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A26943 Mr. Baxter's judgment and reasons against communicating with the parish-assemblies, as by law required, impartially stated and proposed Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1684 (1684) Wing B1289; ESTC R14325 19,788 40

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be_v unjust_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o by_o its_o very_a law_n excommunicate_v ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la be_v no_o damn_v nor_o sinful_a schismatic_a for_o worship_v god_n in_o a_o church_n that_o will_v receive_v he_o but_o according_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o mr._n baxter_n protestant_n dissenter_n be_v unjust_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o by_o its_o very_a law_n ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la excommunicate_v ergo_fw-la they_o be_v not_o sinful_a schismatic_n when_o mr._n baxter_n speak_v of_o go_v to_o another_o church_n mr._n baxter_n must_v be_v understand_v to_o mean_v a_o withhold_a communion_n from_o the_o excommunicate_a church_n and_o commuicate_v with_o another_o who_o law_n do_v not_o ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la excommunicate_a the_o which_o be_v so_o the_o argument_n against_o mr._n baxter_n be_v valid_a for_o the_o acquit_v their_o separation_n from_o the_o gild_n of_o sin_n §_o 12._o there_o be_v another_o argument_n which_o mr._n baxter_n in_o 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