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A88228 The opressed mans opressions declared: or, An epistle written by Lieut. Col. John Lilburn, prerogative prisoner (by the illegall and arbitrary authority of the House of Lords) in the Tower of London, to Col. Francis West, Lieutenant thereof: in which the opressing cruelty of all the gaolers of England is declared, and particularly the Lieutenant of the Tower. As also, there is thrown unto Tho. Edwards, the author of the 3 vlcerous Gangrænes, a bone or two to pick: in which also, divers other things are handled, of speciall concernment to the present times. Lilburne, John, 1614?-1657. 1647 (1647) Wing L2149A; Thomason E373_1; ESTC R201322 33,049 40

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other cause but for standing for the Fundamentall Lawes of England which if he had not an absolute desire to be notoriously forsworn he might know his Covenant binds him to doe the same But seeing he there playes the simple man to fight with his own shadow and doth not in the least meddle for any thing I can perceive by so much as I have read of his Book which so near as I could find was every place where I was mentioned with the Statutes and other Legall Authorities as I cite in my wives petition and else-where to prove That all the Commoners of England ought in all criminall cases to be tryed by their Peeres that is Equals and that the House of Lords in the least are not the Peeres of Commoners And therefore seeing seemingly by that ulcerous book he hath given me something to answer that concerns me I will really and substantially give him something to answer that in good earnest concerneth him and all the rest of his bloody-minded pretended reformed fellow-Clergy Presbyters that lying deceitfull forsworn and bloody Sect of whom it is true that the Prophet said of the Prophets of old That they make the people to erre and bite with their teeth and cry peace and he that putteth not into their mouthes they even prepare warre against him Micah 3.5 And that at present I have to put to him to answer shall be certain Arguments which I made when I was close prisoner in irons in the Fleet against the then Episcopall Ministers of the Church of England and will serve in every particular against the present Presbyteriall Ministers and you shall find them thus laid down in the 23. page of my Book called An Answer to 9. Arguments written by T. B. and printed at London 1645. First Thtt every lawfull Pastor Bishop Minister or Officer in the visible Church of Christ ought to have a lawfull call and be lawfully chosen into his Office before he can be a true Officer in the Church of Christ Acts 1.23 24 25. 6.3.5 6. 14.23 Gal. 1.1 Heb. 5.4 But the Ministers and Officers in the Church of England as well Presbyterian as Episcopall have not a lawfull call neither are lawfully chosen to be officers in the Church of Christ See the Book of Ordination of Bishops Priests and Deacons as also the Directory and compare them with the Scripture Therefore all your Ministers are false and Antichristian Officers Rev. 9.3 and 13.2 and 16.13 Secondly the doing of those actions that belong to the execution of an Office doth not prove a man to be a lawfull Officer but a lawfull power instating him into his Office Acts. 8.4.11.19.20 and 18.24 25 26. 1 Cor. 14.29 30 31. 1 Pet. 4.10 But all the Ministers in the Church of England have nothing to prove the lawfulnesse of their standing in the Ministery but the actions of a Minister and are not in the least able to prove that they are instated into their Ministery by vertue of a lawfull power and authority Therefore they are no true Ministers of Christ but false and Antichristian Ministers of Antichrist Thirdly againe in the third place upon your own grounds I frame this Argument Those that by their Ministery do not accomplish the same ends that the Ministery of the Apostles did are no true Ministers But the Ministers of the Church of England do not accomplish the same ends by their Ministery that the Ministery of the Apostles did 1 Cor. 11.2 Therefore your Ministers are no true Ministers of Iesus Christ But Gangrena one word more at present to you seeing in the 217.218 pages of your late 3. Gangrena you fall so exceeding heavie upon me and my honest Camerade Mr. Overton and say that these 2. audacious men their dareing bookes shall escape without exemplary punishment and instead thereof be countenanced and set free I do as a Minister pronouncae but I say it is as one of Sathans that the plague of God will fall upon the heads of those that are the cause of it Come Antagonist let us come to a period for I hope for all your mallice you are not yet so farre gone beyond your selfe as to desire to have me hanged or killed and then condemned and adjudged and therefore I will make you 2. faire propositions First in reference to the Lords whose Goliah and Rabshaca-like Champion you are that if you please to joyne with me in a desire to both Houses I will so far go below my selfe and my present appeale now in the House of Commons alwayes provided it may be no prejudice to the benefit I justly expect from my said appeale and joyne with you in this desire that there may be by both Houses a proportionable number thereof mutually by themselves chosen out to set openly and publickly in the painted Chamber where I will against you by the established Lawes of this Land maintaine against you and all the Lawyers you can bring this position which is absolutely the contest betwixt the Lords and me THAT THE LORDS AS A HOVSE OF PEERS HATH NO JVRISDISCTION AT ALL OVER ANY COMMONER IN ENGLAND IN ANY CRIMINALL CASE WHATSOEVER and if you will I will wholly as in reference to the contest betwixt you and me stand to the vote and abide the judgement and sentence of that very Committee whose vote upon the fore-mentioned tearmes if you will tye your selfe I will tye my selfe either actively to execute or passively to suffer and undergo it In the second place because so farre as I am able to understand your meaning in your fore-mentioned pages you would have me dealt withall as the Earle of Strafford and the Bishop of Canterbury was for indeavouring as you say with so much violence the overthrow of the three Estates and the Lawes of the Kingdome and in the stead of the fundamentall Government and constitution of this Kingdome to set up an Vtopian Anarchy of the promiscuous multitude and the lusts and uncertaine fancies of weake people for Lawes and Rules Now in regard of the distractions of the Kingdome which are many and that they might not be made wider by new bookes from either of us I shall be very willing for peace and quiets sake to joyne with you in a Petition to the House of Commons to appoint a select Committee publickly to examin all things that are a misse in your bookes and myne and to punish either or both according to Law and Iustice without partiality and I appeale to all rationall men in the world whether I have not offered fayre or no. But in regard I know not whether you will imbrace my proffer I shall speake a little more for my selfe and reduce all to these three heads First whether the Lords have by the known Law of the Land any jurisdiction of the Commons or no Secondly whether in the Parliaments own publick declarations in Mr. Prinns soveraigne power of Parliaments and in the Assemblies exhortation to the solemn legall Covenant and