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A45828 A peaceable enquiry into that novel controversie about reordination With certain close, but candid animadversions upon an ingenious tract for the lawfulness of reordination; written by the learned and Reverend Mr. J. Humphrey. By R.I. I. R. 1661 (1661) Wing I10A; ESTC R219975 68,572 176

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l._n 2._o c_o 19_o de_fw-fr min._n eccl._n p._n 182._o de_fw-fr min._n evan._n p._n 166.186_o miscel_n quest_n p._n 34._o ordo_fw-la signaculum_fw-la quoddam_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la est_fw-la quo_fw-la spiritual_fw-la be_v potest_fw-la as_o traditur_fw-la ordinato_fw-la say_v p._n lombard_n justify_v herein_o by_o aquin_n as_o so_o say_v that_o other_o learned_a schoolman_n estius_n ordo_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la est_fw-la novae_fw-la legis_fw-la à_fw-la christo_fw-la inst●tutum_fw-la quo_fw-la potest_fw-la as_o spiritual_a be_v traditur_fw-la etc._n etc._n so_o bellarmine_n in_o sacramento_fw-la ordinis_fw-la adscribitur_fw-la in_o numerum_fw-la ducum_fw-la &_o praepositorum_fw-la huius_fw-la militiae_fw-la &_o accipit_fw-la potestatem_fw-la distribuendi_fw-la aliis_fw-la bona_fw-la domini_fw-la etc._n etc._n gerard_n say_v effectus_fw-la ordinationis_fw-la proprius_fw-la est_fw-la collatio_fw-la potestatis_fw-la docendi_fw-la &_o sacramenta_fw-la administrandi_fw-la ad_fw-la illum_fw-la 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description_n of_o ordination_n before_o mention_v add_v thus_o much_o more_o with_o who_o agree_v the_o stream_n of_o divine_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o new_a england_n which_o story_n of_o new_a england_n i_o confess_v i_o shall_v hardly_o believe_v 83._o schism_n p._n 83._o do_v not_o a_o new_a england_n man_n tell_v it_o lo_o here_o you_o see_v be_v two_o sort_n of_o divine_n and_o what_o shall_v we_o do_v with_o they_o we_o will_v resolve_v to_o reverence_v they_o both_o but_o pin_v our_o faith_n on_o the_o sleeve_n of_o neither_o i_o proceed_v therefore_o to_o inquire_v into_o the_o nature_n of_o ordination_n and_o here_o i_o grant_v what_o indeed_o can_v be_v deny_v 1._o that_o jesus_n be_v the_o principal_a constituent_n of_o the_o ministerial_a power_n or_o office_n and_o he_o be_v most_o proper_o the_o ordainer_n and_o his_o act_n be_v most_o proper_o ordination_n 2._o that_o the_o gospel-charter_n be_v the_o instrument_n to_o convey_v this_o power_n 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repeti_fw-la inquit_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la prohibent_fw-la regulae_fw-la 1●_n insent_n com._n l._n 4._o in_o do_v in_o 1._o p._n 1●_n &_o semel_fw-la sanctificatis_fw-la nulla_fw-la deinceps_fw-la manus_fw-la iterum_fw-la consecrans_fw-la praesumit_fw-la accedere_fw-la nemo_fw-la sacros_fw-la ordines_fw-la semel_fw-la datos_fw-la iterum_fw-la renovat_fw-la nemo_fw-la impositioni_fw-la manuum_fw-la utministerio_fw-la derogat_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la quia_fw-la contumeliaesset_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la si_fw-la evacuari_fw-la posset_n quod_fw-la ille_fw-la sanctificat_fw-la &_o alia_fw-la sanctificatione_n emendaret_fw-la quod_fw-la semel_fw-la ille_fw-la statuit_fw-la &_o confirmat_fw-la 7._o be_v not_o reordination_n a_o injury_n to_o our_o incomparable_a charter_n by_o which_o be_v convey_v from_o the_o king_n of_o saint_n this_o power_n and_o privilege_v ministerial_a to_o rule_v in_o his_o spiritual_a corporation_n it_o be_v certain_o true_a that_o as_o christ_n church_n 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