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supper_n will_v appear_v from_o the_o follow_a passage_n which_o he_o transcribe_v also_o out_o of_o dionysius_n areopagita_n albaspinaeus_n and_o the_o apology_n of_o the_o waldenses_n pag._n 21_o 22._o 4._o though_o i_o must_v confess_v i_o think_v the_o ancient_n sometime_o at_o least_o if_o not_o ordinary_o mean_v something_o more_o viz._n a_o perfection_n of_o grace_n as_o well_o as_o church-priviledge_n by_o that_o perfection_n which_o be_v usual_o attribute_v by_o they_o to_o confirmation_n for_o say_v cyprian_n p._n 20._o cite_v by_o our_o author_n such_o as_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o church_n be_v offer_v to_o the_o overseer_n of_o the_o church_n that_o by_o our_o prayer_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n they_o may_v receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o be_v consummate_a through_o the_o gift_n thereof_o by_o the_o lord_n seal_v tum_fw-la demum_fw-la say_v he_o in_o another_o place_n plenè_fw-la sanctificari_fw-la that_o be_v the_o grace_n and_o esse_fw-la silij_fw-la dei_fw-la that_o be_v the_o privilege_n possunt_fw-la si_fw-la sacramento_n utroque_fw-la nascantur_fw-la and_o yet_o more_o full_o to_o our_o purpose_n it_o be_v also_o necessary_a say_v he_o for_o he_o that_o be_v baptize_v to_o be_v anoint_v that_o the_o chrism_n be_v receive_v he_o may_v be_v the_o annoit_v of_o god_n i._n e._n perfect_o a_o christian_n as_o it_o be_v gloss_a and_o have_v in_o he_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n yet_o here_o again_o we_o may_v distinguish_v and_o with_o ease_n and_o pass_v over_o perfection_n of_o the_o member_n and_o of_o the_o membership_n any_o objection_n hence_o to_o be_v raise_v for_o there_o be_v a_o perfection_n of_o the_o member_n and_o a_o perfection_n of_o the_o membership_n i_o grant_v confirmation_n may_v serve_v to_o perfect_v the_o member_n but_o deny_v it_o any_o hand_n in_o perfect_v the_o membership_n viz._n the_o person_n relation_n to_o or_o interest_n in_o the_o church_n which_o i_o believe_v the_o ancient_n never_o intend_v a_o plaster_n 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