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A36252 A reply to Mr. Baxter's pretended confutation of a book entituled, Separation of churches from episcopal government, &c. proved schismatical to which are added, three letters written to him in the year 1673, concerning the possibility of discipline under a diocesan-government ... / by Henry Dodwell ... Dodwell, Henry, 1641-1711. 1681 (1681) Wing D1817; ESTC R3354 153,974 372

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here_o have_v consider_v if_o that_o as_o well_o as_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o design_n of_o his_o church_n history_n have_v not_o be_v already_o undertake_v by_o a_o excellent_a and_o learned_a friend_n from_o who_o i_o hope_v the_o world_n will_v short_o have_v a_o account_n of_o it_o let._n 3._o sect_n 3._o part_n 3._o ch_n 9_o sect_n 20._o see_v the_o summary_n at_o the_o end_n of_o this_o reply_n ibid._n sect_n 29._o part_n 3._o ch_n 9_o sect_n 12._o ib._n sect_n 11._o ch._n 23._o ch._n 28._o sect_n 29_o etc._n etc._n ch._n 27._o part_n 3._o ch_n 9_o sect_n 19_o 20._o ch._n 20._o sect_n 21._o pref._n sect_n 11_o etc._n etc._n premonition_n term_n of_o conc._n p._n 11._o chap._n 5._o sect_n 23._o &_o church_n history_n part_n 3._o ch_n 9_o sect_n 4_o 13_o bede_n hist_o angl._n iii_o 3_o 5._o ib._n c._n 5._o ●_o 6._o 6._o simeon_n dunelm_n in_o collect._n seldeni_n seldeni_n simeon_n dunelm_n in_o collect._n seldeni_n seldeni_n malmesb._n de_fw-fr gest_n angl._n l._n 3._o the_o gest_n pontif._n angl._n l._n 3._o 3._o huntingd._n hist_o l._n 3._o bede_n eccl._n hist_n ji●_n 17_o l._n 3._o c._n 21._o ibid._n l._n 3._o c._n 22._o see_v bishop_n bramhall_n vind._n of_o the_o church_n of_o engl._n c._n 9_o bishop_n pearson_n vind._n ign._n l._n 1._o c._n 10._o l._n 3._o c._n 25._o c._n 26._o part_n 3._o c._n 9_o sect_n 7._o p._n 75_o separate_a prove_v scismat_n ch_n 20._o 15_o etc._n etc._n §_o xviii_o §_o xix_o §_o xx._n §_o xxi_o §_o xxii_o §_o xxiii_o §_o xxiv_o prologue_n ad_fw-la d._n stearn_n de_fw-fr obstin_n eph._n 4._o 11._o gal._n 1._o 1._o gal._n 11._o 6_o 7_o 8_o 9_o §_o xxv_o xxv_o 1_o cor._n 14._o 29_o 30_o 31._o 31._o v._o 13._o 13._o v._o 34._o 34._o 1_o cor._n 11._o 5_o 6_o 10_o 13_o 15._o 15._o 1_o cor._n 14._o 30_o 31._o 31._o v._o 26._o 26._o v._o 40._o 40._o v._o 29._o 29._o v._o 34_o 35._o §_o xxvi_o rom._n 12._o 6_o 7_o 8._o v_o 7._o act_n 14._o 23_o tit._n 1._o 5._o 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o 1_o tim._n 4_o 14._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d act_v 1._o 26._o §_o xxvii_o xxvii_o 1_o sam._n 10._o 9_o 9_o 1_o sam._n 16._o 14._o 14._o s._n john_n 20._o 20_o 21._o §_o xxviii_o §_o xxix_o ch._n hist_o profess_o and_o elsewhere_o §_o xxx_o 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o rom._n 12._o 6_o 7_o 8._o act_n 15._o 32._o §_o xxxi_o part_n 3._o c._n 9_o sect_n 21._o p._n 92_o part_n 3._o c._n 9_o sect_n 13._o p_o 85._o ib._n sect_n 33._o p._n 102_o 103_o ib._n sect_n 2._o p._n 74_o 100_o ib._n p._n 92_o 90._o ib._n sect_n 19_o p._n 90._o ib._n sect_n 2._o p._n 74._o ib._n p._n 81._o ib._n sect_n 2._o p._n 47._o sect_n 29._o p._n 97._o p._n 92._o ib._n sect_n 13._o p._n 85._o §_o xxxii_o pref._n sect_n 19_o 1._o 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a._n b._n a._n a_o b._n c._n b._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cornel_n ●d_a fab._n ant._n apud_fw-la euseb_n eccles_n hist_o 6._o 43._o 1._o 2._o contra_fw-la parm._n l._n 3._o petr._n de_fw-fr marca_n de_fw-fr concord_n sac._n &_o imp._n l._n 3._o c._n 6._o mon._n soci_fw-la §_o xvii_o §_o xviii_o §_o xix_o §_o xx._n §_o xxi_o §_o xxii_o §_o xxiii_o §_o xxiv_o §_o xxv_o §_o xxvi_o §_o xxvii_o §_o xxviii_o §_o xxix_o §_o xxx_o edit_fw-la vsser_n p._n 3._o ep._n ad_fw-la magn._n p._n 11._o p._n 17._o p._n 28._o p._n 30._o p._n 36._o §_o xxxi_o de_fw-fr baptism_n c._n 17_o ep._n 75._o apud_fw-la s._n cyprian_n p._n 182._o ed._n pamel_n p._n 184._o §_o xxxii_o in_o council_n carthag_n init_fw-la ep._n 4._o ad_fw-la cornel._n §_o xxxiii_o §_o xxxiv_o exhort_v cast_n §_o xxxv_o p._n 54._o edit_n junii_fw-la §_o xxxvi_o under_o domitian_n in_o the_o year_n 83_o according_a to_o eurychius_fw-la tertul._n praescr_n iren._n l._n 3._o adv_n hoer_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o it_o be_v to_o be_v read_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d epiphan_n haeres_fw-la 69._o n._n 1._o vide_fw-la etiam_fw-la haeres_fw-la 68_o n._n 4._o act._n council_n nicen._n l._n 2._o c._n 1._o §_o xxxvii_o apud_fw-la euseb_n l._n 4._o c._n 40_o 41._o l._n 7._o 10_o 11._o ●_o 8._o c._n 10_o 12_o 13._o euseb_n l._n 9_o c._n 8._o epiph._n haeres_fw-la 68_o n._n 3._o §_o xxxviii_o xxxviii_o the_o place_n intend_v be_v i_o believe_v ep._n ad_fw-la polycrap_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n p._n 139._o ed._n vsser_n §_o thirty-nine_o §_o xl._o can._n 6._o council_n sandicens_fw-la can._n 57_o conc._n laodic_n epist_n 1._o pseudo-clementin_a ad_fw-la jacob_n ep_n 1._o pseudo-anacleti_a &_o dist_n 80._o ep_n 3._o pseudo-anacleti_a n._n 2._o §_o xli_o the_o 15_o part_n in_o tax_n 14_o real_o p._n 83_o 84_o §_o xlii_o polit._n l._n 1._o c._n 2._o §_o xliii_o §_o xliv_o §_o xlv_o §_o xlvi_o §_o xlvii_o §_o xlviii_o sect._n 37._o &_o anno_fw-la 200._o sect._n 7._o §_o xlix_o xlix_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n s._n greg._n nysser_n vit._n s._n greg._n thaumaturgi_n edit_n inter_fw-la opera_fw-la thaumaturgi_n à_fw-la gerard._n voss_n p._n 255._o p._n 313._o ib._n pont_n in_o vit_fw-mi s._n cypr._n fin_n ep._n 60._o ed._n pamel_n §_o l._n apolog._n 11._o p._n 99_o pont._n vit_fw-fr cypr._n cypr._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d strabol_n 11._o greg._n p._n 131._o vide_fw-la l._n 18._o p._n 833._o l._n 18._o strabo_n ib._n ib._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n ib._n ib._n ptolem._n l._n 4._o greg._n c._n 3._o 3._o tertullian_n de_fw-fr pall._n pall._n apul._n florid._n florid._n see_v pamel_n in_o tertullian_n de_fw-fr pall._n &_o s._n cyprian_n epist_n 45_o 49._o conso_fw-la ad_fw-la helu._n c._n 10_o §_o li._n plin._n ep_n l._n 10._o ep_n 97._o tertul._n apol._n euseb_n chron._n num_fw-la 2223_o oros_n l._n 7._o §_o lii_o §_o liii_o apol._n 11._o p._n 97._o ib._n p._n 98._o §_o liv._o §_o lv._o optat._v milev_n l._n 11._o cont_n parm._n interp._n of_o the_o number_n 666_o c._n 19_o §_o lvi_o §_o lvii_o prudent_a perist_n in_o laurent_n can._n 14._o conc._n neocaesar_n pseudo-euarist_a ep_n 1._o perist_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la vid._n orig._n tract_n 24._o in_o matth._n §_o lviii_o §_o lix_n §_o lx._n §_o lxi_o §_o lxii_o §_o lxiii_o §_o lxiv_o soc._n l._n 1._o c._n 18._o ib._n l._n 11._o c._n 41._o sozom._n l._n 6._o c._n 37._o theod._n l._n 4._o c._n 37._o sozom._n l._n 6._o c._n 37._o socr._n hist_o eccl._n 4._o 33_o soz._n 4._o 37._o theod._n ubi_fw-la suprae_fw-la of_o this_o kind_n of_o dispensation_n even_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n see_v example_n of_o s._n greg._n naz._n s._n basil_n maximus_n in_o petr._n de_fw-fr marc._n l._n 3._o the_o concord_n sacr._n &_o imper._n c._n 13._o sect_n 10_o 11._o §_o lxv_o socr._n l._n 1._o c._n 19_o soz._n l._n 11._o c._n 24._o theod._n l._n 1._o c._n 23._o soz._n l._n 4._o c._n 38._o theod._n l._n 4._o c._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d §_o lxvi_o §_o lxvii_o §_o lxviii_o
the_o province_n and_o have_v actual_o make_v enquiry_n after_o the_o christian_n in_o their_o persecution_n of_o they_o i_o believe_v the_o great_a reason_n that_o incline_v you_o to_o believe_v the_o paucity_n of_o christian_n in_o those_o time_n be_v lii_o that_o in_o great_a and_o popular_a city_n they_o be_v able_a to_o communicate_v at_o one_o altar_n upon_o which_o account_n you_o conceive_v they_o to_o have_v be_v no_o more_o than_o what_o may_v assemble_v in_o our_o ordinary_a parochial_a congregation_n but_o you_o may_v as_o well_o have_v conclude_v whole_a city_n indeed_o nay_o whole_a nation_n to_o have_v no_o more_o people_n in_o they_o than_o our_o ordinary_a parochial_a assembly_n you_o know_v every_o clean_a male_n in_o jewry_n be_v to_o appear_v before_o god_n at_o the_o two_o solemn_a feast_n of_o easter_n and_o of_o tabernacle_n who_o number_n compute_v by_o cestius_n gallus_n amount_v to_o a_o number_n sure_a too_o great_a for_o a_o parish_n and_o the_o number_n in_o jerusalem_n when_o besiege_v by_o titus_n take_v there_o upon_o occasion_n of_o easter_n be_v a_o plain_a argument_n of_o the_o vastness_n of_o their_o religious_a assembly_n nor_o be_v it_o only_o proper_a to_o the_o jew_n thus_o to_o confederate_a and_o unite_v their_o commonwealth_n by_o their_o convention_n on_o account_n of_o religion_n to_o partake_v of_o the_o same_o altar_n but_o the_o same_o policy_n be_v observe_v among_o the_o heathen_n the_o assembly_n of_o whole_a city_n be_v so_o ordinary_a that_o it_o be_v but_o pedantic_a to_o give_v instance_n of_o they_o for_o those_o of_o nation_n you_o may_v observe_v the_o athenian_a panathenaick_n the_o olympic_a solemnity_n which_o be_v of_o all_o greece_n and_o then_o the_o panionia_n of_o the_o asiatic_a jones_n not_o now_o to_o mention_v those_o of_o the_o barbarian_n nor_o be_v only_a sacrifice_n common_a to_o these_o vast_a assembly_n from_o the_o same_o altar_n which_o be_v more_o easy_o intelligible_a but_o speech_n also_o be_v make_v to_o number_n much_o great_a than_o our_o parochial_a assembly_n which_o i_o believe_v you_o will_v think_v the_o great_a difficulty_n how_o the_o bishop_n who_o you_o say_v then_o be_v the_o principal_a if_o not_o the_o only_a preacher_n shall_v be_v hear_v in_o a_o multitude_n proportionable_a to_o a_o populous_a city_n yet_o be_v this_o so_o far_o from_o be_v incredible_a as_o that_o it_o be_v in_o those_o age_n frequent_o practise_v i_o will_v not_o instance_n in_o place_n of_o special_a contrivance_n as_o that_o at_o the_o roman_a rostra_fw-la the_o theatre_n and_o amphitheatre_n where_o many_o thousand_o sometime_o 100000_o or_o more_o have_v hear_v with_o convenience_n and_o yet_o it_o be_v very_o probable_a that_o these_o public_a place_n of_o religious_a assembly_n be_v contrive_v with_o conveniency_n for_o that_o purpose_n nay_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o jew_n have_v their_o suggesta_n and_o cathedrae_fw-la raise_v on_o high_a for_o that_o end_n nor_o shall_v i_o mention_v the_o oration_n of_o general_n to_o their_o army_n who_o have_v the_o like_a advantage_n it_o be_v very_o clear_a that_o upon_o occasion_n not_o so_o solemn_a nor_o prepare_v great_a rout_n of_o tumultuous_a people_n want_v head_n to_o who_o a_o particular_a address_n may_v have_v be_v confine_v have_v yet_o be_v speak_v to_o i_o will_v not_o again_o instance_n in_o the_o speech_n of_o petronius_n and_o king_n agrippa_n to_o the_o generality_n of_o the_o jewish_a nation_n of_o which_o we_o be_v discourse_v scripture_n example_n though_o pure_o historical_a i_o find_v most_o easy_o admit_v by_o you_o and_o therefore_o i_o be_o the_o rather_o willing_a to_o insist_v on_o they_o rehoboam_n speak_v to_o all_o israel_n 1_o king_n 12._o 1_o 13_o 16_o 20._o so_o jehoiada_n make_v a_o covenant_n with_o all_o the_o people_n of_o the_o land_n 2_o king_n 11._o 17_o 18_o 20._o our_o saviour_n preach_v his_o sermon_n on_o the_o mount_n to_o great_a multitude_n from_o several_a place_n s._n matth._n 4._o 25._o v_o 1._o and_o several_a other_o place_n to_o 4000_o at_o one_o time_n and_o 5000_o at_o another_o though_o in_o wilderness_n by_o which_o we_o may_v guess_v how_o much_o great_a his_o auditory_n be_v in_o populous_a city_n the_o town_n clerk_n of_o the_o ephesian_n to_o the_o whole_a city_n act_v 19_o 29_o 35._o s._n paul_n to_o all_o the_o city_n of_o jerusalem_n act_v 21._o 30_o 36_o 39_o 40._o and_o by_o the_o multitude_n convert_v by_o single_a sermon_n of_o the_o apostle_n you_o may_v easy_o conjecture_v the_o vastness_n of_o their_o auditory_n which_o will_v be_v the_o rather_o credible_a when_o it_o be_v consider_v that_o the_o principal_n preach_v of_o the_o first_o propagator_n of_o christianity_n be_v general_o in_o place_n of_o great_a frequent_a such_o as_o the_o temple_n or_o synagogue_n or_o street_n or_o or_o school_n or_o market-place_n thus_o you_o see_v that_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o the_o number_n of_o christian_n must_v have_v be_v few_o if_o they_o assemble_v in_o one_o place_n for_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n and_o if_o the_o bishop_n alone_o have_v preach_v but_o neither_o supposition_n be_v so_o very_o certain_a liii_o at_o least_o not_o so_o general_a as_o you_o seem_v to_o believe_v it_o for_o preach_v we_o see_v that_o while_n the_o extraordinary_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o prophecy_n last_v under_o which_o preach_v be_v comprehend_v as_o well_o as_o prayer_n which_o by_o the_o way_n be_v observable_a against_o they_o who_o allow_v study_v sermon_n and_o yet_o complain_v of_o the_o spirit_n be_v be_v quench_v if_o their_o prayer_n be_v other_o than_o extemporary_a several_a prophet_n meet_v and_o officiate_v in_o their_o synax_n 1_o cor._n 14._o 29_o 30_o 31._o so_o far_o be_v it_o then_o from_o be_v confine_v to_o any_o person_n bishop_n or_o other_o to_o preach_v to_o the_o people_n and_o even_o afterward_o we_o find_v preach_v not_o always_o perform_v by_o the_o bishop_n though_o i_o be_o apt_a indeed_o to_o think_v it_o be_v ordinary_o the_o catechist_n be_v usual_o presbyter_n and_o origen_n though_o a_o presbyter_n yet_o preach_v before_o bishop_n but_o for_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n wherein_o they_o can_v not_o meet_v so_o numerous_o in_o one_o assembly_n yet_o other_o provision_n may_v have_v be_v make_v agreeable_o enough_o to_o the_o principle_n of_o those_o age_n for_o supply_v the_o necessity_n of_o much_o great_a than_o parochial_a multitude_n such_o be_v that_o of_o reserve_v the_o species_n which_o i_o believe_v be_v a_o shift_n find_v out_o in_o time_n of_o persecution_n when_o every_o particular_a person_n can_v not_o get_v any_o opportunity_n of_o frequent_v the_o synax_n as_o often_o as_o he_o be_v desirous_a to_o communicate_v which_o be_v then_o daily_o it_o be_v the_o first_o meat_n they_o taste_v this_o reservation_n be_v clear_a from_o s._n cyprian_n de_fw-fr lap_n the_o author_n de_fw-fr spectaculis_fw-la among_o his_o work_n tert._n l._n 11._o and_o ux._n diony_n alex._n ep_n ad_fw-la fab._n antioch_n in_o euseb_n s._n iren._n to_o pope_n victor_n now_o by_o this_o mean_n very_o great_a multitude_n may_v frequent_o communicate_v though_o their_o synax_n be_v rare_o and_o thin_o celebrate_v that_o they_o may_v not_o give_v their_o governor_n any_o just_a offence_n by_o their_o numerousness_n for_o by_o pliny_n epistle_n to_o trajan_n it_o appear_v that_o they_o do_v upon_o this_o account_n utter_o forbear_v their_o feast_n of_o charity_n upon_o his_o put_n of_o the_o law_n de_fw-fr hetaeriis_fw-la in_o force_n and_o in_o all_o probability_n yield_v as_o far_o as_o lawful_o they_o conceive_v they_o may_v in_o the_o eucharist_n itself_o a_o second_o shift_n be_v that_o of_o send_v the_o sacrament_n by_o the_o deacon_n to_o those_o that_o be_v absent_a so_o s._n justin_n martyr_n express_o 97._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o again_o 98._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o who_o know_v whether_o the_o break_n of_o bread_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o from_o house_n to_o house_n as_o we_o read_v it_o act_v 11._o 46._o if_o it_o be_v mean_v of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o not_o rather_o of_o their_o feast_n of_o love_n may_v not_o allude_v to_o this_o custom_n i_o shall_v not_o now_o dispute_v it_o but_o only_o observe_v that_o this_o practice_n though_o not_o ground_v on_o this_o text_n yet_o certain_o use_v in_o those_o time_n may_v from_o the_o same_o altar_n have_v communicate_v much_o great_a multitude_n than_o be_v contain_v in_o our_o ordinary_a parish_n but_o there_o be_v also_o a_o three_o expedient_a for_o these_o numerous_a communion_n that_o though_o indeed_o the_o roman_a altar_n where_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n be_v ordinary_o and_o solemn_o administer_v be_v only_o one_o even_o in_o those_o populous_a city_n and_o that_o in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o bishop_n yet_o