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A43801 A debate on the justice and piety of the present constitution under K. William in two parts, the first relating to the state, the second to the church : between Eucheres, a conformist, and Dyscheres, a recusant / by Samuel Hill ... Hill, Samuel, 1648-1716. 1696 (1696) Wing H2008; ESTC R34468 172,243 292

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of_o necessity_n if_o then_o elias_n acquiesce_v not_o by_o law_n but_o choice_n this_o make_v a_o ratify_a concession_n to_o john_n government_n and_o hereupon_o theodosius_n and_o sabas_n may_v well_o communicate_v with_o both_o since_o they_o both_o hold_v communion_n one_o with_o the_o other_o either_o by_o the_o session_n or_o concession_n of_o elias_n but_o here_o a_o shrewd_a hard_a question_n intervene_v if_o the_o church_n always_o own_v the_o orthodox_n possessor_n of_o another_o chair_n without_o schism_n how_o can_v the_o orthodox_n eject_v bishop_n rival_n and_o contest_v the_o intrude_v possessor_n without_o schism_n or_o injury_n do_v in_o challenge_v his_o right_n while_o yet_o his_o right_n will_v be_v take_v for_o quit_v if_o he_o shall_v not_o challenge_v it_o now_o during_o the_o challenge_n he_o must_v renounce_v the_o possessor_n and_o all_o communion_n with_o he_o as_o such_o who_o yet_o the_o whole_a church_n according_a to_o the_o dr._n lawful_o receive_v for_o 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from_o the_o communion_n that_o be_v assert_v to_o have_v be_v between_o they_o for_o be_v apparent_o no_o anti-bishop_n the_o natural_a and_o legal_a presumption_n must_v be_v that_o elias_n allow_v he_o and_o that_o be_v a_o canonical_a ground_n for_o the_o church_n regular_a communion_n with_o he_o though_o before_o there_o seem_v none_o except_o elias_n have_v be_v remove_v beyond_o all_o capacity_n of_o communion_n which_o its_o plain_a he_o be_v not_o so_o than_o it_o be_v not_o the_o substitution_n of_o a_o new_a bishop_n in_o the_o chair_n of_o another_o utter_o latent_fw-la or_o remove_v from_o all_o possible_a communication_n that_o make_v a_o schism_n but_o when_o one_o be_v set_v up_o to_o exclude_v the_o other_o violent_o and_o invalid_o eject_v from_o the_o administration_n of_o his_o office_n either_o at_o present_a or_o hereafter_o while_o in_o a_o capacity_n and_o readiness_n to_o perform_v his_o function_n thus_o pope_n martin_n who_o the_o dr._n have_v also_o instance_a pronounce_v it_o unlawful_a for_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o admit_v another_o bishop_n during_o his_o life_n and_o spalatensis_n allege_v that_o authority_n and_o rule_n for_o canonical_a and_o good_n yet_o when_o he_o be_v condemn_v at_o constantinople_n and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v take_v he_o for_o dead_a and_o so_o choose_v eugenius_n no_o wonder_n that_o pope_n martin_n receive_v news_n of_o this_o before_o his_o death_n pray_v for_o eugenius_n thus_o choose_v because_o he_o know_v the_o roman_n have_v not_o set_v he_o up_o as_o a_o anti-bishop_n and_o can_v not_o doubt_v have_v his_o return_n be_v possible_a but_o that_o his_o church_n and_o eugenius_n too_o will_v have_v joyful_o re-inthroned_n he_o but_o in_o case_n of_o competition_n as_o in_o the_o ignatian_a and_o photian_n war_n if_o the_o church_n or_o the_o competitor_n can_v be_v on_o both_o side_n excuse_v from_o schism_n upon_o every_o turn_n and_o invalid_a act_n of_o lay-power_n against_o which_o a_o good_a and_o valid_a title_n
be_v still_o assert_v while_o the_o people_n turn_v to_o both_o side_n with_o the_o secular_a wind_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o i_o believe_v no_o body_n can_v make_v it_o out_o and_o i_o think_v we_o must_v make_v the_o proceed_n of_o the_o church_n at_o the_o best_a to_o follow_v the_o pretend_a measure_n of_o right_n and_o rule_v or_o condemn_v they_o for_o wrong_v in_o every_o instance_n produce_v by_o the_o dr._n dyscher_fw-fr what_o course_n then_o will_v you_o take_v to_o excuse_v the_o church_n in_o admit_v and_o maintain_v anti-bishop_n against_o the_o invalid_o eject_v proprietor_n still_o claim_v eucher_n upon_o what_o particular_a motive_n they_o do_v act_n it_o be_v impossible_a for_o i_o to_o determine_v but_o i_o think_v i_o can_v set_v such_o rule_n according_a to_o which_o they_o may_v act_v valid_o not_o otherwise_o first_o then_o i_o admit_v that_o all_o the_o imperial_a ejection_n be_v not_o proper_a deposition_n but_o either_o antecedent_n or_o 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