in the Romish Church and which was in England in the time of Poperie little change thereof being made except onely the head from whence it was derived the same Arguments supporting the Pope which doe uphold the Prelates and overthrowing the Prelates which doe pull downe the Pope and other reformed Churches having upon their rejection of the Pope cast the Prelates out also as Members of the Beast Hence it is that the Prelates here in England by themselves or their Diciples plead and maintaine that the Pope is not Antichrist and that the Church of Rome is a
true Church hath not erred in Fundamentall points and that Salvation is attainable in that Religion and therefore have restrained to pray for the Conversion of our Soveraigne Lady the Queene Hence also hath come XIV The great Conformity and likenesse both continued and encreased of our Church to the Church of Rome in Vestures Postures Ceremonies and Administrations namely as the Bishops Rochets and the Lawne sleeves the foure-cornerd Cap the Cope and Surprisse the Tippet the Hood and the Canonicall Coat the Pulpits clothed especially now of late with the Jesuites Badge upon them every way XV. The standing up at Gloria Patri and at the reading the Gospell praying towards the East the bowing at the name of JESVS the bowing to the Altar towards the East Crosse in Baptisme the Kneeling at the Communion XVI The turning of the Communion Tables Altar-wise setting Images Crucifixes and Conceits over them and Tapers and Books upon them and bowing and adoring to or before them the reading of the second Service at the Altar and forcing people to come up thither to receive or else denying the Sacrament to them tearming the Altar to be the mercie-seat or the place of God Almighty in the Church which is a plaine device to usher in the Masse XVII The Christning and Consecrating of Churches and Chappell 's the Consecrating Fonts Pulpits Tables Chalices Churchyards and many other things and putting holinesse in them yea reconsecrating upon pretended pollution as though every thing were uncleane without their Consecrating and for want of this sundry Churches have beene interdicted and kept from use as polluted XVIII The Liturgie for the most part 's framed out of the Romish Breviary Ritualium Masse-book also the book of Ordination for Archbishops and Ministers framed out of the Roman Pontificall XIX The multitude of Canons formerly made wherein among other things Excommunication ipso facto is denounced for speaking of a word against the devises above said or subscription thereunto though no Law enjoyned a restraint from the Ministry without such subscription and Appeale is den●ed to any that should refuse subscription or unlawfull conformity though he be never so much wronged by the inferiour Judge also the Canons made in the late sacred Synod as they call it wherein are many strange and dangerous Devices to undermine the Gospel and the Subjects liberties to propagate Popery to spoyle Gods people insnare Ministers and other Students and so to draw all into an absolute subjection and thral dome to them and their government spoyling both the King and the Parliament of their power XX. The countenancing plurality of Benefices prohibiting of Marriages without their Lycence at certaine times almost halfe the yeare and lycensing of Marriages without Banes asking XXI Prophanation of the Lords day pleading for it and enjoyning Ministers to read a Declaration set forth as 't is thought by their procurement for tolerating of sports upon that day suspending and depriving many godly Ministers for not reading the same onely out of Conscience it was agaist the Law of God so to doe and no Law of the Land to enjoyne it XXII The pressing of the strict observation of Saints Dayes whereby great summes of Moneyes are drawne out of Mens purses for working on them a very high burthen on most people who getting their living by their dayly imployments must either omit them and be idle or part with their money whereby many poore families are undone or brought behind-hand yea many Church-wardens are sued or threatned to be sued by their troublesome Ministers as persured persons for not presenting their Parishioners who say●ed in observing Holy-dayes XXIII The great encrease and frequencie of Whoredomes and Adulteries occasioned by the Prelates corrupt administration of Justice in such Cases who taking upon them the punishment of it doe turne all into moneyes for the filling of their purses and lest their Officers should defraud them of their gaine they have in their late Canon in stead of remedying their vices decreed that the Commutation of Pennance shall not be without the Bishops privity XXIV The generall abuse of that great ordinance of Excommunication which God hath left in his Church to be used as the last and greatest punishment the Church can inflict upon obstinate and great Offenders and that the Prelates and their Officers who of right have nothing to doe with it doe daily excommunicate men either for doing that which is lawfull or for vaine idle and triviall matters as working or opening a shop on a Holiday for not appearing at every beck upon their summons not paying a fee or the like yea they have made it as they doe all other things a hook or instrument wherewith to empty mens purses and to advance their owne greatnesse and so that sacred ordinance of God by their preventing of it becomes contemptible to all men and seldome or never used against notorious offenders who for the most part are their favourites XXV Yea further the pride and ambition of the Prelates being boundlesse unwilling to be subject to either man or Lawes they claime their Office and Jurisdiction to be Iure divino exercise Ecclesiasticall authority in their owne names and Rights and under their owne Seales and take upon them Temporall dignities Places and Offices in the Common-wealth that they may sway both swords XXVI Whence followes the taking Commissions in their owne Courts and Consistories and where else they sit in matters determinable of Right at Common Law the putting of Ministers upon Parishes without the Patrons peoples consent XXVII The imposing of Oathes of various and triviall Articles yearely upon Church-wardens and Side-men which without perjury unlesse they fall at jarres continually with their Ministers and Neighbours and wholly neglect their owne calling XXVIII The exercising of the Oath Ex Officio and other proceedings by way of Inquisition reaching even to mens thoughts the apprehending and detaining of men by Pursivants the frequent suspending and depriving of Ministers fining and imprisoning of all sorts of people breaking up of mens Houses and Studies taking away mens Books Letters and other writings seizing upon their Estates removing them from their callings seperating betweene them and their wives against both their wills the rejecting of prohibitions with threatnings and the doing of many other out-rages to the utter infringing the Lawes of the Realme and the Subjects liberties and arraigning of them and their Families and of latter time the Judges of the Land are so awed with the power and greatnesse of the Prelates and other wayes promoted that neither prohibition Habeas Corpus or any other lawfull remedy can be had or take place for the distressed Subjects in most Cases onely Papists Iesuits Priests and such others as propagate Popery or Arminianisme are countenanced spared and have much liberty and from hence followed amongst others these dangerous Consequences I. FIrst the generall hope and expectation of the Romish part that their superstitious Religion will ere long be
conclusion of my argument submit to the judgement of this House I never delivered my opinion that mony ought to be raised but Ships provided for the defence of this Kingdome and in that the Writ was performed And that the charge ought not to be in any case but where the whole Kingdome was in danger And Master Justice Hutton and Master Iustice Crooke were of the same opinion with me I doe humbly submit having related unto you my whole carriage in this businesse humbly submitting my selfe to your grave and favourable censures beseeching you not to think that I delivered these things with the least intention to subvert or subject the common Law of the Kingdome or to bring in or to introduce any new way of government it hath bin farre from my thoughts as any thing under the heavens Master Speaker I have heard too that there hath bin some ill opinion conceived of me about Forrest businesse which was a thing farre out of the way of my study as any thing I know towards the Law But it pleased his Majesty in the sicknesse of Master Noy to give some short warning to prepare my selfe for that imployment When I came there I did both the King and Common-wealth acceptable service for I did and dare be bold to say with extreame danger to my selfe and fortune some doe understand my meaning herein run through that businesse and left the Forrest as much as was there A thing in my judgement considerable for the advantage of the Common-wealth as could be undertaken When I went downe about that imployment I satisfied my selfe about the matter of perambulation There were great difficulties of opinions what perambulation was I did arme my selfe as well as I could before I did any thing in it I did acquaint those that were then Iudges in the presence of the noble Lords with such objections as I thought it my duty to offer unto them If they thought they were not objections of such waight as were fit to stirre them I would not doe the King that disservice They thought the objections had such answers as might well induce the like upon a conference with the whole Country admitting mee to come and conferre with them the Country did unanimously subscribe It fell out afterwards that the King commanded me and all this before I was chiefe Iustice to goe into Essex and did then tell me he had beene enformed that the bounds of the Forrest were narrower then in truth they ought to be and I did according to his command I will here professe that which is knowne to many I had no thought or intention of enlarging the bounds of the Forrest further then H. and that part about it for which there was a perambulation about 26 Edward 4. I desired the Country to confer with me about it if they were pleased to doe it and then according to my duty I did produce those Records which I thought fit for his Majesties service leaving them to discharge themselves as by Law and Justice they might doe I did never in the least kind goe about to overthrow the charter of the Forrest And did publish and maintaine Charta de Foresta as a sacred thing and no man to violate it and ought to be preserved for the King and Common-wealth I doe in this humbly submit and what I have done to the goodnesse and Justice of this House FINIS Mr. Herbotle Grimstones second Speech in Parliament the 18. of December 1640. Master Speaker THere hath been presented to the house a most faithfull and exact report of the conference wee had with the Lords yesterday together with the opinion of the Committees that we imployed in the service that they conceaved it fit that the Archbishop of Canterbury should be sequestred and I must second the motion And with the favour of this House I shall be bold to offer my reasons why I conceive it more necessary wee should proceed a little further then the desire of a bare sequestration onely Master Speaker long Introductions are not suitable to wa●ghty businesses wee are now fallen upon the great man the Archbishop of Canterbury looke upon him as hee is in highnesse and he is the Stye of all pestilentiall filth that hath infected the State and Government of this Common wealth Looke upon him in his dependances and he is the man the onely man that hath raised and advanced all those that together with himselfe have beene the Authors and Causers of all our ruines miseries and calamities wee row groane under Who is it but he only that hath brought the Earle of Strafford to all his great places and imployments a fit spirit and instrument to act and execute all his wicked and bloudy Designes in these Kingdomes Who is it but hee onely that brought in Secretary Windibank into this place of service of trust the very Broker and Pander to the Whore of Babylon Who is it Master Speaker but hee onely that hath advanced all our Popish Bishops I shall name but some of them Bishop Manering the Bishop of Bath and Wells the Bishop of Oxford and Bishop Wren the least of all these birds but one of the most uncleane ones These are the men that should have fed Christs Flock but they are the Wolfes that have devoured them the Sheepe should have fed upon the Mountaines but the Mountaines have eaten up the Sheepe It was the happinesse of our Church when the Zeale of Gods house eat up the Bishops glorious and brave Martyrs that went to the Stake in defence of the Protestant Religion but the Zeale of the Bishops hath beene onely to persecute and eat up the Church Who is it Master Speaker but this great Archbishop of Canterbury that hath sitten at the helme to steere and to mannage all the projects that have beene set on foot in this Kingdome this tenne yeares last past and rather then hee would stand out he hath most unworthily trucked and chafered in the meanest of them as for instance that of Tobacco wherein thousands of poore people have beene stripped and turned out of their Trades for which they have served as Apprentizes wee all know he was the Compounder and Contracter with them for the Licences putting them to pay Fines and a fee Farme rent to use their Trade certainly Master Speaker hee might have spent his time much better and more for his Grace in the Pulpit then thus sherking and raking in the Tobacco-shops Master Speaker we all know what he hath been charged withall here in this house crimes of a dangerous consequence and of a transcendent nature no lesse then the subversion of the Government of this Kingdome and the alteration of the Protestant Religion and this is not upon bare information onely but much of it is come before us already upon cleare and minifest proofes and there is scarce any grievance or complaint come before us in this Place wherein we do not find him intermentioned and as it were twisted into
the East-Indies and may erect a Company of the West-Indies for the golden fleece which shall bee prepared for you whensoever you are ready for so great a Consultation The right way to nourish these North●●●e Trades is by his Majesties favour to presse the King of Denmarke to Justice not to come as his intolerable Taxes newly imposed upon Trade in the passage of the Sound in Examples whereof the Elector of Brandenburgh joyning with the King of Poland hath likewise more then trebled the ancient and capitulated Duties which if that they shall continue I pronounce all the Commerce of the Baltique Sea so over-burthened That the East-land Company cannot subsist nor without them and the Muscovie Company the Navigation but that the materials for shipping will be doubled which will eat out all Trades I have given you but Essayes and strooke little sparkes of fire before you My intention is but to provoke the wit and ability of others I have drawn you a Map wherein you cannot see things clearely and distinctly onely I introduce matter before you and now I have done when I have shewed you the way how to enlarge and bring every particular thing into debate To which end my motion and desire is this That we may send to every severall Company of Merchants trading in Companies and under Government and Priviledges and to aske of them what is their Grievances in their generall Trade not to rake into private Complaints what are the causes of decay or abuses in their Trades and of the want of money which is visible and of the great losses both to the Kingdome and to every particular by the late high exchanges and to desire every one of these Companies to set downe their judgement in writing to the Committee by a day appointed and having from them all the generall state of the complaints severally we shall make some judgements of these relations one to another this done I desire to require all the same severall Companies upon their owne papers to propose to us in writing the Remedies appliable in their judgement which materials having all together and comparing one with another we shall discover that truth which we seeke that is whether Trade and Money decay or not and how to remedy it But I have one request more and so I will ease you of my losse of your time That when from all these Merchants we shall have before us so much matter and without such variety and perhaps not without private and partiall ends that then you will give me leave to represent to you the names of some generall and others dis-interessed and wel experienced in many particulars who may assist our judgements in all the premisses particularly in moneys and exchanges and give us great light to prepare our result and resolution to bee by the whole House of Commons represented to his Majesty and for expedition that a sub-Committee may be named to direct this Information from the Merchants THE LORD FAUKLAND His SPEECH Concerning EPISCOPACY MASTER SPEAKER he is a great stranger in Israel who knowes not that this Kingdome hath long laboured under many and great oppressions both in religion and liberty and his acquaintance here is not great or his ingenuity lesse who doth not both know and acknowledge that a great if not a principall cause of both these have beene some Bishops and their adherents Master Speaker a little search will serve to find them to have beene the destruction of unitie under pretence of uniformity to have brought in superstition and scandall under the titles of reverence and decency to have defil'd our Church by adorning our Churches to have slackned the strictnesse of that union which was formerly betweene us and those of our religion beyond the sea an action as unpoliticke as ungodly Master Speaker wee shall finde them to have Tith'd Mint and Anise and have left undone the weightier works of the Law to have been lesse eager upon those who damne our Church then upon those who upon weake conscience and perhaps as weake reasons the dislike of some commanded garment or some uncommanded posture onely abstained from it Nay it hath been more dangerous for men to goe to some neighbours Parish when they had no sermon in their owne then to be obstinate and perpetuall Recusants while Masses have been said in security a conventicle hath beene a crime and which is yet more the conforming to ceremonies hath beene more exacted then the conforming to Christianity and whilest men for scruples have beene undone for attempts upon Sodomie they have onely beene admonished Master Speaker we shall find them to have beene like the hen in Esop which laying every day an egge upon such a proportion of barly her Mistresse increasing her proportion in hope shee would encrease her egges shee grew so fat upon that addition that shee never laid more so though at first their preaching were the occasion of their preferment they after made their preferment the occasion of their not preaching Master Speaker we shall find them to have resembled another fable the dog in the manger to have neither preached themselves nor employ'd those that should nor suffered those that would to have brought in catechising only to thrust out preaching cryed downe Lectures by the name of Factions either because their industry in that duty appeared a reproofe to their neglect of it not unlike to that we read of him who in Nero's time and Tacitus his story was accused because by his vertue he did appeare Exprobrare vitia Principis or with intention to have brought in darknesse that they might the easier sow their tares while it was night and by that introduction of ignorance introduce the better that Religion which accompts it the Mother of devotion Master Speaker in this they have abused his Majesty as well as his people for when they had with great wisedome since usually the children of darknesse are wiser in their generation then the children of light I may guesse not without some eye upon the most politicke action of the most politicke Church silenced on both parts those opinions which have often tormented the Church and have and will alway trouble the schooles they made use of this declaration to tye up one side and let the other loose whereas they ought either in discretion to have beene equally restrained or in justice to have beene equally tolerated And it is observable that that party to which they gave this licence was that whose doctrine though it were not contrary to law was contrary to custome and for a long while in this Kingdome was no oftner preached then recanted The truth is Master Speaker that as some ill Ministers in our state first tooke away our mony from us and after indeavoured to make our mony not worth the taking by turning it into brasse by a kind of Antiphilosophers-stone so these men used us in the point of preaching first depressing it to their power and next labouring to
in the North yet I dwell in England Sir BENJAMIN RUDYERDS Speech concerning the QUEENS Joynture Jan. 1640. Mr. SPEAKER GOD hath blessed the Queens Majestie with a blessed Progeny already whereby she hath relieved and fortified this Kingdome which may put us in minde in a fit time to provide according to their birth and interest Shee is the daughter of a great and famous King she is the wife of our King which to us includes all expressions But in one thing Mr. Speaker her Majestie is singular in that she is the Mother to the greatest Prince that hath beene borne amongst us above these hundred yeers which cannot but work a tendernesse in us The Queene likewise may be another Instrument of happinesse to us in her good affection to Parliaments by a good hansell in this And I beleeve we shall see effects of it for it neerly and wisely concernes her Majestie even in all the Relations that are most deare to her to contribute her best Assistance to Uphold the Government and greatnesse of the kingdome By which meanes also the king will be better enabled to make a further enlargement of his bounty towards her in some degree proportionable Wherefore Mr. Speaker it will become this House to shew our cheerfulnesse in passing of the Bill Articles against Doctor Piercie Bishop of Bath and Wells exhibited by Mr. James Minister within his Diocesse 1 HEE hath Ex officio convented mee before him for having two Sermons preached in my Church on Michaelmas day to the great disturbance hinderance of the sale of the Church Ale as his Lordship pretended and further examined me upon Oath whether I had not the said Sermons preached for the same purpose and intent admonishing me for the future neither to preach my selfe nor suffer any other to preach in my Cure in the afternoon of either the Lords-day or holy dayes 2 I heard him say to his Register That whereas Information had been given concerning certain Ministers that they expounded upon the Catechisme this Information was too narrow to catch them and therefore it should have runne thus that they Catechised or expounded upon the Catechisme Sermon-wise and then they would have been obnoxious to censure 3 At the meeting to elect Clerks of the Convocation he threatned to send forth Censures of the Church against all that would not pay in the Benevolence late granted in the late Synod within a fortnight after the second day of November last past And further at the said election his sonne gave eight single voyces two as Arch-Deacon of Bath two as Prebend of the Church of Wells two as Parson of Buckland Saint Mary two as Vicar of Kingsbury and many others also there present gave as many double voyces as they had Benefices and Dignities against which one Mr. Rosnell protested saying that it was illegall The Bishop replyed that they gave in severall capacities and thereupon commanded him silence saying that he was a young man 4. That upon the meer Information of Mr. Humphry Sydenham Rector of Buckington that in a certain Sermon Preached at the Visitation of the Arch Deacon of Taunton I bespattered the Clergie The Bishop summoned me before him down to Wells and there objected unto mee that I had preached a scandalous Sermon wherein I had cast some aspersions on some of the Clergy Upon which charge I proferd to bring in an exact Copy of the Sermon I preacht and to depose that I spake neither more nor lesse then was contained in the said Copy This the Bishop would not accept of saying that he would not have the Ministers who came to witnesse against mee troubled with a second journey One of my Proctors desired time till the next Court day for me to give in my answer the Bishop commanded him to hold his Peace and the other Proctor though he was retained by me had received a Fee never opened his mouth pretending unto me that because the Bishop was so highly displeased with mee he durst not appeare in my behalf being denyed time to give in my answer at the next Court day I desired respit untill the afternoon this also was denyed In fine contrary to the rules of their own Court he examined witnesses against me and proceeded to Censure me before he received my full answer he would not heare the answer which I could give to the Articles objected to me which I proferd to give and which he had by oath required me to give further by vertue of the oath he administred unto me he questioned me not only concerning matters of outward fact but also concerning my most secret thoughts intentions and aymes Moreover whereas the witnesses confessed that I only said in the foresaid Sermon that some put the Scriptures into a staged dresse the Bishop perswaded them that that expression was equivalent with the Article objected that some mens Sermons were Stage Playes and they by his perswasion swore down right that I saidsome mens Sermons were Stage Playes The Doctor made an Act and Order that I should make publique retractation which I refused to doe and appeald unto the Arches But upon either the Bishops or M. Sidenhams Information my Procter Hunt renounced my appeale and Sir John Lambe dismissed the same cause without hearing unto the Bishop againe 5 The Churchwardens of my Parish by order from the Bishop were enjoyned to turn the Communion Table and place it Altar-wise c. Now they that they might neither displease the Bishop nor transgresse against the Rubrick of the Liturgie made it an exact square Table that so notwithstanding the Bishops order the Minister might still Officiate at the North side of the Table M. Humphry Sydenham informed against this and upon Information the Bishop sent to view it and upon his view he certified the Bishop that it was like an Oyster Table whereupon the Bishop ordered the Churchwardens to make a new one 6 Upon M. Humphry Sydenhams Information that M. John Pym was a Parliamenteer the Bishop would not suffer me any longer to sojourn in his house although before such Information he gave me leave And when I demanded of some of his servants the reason why his Lordship had thus changed his minde they told me that his Lordship was informed by M. Sydenham that M. Pym was a Puritane The Lord Andevers speech in March 1640. concerning the Star-Chamber MY Lords since your Lordships have already looked so farre into priviledges of Peers as to make a strict inquisition upon forraign honours Let us not destroy that among our selves which we desire to preserve from strangers And if this greivance I shall move against have slept till now It is very considerable lest custome make it every day more apparent than other your Lordships very well know there was a Statute framed 3 Hen. 7. Authorizing the Chancellor Treasurer and Privy Seale and the two Chiefe Justices calling to them one Bishop and a temporall Lord of the Kings Councell to receive complaints
pleased to undertake and goe adventure with them And it was ordered by the Company that if that Farmer or adventurer should decease that then that partyes adventure should bee transferred to some other free Vintner and to none other and not to descend either to the Executors or Administrators of such Vintners so deceasing the said ten Farmers being nominated by the Company and adventured in the same farme of forty shillings per Tunne on Wine and Farme of Wine Licences which they likewise took by direction of the Company on the second of January 1640. Humbly Petitioned his Majesty to accept of the said Farmes they accounting to his Majesty for all moneys received from the beginning they having allowance for what they disbursed and stand engaged for for his Majesties service with interest and necessary charges without any profit to themselves And Master Alderman Abell and divers others the Contractors never dealt in grosse nor benefitted themselves by the Advance upon Retayle of wine so that he in all this hath bin but a person intreated into this businesse for the Company and no whit for himselfe nor hath otherwise or in any other manner as for other cause acted any thing at all in or concerning this busines To the High and Honourable Court of PARLIAMENT The humble Petition of the Vniversity of OXFORD Sheweth THAT whereas the Vniversitie hath been informed of severall Petitions concerning the present Government of this Church and maintenance of the Clergie which have of late been exhibited to this Honourable Assembly We could not but think our Selves bound in duty to God and this whole Nation in charity to our Selves and Successors who have and are like to have more then ordinary interest in any resolution that shall be taken concerning Church-affaires in all humility to desire the continuance of that form of Government which is now established here and hath been preserved in some of the Eastern and Western Churches in a continued Succession of Bishops downe from the very Apostles to this present time the like whereof cannot be affirmed of any other form of Government in any Church Upon which consideration and such other motives as have been already represented to this Honourable Parliament from other Persons and places with whom we concurr in behalf of Episcopacy We earnestly desire that you would protect that ancient and Apostolicall Order from ruine or diminution And become farther Suiters for the continuance of those pious Foundations of Cathedrall Churches with their Lands and Revenues As dedicate to the Service and Honour of God soon after the plantation of Christianity in the English Nation As thought fit and usefull to be preserved for that end when the Nurseries of Superstition were demolished and so continued in the last and best times since the blessed Reformation under King Edw. 6. Q Elizabeth K. James Princes renowned through the world for their piety and wisdome As approved and confirmed by the Laws of this land ancient and modern As the principall outward motive and encouragement of all Students especially in Divinity and the fittest reward of some deep and eminent Scholars As producing or nourishing in all ages many godly and learned men who have most strongly asserted the truth of that Religion we professe against the many fierce oppositions of our Adversaries of Rome As affording a competent portion in an ingenuous way to many younger Brothers of good Parentage who devote themselves to the Ministery of the Gospell As the onely means of subsistence to a multitude of Officers and other Ministers who with their Families depend upon them and are wholly maintained by them As the main Authors or upholders of diverse Schools Hospitalls High-wayes Bridges and other publique and pious works As speciall causes of much profit and advantage to those Cities where they are scituate not only by relieving their poore and keeping convenient Hospitality but by occasioning a frequent resort of Strangers from other parts to the great 〈◊〉 of all Tradesmen and most Inhabitants in those places As the goodly Monuments of our Predecessors Piety and present Honour of this kingdome in the eye of forreine Nations As the chiefe support of many thousand Families of the Laity who enjoy faire estates from them in a free way As yeelding a constant and ample revenue to the Crown And as by which many of the learned Professours in our Vniversity are maintained The subversion or alienation whereof must as we conceive not only be attended with such consequences as will redound to the scandall of many well affected to our Religion but open the mouths of our Adversaries and of Posterity against us and is likely in time to draw after it harder conditions upon a considerable part of the Laity an universall cheapnesse and contempt upon the Clergie a lamentable drooping and defection of industry and knowledge in the Vniversities which is easie to foresee but will be hard to remedy May it therefore please this Honourable Assembly upon these and such other Considerations as your great wisdomes shall suggest to take such pious care for the continuance of these Religious Houses and their Revenews according to the best intentions of their Founders as may be to the most furtherance of Gods glory and service the Honor of this Church and Nation the advancement of Religion and Learning the encouragement of the modest hopes and honest endeavours of many hundred Students in the Universities Who doe and shall ever pray c. Dat. An. Dom. millesimo sexcent ' quad ' primo è Domo Convocationis in celebri Conventu Doctorum ac Magistrerum omnibus singulis assentientibus The Speech of Sergeant Glanvill in the upper House of Parliament for the Redresse of the present Grievances His Majesty being seated on his Throne Sergeant Glanvill was called to the Barre being represented by the House of Commons for their Speaker who spake as followeth May it please your Majesty THE Knights Citizens and Burgesses of your Commons House of Parliament in conformity to ancient and most constant usage the best guide in great solemnities according to their well known priviledges a sure warrant for their proceedings and in obedience to your Majesties most gratious commands a duty well becomming loyall Subjects have met together and chosen a speaker one to be the mouth indeed the servant of all the rest to steare watchfully and prudently in all their weighty consultations and debates to collect faithfully and readily the Votes and genuine sense of that numerous assembly to propound the same seasonably in apt questions for their finall resolution and to present them and their conclusions their declarations with truth and light with life and lustre and with full advantage to your most Excellent Majesty With what Judgement with what temper spirit and elocution he ought to be endued your Majesty in your great wisedome is best able to discern both as it may relate to your own peculiar and important affairs of State to the proper
Lalors c. Selden of tithes 415. Eighthly The matters which are meerly and only spirituall which are properly of Ecclesiasticall cognizance were anciently by the Lawyers of this Kingdome heard and determined in the County and hundred Courts by the Sheriffe and the Bishop and by William the Conquerour these matters were taken thence and appropriated to the Bishop alone 2 R. 2. Rotul Parliament num 12. Selden of tithes 412. Book of Martyrs 154. And by the Law of God as I conceive they ought to be heard determined by them that have rule in the particular congregations and Churches Mat. 18.17 1 Cor. 5. which if it were so among us would be a wonderfull ease and save great charges to the subject And where the difficulty of case or greatnesse of the persons whom it may concern or where the Governors in particular Congregations demean not themselves as they ought it ought to be referred to a Synod of Presbyters so many as shall be thought meet as Acts 15. a question of difficulty arising in the particular Church of Antioch and the dissention growing great about the same they sent to Hierusalem and there the Apostles and Presbyters convened debated concluded and decreed the matter and imposed the observation thereof upon Antioch and other Churches ver 1.2.6.28 The Apostles would not meddle in the question without the Presbyters and other Bishops there were none there nor in the Churches And faelicius expediuntur negotia commissa pluribus in the multitude of Counsellors there is safety Proverb 11.14 And the change of our Laws in case this House shall see cause for it will not be so great or difficult as is conceived by some For ordination admonition suspension and deprivation of Presbyters and the judgement of the fitnesse of persons to be invested into Benefices Ecclesiasticall and the care of providing for the serving of Cures during the vacancy and avoydance of Churches and taking of the subscription of Ministers to the Articles of Religion 13 Eliz. cap. 12.14 Eliz. cap. 5. and the visiting of Hospitals whose Founders have appointed no visitors which are now in the Bishop may be settled in a convention of Presbyters to be appointed for every hundred from whom appeale may be had upon every gravamen to a greater Assembly of them and those Presbyters or any one of them may be inabled to give the Oathes of Supremacy and alleageance where the Bishop is authorised to give the same And Excommunication may be ordered to be certified by the Parson 3 Eliz. c. 1.7 Jac. cap. 6. Vicar or Stipendary of that Church where the party is excommunicate And all Churches presentative may be filled by investure of the Patrons and all questions concerning them be determined by the same rules of law as Donatives are And loyall Matrimony be tryed by a Jury where the woman is party to the suit as now it is where she is not party so E. 3.15 P. 5.11 H. 4.4 B. 30. and as it is now where the issue is Nient sa femme 12. E. 3. Briefe 481.50 E. 3.15 B. 7. H. 6.12 June 35. H. 6.9 P. 10. Coke 8. E. 4.12 a Laton And Bastardy generall Bastardy beyond Sea within the Stature 25 E. 3. De natis ultra mare may be made tryable by Jury as now speciall Bastardy is 11 Ass 20.38 ass 24.39 E. 3.31.6 7. Ed. 6. Dier 79. P. 52. So tithes may be reduced to the Common Law and be sued for there as it was ever in the case of the King or his Debtor 38. ass 20. Cok. r. 5.16 a Cawdreis case and as it is by the Statute of 2 and 3 E. 6. cap. 13. And for the Bishops attendance on tryals of life it is needlesse he being no Judge in it but the Court who may appoint any other or doe it themselves And for Sacring of Churches and other dead things it is fit to be neglected and left off being a Popish vaine superstition and without colour of countenance from the word of God the Leviticall consecrations being typicall and shadows of the good things we enjoy under the Gospel Heb. 9.19 c. The Bishop being thus reformed and reduced to a condition and state agreeable to the word of God the only right rule of reformation The Deans Chapters Vicars Generall Chancellors 25 Exod. 9 40. 1 Chron. 28.11.19 Ezek. 4.10 2 Cor. 4 6. and the rest of his Traine qua tales being tellaris inutile pondus are to be removed and taken away also as superfluous and uselesse We have intrusted the Episcopacy these fourescore and two years with the cure of Soules a trust of the highest concernment if we consider the price of Souls Our Saviour is at a stand in it What shall a man give in recompence for his Soule Mat. 16.26 the price of it is best seen in the price given for it God and man must become a curse to redeem it How have they discharged this trust Survay the Churches throughout the Kingdome and you shall finde neer eight parts of tenne of them filled with Idoll idle or scandalous Ministers whom the Bishops might have by law refused if discovered unto them before-hand and ought to have removed being discovered unto them afterwards And it hath aboundantly appeared this Parliament upon examinations taken in this House of Commons and the Committees thereof that when Ministers extreamly scandalous have been discovered to the Bishops and their Officers and in the High-commission Court they have received no further censure then admonition or to be put to purgation and so sent home to destroy more Soules as if they had not done sufficiently in that way before But if any godly learned and painfull Preacher hath been discovered by them they have sought out all occasions against such to thrust them out of the Church and lay their Congregations waste and desolate and every trifle though indifferent in their own account hath been made use of and sufficed them for this yea they have made occasions and traps to overthrow such worthies without Law and against Law And herein they have inherited the vertues of Diotrephes their first Predecessor who would not receive the brethren and forbad them that would and cast both out of the Church 3 John 10. And though some of the Bishops have been and are good men yet look into their Diocesse and the Churches in their gift and judge whether they be good Bishops or no you shall sinde them as faulty concerning this great trust as any of the rest And whether it be not from hence evident or at least greatly to be suspected that some curse cleaves to the very Office of Bishops when good men cannot manage it to any better purpose then the bad let any man judge This Spirituall Monarchy hath two incidents inseparable unto it first that it is alwayes incroaching and usurping upon other powers and swallowing them up as the series of all ages aboundantly manifests Secondly that it is ever
inclining and returning to Popery and the Religion of Antichirst as hath most cleerly appeared even in our daies as well as before since the restoring of Religion I shall for this time instance onely in three places of the Rubrick corrupted by Bishops In the Rubrick confirmed by act of Parliament in the beginning of it It is directed that prayer shall be in such place of the Church or Chancell and the Minister shall so turne him as the people may best heare In the Rubrick as it is now Printed prayer shall be used in the accustomed place c. except it shall be otherwise determined by the Ordinary Whereby they have introduced the Popish practice of reading Prayers at the upper end of the Chancell at their Altar where few in the Church can see them and fewer heare them and turning their faces to the East and their backs to the people in reading in the Desk and colour all with the determination of the Ordinary Secondly in the Letany there are these words in the book of Common prayer confirmed by the Statutes of 5. and 6. Ed. 6. and of 1 Eliz. From the tyranny of the Bishop of Rome and all his detestable enormities good Lord deliver us and that the Bishops in the latter books have caused to be left out wholly Thirdly in the Rubrick concerning the administration of the Lords Supper as it stands now altered an excellent declaration of the reason why kneeling at this Sacrament was left in the reformation and a renunciation of Transubstantiation Consubstantiation adoration of the bread and wine as abhominable Idolatries are wholly obliterate and left out that the use of that gesture there might be rendred the more suspicious and superstitious and a more clear way might be made to induce the Popish superstitious innovations that have been since obtruded upon us concerning the Table Altar supreminent presence of God almighty there cringings Altar-worship and the like And I conceive alterations were made by the Bishops as appeares unto me by the Proclamation they procured to be set forth 5. Martii 1. Jac. concerning the booke of Common prayer And how can things prosper better in the hands of the Episcopacy when Gods blessing alone giveth out prosperity and the Lord disposeth his blessing in his owne way only and not in any other And this being no plant planted by God in his Church how can it be expected it should yeeld us any better fruits then we have received from it Againe if I be not much deceived the Episcopacy in whatsoever it exceeds the Presbyters office in which sense only I speak of it is abranch of the Hierarchy of Rome and of the Antichrist and of that consider what is prophesied Revel 14.11 They shall not have any rest day nor night that receive any print of the name of the Beast and examine the former and present times whether the same hath not been verified among us and in all such places where that Hierarchy hath been entertained whether the most troubles and miseries of the Churches and in great part also of the Common-wealth have not sprung from the said Episcopacy and the fruites thereof Therefore let us proceed to the perfecting of the Reformation of our Church and to the gathering out of it every stone that offends even whatsoever is not according to God and the standard of his word and reduce every thing in the government to the rule and walke in it in Gods way which is the sure way to have his presence with us and blessing upon us and ours for ever It hath ever been a point of higher honour from God and of greater acceptance and esteem with him to advance the reformation of his Church and worship 2 Cro. 17.6 3. iI● 1 Kings 15.14 2 Kings 12.3 1 Cron. 28.16 Zac. 4.7 and was ever will be a reproach from him and blot upon such as have left any thing not agreeable to his word unreformed and not taken away Up then let us be doing and the Lord will goe before us and make plain all mountains that may occurre in our way and give a blessed issue and successe To the honorable Houses of Parliament now assembled The humble Petition of many of the Inhabitants within his Majesties County of Kent Most humbly shewing THat by sad experience we doe daily finde the Government of the Church of England by arch-Arch-Bishops Bishops Deans and Arch-Deacons with their Courts Jurisdictions and Administrations by them and their inferiour Officers to be very dangerous both to Church and Commonwealth to be the occasions of manifold Grievances unto his Majesties Subjects in their Consciences Liberties and Estates and likely to be fatall unto us in the continuance thereof the dangerous effects of which Lordly power in them have often appeared in these particulars following 1 They doe with a hard hand over-rule all other Ministers subjecting them to their cruell Authority 2 They doe suspend and deprive many godly Religious and painfull Ministers upon sleight and upon no grounds whilest in the mean time few of them preach the Word of God themselves and that but seldome but they doe restrain the painfull preaching of others both for Lectures and for afternoon Sermons on the Sabbath day 3 They doe countenance and have of late encouraged Papist Priests and Arminian books and persons 4 They hinder good and godly books yet they doe license to be published many Popish and Arminian and other dangerous Books and Tenents 5 They have deformed our Churches with Popish Pictures and seated them with Romish Altars 6 They have of late extolled and commended much the Church of Rome denying the Pope to be Antichrist affirming the Church of Rome to be a true Church in Fundamentals 7 They have practised and enforced antiquated and obsolete Ceremonies as standing at all Hymns and at Gloria patri turning to the East at severall parts of the Divine Service Bowing at the Altar which they term the place of Gods Refidence upon earth the reading of a second Service at the Altar and denying the holy Sacrament of the Eucharist to such as have not come up to the new set rayl before the Altar 8 They have made and confirmed new illegall Canons and Constitutions and framed a most pernitious and desperate Oath an Oath of covenant and confederacy for their own Hierarchicall greatnesse besides many other very dangerous and pernitious passages in the said Canons 9 They doe dispense with pluralities of Benefices they doe both prohibit and grant Marriages neither of them by the rule of Law or Conscience but doe prohibit that they may grant and grant that they may have money 10 They have procured a licentious liberty for the Lords day and have pressed the strict observation of the Saints Holydayes and doe punish suspend and deprive godly Ministers for not publishing that book for liberty of sports on the Sabbath day 11 They doe generally abuse the great Ordinance of Excommunication making a great gain of it
sometimes to the great discomfort of many poore soules who for want of money can get no absolution 12 They claim their Office and Jurisdiction to be jure divino and doe exercise the same contrary to Law in their own names and under their own Seals 13 They receive and take upon them temporall Honours Dignities Places and Offices in the Common wealth as if it were lawfull for them to use both swords 14 They cognizance in their Courts and elswhere of matters determinable at the Common Law 15 They put Ministers upon Parishes without the Patrons and without the peoples consent 16 They doe yearly impose Oaths upon Churchwardens to the most apparent danger of filling the land with perjuries 17 They doe exercise Oaths Ex Officio in the Nature of an inquisition even unto the thoughts of mens 18 They have apprehended men by Pursevants without ciration or missives first sent they break up mens houses and studies taking away what they please 19 They doe aw the Judges of the Land with their greatnesse to the inhibiting of prohibition and hindering of Habeas Corpus when it is due 20 They are strongly suspected to be confederated with the Roman party in this Land and with them to be Authors Contrivers or Consenters to the present Commotions in the North and the rather because of a Contribution by the Clergy and by the Papists in the last year 1639. and because of an ill-named benevolence of six Subfidies granted or intended to be granted this yeare 1640. thereby and with these monies to ingage as much as in them lay the two Nations into blood It is therefore our humble and earnest prayer that all this Hierarchicall power may be totally abrogated if the wisdome of this Honourable House shall finde that it cannot be maintained by Gods word and to his glory And your Petitioners shall ever pray c. The Petition of the Citizens of London to both house of Parliament wherein is a Demonstration of their grievances together with their desires for Justice to be excuted upon the Earle of Strafford and other DELINQUENTS To the most Honorable Assembly of the Lords and Commons in this present Parliament The humble Petition of divers Citizens of London SHeweth that notwithstanding his Majesties gracious Answer to the humble Petition of his Loyall Subjects in summoning this Parliament with the great care and endeavoured pains taken by both Houses for the removing the heavy Grievances in Church and Commonwealth whereof the Petitioners have already received some fruit for which they desire to return their most humble and utmost thanks yet neverthelesse they are inforced with all Humility to represent to this most Honourable assemblly some of these Obstructions which doe still hinder that freedome and fulnesse of Trade in this City they have formerly had which considering the numerous Multitude thereupon depending they conceive it not able comfortably to subsist As the unsetled Condition of the Kingdome even since the troubles in Scotland hath caused both strangers and also of our own who did furnish great summs of money to Use to call it in and remit much of it by Exchange unto Forraine pars and stands now in Expectation of what the issue of things may be The stopping money in the Mint which till then was accompted the safest place and surest staple in these parts in the world still doth hinder the importation of Bullyon the Scots now disabled to pay such debts as they owe to the Petitioners and others in the City and by reason of the oppressions exercised in Ireland their debts also are detained there The English Trade by reason of our generall distractions and fears is so much decayed that Country tradesmen can not pay their debts in London as formerly The great summs of money unduly taken by his Majesties Officers and Farmers for impositions upon Merchandize exported and imported and the want of reliefe in Courts of Justice against them The drawing out from the City great summs of money which is the life and spirit of Trade for his Majesties service in the North and being there imployed is not yet returned Besides all which from what strong and secret opposition the Petitioners know not they have not received what so much time and pains might give and cause to hope but still incendiaries of the Kingdoms and other notorious offenders remain unpunished the affaires of the Church notwithstanding many Petitions concerning it and long debate about it remains unsettled the Papists still armed the Laws against them not executed some of the most active of them still at Court Priests and Jesnits not yet banished the Irish Popish army not yet disbanded Courts of Justice not yet reformed and the Earle of Strafford who as now appears hath counselled the plundering of this City and putting it to fine ransome and said it would never be well till some of the Aldermen were banged up because they would not yeeld to illegall levies of moneys hath so drawn out and spent his time in his businesse to the very great charge of the whol Kingdome and his endeavour to obtain yet more all which makes us fear there may be practices now in hand to hinder the birth of your great endeavours and that we lie under some more dangerous plot then we can discover All which premisses with their fears and distractions growing there-from and from things of the like nature the Petitioners humbly offer to the most grave consideration of this most honorable assembly as being the true causes of decay of Trade discouragement of Tradesmen and of the great scarcity of monies with the consequences they labour under And do humbly pray that their said grievances may be redressed the causes of their fears removed Justice executed upon the said Earle and other incendiaries and offenders the rather in regard till then the Petitioners humbly conceive neither Religion nor their lives liberties or estates can besecured And as in duty bound they shall ever pray c. Subscribed to this Petition 20000. all men of good ranke and quality Sir John Wrayes Speech concerning Bishops 1641. THE first challenge for Lordly Primacy hath of old been grounded out of the great Charter by which they hold an Episcopall Primacy or Jurisdiction to be long to their state of Prelacy this is their temporall soundation and main object Here I demand of them unto what Church this great Charter was granted and whether it were not granted unto the Church of GOD in England Let the words of the Magna Charta decide this which are these Concessimus Deo pro●nobis in perpetuum quod Ecclesia Anglicana libera sit habeat omnia Jura sua iutegra libertates suas illaesas Now by this Charter if it be rightly interpreted there is first provision made that honour and worship be yeelded unto God as truly and indeed belong unto him Secondly that not only such Rights and Liberties as the King and his Progenitors but also that such as