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A61532 The Council of Trent examin'd and disprov'd by Catholick tradition in the main points in controversie between us and the Church of Rome with a particular account of the times and occasions of introducing them : Part 1 : to which a preface is prefixed concerning the true sense of the Council of Trent and the notion of transubstantiation. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1688 (1688) Wing S5569; ESTC R4970 128,819 200

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be_v a_o real_a and_o public_a declaration_n of_o their_o sorrow_n for_o their_o sin_n and_o not_o a_o verbal_a or_o auricular_a confession_n of_o they_o the_o same_o be_v own_v by_o la_fw-fr cerda_n but_o boileau_n pretend_v 72._o that_o it_o have_v not_o this_o sense_n till_o after_o the_o novatian_a heresy_n and_o the_o death_n of_o irenaeus_n and_o that_o before_o that_o time_n it_o signify_v confession_n according_a to_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n in_o scripture_n this_o seem_v very_o strange_a when_o baronius_n himself_o confess_v that_o tertullian_n use_v it_o for_o that_o part_n of_o 56._o penance_n which_o be_v call_v satisfaction_n and_o bellarmin_n grant_v it_o be_v so_o use_v both_o by_o tertullian_n and_o irenoeus_n when_o he_o say_v the_o woman_n seduce_v by_o marcus_n afterward_o spend_v her_o day_n in_o exmologesi_n what!_o in_o continual_a confession_n of_o 9_o her_o sin_n no_o but_o in_o penitential_a act_n for_o it_o and_o so_o petavius_n understand_v it_o 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offender_n be_v destroy_v s._n chrysostom_n himself_o several_a time_n ephes._n mention_n those_o who_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o penitent_n and_o the_o prayer_n that_o be_v make_v for_o they_o to_o what_o purpose_n in_o case_n the_o whole_a order_n of_o penitent_n be_v take_v away_o he_o likewise_o speak_v of_o the_o charge_n for_o the_o penitent_n to_o go_v out_o what_o a_o mockery_n be_v this_o if_o there_o be_v no_o public_a discipline_n then_o leave_v and_o lest_o it_o shall_v be_v say_v that_o these_o thing_n be_v say_v by_o he_o at_o antioch_n before_o the_o fact_n of_o nectarius_n i_o have_v show_v already_o that_o the_o latter_a homily_n on_o s._n matthew_n be_v make_v by_o he_o at_o constantinople_n and_o in_o his_o liturgy_n there_o use_v the_o dismission_n of_o the_o penitent_n be_v continue_v 6._o while_o the_o public_a discipline_n be_v keep_v in_o the_o several_a church_n none_o be_v enjoin_v to_o undergo_v it_o but_o open_a and_o public_a offender_n the_o evidence_n 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to_o any_o of_o they_o but_o on_o the_o contrary_a even_o in_o france_n such_o translation_n have_v be_v vehement_o oppose_v by_o the_o bishop_n and_o divine_n there_o as_o be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o this_o be_v apparent_a by_o a_o book_n publish_v by_o order_n of_o the_o gallican_n clergy_n a._n d._n 1661._o wherein_o it_o be_v say_v that_o it_o be_v the_o common_a and_o unanimous_a sense_n and_o practice_n of_o all_o orthodox_n lector_fw-la person_n that_o neither_o the_o scripture_n nor_o divine_a office_n ought_v to_o be_v put_v into_o vulgar_a language_n it_o be_v injurious_a to_o the_o christian_a church_n and_o give_v occasion_n of_o offence_n to_o the_o weak_a and_o unlearned_a how_o then_o can_v we_o imagine_v that_o such_o translation_n shall_v not_o only_o be_v allow_v but_o approve_v among_o they_o and_o beside_o the_o entire_a treatise_n there_o collect_v against_o they_o of_o card._n hosius_n lizetius_fw-la spiritus_fw-la roterus_fw-la ledesma_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o fragment_n and_o testimony_n of_o several_a other_o we_o have_v a_o particular_a account_n of_o the_o proceed_n of_o the_o sorbon_n as_o to_o this_o matter_n in_o the_o censure_n of_o erasmus_n dec._n 17._o 1527._o the_o sorbon_n declare_v vulgar_a translation_n of_o scripture_n to_o be_v dangerous_a and_o pernicious_a the_o like_a declaration_n have_v be_v make_v before_o a._n d._n 1525._o and_o that_o all_o translation_n of_o the_o bible_n or_o of_o the_o part_n thereof_o ought_v rather_o to_o be_v suppress_v than_o tolerate_v a._n d._n 1607._o the_o faculty_n again_o declare_v that_o it_o do_v not_o approve_v any_o translation_n of_o scripture_n into_o the_o vulgar_a language_n but_o j._n w._n instance_n p._n 26._o in_o some_o translation_n that_o have_v be_v approve_v as_o a_o french_a translation_n by_o the_o doctor_n of_o louvain_n but_o in_o the_o french_a collection_n before_o mention_v i_o find_v that_o a._n d._n 1620._o dec._n 1._o a_o debate_n arise_v in_o the_o faculty_n at_o louvain_n about_o it_o and_o the_o faculty_n declare_v that_o it_o by_o no_o mean_n approve_v of_o it_o another_o be_v of_o rene_n benoit_n which_o be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v approve_v that_o it_o be_v first_o condemn_v by_o the_o faculty_n at_o paris_n and_o then_o send_v to_o rome_n to_o be_v condemn_v by_o the_o pope_n which_o be_v effectual_o do_v and_o gregory_n xiii_o direct_v his_o bull_n to_o the_o faculty_n of_o divinity_n in_o paris_n nou._n 3._o a._n d._n 1575._o rejicimus_fw-la wherein_o he_o do_v express_o forbid_v this_o translation_n and_o reject_v it_o with_o a_o anathema_n and_o yet_o this_o very_a translation_n of_o rene_n benoit_n be_v one_o of_o those_o make_v by_o catholic_n and_o approve_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n which_o j._n w._n refer_v i_o to_o one_o of_o we_o two_o must_v needs_o be_v under_o a_o great_a mistake_n but_o to_o who_o it_o belong_v i_o leave_v the_o reader_n